Current Events > Kyle Rittenhouse celebrates 20th bday and thanks the 2nd amendment

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Didnt he illegally acquire a firearm as a minor and illegally cross state lines with said firearm or was this all misinformation?

and I'm in an automobile

(get it, plane, train then automobile ..........)

ViewtifulGrave posted...

Didnt he illegally acquire a firearm as a minor and illegally cross state lines with said firearm or was this all misinformation?

It was all misinformation.

Zikten posted...

So he wasn't a conservative at a liberal protest? Cause that is all I claimed.

When theres Assault, theft and vandalism happening on mass at these so called protest..... that's called a riot.

The same riots that have been happening all year prior and had citizens and private business owners on edge. Enough so that some even had armed guards.

darkprince45 posted...

I just dont feel Ike playing the 8 AMP alt game tonight is all

Translation: "I totally agree with him because he's [a] white [supremacist] but if I say so, I'll get Suspended and will need to hop on an alt, so I'll just [not so] subtly imply that I support him. Man I'm slick!"

Cops gonna oink.

TheValiant posted...

Translation: "I totally agree with him because he's [a] white [supremacist] but if I say so, I'll get Suspended and will need to hop on an alt, so I'll just [not so] subtly imply that I support him. Man I'm slick!"

Cops gonna oink.

Or.....or he doesn't want to waste time playing silly Gamefaqs games with new alt accounts?

Rittenhouse is a MURDERER!!!!

Prismsblade posted...

That's only what happened in your head. And I dont believe you haven't been told otherwise countless times now the details so I won't bother. I know you don't care.

Sometimes the opposition wins, that's life. Take the L and move on.

You might be on to something. After all, you're a grandmaster at taking Ls so if you know when to take one, it might be worth listening to. Probly not though.

Prismsblade posted...

When theres Assault, theft and vandalism happening on mass at these so called protest..... that's called a riot.

The same riots that have been happening all year prior and had citizens and private business owners on edge. Enough so that some even had armed guards.

So then why did Kyle go there? Nobody forced him to come. He was supposed to stay home.he had no connection to the people on that street. He was on the opposing side of politics and nobody wanted him there. He walked into an angry situation while not hiding he opposed the angry people

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Or, this particular incident received a crazy amount of press and many people considered him a monster even before all the facts came out. So perhaps his mentality is "fuck it -- if people are going to vilify me no matter what, then I might as well capitalize from it all". At the end of the day, as long as he can say that he only shot people in self-defense, then he's technically done nothing wrong.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

He wasnt walking around with a loaded assault rifle because he didnt want to kill someone

The assumption here is that the only reason people carry guns around is because they want to kill someone, which is obviously untrue. The important question is whether or not he attacked first. If people were foolish enough to attack someone who was wielding a bigass gun, then that's on them. It should be common sense not to physically assault someone who is armed.

superman_2000 posted...

Or, this particular incident received a crazy amount of press and many people considered him a monster even before all the facts came out. So perhaps his mentality is "fuck it -- if people are going to vilify me no matter what, then I might as well capitalize from it all". At the end of the day, as long as he can say that he only shot people in self-defense, then he's technically done nothing wrong.

I think it's a poor quality of character to take advantage of peoples' ill feelings towards you and capitalize on it, basically becoming the monster they believe you to be.

Also "technically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that last sentence.

Zikten posted...

So then why did Kyle go there? Nobody forced him to come. He was supposed to stay home.he had no connection to the people on that street. He was on the opposing side of politics and nobody wanted him there. He walked into an angry situation while not hiding he opposed the angry people

I know you dont care so I wont bother. He gave his reasoning to the judge and jury and it was satisfactory to them.

If it wasn't for you that's fine. But it's over now and he's won. Best you can hope for is him screwing up somehow later in life.

Prismsblade posted...

Best you can hope for is him screwing up somehow later in life.

I don't want someone else to die for him to get his comeuppance.

GranolaPanic posted...

Why does everyone ignore him lying to police about his medical credentials? Thats an important detail everyone overlooks.

They overlook it because Kyle Rittenhouse being intentionally deceptive makes him look guilty of the crimes everyone knows he did.

CyricZ posted...

I think it's a poor quality of character to take advantage of peoples' ill feelings towards you and capitalize on it, basically becoming the monster they believe you to be.

Taking advantage of people's unjustified feelings toward you isn't "becoming the monster they believe you to be". This was a 17-year-old young man whom many people were condemning to a life in prison before all the facts even came out. The moral onus should be on the people to assess these things more objectively. Kylie shot his victims in self-defense, and people still called him a monster. His identity and reputation became one with the incident. I don't blame him for capitalizing, because the people who hate him were never going to stop hating him no matter what, and there's no telling how the whole thing (from the incident itself to the media coverage to the court case to the backlash to the groups that show him acceptance) has impacted his very young mind.

Also "technically" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that last sentence.

Kylie did several things I don't agree with, but at the end of the day, the only reason people got shot is because they physically assaulted him -- not the other way around. I think this goes without saying, but it is unwise to attack someone who is wielding a gun.

GranolaPanic posted...

People conceal carry as a means to protect themselves. Kyle Rittenhouse brought an AR15 with him that day. Thats not a weapon used for self defense and you certainly cant conceal it.

And yet we know that he was attacked first. If anything, the fact that the gun was on brazen display should have been all the more reason for people to leave him alone. Yeah, call him a jackass for showing up the way he did, but don't attack the guy -- he has a gun!

He's actually correct.

I think this goes without saying, but it is unwise to attack someone who is wielding a gun.

Yep, and Gaige Grosskreutz getting his arm blown off proves its unwise to carry a gun and not use it. Gaiges mistake was not firing, unlike Rittenhouse who didnt hesitate.

GranolaPanic posted...

Do you think Ashli Babbitt deserved what happened to her, Superman 2000?

I don't know who that is. Care to explain?

superman_2000 posted...

Taking advantage of people's unjustified feelings toward you isn't "becoming the monster they believe you to be".

No it actually is, because now he's doing it on purpose and now their feelings are justified.

has impacted his very young mind.

If he's such an impressionable child, then why did we allow him to carry a firearm.

superman_2000 posted...

I don't know who that is. Care to explain?

She was the woman who was shot by police during the January 6th insurrection.

GranolaPanic posted...

Do you think Ashli Babbitt deserved what happened to her, Superman 2000?

Ive said before that Ive never been comfortable with the fact that Babbitt was shot from the side. At least Rittenhouse was shooting dead on. That Secret Service agent shooting from the corner was pretty questionable in my view. I know most people dont agree with that.

CyricZ posted...

No it actually is, because now he's doing it on purpose and now their feelings are justified.

It is completely irresponsible to equate taking advantage of stubborn stupidity with actually doing something horrible. With all due respect, that's crazy.

If he's such an impressionable child, then why did we allow him to carry a firearm.

Whether we allow him to carry a firearm or not doesn't change that he was only 17 years old (and clearly politically influenced) when all of this happened.

GranolaPanic posted...

She was the woman who was shot and killed by a Capitol police officer during the January 6th insurrection. She was trying to climb through a broken window into the occupied chamber when she was told to stop. She didnt and was shot in the neck and died.

Since then Republicans made her into a martyr the same way they did for Rittenhouse.

It is unfortunate that she died, but the shooting was justified because she was told to stop and wouldn't. That's just stupidity.

The thing about Babbit is that maybe the shooting would be more questionable if it had just been her by herself trying to get in

But it wasn't. There was a huge rioting crowd behind her. They were telling the entire riot to stay back. She led the charge so she got shot. Reports says that as soon as she was shot, everyone back off because it just became real

That crowd was made up of a bunch of entitled people who never actually believed their actions would carry real consequences. In shooting Babbitt, the guards finally got the crowd to stop advancing

the criteria to become a Right wing hero is... disturbing.

Zikten posted...

Because you are ignoring the other people killed. The sex offender was not the only one who died. You seem to handwave away the other deaths

Yes because Anthony Huber, the only other person dead, was a patron saint of Kenosha. Serial wife beater. The guy who lost his bicep was a lying piece of shit too. He proved that on the stand.

Nobody ever mentions that guy not legally carrying either, but I hear plenty of people still saying he was justified in trying to chase down and kill Rittenhouse (funny how that works).

TheValiant posted...

You might be on to something. After all, you're a grandmaster at taking Ls so if you know when to take one, it might be worth listening to. Probly not though.

*suspended*

and no I dont support rittenhouse and Im not a white supremacist

CyricZ posted...

I think it's a poor quality of character to take advantage of peoples' ill feelings towards you and capitalize on it.

I agree, though this wouldnt be happening to nearly the degree it is if it werent for the massive amount of misinformation being generated about him even to this day, after the trail after the witness testimony after the video evidence.

MetroidGamer666 posted...

I agree, though this wouldnt be happening to nearly the degree it is if it werent for the massive amount of misinformation being generated about him even to this day, after the trail after the witness testimony after the video evidence.

Exactly. Why is all the onus on Kylie to behave flawlessly, especially at such a young age? Why isn't the public being held to AT LEAST the same standard when it comes to their lack of due diligence?

Zikten posted...

The thing about Babbit is that maybe the shooting would be more questionable if it had just been her by herself trying to get in

But it wasn't. There was a huge rioting crowd behind her. They were telling the entire riot to stay back. She led the charge so she got shot. Reports says that as soon as she was shot, everyone back off because it just became real

That crowd was made up of a bunch of entitled people who never actually believed their actions would carry real consequences. In shooting Babbitt, the guards finally got the crowd to stop advancing

Im going to dispute this. Was this crowd of rioters in the wrong? Yes, clearly. But the truth is, the crowd in that room wasnt really advancing or particularly violent. Ashley clearly was. But the others were standing around with their phones out like they were on a tour. You can tell they werent considered much of a threat because the cops are walking in between them and the door and freely walking up and down the stairs to the side. In fact, Ashley only pushes in when the cops leave the door and walk down the stairs. If one of those cops had just walked over and pulled her down or done anything besides walk away, then no one would have died.

You cant fall into the well she had it coming fallacy. Thats not how the law works and its not how we legally determine if something is justified. Ive said it before, the police utterly failed in that room and somebody died because of it.

superman_2000 posted...

Exactly. Why is all the onus on Kyle to behave flawlessly, especially at such a young age? Why isn't the public being held to AT LEAST the same standard when it comes to their lack of due diligence?

He probably doesnt deserve all the blame. But had he just started home, chances are some people probably wouldnt have died or been injured Or not had an AR-15 Or a lot of things Who knows, though. Either way, I still hes kind of a piece of shit

I can't speak on each single officer on that day. But some of the cops from that riot have said they chose to be passive because they were convinced the crowd was going to kill them if they tried to resist

That's why we see footage of cops sometimes looking like they are just letting people in. And maybe some of the rioters didn't understand how scared the cops were and legit believed the cops were on their side

Hence all the quotes later from rioters who said things like "those cops waved us on in with smiles"

superman_2000 posted...

It is completely irresponsible to equate taking advantage of stubborn stupidity with actually doing something horrible. With all due respect, that's crazy.

It's also irresponsible to suggest that this right-wing troll public persona is a product of those who condemned him.

Whether we allow him to carry a firearm or not doesn't change that he was only 17 years old (and clearly politically influenced) when all of this happened.

It would have changed everything.

Either he would have been denied a firearm and the incident would never have happened, or he (or the one who provided it) would have been found culpable for carrying a firearm at his age.

To put it simply, you cannot have your cake and eat it too on both "justified firearm carrying Kyle Rittenhouse" and "just a child".

THAT'S irresponsibility.

FAQ-Checker posted...

Ashley clearly was

Also the only person who was shot.

So what's the big deal?

Are you saying that police should have arrested her before the window was broken?

MetroidGamer666 posted...

I agree, though this wouldnt be happening to nearly the degree it is if it werent for the massive amount of misinformation being generated about him even to this day, after the trail after the witness testimony after the video evidence.

So you're saying it's his condemners that bear responsibility for his public persona?

Do those who propped him up as a vigilante hero have any of that responsibility?

can't speak on each single officer on that day. But some of the cops from that riot have said they chose to be passive because they were convinced the crowd was going to kill them if they tried to resist

No doubt. But Im only speaking about that one room and those 5 specific officers. They walk away like they were called away from the door. Then they casually walk down the stairs. Thats when shit went sideways. Whoever called them away fucked up.

I really feel that falling back on "he's just a gun-wielding child" is not all that clean of a win.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Also the only person who was shot.

So what's the big deal?

Are you saying that police should have arrested her before the window was broken?

Im saying the police never should have left the door. And even after that fuck up, any one of those officers could have easily pulled her down. The window break wasnt an instantaneous act. There was an opportunity to pull her down.

-two things can be correct at the same time.

-more than two things can also be correct at the same time.

-critical thinking and honesty aren't enemies.

CyricZ posted...

It's also irresponsible to suggest that this right-wing troll public persona is a product of those who condemned him.

How is he a troll? And again, he was 17 years old when he had to use deadly force to defend himself against multiple attackers who might have severely injured or killed him if given the chance. I won't presume to know what kind of fucked-up effect that has on the mind of a high school-aged person who is now only 20, but I'm sure it isn't helped by being demonized all over the media.

It would have changed everything.

Either he would have been denied a firearm and the incident would never have happened, or he (or the one who provided it) would have been found culpable for carrying a firearm at his age.

To put it simply, you cannot have your cake and eat it too on both "justified firearm carrying Kyle Rittenhouse" and "just a child".

Nothing you said here contradicts anything I said.

My point has been (and still is) that Kyle was justified to use the gun against physically confrontational strangers whose intentions could not be known. It would have been best if Kyle had not known up at all, or at least had shown up without a gun (I don't know why a 17-year-old has a gun in the first place), but the fact remains that none of that would have even mattered if people hadn't attacked him first.