Current Events > Some houston activists want the "vigilante shooter" who killed that

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A_Good_Boy posted...

Yup. He shoots him in the back 4 times as the robber is walking past him. The robber runs, stumbles, and falls at the door. Then the ggwg gets up and puts 4 more into the dude as he's walking over to his body. Then he pauses, looks over his body, reaches down and tosses the robbers gun away, then puts one more into the back of his head for good measure.

Yeah he definitely needs to go to prison then. Wtf

Crazyman93 posted...

So is tear gas and that still gets used.

Do you think I'm a huge proponent of tear gas either?

I don't care!

A_Good_Boy posted...

Yup. He shoots him in the back 4 times as the robber is walking past him. The robber runs, stumbles, and falls at the door. Then the ggwg gets up and puts 4 more into the dude as he's walking over to his body. Then he pauses, looks over his body, reaches down and tosses the robbers gun away, then puts one more into the back of his head for good measure.

is this true? all the videos i've seen are highly edited, and don't show that

DrizztLink posted...

Do you think I'm a huge proponent of tear gas either?

Does it matter? The Geneva Conventions only govern warfare and they don't even do a great job of it. They're just some papers for people to say they're killing and maiming people who have no stake in whatever is being fought over in a "civilized" manner.

I feel for the family of the suspect, but dude seems like he's been living a lifestyle that's been begging for this to happen for a long time. Hard to have sympathy for someone that has been and would have continued to be a menace to society.

i saw the un edited footage 4 shots to the back he goes down thats it take the gun away call the cops the dude walks up to the guy then shoots him 3 times in the head after thats an execution tbh

A_Good_Boy posted...

Yup. He shoots him in the back 4 times as the robber is walking past him. The robber runs, stumbles, and falls at the door. Then the ggwg gets up and puts 4 more into the dude as he's walking over to his body. Then he pauses, looks over his body, reaches down and tosses the robbers gun away, then puts one more into the back of his head for good measure.

what in the fuck

Crime doesn't pay.

GranTurismo posted...

is this true? all the videos i've seen are highly edited, and don't show that

I finally found an unedit version of the video just a few minutes ago on Twitter.

NoxObscuras posted...

https://abc13.com/12681554/

Basically, the robber came into the restaurant and started robbing the customers at gunpoint. As he was done robbing everyone and about to flee, a customer got up and shot and killed him.

From what I've seen, some people are saying the customer should be charged with murder, because the robber was already leaving and that the gun the robber had, was a fake gun.

Ah, seems fair to me. Self defense covers recovery of property, regardless of what local laws say.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Yup. He shoots him in the back 4 times as the robber is walking past him. The robber runs, stumbles, and falls at the door. Then the ggwg gets up and puts 4 more into the dude as he's walking over to his body. Then he pauses, looks over his body, reaches down and tosses the robbers gun away, then puts one more into the back of his head for good measure.

Yeah if this is true then he's guilty.

When you think youre Chaotic Good, but you're really just Lawful Evil.

Pretty sure I'd have nothing but gratitude if I were one of the would-be victims in the restaurant. Ride on, Punisher.

He very clearly shot him in the back of the head at the end of the video

The first shots were justified, him ending it the way he did should get him put away imo

if he was innocent, then why he walked away after killing the robber?

also since he is a killer, someone else is allowed to shoot him too, right?

First 4 shots is justified.

Next 4 shots & the final kill shot, not justified.

St0rmFury posted...

First 4 shots is justified.

Next 4 shots & the final kill shot, not justified.

Basically this also I'm from Houston and they stopped talking about this by the looks of it.

Ricemills posted...

if he was innocent, then why he walked away after killing the robber?

also since he is a killer, someone else is allowed to shoot him too, right?

the rest of you dudes agree with this?

Yeah I think he murdered that guy and should be charged appropriately. That wasn't self-defense, it was a dude looking for an excuse to kill someone.

The penalty for robbery, even armed robbery, isn't capital punishment, and we shouldn't be encouraging vigilante justice period. The only people less qualified to handle these situations than our woeful law enforcement are random people with guns.

KTG2 posted...

Yeah I think he murdered that guy and should be charged appropriately. That wasn't self-defense, it was a dude looking for an excuse to kill someone.

The penalty for robbery, even armed robbery, isn't capital punishment, and we shouldn't be encouraging vigilante justice period. The only people less qualified to handle these situations than our woeful law enforcement are random people with guns.

funny that you should bring that up. Hypothetically if the situation had been the same, except it had been a cop that shot him from behind....etc....do you think they would even be thinking of prosecuting?

David1988 posted...

just because he was leaving doesnt mean he wasnt a threat to the public at large being a criminal who just committed a crime and walking around with a gun

This rob one place doesnt mean they wouldnt try to rob other places.

GranTurismo posted...

...robbery suspect in that houston area mexican restaurant , to be charged. That video got huge press. Any of you agree with some of these houston activists?

yes. Shooter was a murderer

Should absolutely be charged, there was no reason to take it to the level he did. He fucking murdered a guy

JumpstyIe posted...

is there a source for the "he executed him with a headshot" claim?

Understandable you wouldn't know most sources that post the video cut it off before he even shoots the guy but the raw footage displays this

the raw footage makes the guy guilty he executed the man

Yes, he should be arrested and charged.

The video I saw showed what looked like one shot to the back of the head and homes dropped dead.

Based off of that I'd have said he doesn't deserve to be charged

But he definitely went way beyond what any reasonable self defense claim could justify

the video you saw isnt the real whole video he shot the dude 3 or 4 times in the head after he was down

The last 3 shots were overkill and he should be charged with something at least.

That situation was an easy "Fair, next."

If you like being alive, don't rob people at gunpoint.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

the video you saw isnt the real whole video he shot the dude 3 or 4 times in the head after he was down

It showed the robber, then it showed the guy pull his weapon and shoot him.

I didn't see multiple shots in the back, but also not the best quality video either

yeah tons of hd quality shit out there

wackyteen posted...

It showed the robber, then it showed the guy pull his weapon and shoot him.

I didn't see multiple shots in the back, but also not the best quality video either

Yeah the full video shows him shooting the guy about 8 or 9 times, mostly in the back, with the last one being in the back of the head while he's already lying on the floor

It's pretty fucked up

Gwynevere posted...

Yeah the full video shows him shooting the guy about 8 or 9 times, mostly in the back, with the last one being in the back of the head while he's already lying on the floor

It's pretty fucked up

It doesn't excuse it but adrenaline is a hell of a drug. Mix it with fear and you'll do things you logically know you shouldn't.

But for those itt saying "he was no longer a threat" when the robber turned to leave, he was still perceived to be armed. A weapon on display in hand is an active weapon. Even if he didn't shoot it at anybody, a ricocheted round can still kill.

So the vigilante was justified, leastways by Texas law. He went overkill though.

I'd much rather pay a thief whatever cash I had on me and let the police deal with it than have some rando wannabe hero starting a gun fight where my family is.

If you're stupid enough to rob someone in the first place, fake gun or not, you deserve losing your life. I've zero sympathy for some scumbag who thought it was a great idea to commit armed robbery. Was the killshot unnecessary? Yeah. Do I care about poor little robber? Fuck no. Good riddance.

The guy was stealing from people. The theft was stopped. The end.

TerraSeeker posted...

The guy was stealing from people. The theft was stopped. The end.

If it was the end when the theft was stopped, there'd be no problem. Instead he executed him after he was no longer a threat.

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Bleeding hearts are the worst

This reminds me of a case a few years back. Convenience store worker got robbed, shot and downed one of the robbers then chased the others out the door. When he came back, he reloaded his gun and executed the one who was downed.

It was wrong then and it's wrong now. Voluntary Manslaughter at best.

This is worse than the Rittenhouse incident imo.

The last shot is too much

A_Good_Boy posted...

Yup. He shoots him in the back 4 times as the robber is walking past him. The robber runs, stumbles, and falls at the door. Then the ggwg gets up and puts 4 more into the dude as he's walking over to his body. Then he pauses, looks over his body, reaches down and tosses the robbers gun away, then puts one more into the back of his head for good measure.

Oh yeah, thats just mentally disturbed behavior.

No, you don't get to murder people even if they are doing bad things.

Self defense is an entirely different concept than what happened here after a certain point.

And it's telling how most of you are defending this, and it shows you actually get that it wasn't self defense. You aren't even arguing that this guy was a threat at the point he was executed, you're simply saying you don't care about him and that he deserved to die.

That's lawless and depraved behavior. Society would become an incredibly violent and arbitrary place if people just decided as individuals when someone "deserves to die" regardless of whether they are still a threat.

DrizztLink posted...

This is gonna be another one of those topics where chuds can't get over their gunboner long enough to realize that executing people like that is frowned on by literally the Geneva Convention.

The Geneva Convention doesn't apply to citizens. It's for war crimes.

TerraSeeker posted...

The guy was stealing from people. The theft was stopped. The end.

FaytlessHearts posted...

If you're stupid enough to rob someone in the first place, fake gun or not, you deserve losing your life. I've zero sympathy for some scumbag who thought it was a great idea to commit armed robbery. Was the killshot unnecessary? Yeah. Do I care about poor little robber? Fuck no. Good riddance.

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Bleeding hearts are the worst

The best part of topics like these is that they're a great opportunity to utilize the tag function to label people who aren't to be taken seriously in adult conversations. These three posts are perfect examples of individuals who are not capable of having these kinds of discussions.

Absolutely he should be charged. He won't because...Texas. But by the letter of the law, what he did after the first few shots was illegal. Dude had probably itching for a situation to shoot and kill someone his entire life.

Disturbing but shit happens don't rob people