Current Events > Fan created Superman open world game concept demo

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https://youtu.be/G7iemBOGu4Y

This is what a superman game made by the people behind the arkham series, would maybe look like

I can only get so erect. Ive wanted something like this for longer than I can remember.

Rocksteady wanted to make a Superman game. WB said no.

The trauma of Superman 64 is a long one.

Flying around and not really doing anything seems like it would be better off as a Dr. Manhattan game.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Rocksteady wanted to make a Superman game. WB said no.

The trauma of Superman 64 is a long one.

It was WBs fault that Superman 64 was bad.

I remember spending long stretches of Spider Man 2 on Gamecube just swinging around doing nothing because it was so fun.

If this was an actual game, flying around would be the same for me.

Everyone fucks up Superman games, except Lego.

We cant use Nintendo 64 as an example for why a Supes game wouldnt work today. The consoles couldnt be more different.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Flying around and not really doing anything seems like it would be better off as a Dr. Manhattan game.

They would add in enemies to fight in the real game. Imagine punching Doomsday in Metropolis, and he is knocked into space and crashes on the moon, then you fly to the moon and punch him again before he gets up

Zikten posted...

They would add in enemies to fight in the real game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=desb0W6u80Y

One argument against a Superman game that makes sort of sense is the idea of progression. Every game has you starting at low-level and getting stronger with more abilities, weapons, and powers.

How do you portray that in a game about someone who is already the strongest being on Earth?

I think outside high threat enemies superman should be infact invincible and make the challenge keeping collateral damage to a minimum. Maybe have some "elite" regular enemies that have kryptonite.

Ivynn posted...

How do you portray that in a game about someone who is already the strongest being on Earth?

'member Hulk Ultimate Destruction?

Questionmarktarius posted...

'member Hulk Ultimate Destruction?

Never played that. >_> How did they do it?

Ivynn posted...

How did they do it?

basically a Lego game without the "Lego" part.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

I think outside high threat enemies superman should be infact invincible and make the challenge keeping collateral damage to a minimum. Maybe have some "elite" regular enemies that have kryptonite.

I agree. So many people want to depower Superman out of fear that a game wouldn't be fun if he's Superman-level, but at that point, are you even playing as Superman, or some husk of a man in Superman clothing?

If I'm Superman, I want to feel like Superman, traditional game design be damned. A true creative will be able to find a way to make it work.

PiOverlord posted...

I agree. So many people want to depower Superman out of fear that a game wouldn't be fun if he's Superman-level, but at that point, are you even playing as Superman, or some husk of a man in Superman clothing?

If I'm Superman, I want to feel like Superman, traditional game design be damned. A true creative will be able to find a way to make it work.

Either one of two ways to go about it. The city has a life bar or against regular enemies you can't really lose but you can do poorly and it's reflected in the public perception of superman. Like from idolizing him to hating him maybe even fearing him if you are so bad with collateral damage it almost seems either intentional or just not caring at all

Can also have challenges like some crime is going down and you have to find it before its over using various abilities like super hearing or xray vision.

PiOverlord posted...

If I'm Superman, I want to feel like Superman, traditional game design be damned. A true creative will be able to find a way to make it work.

again, don't sleep on the Lego games.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

So many people want to depower Superman

Well Superman depowers Superman so he doesn't accidently punchmurder everyone.

PiOverlord posted...

I agree. So many people want to depower Superman out of fear that a game wouldn't be fun if he's Superman-level, but at that point, are you even playing as Superman, or some husk of a man in Superman clothing?

If I'm Superman, I want to feel like Superman, traditional game design be damned. A true creative will be able to find a way to make it work.

well yeah. I don't want a depowered Superman (that's a lazy solution) and the game should make you feel like Superman in the same way the Batman and Spider-man games made you feel like them. But I'm not game designer so I can't really think of a solution so I understand the challenge.

I've heard the "give the city a life bar" solution before but I dunno. Maybe have parts of the game, you play as Clark Kent as an investigative journalist, so the Superman parts can be full Superman and feel amazing? Some probably wouldn't like that tho.

Ivynn posted...

Maybe have parts of the game, you play as Clark Kent as an investigative journalist, so the Superman parts can be full Superman and feel amazing? Some probably wouldn't like that tho.

Some sort of "stealth" game where Clark has to hide long enough to take his pants off?

Ivynn posted...

well yeah. I don't want a depowered Superman (that's a lazy solution) and the game should make you feel like Superman in the same way the Batman and Spider-man games made you feel like them. But I'm not game designer so I can't really think of a solution so I understand the challenge.

I've heard the "give the city a life bar" solution before but I dunno. Maybe have parts of the game, you play as Clark Kent as an investigative journalist, so the Superman parts can be full Superman and feel amazing? Some probably wouldn't like that tho.

I just some other suggestions too where having to use his various powers to stop things in time be the challenge in some missions. Let combat be just for the fun of it outside taking down known villains of superman. Maybe a mission or two where kryptonite is used so it becomes a game of superman vs a mob. He's stronger but they got numbers.

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Also the regular Joe's could be a obstacle to whatever superman is trying to stop but they must be dealt with first.

Also to say I've played a few games where the main character is unkillable. Warioland 2 and 3 and Fable 3 technically. Hero in Fable 3 auto revives if you lose all your health and you just gain a scar as a symbol of having your ass beat

Ivynn posted...

One argument against a Superman game that makes sort of sense is the idea of progression. Every game has you starting at low-level and getting stronger with more abilities, weapons, and powers.

How do you portray that in a game about someone who is already the strongest being on Earth?

You could just come up with some plot device that makes generic enemies more powerful than they would be otherwise. And when you implement Superman's actual iconic enemies there should be no issue because most of them are either as powerful as Superman already or present some other threat that make them challenging.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

You could just come up with some plot device that makes generic enemies more powerful than they would be otherwise. And when you implement Superman's actual iconic enemies there should be no issue because most of them are either as powerful as Superman already or present some other threat that make them challenging.

Also superman has been known to pull powers out his ass. So have a few of his non standard powers in the game as something to unlock.

You could also have strength and speed gains as he has gone above his limits before.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Also superman has been known to pull powers out his ass.

something something, transparent lead poncho.

Superman Returns game was better than garbage and had the invincible Superman. The city had a lifebar instead

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Also superman has been known to pull powers out his ass. So have a few of his non standard powers in the game as something to unlock.

You could also have strength and speed gains as he has gone above his limits before.

Yup. A frequent justification for Superman not stomping everything into the ground in various media is that he's usually holding back. As the threat in game grows, so should his strength and speed (or in this case his willingness to use more of it). Same could be said of random interesting powers. Perhaps over the course of the game as Metropolis is getting wrecked more and more Superman would be willing to bust out more dangerous abilities.

Can't most things on Apokolips hurt him? Just have the game take place there. Although personally I don't see the issue of depowering him, it's not like you had all the gadgets in Arkham or abilities in Spider-Man immediately.

Besides, the only power you really need to take away from him is invulnerability.

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or... don't.

Questionmarktarius posted...

or... don't.

Yeah, as stated, what's even the point of a Superman game if you're just going to weaken him to the point of not being Superman.

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Yeah but I don't necessarily want to be fighting a dozen regular old criminals at once like Batman does in the Arkham games. They can do some more interesting things with Superman.

And if they did have you fight standard human enemies I think I'd rather see them get buffed up than Superman get nerfed. Give them Kryptonite laced gauntlets or something.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

And if they did have you fight standard human enemies I think I'd rather see them get buffed up than Superman get nerfed. Give them Kryptonite laced gauntlets or something.

Do that in the second act or something. Let Superman be Superman.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Yup. A frequent justification for Superman not stomping everything into the ground in various media is that he's usually holding back. As the threat in game grows, so should his strength and speed (or in this case his willingness to use more of it). Same could be said of random interesting powers. Perhaps over the course of the game as Metropolis is getting wrecked more and more Superman would be willing to bust out more dangerous abilities.

I meant he has literally gotten physically stronger in comics. His power level is dependent on how much sunlight he's absorbed. Why kingdom come superman is far stronger

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Gold.

Also batman used a red solar grenade at another point.

Is it just me or does that character model have a massive ass?

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Or, use the DK94 model, where Supes can do everything in the tutorial parts, but none of those abilities are relevant outside of speedrunning.

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Yeah gold has the ability to permanently depower him with enough exposure. Why batman only hit him once or twice before going hand to hand.

If you're going to make a Superman game I think you need to add a little more direction for players to explore. You can't just aimlessly fly around the city. There could be some sort of markers guiding players. Maybe there could be something like paths of floating rings directing you around Metropolis? That could be a fun way to both challenge players and showcase Superman's powers.

Superman Returns is a great game. Flying was fun and the city having a life bar was genius.

I already played Superman 64