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Starks
02/09/23 8:24:06 PM
#51:


Drumhead is Trek at its best.

Part of why season 4 is ranked so highly despite some of the most cringe episodes.

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McMarbles
02/09/23 9:06:14 PM
#52:


hexa posted...
the Barclay actor is named Dwight Schulz. He is most famous for being on the original A-Team television show. His character on the A-team was named Murdoch
and that, as they say is that.

The mandolin gag was taken directly from Animal House.

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pegusus123456
02/10/23 1:59:49 AM
#53:


splodeymissile posted...
Politely breaks an instrument.
This was a reference to (I think) Animal House where a character breaks a guitar for the same reasons and then calmly apologizes. Edit: Whoops, there were two more posts ITT than I thought lol.

One thing mildly amusing/mildly sexist about this episode is that Sirtis and McFadden were the only members of the cast to actually be trained in fencing, but being women, they naturally just threw pots at people.

And yes, the Drumhead is an excellent episode. Thinking about it now, it may actually be my favorite one.

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splodeymissile
02/10/23 3:11:15 AM
#54:


pegusus123456 posted...
One thing mildly amusing/mildly sexist about this episode is that Sirtis and McFadden were the only members of the cast to actually be trained in fencing, but being women, they naturally just threw pots at people.

I mean, I noticed it, but I'm reaching the point of being loathe to flag up every bit of sexism I encounter. That's far worse than I thought, though. Absolutely inexcusable.

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pegusus123456
02/10/23 3:17:32 AM
#55:


The director apparently got letters about it. He basically said that because it was set in the 12th century, they just went with the time period.

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splodeymissile
02/10/23 9:19:07 AM
#56:


Episode 21: The Drumhead

McCarthyism and a bit of The Crucible.

Picard's initially happy to see Satie. Bit empathetic to his spooked crewman. Making him tea is a sweet scene. Rightly gets utterly infuriated by the absolute farce of a witch hunt. Has a nice grim thousand yard stare. Claims to be recovered from the Borg, but the death glare says otherwise. Love the way he subtly baits Satie into a meltdown.

Riker's good at playing a bad cop. Fantastic as counsel, too.

La Forge has an unenviable task.

Worf loses his temper and really enjoys the prospect of traitors dieing. Good at his job. Mentioning his father still isn't a wise idea. Enjoys witch hunts too much, but has a crisis of faith about it. Only just that he experience the same shit Tarses did.

Crusher gets interrogated. Tries to stonewall Tarses' session.

Troi's powers don't work. Typical.

Data's job isn't worth coveting, either.

Satie's quite encouraging and personal for an admiral. Reminds me of a schoolteacher. Her attitude towards Worf feels slightly patronising. Had a good scene of reminiscing about her father. Then, she proves herself to be a miserable reactionary fascist and becomes everything I despise. Her breakdown of having precisely zero social life sounds about right. Just a cloyingly self righteous lunatic who believes everything she does can be justified. Fantastic actor, though. Her breakdown at the end floored me.

Some nice overhead angles in the interrogation room. Most of the court (ish) scenes are good. Having Picard and Worf at opposite ends of the table is a clever way of portraying the gap between them. Find Picard's annoyance at the secretary typing everything hilarious. Henry silently storming off is a great moment.

I'm actually normally quite averse to courtroom episodes. There are a few reasons for this. The first is a matter of pure preference, but as one of many genres you can select for a genre runabout, I find them far less interesting than pretty much any other choice. Secondly, they occasionally try to say something big, but it often boils down to a bunch of lawyers making very milquetoast arguments about ethical principles that it would honestly be quite worrying if the audience didn't already have fully internalised. Finally, in those rare moments when something genuinely deep is presented, there's the unfortunate problem of most episodes in any show still fully supporting the basic idea of the legal system we have. Which may be great in theory, since there's a lot of sweet sounding slogans you can use to justify the institutions, but the actual efficacy of it can often leave something to be desired. You don't exactly have to look far to find dodgy judgements and even in systems that afford things like appeals, you're still reliant on the mythical good arbiter to save you, in a place where corruption is bound to run rampant, to say nothing of the prolonged stress and trauma the whole process often affords. I'm not sure I have even the first clue of what I would replace it with, but the older I get, the more convinced I am that the legal system is vastly overrated.

Luckily, this episode joins The Measure of a Man as one of the bunch that I like quite a bit and that's partly due to it pointing towards an obvious flaw with supposedly ideal systems: not everyone running it is ideal themselves. Because Satie's problem isn't just that she's paranoid, it's that she desires absolute control, can't tolerate being told no, has a tremendous amount of pride, is quite possibly an attention whore, fundamentally misunderstands the point of the institution and, once she goes full mask off, is practically untouchable. She's not merely overzealous in her conspiracy hunting, she's a full tilt demagogue who's chillingly adept at being nice towards people, justifying her atrocities through difficult to argue with soundbites and at pretending she's following some quasi religious mandate, both through her devotion to her father's legacy (which she hilariously doesn't grasp, either) and to Federation philosophy. It's surprisingly appropriate that I mentioned Frollo not long ago because if he were born a few centuries later, he'd likely act much the same. They're both fundamentally evil individuals who have bent their brains into maddening pretzels to seem righteous and I absolutely love that she gets no redemption, just a public spectacle outing her as the terrifying clown she is and a grim warning from Picard that, ironically, those who deliberately sow fear are the most deserving of vigilance. And, yet, one scene wonder Henry is the one who puts a stop to it, which makes the system of power seem all the more flawed and Picard's warning all the more poignant, since he may be fine, but what if he were just as mad? What would they do then?

Well made, tells an obvious, but necessary moral, without last minute compromises for once (no suddenly good officers), and has a refreshingly cynical eye on the genre its adopting.

Tomorrow's Half a Life.

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Medussa
02/10/23 9:39:21 AM
#57:


splodeymissile posted...
And, yet, one scene wonder Henry is the one who puts a stop to it

i'm very happy to see you call this out. He says so much despite having zero lines and 30 seconds of screen time.

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splodeymissile
02/12/23 4:56:24 PM
#58:


Nursing a hangover and, so, wasnt feeling it yesterday.

Episode 22: Half a Life

Didn't expect the yearly Lwaxanaganza to go so hard.

Picard's shell shocked, nervous glance around is a fine way to start the episode. As happy as ever to see Lwaxana. Reluctant to pay her a compliment.

Riker's on the verge of laughing his ass off again with Lwaxana.

La Forge doesnt seem amused by Lwaxana's antics. A bit premature, but his sincere joy at the star experiment was a sight to behold.

Worf expresses his exasperation with Lwaxana with force and politeness.

Crusher's appearances are the one bum note, being grotesquely token.

Troi's personal log is a single sentence of dread. Gets all but ignored. I've found her to be a bit unduly nasty towards her mother at times, and there's some of it here, but the transporter room scene is truly amazing.

Data agrees with Lwaxana's wisdom.

O'Brien finds Lwaxana a bit amusing. Knows when to make himself scarce.

Lwaxana takes to Timicin effortlessly. Truly wonderful seeing her break apart his nervous ramblings. Trying to comfort him is beautiful. Fully agree with her outrage over the shit society and seeing her silently (sort of) blub breaks me.

Timicin is sweetly adorable around Lwaxana. Punch in the gut to find out his trepidation around the experiment is partly due to the imminent death penalty. His sobs become all the more heart-rending. His little laugh before correcting himself after saying "my work" is some truly fine acting. Also love his line about how a parent is not entitled to anything for caring for their child. His crisis of faith and vacillating about his own views are wonderfully difficult to watch.

Speaking of children, his daughter is a piece of shit.

When Lwaxana burst onto the scene with perfect timing after Picard's scan around the corridor, I knew I was in for a treat. Even the mini camera trick with her walking right past Troi is great. The noises from the photon torpedoes has a Star Wars vibe. I appreciate that the debate around how to treat the elderly is approached with maturity and tact and with both sides having a reasonable argument (though, naturally, I'm on Lwaxana's side). I also appreciate that they have an alluded to sex scene between two older individuals that is handled with tact and grace.

This is one of those episodes that's almost difficult for me to even fully know what my own opinion is because it's not only expertly made, but it's about several different issues, almost all of which I have incredibly passionate views on and which the episode doesn't always quite agree with me on. The central issue is obviously euthanasia, but it uses that as a springboard to consider a range of other concepts, including the responsibilities of the younger generation, how to ensure that people can die with dignity, how someone's value can be tied to their work and whether its acceptable to encourage change in other cultures. Personally, I don't agree with the idea of treating the elderly as barely tolerated burdens and, yet, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I would be having a considerably miserable life if it weren't for the existence of care homes. I can see the argument of putting people down whilst they're still reasonably close to their prime, especially as we'll mercifully kill beloved animals for less, in order to prevent them degrading into vacant ghouls, but assigning a strict limit on how long you can live for is nonsense. So, there's room for a lot of intelligent debate and the actual scene hashing some of it out is great.

What I felt was missing from Timicin's arguments was the role of individual choice. So much seemed to hinge of deference to younger generations or the state and on how useful to society people are. Evaluating people according to perceived utility never sits right with me. So, when he elected to live because he felt that he had more to live for and more to offer, I was confident that that would be the central message. Instead, we nearly get a war, the man gets shamed by his own family and he elects to die because he feels like living is an act of selfishness. In any other episode, I'd be infuriated at that sort of ending, since it's completely contrary to my views and i prefer happy over tragic or bittersweet endings, but the quality of the whole affair, with the decent exploration of these ideas and the acknowledgement that some people aren't prepared to be the necessary change in a society, left me feeling surprisingly quite satisfied by the end.

It's also great that Lwaxana has moved on from mean spirited comic relief and into a far more nuanced character, with her viewpoints being treated with the seriousness they deserve. She's a far cry from the semi mystical quasi force of nature in Haven, but this is perfectly fine turn for her and I hope it continues.

Redeems Lwaxana's character in a truly moving and reasonably deep exploration of how the elderly are treated.

The Host, tomorrow.

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splodeymissile
02/13/23 8:55:06 AM
#59:


Episode 23: The Host

Crusher has interesting taste in men.

Picard can't get out of that conversation with Odan fast enough. Sympathetic to his suffering, though.

Riker respects Odan's wishes. Damn decent of him to volunteer to host him. Frakes gets to show off his acting by being Odan for a bit. Some subtle discomfort at the start and it is very cheeky to have him act like normal Riker briefly. Considering that he only temporarily gave up his body to keep Odan alive, it's hard not to read his and Crusher's continuing romance as slightly rapey.

La Forge makes a token appearance.

Worf looked like he wanted to say something at the end, but had an internal debate and elected to let Kareel's appearance speak for itself.

Crusher definitely needs to learn how to deal with Data better. Honesty is the best policy. Some spectacular acting when she's escorting him elsewhere. Her awkwardness in the spa(?) Is pretty great, too. Thankfully, does her job without becoming an emotional wreck, though theres still some understated trepidation. I'm not so thrilled with her self doubt over whether she's actually in love or not. Bit too infantilising. Im also not nearly as sympathetic to her problems with host switching as the episode wants me to be.

Troi's a bit teasingly catty with Crusher. Provides sound advice.

Data's confused by Crusher's behaviour, but not strongly enough to really care. Decent enough to volunteer.

Odan makes for one of the few decent relationship guest stars we've had. Actually has some decent chemistry with Crusher. Gives up on keeping their relationship a secret quite quickly.

When I first saw his gut pulsating, I actually though we might be seeing a male pregnancy. Good tension in the operation scene. The music is substantially more dramatic than it has been. I'm was wondering if we had a new composer. Felt that the ten forward scene veered into undeserved melodrama at times. Kareel was a twist I considered, but never thought they'd be brave enough to do. I mean, in the end they sort of weren't, but they almost touched on it.

I'm not quite sure what the point of this episode was. Crusher's objections to Odan seem to stem initially from him keeping the symbiosis from her which doesn't seem like the greatest reason since it's hardly reasonable to go over every bit of minutiae in your life before pursuing a romance, especially when its such a fundamental part of your being. Then, the problem becomes him being in Riker's body, which is far more understandable since he's literally a familiar face and dubiously consenting to the romance at best. Then, it's because he (they?) have a female body. Now, sexual attraction is a key component of most romantic relationships and its hardly acceptable to fault people for not being bisexual, so, I ordinarily wouldn't mind her rejecting Kareel's body, were it not for Troi all but convincing her that she was in love with Odan's mind. So, instead of it being a brief, but respectful look at the slightly uncomfortable issue of no longer being attracted to someone you love (done well, it could be fairly applicable to a range of issues like transgenderism, suddenly having a debilitating condition or deformity ect. (Not equating these issues, by the way), it's framed as Crusher finding new and exciting ways to be incredibly shallow, despite apparently getting over prior shallowness. Which puts it in the unfortunate tradition of female character focus episodes revolving around sudden relationships (mercifully, Odan is mostly alright by my standards) and/or inventing sudden and often sexist character flaws for them.

Confused to a truly impressive degree. Didn't much care for it.

Viewing The Mind's Eye, next.

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Medussa
02/13/23 9:02:17 AM
#60:


splodeymissile posted...
they?

if you want an actual answer to this question, with the least amount of spoilers i can manage:

the symbionts are referenced as "it"s, and the combined being is referred to by their host's preference.

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McMarbles
02/13/23 9:39:22 AM
#61:


Medussa posted...
if you want an actual answer to this question, with the least amount of spoilers i can manage:

the symbionts are referenced as "it"s, and the combined being is referred to by their host's preference.
This was kinda long before they/them really caught on as preferred non-binary pronouns. Isnt there a Trill officer in Discovery who goes by they/them?

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Medussa
02/13/23 9:42:41 AM
#62:


McMarbles posted...
This was kinda long before they/them really caught on as preferred non-binary pronouns. Isnt there a Trill officer in Discovery who goes by they/them?

yes, but that's the host's preference. though i do agree, if they were to introduce trill these days, they probably wouldn't use "it" for the symbionts either.

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splodeymissile
02/14/23 9:19:48 AM
#63:


Episode 24: The Mind's Eye

Romulans and torture go hand in hand.

Picard is a bit too humble. Fervently defends Worf. Always fun to see Stewart practice his Klingon.

Riker commands an investigation.

Feel like La Forge would be the one person on Risa to not get laid. At least he managed to find some comfort in that cramped shuttle. Typical of him to have a more playful personal log. I don't understand these characters trying to engage the computer as though it's a person. Doesn't have much fun once the Romulans get him. Dissonant smile after killing "O'Brien" is reasonably chilling. Grinning like a comedy buffoon after spilling his drink. His anger and confusion at the end is palpable.

Worf pays Picard's defence in kind with unwavering faith. Isn't thrilled to be investigating his friends. Doesn't seem thrilled to being contacted by Data, either.

Saw Crusher in ten forward. Not the most useful character in this piece.

La Forge and Troi's conversation is fantastic. Poor girl gets left hanging. Naturally enough, helps him begin to recover the truth.

Data learns a little about comedy (until he forgets it in time for the next episode). Does the bulk of the investigation. Noticeably angry when he realises La Forge is caught up in all this.

Fake O'Brien is presumably given a wisp of awareness just to test the conditioning. Seeing your friend being naturally worried about their impending death might make killing them slightly awkward. It occurs to me that the real O'Brien puts up with a lot of shit. Unfailingly polite even as he gets woken up for literally no reason.

Kell initially seems a decent sort. After a brief test, shows nothing but respect for Worf and Picard. Doesnt miss a beat when giving La Forge his orders, which makes the reveal quite a good scene. Vagh isn't anything special.

Seriously, though, that shuttle is proper cramped and the camera angle leaves you with even less room. Cool shot to have the warbird decloak in the background. Think i recognised Crosby's voice after her second line. Since we're obviously not meant to recognise her yet, I'm presuming this isnt a random character played by her, but is instead related to Yesterday's Enterprise. Bit of a treat to see through the visor a couple of times. Music is like harsh static whenever the conditioning takes hold. All that buildup just to spill a drink is actually pretty funny. The closeup on La Forge mucking about with computer chips is fairly menacing. Is it weird that I would happily devour a whole buffet of Klingon cuisine?

So, The Manchurian Candidate. I wish I had more to offer, but that's pretty much the final word on what this is. Perfectly fine recreation, though. No outstanding problems. Even the whole making La Forge a victim isn't too much of a problem, since he still gets to act like himself for most of the episode. Also, really appreciate that it's explicitly stated that it will take time for him to fully come to terms with this violation.

A perfectly fine, if relatively average, episode.

In Theory; the next episode, is tomorrow.

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pegusus123456
02/14/23 6:35:24 PM
#64:


splodeymissile posted...
. It occurs to me that the real O'Brien puts up with a lot of shit.
Just wait

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splodeymissile
02/15/23 9:02:03 AM
#65:


Episode 25: In Theory

I can think of worst first dates than blowing up a nebula together.

Picard is firmly in exploration mode. The look of utter horror on his face when Data comes for advice cracked me up. On reflection, rethinks his ghost theory.

Riker seems a little excited to make things go bang. Couldn't be more thrilled to see Data pursuing romance and is probably one of the better advice givers.

La Forge almost has a decent point to make, but awkwardly stumbles over it and eventually gives up.

Feel like Klingon romance has been significantly retconned here. Its nice for Worf to be protective. Isn't impressed by ghost stories.

Crusher shows up for a very mild spook.

Troi sees this for the minefield it is and gives genuinely good advice.

Data's got the same issue that Spock sometimes had where he's an accidental romantic. It's actually more than a little painful to see him not quite get it. It's always fun for his stilted attempts at expressing emotion to literally just be those emotions with extra steps. His effortless modulations between sitcom husband and himself are uncomfortably cringey. A nice forlorn look and a genuine interaction with Spot make it clear that this did actually matter to him (or at least, thats how i want to read it).

However, I can only tolerate his lack of understanding of other people for so long. The man is written hideously out of character and comes across as a complete idiot. Spiner's robotic mannerisms may be great, but the way he approaches his relationship with D'Sora is just wrong and not even in a funny way.

O'Brien needs to sort himself out. There's no excuse for leaving socks about. Sweetly encouraging, though.

Keiko needs to sort herself out. Shes his wife, not his mum. Absolutely adore their relationship.

Guinan is herself. I wish I had more to say about her, but she plays the same role in every episode she appears in.

D'Sora is sweet enough, but a bit of a needy stereotype. Its pretty clear from the start that her relationship with Dara isn't healthy, since she's basically just projecting onto a near blank slate.

The nebula shots are all breathtaking, even if they are stock footage. Always enjoy the musical interludes. Data's thrown back into overly literal mode and it's a little jarring, but mostly alright. Fun sequence to cut between all the characters giving advice. Phasing through the floor is a gruesome image. Apparently, Stewart directed this one. I'm afraid I didn't notice anything too interesting, otherwise, though. I will say that the escape sequence feels like it gets in the way of the romance (such as it is).

I really don't get how these writers can work with several women in the cast and crew and still fail to comprehend much of anything about them. Ultimately, its a mostly competent production, but I see it as just another ridiculous piece playing into the nonsense that men need a guidebook to pursue relationships. La Forge is irritating enough, but to have Picard all but describe an entire half of his species as a scary unknowable, funny though it is, is just awful. I don't even know what Worf thinks he's babbling about, considering he was all set to get married not long ago. I just have precisely zero tolerance for this trope. If you're fearful of or unable to empathise with women, then youre not mature enough to have a relationship. Its as simple as that. D'Sora is played far too well to be unlikeable and, yet, she's a clingy, flighty caricature at heart who's literally on the rebound and basically blames herself for the relationship's failure. I don't even want to discuss her much.

Really, though, it's Data that bothers me the most. I'm actually sick of this "becoming human" plot arc because precisely zero progress has apparently been made in 4 seasons. Spock was bad enough at times, but the strictly episodic nature of that show made it bearable, occasionally. With a greater push towards continuity, though, this show has no excuse for Data acting noticeably worse here than he has in basically every other episode. His lack of reaction to D'Sora dumping him is beyond apathetic and just straight up cruel. Similar to his reaction to Lal, I don't feel a sense of loss from his lack of emotions, I feel the same amount of nothing that he apparently does. It's like they're deliberately going for a lack of resolution and hoping that because it vaguely fits with the world building, it's be tolerated.

Because I try to open my reviews on as positive a note as possible, I sometimes wonder if my often glowing paragraphs on the characters seem a little inconsistent with my analysis part. Part of it is due to the fact that I consider dodgy themes to be a far worse crime than a dodgy production. At any rate, I'm empathising with Data. There's not much worth remembering.

Like too many romance episodes, it's uncomfortably sexist and nerdy. Like too many Data episodes, it butchers the character and accomplishes nothing. And like too many bad episodes, I find myself repeating the same criticisms time and time again. My heart was barely in this one.

Redemption is desperately needed.

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pegusus123456
02/15/23 9:16:17 AM
#66:


While The Orville is mostly just a pretty good show with the feel of TNG, this is one instance where they did a better job with basically the same storyline.

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splodeymissile
02/16/23 7:57:55 AM
#67:


Episode 26: Redemption

Closing on the Klingons.

Picard's friendship with Worf is a truly beautiful sight. Like his fealty to Klingon law. Utter pride when Worf gets his honour back. Tries to offer advice.

Riker thinks they should intervene.

Worf almost seems like he's given up initially. Asks for a favour from Gowron, but doesn't get very far, until a bit later. Continues to be honourable even as it makes his life difficult. Effectively disciplining a child when talking to Kurn. Wise plan to make Gowron pay for their aid. Gets to demonstrate his tactical acumen. Resigning clearly wasn't an easy choice for him.

Data makes himself useful.

Guinan shows Worf up at target practice and dispenses advice in the usual fashion.

The rest show up for a leaving do.

Kurn has become embroiled in politics.

Gowron continues to be mildly mad. Pays back his allies, though.

The Duras sisters aren't anything special, but are occasionally entertaining. The son is incredibly obnoxious.

Still like the target practice room. Klingon locations continue to be excellently moody. They try to hide Crosby's face in shadow, but it's not very effective. The restoration of Worf's honour is a pretty great scene, with the camera focusing on the bloody dagger as Worf's hand leaves it. A very clever line from Crosby at the end, even if I figured out the twist a couple of episodes ago. Makes a damn fine Romulan, though.

Beneath all the political manoeuvres and the culmination of the Klingon empire degrading, this is ultimately a story about Worf having to choose which of the two worlds he belongs to. Picard acts as a decent mirror for this because he's sort of trapped between two duties as well, yet because he's only really got emotional investment in the Starfleet side of things, despite understanding the stakes, he's able to make it through with a minimum of stress. Worf, of course, cares about both, but, as Guinan points out, he's always felt at a remove from his Klingon heritage, especially after his discommendation. Naturally, given the first opportunity to properly join, especially after being rejected, he's going to hyperfixate on Klingon society and on maintaining the ideal of their philosophy. Even without the fact that status quo is god and that Worf will obviously be back as part of the crew by next season, it wouldn't exactly be difficult to figure out that Worf is going to come to some revelation and realise that the Enterprise is the real culture he belongs to.

Reviewing part 1s is always difficult, as is ranking them, but this is a proper sound thriller that marks a brilliant culmination of the Klingon story arc.

Some rankings next.

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splodeymissile
02/16/23 9:03:20 AM
#68:


End of season 4.

Top 7:

The Best of Both Worlds, Part II (not quite as good as the first part, but still a fantastic opening).

Family (explores precisely what the title says in a magnificent display of love, trauma and healing).

The Wounded (O'Brien's focus episode is an almost flawless piece about the dangers of stewing in pain for too long)

Night Terrors (utterly superb horror themed episode)

The Drumhead (when you get me to actually appreciate courtroom drama, you've really accomplished something)

Half a Life (Still not sure about the ending, but it explores necessary themes with appropriate grace)

Redemption (its a rare thing where intentional series finales aren't among the best of the season and this is perfectly on brand)

Bottom 7:

Reunion (with most episodes hovering around a basic standard of quality now, offensiveness is more likely to be the deciding factor for me and I simply cannot abide fridging)

Final Mission (the fact that we lost a character and I still struggled to remember this says it all)

The Loss (at least we got a decent Troi episode to make up for this mess)

Devil's Due (probably the best of this bunch and its still a lesser TOS episode barely doled up)

Galaxy's Child (it's amazing how one bad decision can cripple an otherwise decent piece. That one decision is absolutely inexcusable, though.)

The Host (becomes more nasty the more I think about it)

In Theory (makes Data feel like he's wearing out his welcome)

Miscellaneous thoughts:

Remember Me (perfectly good episode brilliantly enhanced by allowing Crusher to actually be a character, instead of a sexist prop. Almost made top 7)

Data's Day (perfectly pleasant look at daily life. Almost made top 7)

The Nth Degree (I still really like it, but there's something vaguely unsatisfying on reflection. Almost made top 7)

Qpid (I'm about as lost as the script is. Its kind of nothing. If i felt much of anything, it might have snuck into the bottom 7)

Brothers (no danger of the bottom 7, but its predictably Spiner who saved it from complete mediocrity)

Legacy (no danger of the bottom 7, but it is a bewildering disappointment.)

Clues (no danger of any interesting place in the rankings, but I keep thinking back to how fun it is [a decent chunk of other episodes like Future Imperfect share this fate, but Clues is the one that most springs to mind. Sort of standing in for a whole bunch here]

Identity Crisis (if it leaned more into horror, like with those two genuinely amazing scenes, it may have been a decent challenger for Night Terrors' spot. As it stands, no danger of anywhere interesting).

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splodeymissile
02/17/23 10:46:58 AM
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(Trying to arrange a date, so, this review was done over a couple of hours. Might be on the inconsistent or incomplete side. If anyone wants my thoughts on something I've neglected to mention or thinks I've contradicted myself [which is perfectly possible, my minds swimming at the moment], feel free to ask. Also, as a point of advice, dont work evenings if you can avoid it. Fucks with your social life like nothing else)

Season 5

Episode 1: Redemption, Part II

Picard's decided to get involved. Had to correct his blind spot over Data's personhood again. Appreciate that his response to the massive lore dump over last Sela's existence is to just get on with shit. In full sweetheart mode with how he treats Data and Worf.

Riker can't get away from offers of captaincy. Always appreciates a good plan.

La Forge gets a temporary promotion.

Worf takes some goading to get into the party atmosphere, but eventually gets it. Only sane man on Gowron's ship. Don't blame him for rejecting the Duras sisters. Decent of him to spare Toral's life, although the little snot is such an obnoxious creature that I doubt I would've held it against him.

Crusher shows up.

Troi's about and gives a not quite an answer about Sela.

Data gets to be captain and does appear to have something of an ego now. Closest thing to irritation he can get when denying Hobsons's request and dealing with his blatant bigotry. Straight up angry with him on a couple of occasions. Always gratifying to see him taking initiative against orders.

O'Brien has Worf's job.

Guinan attempts to set the record straight on Yar, but its a bit confused. Dont like her blaming Picard for this.

Kurn is definitely the fun brother. Has just the right amount of enjoyment when he captures Toral.

Gowron's madness is showing more and more. Its mostly a political move, but it seems that there was some genuine decency in offering Toral's life to Worf. Hilariously doesn't miss a beat when Worf refuses.

Sela's alright. Crosby seems a hell of a lot more comfortable with this role than she ever did with Yar. Quite like her back and forth with Picard and the way she outsmarted a couple of his manoeuvres. Felt that there should have been a bit more to her, though.

Nice way to open by screaming in with a battle scene. Klingon bars seem like a fun time. Gowron grinning like a loon in the misty captain's chair is a great shot. Sela's proper reveal is an obvious, but decent cliffhanger. I do not like at all the story they gave alternate Yar. Completely ruins what Yesterday's Enterprise did for her. It's a bit tolerable, though, because both characters are played by the same actor.

As predicted, Worf discovers that real Klingon culture isn't quite his cup of tea and elects to return to the Enterprise. There's a decent smattering of scenes to highlight this point, including his frequent disagreements with Kurn. Great though she is, I'm a little baffled by Sela's prescence, especially since her lore dump is more or less dismissed. She does a fine job as an antagonist and then sort of buggers off without much fanfare. Feels more like she was a teaser for a later episode. Data's plot is a perfectly fine showcase for him.

Compared to The Best of Both Worlds, I think it's slightly lacking in the two parter category. We have three really great episodes in one, but it's sort of less than the sum of its parts. I don't feel that Worf's revelation and return to the Enterprise got as much screen time as it deserved and, as mentioned, Sela eventually wanders off without incident. Data does just fine, but I wonder if it were fully wise to even include it here.

Nitpicking aside, it's a fun opener, let down by a dodgy backstory and foreshadowing that it doesn't fully seem comfortable with. Not quite The Best of Both Worlds, but it's a comfortable second place.

No idea what Darmok is, except that it's next.

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02/17/23 10:56:57 AM
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Temba, his arms wide!

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02/17/23 10:59:09 AM
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splodeymissile posted...
No idea what Darmok is, except that it's next.
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Foppe
02/17/23 11:30:45 AM
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McMarbles posted...
Temba, his arms wide!
Shaka, when the walls fell.

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02/17/23 12:06:13 PM
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Zinda, his eyes red.

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02/17/23 12:31:38 PM
#74:


Hows the dating going?

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splodeymissile
02/17/23 1:56:20 PM
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Foppe posted...
Hows the dating going?
Met her last Friday on a night out. Meeting her again tonight at 8. Was supposed to be tomorrow, but she couldn't make it, wanted it today, so, now I'm pulling a sickie.

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pegusus123456
02/17/23 7:58:11 PM
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Now you have the full story on why Tasha Yar possibly has the worst luck in all of fiction.

In a time when humanity has achieved utopia, she's born on the planet of rape gangs. She escapes, but her sister is so indoctrinated into the culture that she's forced to leave her behind. She has a few years of happiness in Starfleet before she's casually killed by a tar monster. Timeline fuckery gives her a chance to have her death mean something, so she stays behind to die in glory.

Instead she's captured and forced into sexual slavery. The one bright spot is that her rape gives her a daughter that she genuinely loves. She finally gets the chance to escape with her daughter, but Sela shouts for the guards and has her mother captured. She's executed knowing that her daughter will spend her life serving one of her worst enemies, but at least she didn't know that she'd one day try to destroy the Enterprise, the only place in her life that she was happy.

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02/17/23 8:10:43 PM
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you missed alternate yar fighting a losing war against the klingons for her entire career.

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02/17/23 8:51:24 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Tbf, Crosby herself came up with the idea for how she could return by being Sela.

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02/19/23 6:36:52 PM
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Episode 2: Darmok

So, thats what you lot were blathering about. Language truly is a beautiful thing.

Picard's new jacket is fucking nice. Enjoy his optimism at being able to communicate with the Children of Tama. Fun seeing him learn the rules of the language. Assumes aggression a bit too readily. Great though his realisation is, expressing it as example and metaphor seems slightly simple. It's correct, but the way its phrased doesn't sit right with me. Reciting The Epic of Gilgamesh is a phenomenal scene.

Riker naturally gets in a flap over losing Picard. Tends towards the aggressive. It suits the themes, so, I'm not going to consider it a problem, but a few tend towards being out of character and Riker gets the worst of it.

La Forge offers a mildly impractical solution.

Worf considers the more threatening possibilities. Some hesitation when bringing the shuttle back. There was a neat touch to Dorn's acting when he and Riker were debating shooting down the ship. The way he almost half shrugs, conceding the point, when Riker tells him it's a last resort suggest that either Worf is more comfortable with being on the Enterprise after the last episode or Dorn is simply more comfortable in the role. Nice thing to notice, regardless.

I'm assuming that McFadden's pregnancy/recently given birth is why she's been relatively absent from the more recent episodes.

Troi's on the optimistic side. Has a eureka moment. Kind of like her arguing with Worf. Feels like they're making a more concerted effort to have all the characters be more involved with this season.

Data exposits. Shares Troi's exasperation as best he can. It's actually quite cool seeing these two work closely together. His explanation of the language was more what I was looking for.

O'Brien almost works a miracle.

Even when completely incomprehensible, you're able to get a vague feeling from the Tamarians of what they're about. Dathon demonstrates immense patience despite his frustration and has to discipline his right hand man after he mocks the main characters as though they are children. The transporter plan is clearly a last resort because he knows that it will be taken as an aggressive act. His laugh during The Epic of Gilgamesh is incredible.

Even in just the cold open, I had great fun in trying to decipher exactly what they're trying to communicate. I'm typing up these thoughts after each commercial break because I think that's more in the spirit of things (not that there's anyway to prove it). Plus, I want to experiment with what im doing here and im in a good mood, besides. Assuming the universal translator is vaguely functioning and that there is some correspondence between English and their language, then the frequent use of proper nouns, often with reference to a location or event seem to suggest that context and meaning is conveyed through reference to an important story in their shared history or mythology that likely dealt with that idea. A name or collection of names indicate the intended emotion to convey, with locations and times serving the role of adjectives. The poetic nature of all these lines remind me of many works in the oral tradition. The preamble through genealogies at the start of Beowulf most immediately springs to mind.(Cold open).

It becomes pretty obvious quite quickly what the meaning of lines like "his eyes shut" (ignorance, lack of understanding, misconception) mean. "His arms open" is explained by Picard and thank god he doesn't take forever to get there. (Act one).

Troi and Data basically stumble upon the shared history idea. Makes this experiment slightly embarrassing for me, even if you choose to believe that im playing legit. I was hoping for more of a puzzle box. (Act two).

Picard gets clued up and confirms most of my theories. I will admit to one misunderstanding. I assumed "when the walls fell" may have referred to a breaking down of barriers between peoples. In hindsight, failure is more logical answer. The specifics of some lines do still escape me at this stage, too. (Act three).

Nothing much to say, except that I'm delighted at how far they are taking this exploration of language. (Act four).

Even aside from the joys of language, its an excellent production all round.

I actually really admire how mature and thorough the episode with this exploration of language. There is far more to understanding a people than simply substituting one set of sounds for another and having a species whose language is dependent on awareness of their culture for even the slightest ghost of understanding is one of the most brilliant metaphors for that idea. I particularly enjoyed the discussion in the observation deck about how their unique language informs the way they think, much as it often precedes thought in human cultures, despite being intended to express thought. Taking the discussion as far as ancient Sumer and The Epic of Gilgamesh is just remarkable, invoking one of the earliest societies to have developed both a still extant language and literature. A levels don't quite prepare you for the full richness of discovering how language functions, so much as they give you a tantalising taste and, so, I find myself wonderfully out of my depth (as well as out of time. In fact, im slipping on these reviews of late) to fully describe everything I want to. I will add one final thought that it's not lost on me that is basically Arena, but far more idealistic.

I'm actually astonished. This was truly beautiful and went far further than I would've expected.

Ensign Ro is a bit more obviously a character.

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02/19/23 7:20:52 PM
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splodeymissile posted...
Episode 2: Darmok

So, thats what you lot were blathering about. Language truly is a beautiful thing.

Picard's new jacket is fucking nice. Enjoy his optimism at being able to communicate with the Children of Tama. Fun seeing him learn the rules of the language. Assumes aggression a bit too readily. Great though his realisation is, expressing it as example and metaphor seems slightly simple. It's correct, but the way its phrased doesn't sit right with me. Reciting The Epic of Gilgamesh is a phenomenal scene.

Riker naturally gets in a flap over losing Picard. Tends towards the aggressive. It suits the themes, so, I'm not going to consider it a problem, but a few tend towards being out of character and Riker gets the worst of it.

La Forge offers a mildly impractical solution.

Worf considers the more threatening possibilities. Some hesitation when bringing the shuttle back. There was a neat touch to Dorn's acting when he and Riker were debating shooting down the ship. The way he almost half shrugs, conceding the point, when Riker tells him it's a last resort suggest that either Worf is more comfortable with being on the Enterprise after the last episode or Dorn is simply more comfortable in the role. Nice thing to notice, regardless.

I'm assuming that McFadden's pregnancy/recently given birth is why she's been relatively absent from the more recent episodes.

Troi's on the optimistic side. Has a eureka moment. Kind of like her arguing with Worf. Feels like they're making a more concerted effort to have all the characters be more involved with this season.

Data exposits. Shares Troi's exasperation as best he can. It's actually quite cool seeing these two work closely together. His explanation of the language was more what I was looking for.

O'Brien almost works a miracle.

Even when completely incomprehensible, you're able to get a vague feeling from the Tamarians of what they're about. Dathon demonstrates immense patience despite his frustration and has to discipline his right hand man after he mocks the main characters as though they are children. The transporter plan is clearly a last resort because he knows that it will be taken as an aggressive act. His laugh during The Epic of Gilgamesh is incredible.

Even in just the cold open, I had great fun in trying to decipher exactly what they're trying to communicate. I'm typing up these thoughts after each commercial break because I think that's more in the spirit of things (not that there's anyway to prove it). Plus, I want to experiment with what im doing here and im in a good mood, besides. Assuming the universal translator is vaguely functioning and that there is some correspondence between English and their language, then the frequent use of proper nouns, often with reference to a location or event seem to suggest that context and meaning is conveyed through reference to an important story in their shared history or mythology that likely dealt with that idea. A name or collection of names indicate the intended emotion to convey, with locations and times serving the role of adjectives. The poetic nature of all these lines remind me of many works in the oral tradition. The preamble through genealogies at the start of Beowulf most immediately springs to mind.(Cold open).

It becomes pretty obvious quite quickly what the meaning of lines like "his eyes shut" (ignorance, lack of understanding, misconception) mean. "His arms open" is explained by Picard and thank god he doesn't take forever to get there. (Act one).

Troi and Data basically stumble upon the shared history idea. Makes this experiment slightly embarrassing for me, even if you choose to believe that im playing legit. I was hoping for more of a puzzle box. (Act two).

Picard gets clued up and confirms most of my theories. I will admit to one misunderstanding. I assumed "when the walls fell" may have referred to a breaking down of barriers between peoples. In hindsight, failure is more logical answer. The specifics of some lines do still escape me at this stage, too. (Act three).

Nothing much to say, except that I'm delighted at how far they are taking this exploration of language. (Act four).

Even aside from the joys of language, its an excellent production all round.

I actually really admire how mature and thorough the episode with this exploration of language. There is far more to understanding a people than simply substituting one set of sounds for another and having a species whose language is dependent on awareness of their culture for even the slightest ghost of understanding is one of the most brilliant metaphors for that idea. I particularly enjoyed the discussion in the observation deck about how their unique language informs the way they think, much as it often precedes thought in human cultures, despite being intended to express thought. Taking the discussion as far as ancient Sumer and The Epic of Gilgamesh is just remarkable, invoking one of the earliest societies to have developed both a still extant language and literature. A levels don't quite prepare you for the full richness of discovering how language functions, so much as they give you a tantalising taste and, so, I find myself wonderfully out of my depth (as well as out of time. In fact, im slipping on these reviews of late) to fully describe everything I want to. I will add one final thought that it's not lost on me that is basically Arena, but far more idealistic.

I'm actually astonished. This was truly beautiful and went far further than I would've expected.

Ensign Ro is a bit more obviously a character.
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02/20/23 10:41:54 AM
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splodeymissile
02/20/23 11:26:42 AM
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Episode 3: Ensign Ro

I know the Bajora become quite important to Deep Space Nine, so, its nice being introduced to them.

Picard going for a trim is one of those things that obviously must happen on a regular basis and yet the image still threw me. I share his annoyance at overly chatty barbers. Sees through the admiral's bullshit and has quite a bit of sympathy for the Bajora. Well, until he hears about Ro. Quite patient with her, though and it's nice to see him try to provide for the Bajora. Publicly outing Kennely as an idiot is an excellent power move.

Riker's apparently had dealings with Mot's conversation skills, too. Absolute arse with Laren. Unlikeability is becoming a pattern with him. Like, he is genuinely angry, and is even slightly snappy with Picard, and I finding it difficult to appreciate his character because of it.

La Forge is another miserable watch. Needlessly hostile to Ro, but without the balls to say it to her face.

Worf is so incredibly casual these days, it's wonderful. Took his time, but he really is fully settled on the Enterprise now.

Rather natural for Crusher to admire good dancers.

Id have thought Troi could have approached Ro with a bit more tact, given shes a counsellor. Noticed shes arguing with Worf a lot.

Data is one of the few to treat Ro like a person. They're allowing Spiner to emote a bit more. Still stilted, but slightly more interesting to watch, even in scenes that dont really focus on him.

After finding Guinan slightly tiresome in her past few episodes, her reaction to Ro has completely redeemed her character once again for me. Willfully annoying and knowing precisely what shes doing, i have nothing but respect for people whos first instinct when they encounter the isolated is to try to connect, especially as its the sort of man i try to be myself.

Ro immediately wins sympathy from me. Never cared for uniform, myself and her distaste for the stuffiness of military protocol is also something im firmly on board with. Appreciate her being intelligent enough and outspoken enough to dismiss the plan as impotent realpolitik that'll accomplish nothing. Her conservations with Guinan are some truly brilliant scenes.

Opening on Picard doing something so mundane, with so little fanfare, as getting his hair cut is similar to the slice of life scenes that properly started in season 2, yet there's something noticeably more seamless and confident here. Only three episodes in and this season already feels like the show is at the height of its powers. The first shot after the credits being of the admiral snotting all over himself has a similar feel. Speaking of the credits, I don't mind the new logo, but I do prefer the old one. Some of the lighting in certain scenes is reminiscent of how the first two seasons handled it. Orta has a magnificently nasty voice.

Aside from Ro being a truly excellent character, it's nice for this episode to lightly discuss the plight of war refugees. I was worried at a few points, though. While I don't believe that attacking innocents is ever justified, it was hard for me to not see Picard's demand that the terrorism stop as somewhat unsympathetic to the very real suffering that the Bajora are going through. There tends to be a patronising attitude among the well off towards such refugees that leads to the condemning of theft and other "crimes" that may actually be necessary for basic survival. Attacking an entirely separate government may be a completely different and more severe issue, but the tone its delivered with reeks of an overly privileged attitude. It's a bit of a moot point, though, since the episode goes in a different direction.

More worryingly is the characterisation of some of the main cast, whose attitude towards Ro ranges from merely nasty to seemingly bigoted. Having familiar characters suddenly act like dicks is not something I need.

Riker and Co being unpleasant stops it from being great, but Ro alone almost saved it.

Silicon Avatar is next.

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02/20/23 11:45:44 AM
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splodeymissile posted...
Aside from Ro being a truly excellent character, it's nice for this episode to lightly discuss the plight of war refugees. I was worried at a few points, though. While I don't believe that attacking innocents is ever justified, it was hard for me to not see Picard's demand that the terrorism stop as somewhat unsympathetic to the very real suffering that the Bajora are going through. There tends to be a patronising attitude among the well off towards such refugees that leads to the condemning of theft and other "crimes" that may actually be necessary for basic survival. Attacking an entirely separate government may be a completely different and more severe issue, but the tone its delivered with reeks of an overly privileged attitude. It's a bit of a moot point, though, since the episode goes in a different direction.

More worryingly is the characterisation of some of the main cast, whose attitude towards Ro ranges from merely nasty to seemingly bigoted. Having familiar characters suddenly act like dicks is not something I need.

Riker and Co being unpleasant stops it from being great, but Ro alone almost saved it.

Silicon Avatar is next.
DS9 gets deep into this topic over it's run. Lots of questions over how to punish people involved in running forced labor camps. Also, questions of should we punish people that commit acts of violence against civilians occupying their homes. It's one of the things I love about DS9 in that it allows the exploration of the long term consequences of the Federation actions because DS9 is stationary instead of the typical Star Trek "fly to planet, do a thing, leave without ever seeing long term effects of said thing".

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02/21/23 12:51:31 AM
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splodeymissile posted...
Absolute arse with Laren. Unlikeability is becoming a pattern with him. Like, he is genuinely angry, and is even slightly snappy with Picard, and I finding it difficult to appreciate his character because of it.
Yeah, this episode (and one other that I distinctly remember) makes me think Riker's just actually an asshole. He's primarily fine in the show because he's dealing with people of similar rank, but he's an absolute dick as a boss. The kinda guy who's sweet as pie to his date, then all but spits in the waiter's face.

Demanding Ro take her earring off when the security officer wears a pageant sash everywhere he goes is just incredibly petty.

splodeymissile posted...


Aside from Ro being a truly excellent character, it's nice for this episode to lightly discuss the plight of war refugees. I was worried at a few points, though. While I don't believe that attacking innocents is ever justified, it was hard for me to not see Picard's demand that the terrorism stop as somewhat unsympathetic to the very real suffering that the Bajora are going through.

You're gonna love DS9.

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02/21/23 8:52:46 AM
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Episode 4: Silicon Avatar

I was wondering if we were ever going to see that thing again.

Picard does not enjoy waiting. Good on him for shutting down Marr's bigotry. Admire him being willing to advocate for the entity. Sees right through Riker. His death glares truly are the stuff of legend.

Riker effortlessly flirts and worms his way back to being enjoyable in the cold open alone. The calmest of professional reactions to the crystal entity, which is nice to see. Utterly devastated by the destruction. His aggressive tendencies are more understandable in this one.

La Forge does his job and has some admiration for Marr.

Yeah, Dorn is definitely giving Worf some extra facial ticks, even when he has a relatively standard role.

Its nice having Crusher properly about.

Troi tries to reassure as always. Bit sarky about Marr.

Data is useful with his educated guesses. Genuinely confused by Marr's dislike of him. Always nice to see him playing music. Has far more empathy and sympathy for Marr than I will ever manage.

Davila is a delight from the word go. Shame she died.

Fucking hell, Marr is an irredeemable travesty of a human being. Aside from her excitement of the entity being a bit weird when she first appears, the visible annoyance every time Data opens his mouth and the deliberately ignoring him make her incredibly unlikeable. Ranting about his lack of pain makes it clear that her behaviour exists for the sole purpose of hurting him and that catapults her into hateable. Ive never had too much patience for people who use tragedy, however severe the loss, as an excuse to stew in spiteful anger, so, bringing up her dead son doesn't make her sympathetic, it just makes her more sickening.

Even when she starts to be decent and connect with Data, the focus on her son's memories seems somehow icky. Like she's still looking straight through him and seeing a useful tool instead of a person. Her affection towards her son substitute is also a bit weird. I expected her to have the inevitable character development and for it to change nothing about my original evaluation, but they actually keep her as off as she feels.

Pretty cool storm effect and lighting when the entity first shows up. Can definitely see a new standard in cinematography with the opening escape sequence. A couple of truly beautiful shots with the entity looming above and some lens flare covering Riker's face. The laser just annihilating things is surprisingly effective. Cool choice to have the episode title appear only when we get to the Enterprise. Half expected Worf to be Lore. Pretty impressive shot showing the desolation on the planet. A lot of smooth shots overlooking computers.

It's a pretty standard tale of how wearing anger and resentment for too long can turn you into a completely demented ghoul of a person. I am impressed at how unlikeable they make Marr. In fact, they almost deliberately bait out the previous seasons' trick of teasing character development to make them vaguely reasonable, only to mercifully never bother. I also really like Picard's assertion that needing to eat in order to survive is not evil.

So, its a slightly interesting angle on a familiar story, surrounded by high production values and with a guest star who's probably going to haunt me for a while. Just above average, then.

Let's hope Disaster isn't.

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02/22/23 9:52:00 AM
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Episode 5: Disaster

Yeah, it didn't lie.

Picard's difficulty in dealing with children has become so familiar that I was watching his wasp chewing expressions with complete bemusement instead of mild cringe and irritation. Much as I love kids, I did start to share his frustration at their incessant whining. Involving them as pseudo crew isn't an awful idea, but most kids would recognise the job of officer in charge of radishes as a bit of a nothing role.

Riker is a very vain man. Takes charge immediately. Incredulous over Data's plan. In danger of losing his job.

La Forge does the right thing and gets a role in The Pirates of Penzance. Its nice seeing him work with Crusher, since these two aren't really around each other much.

Good to see Worf run an ad hoc sick bay without any complaints. Vast difference from his attitude in the first season. Finds pregnancy inconvenient, but does well enough.

Crusher is putting on a show and won't take no for an answer. Great seeing her and La Forge use their respective expertise for problem solving.

Troi finds the whole tour business hilarious. Quite out of her depth with command, which doesn't seem right. Shouldn't she have had similar training to Riker or at least Data? Not immediately grasping that a loss of containment means boom is kind of a dunce move.

Data is enamored with new life. Getting decent at non verbal communication. Spiner has some fun with his facial expressions.

O'Brien's a cheeky chap to his missus, but I proper love their relationship. Incidentally, Michael is what I'd like to call my first born, so, he's got good taste. Basically the one who's really in command, but he's unfailingly polite about it. Appreciate him knowing when Troi needs something patiently explained to her.

Keiko is still wonderful. Doesn't believe that labour is up for debate. Fantastic dynamic with Worf.

Ro was a surprise, but a very welcome one. I guess she's joined O'Brien as a pseudo main character? Still a bit of a maverick, which is always great. Doesn't get on well with O'Brien. Kind of in the right with the saucer separation debate.

It's still nice to just have a bunch of daily life vignettes before the action starts. Fits with the disaster movie riff they're putting on, since showing a bunch of ordinary folks' lives beforehand is how they try to get you invested. That spark shower from the console was quite brutal. The plasma fire looks somewhat necrotic. Almost otherworldly. Troi, O'Brien and Ro is very similar to Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Bit of a gratuitous shot seeing everyone climb up the ladder. Child actors weren't completely awful. I probably shouldn't like the childbirth plot as much as I do, but Worf and Keiko's actors save it.

It's difficult to add much more. I mean, TNG is doing a disaster movie themed episode, it hits the right tropes and its quite good fun. It is nice to see some unusual pairings between the cast members and to see them doing jobs they don't normally. Even though part of the point is obviously to see them out of their comfort zone, I think, for the most part, save perhaps Troi, they all accredit themselves well.

Firmly decent genre romp. Fun and that's about it.

The Game is next.

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Smiffwilm
02/22/23 11:56:16 AM
#90:


splodeymissile posted...
The Game is next.
And we all just lost.

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pegusus123456
02/22/23 6:36:13 PM
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splodeymissile posted...


Troi finds the whole tour business hilarious. Quite out of her depth with command, which doesn't seem right. Shouldn't she have had similar training to Riker or at least Data?
She hasn't had any command training. IIRC, the idea is that being a ship counselor comes with a more-or-less honorary rank and it's purely through technicality that she ends up being the highest ranking crewman in the room. I believe this is true of real Navy ships too, though MemoryAlpha notes that they don't actually fall into the chain of command proper. They just bent the rules for this episode.

In contrast, Crusher has had bridge training, so even though being a medical officer may have let her get a head start on the ranks, she does genuinely hold the rank of commander.

One thing I do think would have made the episode more interest is something Piller said about Ro Laren. He said it would have been truer to her character if at the end, she kept her stance. Basically tell Troi, "You made the wrong decision, it could have killed us and it was only sheer luck that made everything turn out okay."

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02/23/23 8:07:33 AM
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Episode 6: The Game

Oh, no.

Picard is happy to have Wesley back. No accounting for taste. The conversation about Boothby is pretty great, though. Personally, I think A F is more important than organic chemistry.

Riker has one of the more gracious o faces I've seen, but I'm still not sure I needed to see it. His obsession with the game is slightly understated, which is probably for the best. Doesn't like fudge, so, there's an incorrect opinion.

La Forge is very busy. Very optimistic about Wesley's love life, but, then, he is blind, so....

Worf has made some nice looking cake.

McFadden gets some good acting when mucking about with Data. Crusher is still very removed from her son. Quite uncomfortable to have him walk in whilst she's having a wank.

Never been much into erotic eating, so, Troi's babble is lost on me. No objection to these characters having a healthy sex life, but Sirtis is a bit too happy and smiles a bit too widely for my tastes.

Data is very interested in Wesley's progress. I can sooner see him having a nice date than the boy wonder, even if his first year was awkward as sin. Wants to be a dance teacher.

Wesley is here and Im not exactly thrilled. He was tolerable for the most part, although muttering about his school life makes me want to zone out, right up until he became stereotypical nerd in front of Leffler. Sort of puts her down over the way she does her work. Asking her out and his performance on the date is just about acceptable. Law 103 is the perfect end to this shitshow.

O'Brien is still wonderfully polite. Probably the only person who can be nice to Wesley without seeming off. Don't really need to see him in the throes of pleasure, either.

Leffler needs to sort herself out. Shes got far too much going for her to settle for Wesley. The laws are a pretty cheap attempt at characterisation, but it works well enough for me.

The opening tryst is a bit played out and cliched, but surprisingly fun and we get some interesting camera movement. The dodgy CGI immediately makes the titular game look very off and creepy and having Etana's face hovering past it doesn't help. Sex is obvious a big theme, with the titillating look at a chocolate sundae being one of the more obvious examples. I like sundaes, but, again, erotic eating ain't my bag. The trap they spring for Data has a lot of similarly intimate angles. Wesley suddenly entering your field of view would be the ultimate mood killer. The camera helpfully informs us that Picard is already compromised before Wesley walks in. Seeing Wesley and Leffler panting on the bed is one of the most hilarious images I've ever witnessed. Scratch that, grown ass adults chasing after a young man to try and addict him to the thrills of masterbation is.

What a glorious mess. Like, this is an after school special on the "dangers" of sex, right? The most obviously promiscuous member of the group stuck his dick in crazy, blinded by lust to the obvious problems she flags up. A game is spread around that is literally just masterbation and, naturally, once you orgasm once, you're addicted for life. Wesley is spared only by having a chaste "romance" with a real girl, who naturally falls from grace due to her own lust (fuck this episode for that, by the way. Her characterisation may be token, but Leffler was the one bright spot in this farce and I'm not even allowed to enjoy that), leading him to become an antisex crusader (pitch perfect casting, since nothing will ruin a mood quite like invoking Wesley bloody Crusher) who's menaced by predatory drug pusher esque older adults. The only way to resist is through constant vigilance, since if you even see anything to do with it, you're lost forever. And the only way for salvation is through a sexless android to literally show us the light and get us back to working on an agonising, exhausting and somewhat nebulous task like good Christians ought to. Worse yet, once we have our "ideal" romance between Wesley and Leffler, despite clearly not being able to get their tongues down each other's throats deep enough, apparently they are just "good friends". It's also a bit anti video game, in general, isnt it? Episodes like this are why, despite only having middling qualifications at best, I try to include something resembling a deep analysis in every review. This shit is too insidious to be consumed thoughtlessly.

Hating this is like hating Reefer Madness. It's too much of a clown show for me to feel too appalled, but make no mistake, it stands for nearly everything I despise in western media.

A two parter midway through? Unification is next.

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splodeymissile
02/24/23 10:28:02 AM
#93:


Episode 7: Unification I

Spock is back!

Picard has nothing but admiration and respect for Sarek and has a decent chunk for Spock, too. Handles this issue as delicately as he can. Heartbroken at Sarek's state. Has great fun turning up the smarm when Gowron keeps ducking his calls. Acts enthusiastic about his stay on a Klingon ship.

Riker understands strained relationships with fathers. Finds Gowron's sudden compliment hilarious. Still loving his slightly looser command style.

La Forge does some detective work.

Worf has been keeping tabs on his people.

Crusher gets into the prosthetics business.

Troi finds Riker's plight hilarious, right up until he suggests she make a new friend. Then, the smile runs away from her face.

Data does more research than expected. Graciously gives up the shelf. I'm convinced he's deliberately taking the piss when he agonisingly turns away from Picard. Very clearly a comedy character here.

Perrin is still wearing hideous outfits. Doesn't like Spock much, but its born out of protectiveness.

Lenard is as magnificent as always. His snarling, impotent rage is both terrifying and pitiable. Even when lucid, he's more emotional than a Vulcan would ever consider acceptable and feels notably smaller and weaker during these apparent good moments. The confused vacancy in his eyes when the dementia takes over again and he begins rambling about random trivia from Spock's childhood breaks me all over again. Being unable to finish the Vulcan salute just leaves a feeling of emptiness. Truly amazing performance.

Kind of touching to give Roddenberry a moment. Spock's appearance alone is all you need for a cold open. The scene between Picard and Sarek is an absolute masterclass. From the first top down shot of Sarek writhing in confused emotional agony, the attention is hooked and never let go. The Klingon ship feels more cramped than most. Ship graveyard is a cool shot. Data uncomfortably loitering in the background is a hilarious image. The mystery ship is a cool, sleek design and the brief battle has some nice shots. Found the explosion a bit unsatisfying, though. Romulan disguises never look right. Romulus is a fine planet. Naturally, much of the episode was just build up to that shot of Nimoy's return.

Like most first parts, it's hard to even grasp at a summary when you've only seen half the story. For the most part, it is just a fun bit of set up to some Romulan intrique, but there were grains of a theme encountered when Picard heard of Sarek's death. He and Data had a pretty decent conversation about the need for emotional healing, which matches quite well with Sarek's prior delirium, since the poor guy didn't just die a bit of a ghoul, but a tormented one at that. Vulcan ideology may have allowed for an advanced civilisation, but it is grossly unhealthy for the individual and I imagine that even if they didn't share his specific condition, the expectations of emotional repression has resulted in many Vulcans dieing in a similarly wounded state to Sarek. Given that Spock's big thing in his show was obviously the battle between his emotional and logical sides, I wouldn't be shocked if the final word of this two parter is of him (once again) finding a reconciliation (or Unification, if you like) of his two halves.

Pretty sensible idea to do this as part of the 25th anniversary celebrations, too.

It kept my attention and was fun throughout, but it is kind of just a lot of build up. The stuff directly concerning Sarek is truly excellent, though.

We'll unify Unification next.

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splodeymissile
02/26/23 2:53:35 PM
#94:


I'm a bit shit at weekends these days. Hungover, too, so, this won't be the greatest post I've made.

Episode 8: Unification II

Yeah, I suppose unification between Vulcans and Romulans was the more obvious title meaning.

Appreciate that Picard isn't overly deferential to Spock. Sees the Romulan trap immediately. Stewart is such a great actor that for a few scenes, I simply didn't notice the dodgy Romulan disguise. Interesting to have his personality compared to a Vulcan's.

Riker is as effortless in bars as you'd expect. Straight up threatens a man. Love that he's willing to disregard orders.

La Forge does his job.

Worf has a deep love of music.

Crusher gives a false report.

Troi asks the important questions.

Data is in hypercompetence mode. Appreciates metaphors. Gets on well with Spock, as we'd all expect. Finds the fact that he is the Vulcan ideal mildly interesting.

Nimoy is as great as always. Spock is much more open to his emotions in his old age. Displays restrained anger at Picard's prescence. Very insecure over whether his father loved him. Quickly develops respect for Picard, comparing him favourably to Kirk. There's something spiteful and wounded about the way he compares him to Sarek. Glad that he's kept the balance between logic and emotion. The facial acting is brilliant, especially during his conversation with Data. Can easily read that he does, in fact, have regrets. The final scene with him quivering and holding back tears is beautiful.

Sela sneaks in and is a very welcome prescence. Quite like that she has respect for Data. It really cant be overstated just how comfortable Crosby is with this role. Shes able to completely dominate a scene, with her speech writing being a particular highlight. Shame she completely humiliated herself by the end.

I've found the script for these two episodes to be really good. Every line has a sort of flow to it. The bar is a cool place filled with weird and wonderful aliens. A lot of side characters across these two episodes. None deserve their own paragraph, but they were all played to perfection. Nothing much else to say here.

So, I was almost right. Unification does refer to both Spock's internal battle and his desire to reconcile with his father. What I especially love about how Spock is portrayed here, though, is that he isn't given absolute reverence, like you'd expect from a TOS star who came back. Instead, he's allowed to be an actual character: one who can be argued with and who's even a little wrong at times. Actually, a lot of this episode kind of undercuts how Spock was used in TOS and the scene with Data is a pretty brilliant showcase of this. Spock and Data have different interpretations of who Picard is, but both manage to be accurate descriptors that complement each other. Equally, a shallow look at the show would have Data looking like little more than TNG's Spock, yet their discussion about humanity and the Vulcan ideal show that they are actually very different people. Even the Romulans have regained a bit more of the dignity they had in TOS.

My slightly dilapidated mind is doing me no favours in properly appreciating this episode, but it's definitely the better of the two parts and a really strong story besides.

Tomorrow's A Matter of Time.

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splodeymissile
02/27/23 5:30:09 PM
#95:


Episode 9: A Matter of Time

One for the history books.

Picard's annoyance at people stamping on his authority never gets old. More than a little bit thrilled to have a time traveller aboard, though his patience quickly wears thin. I love his angry shut down of the next Hitler argument.

Riker's visibly worried about climate change. Tries to get some answers. Incredibly irritated and suspicious over Rasmussen's cageyness.

La Forge continues to be a little snarky. Wants to cheat at poker. Annoyed by Rasmussen's incessant waffling.

Worf's new casual attitude is still throwing me a bit. The words "that's odd" would never have been spoken by his past self. Questionnaires don't appeal to him. Takes the insult really well.

Crusher's curious, too. Gets on with Rasmussen like a house on fire. Cheerfully gets out of his awful flirting attempt.

Troi's a little nonplussed by Rasmussen. Only distrusts him more after his pathetic go at empathising with her.

Data helpfully outlines some probabilities. Uncomfortable as sin when hes getting gawped at. Good taste in music.

Rasmussen is as mad as time travelers are expected to be. Completely geeking out about the place. Treats everyone like an object, especially Data, who he's a bit too happy to poke and prod. Smarmy and arrogant, but has a Qish vibe to him that makes him far more entertaining than annoying. Has an impish Jim Carrey feel to him as well, especially when he's stealing and otherwise acting suspicious. Like his perspective on history. Stealing Riker's chair is a hilarious dick move. He has this confident social awkwardness about him, where he's aware that he can't even pretend to act like a socially functional human being, but has flatly given up on trying and revels in being an uncomfortable irritant. Making him something of a con man from the past is an interesting wrinkle, though a part of me wonders if its a bit too complex a backstory for the short time it's revealed in.

Quite like the way the camera follows Rasmussen about as he examines the place. The way he's held in certain group shots as an overbearing prescence who's a bit too large for the frame is brilliant. He's a scruffy thing that would not leave. The music scene in Data's quarters is a fun, if standard, comedy bit. The camera really likes showing him stealing things. The sequence of saving the planet has many truly beautiful VFX shots. The interior of the time pod has some nice, understated psychedelia. Lot of reasonably subtle hints of how much of a farce Rasmussen is, which contrasts nicely with how loud and gregarious he is, to the point you'd be forgiven for missing them on first viewing.

For all that he's a con, I did find Rasmussen's comment about history meaning different things to different people interesting. Because this is a perfectly ordinary day for the Enterprise crew, to the point that they literally delay the climate change plot because a temporal distortion is more interesting. Yet Rasmussen's prescence instantly makes this scenario seem far more momentous and even gets Picard to, once again, weigh up the prime directive against the greater good. Which it should be, as to the people of Penthara, this is potentially an extinction event. Even then, though, the central focus of much of the first half of the episode is still on Rasmussen. So, we've got a very important, but sort of routine and almost boring (in terms of it being what the crew usually do, not in terms of production quality) story being buried by a con man whose only interested in history to stroke his own vanity. He's a wannabe great man of history who could thrive in literally any future era he encounters, but desperately wants to be remembered in his own and sabotages himself through his greed, eventually becoming just another displaced relic. Pretty decent microcosm of how the real history of cultures is displaced in certain schools of historical thought by a focus only on specific individuals within that society. Luckily, Picard and the rest (including the audience) are moved to give the potentially dying planet the due severity it merits because of this.

A part of me does wonder if this basic idea could still be presented just as well if Rasmussen were more legit, though.

Pretty good time travel story that went in an interesting direction.

Breaking New Ground tomorrow.

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Smiffwilm
02/27/23 5:35:43 PM
#96:


splodeymissile posted...
Has an impish Jim Carrey feel to him

I've literally thought this since day 1 of seeing the episode lol.

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TheOtherMike
02/27/23 5:41:26 PM
#97:


Random funfact: the character of Rasmussen was written for Robin Williams but he was tied up with filming Hook when it came time to shoot the episode.

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Medussa
02/27/23 5:41:55 PM
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one of my favorite episodes. <3 me some Matt Frewer.

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Questionmarktarius
02/27/23 5:49:55 PM
#99:


Medussa posted...
<3 me some Matt Frewer.
the guy's acting career basically started with Monty Python.
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McMarbles
02/27/23 6:30:31 PM
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Funny you should say he reminds you of Jim Carrey; Matt played Stanley Ipkiss in the cartoon version of The Mask.

He was also 80s icon Max Headroom.

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02/28/23 10:13:25 AM
#101:


Episode 10: New Ground

Not a couple of characters I expected to see again.

Picard finds Worf's new parenting troubles fairly amusing.

Riker has to save a planet. Mortified when Worf's son is in danger.

La Forge is geeking out, but seems to be the only one. Encouraging towards the doctor.

Worf's excitement can be charitably described as understated. His character development is still showing, as he is more obviously and comfortably happy in seeing his family. It's quite sweet seeing him give fond smiles as his mother rattles off some anecdotes from his childhood. Unfortunately, I still do not care for the stilted interaction between him and Alexander. The problem might well be a simple bias on my part, but I've never had much sympathy for men who are insecure over fatherhood and his reluctance to seriously try, to the point that Troi had to prompt him to spend some time with his son doesn't do him any favours. The guilty look when it dawned on him that he doesn't even know his son's birthday is good, even if I still don't care for the context.

Telling him the story of Kahless and Morath is a pretty good moment. Quite liked his amusement at some of Alexander's antics. His honesty during the therapy session is quite beautiful.

Crusher makes her voice heard.

Troi is in full interference mode. Doesn't reckon much to Worf's parenting style. Always a delight to see her do proper counselling work.

Data must be developing a sense of sarcasm, as his facial expressions alone betray that he thinks La Forge is overhyping this stuff. Then, he figures out that it's 450% more efficient and is quite gobsmacked.

Rozhenko is fun to have back. Kyle is perfectly decent. Alexander himself leaves no real impression on me.

It is very much going through the standard list of tropes for this story, including an awkward conversation in the corridor and a very distant field trip. The soliton wave is quite fascinating, like an incomplete object from a video game. Cool idea to only have Worf and Troi in the same shot when he starts to open up about K'Ehleyr. Another trope im not too thrilled about is having the little brat suddenly be in danger due to their own stupidity, but it leads to a decent bonding moment, so, its not too bad.

And that's kind of it, isn't it? Men learning to be dads isn't a theme I can really add anything to. It's so well worn that I can't help but want almost literally anything else, but it's a perfectly functional episode with some genuinely good moments. Harmless and occasionally fun.

The problem with an increase in overall quality season by season is that perfectly decent fare like this will probably find itself towards the bottom of my rankings through no fault of its own, other than being a little unambitious. Only real issue, beyond being very tropey, is that Alexander is a bit of a nothing character.

No good comes from Hero Worship, but perhaps the next episode will change that.

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