Current Events > I regret to inform you that the liberal media is at it again

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https://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1617152049136939008

Oh no! Not children feeling safe at school! The horror!

Tha libs

That sounds like a horrible and chaotic policy for schools in the long run. What a mess to manage for the faculty lmao

Gotta love the news trying to remain objective over kids fearing violence from their own families and communities and parents upset that they can't control every facet of their kids lives.

God forbid children should feel safe at school.

Next you'll suggest school lunch debt is barbaric!

I like how Republicans concern troll about the lack of trust and honesty in a parent-child relationship. They know the result of these secrets being revealed is children being punished, shamed, physically assaulted, and possibly disowned by the parents. A child isn't keeping these secrets from a parent they feel safe around.

Because once again, they don't view being LGBTQ as just a choice, but as a terrible choice like drugs or crime or bullying, that could only be the result of some external influence. They don't want to get to know their kids. They want to recondition them to think exactly like them, and discard them if they fail.

anyone who posted so far is a parent?

ROOTFayth posted...

anyone who posted so far is a parent?

Children have a right to be safe at school and parents should be good parents if they don't want children to fear them so much that they hide their true identity at home.

The phrase "gender identity ideology" is especially funny (read: concerning and depressing) when these people dress their kids in clothes that say stuff like "lady's man" or "princess"

It's only an "ideology" when it strays from traditional gender norms
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/7/AAVkBcAAEHP7.jpg

hockeybub89 posted...

Children have a right to be safe at school and parents should be good parents if they don't want children to fear them so much that they hide their true identity at home.

yes they should be safe at school and parents should be good parents, are you a parent though?

ROOTFayth posted...

yes they should be safe at school and parents should be good parents, are you a parent though?

I am

emblem-man posted...

I am

As am I

I just want to say that kids should feel safe obviously but are generally incredibly confused about all this shit and labeling that the LGBTQ++ community has came up with over time, I have a little girl who is turning 12 next month and she has dealt with a LOT of anxiety regarding her sexual orientation going back and forth and crying about it

and I just sit there thinking why is this happening, why are you even thinking about that in elementary school? just play with your friends and be who you are, no need to label any of this shit

anyway maybe it would have happened regardless because she is just very anxious in general given my son doesn't seem to give a crap about any of all that (he's a year younger)

ROOTFayth posted...

and I just sit there thinking why is this happening, why are you even thinking about that in elementary school?

11 year olds are experiencing puberty, dude

Antifar posted...

11 year olds are experiencing puberty, dude

it started when she was 9 yrs old

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thank you for your virgin ass contribution mate

ROOTFayth posted...

yes they should be safe at school and parents should be good parents, are you a parent though?

No and that clearly is a good thing since it allows me to value the needs of the children.

hockeybub89 posted...

No and that clearly is a good thing since it allows me to value the needs of the children.

that's dunning kruger right there buddy, no offense but it's literally what it is

ROOTFayth posted...

it started when she was 9 yrs old

Some 9 year olds hit puberty! Especially girls, for whom it typically happens earlier.

It's funny how there aren't even arguments against this, just the lamest ad hominems imaginable. The Emperor truly has no clothes!

ROOTFayth posted...

I just want to say that kids should feel safe obviously but are generally incredibly confused about all this shit and labeling that the LGBTQ++ community has came up with over time, I have a little girl who is turning 12 next month and she has dealt with a LOT of anxiety regarding her sexual orientation going back and forth and crying about it

and I just sit there thinking why is this happening, why are you even thinking about that in elementary school? just play with your friends and be who you are, no need to label any of this shit

anyway maybe it would have happened regardless because she is just very anxious in general given my son doesn't seem to give a crap about any of all that (he's a year younger)

And I'm sympathetic that you feel confused and worried about your kid, but I'm skeptical "all this labeling" can or should be blamed on lbtq. Like another poster said, gender identity labeling and focus has always existed. It's just that now, additional ideas about it exist. Additional ideas that the parents aren't comfortable with, and I find it hard to want to pin the blame on LGBTQ groups.

I think there are probably people that actually explain gender identity in a bad and confusing way that doesn't help the conversation, but again, that shouldn't be blamed on LGBTQ in general.

ROOTFayth posted...

I just want to say that kids should feel safe obviously but are generally incredibly confused about all this shit and labeling that the LGBTQ++ community has came up with over time, I have a little girl who is turning 12 next month and she has dealt with a LOT of anxiety regarding her sexual orientation going back and forth and crying about it

and I just sit there thinking why is this happening, why are you even thinking about that in elementary school? just play with your friends and be who you are, no need to label any of this shit

anyway maybe it would have happened regardless because she is just very anxious in general given my son doesn't seem to give a crap about any of all that (he's a year younger)

Yet parents are never nervous when their child has a crush on an opposite sex student or start throwing around "boyfriend/girlfriend" or "straight". Only when they are "abnormal"

Honestly I couldn't give a damn what a parent's concerns are. They should probably earn their child's trust if they aren't being given this information willingly. If parents don't want teachers involved, then that should only include not compelling the teachers to rat out scared children to their terrifying parents.

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gaslighting isn't gonna work

extreme anxiety isn't normal, she's seeing and talking to a professional because of it

emblem-man posted...

And I'm sympathetic that you feel confused and worried about your kid, but I'm skeptical "all this labeling" can or should be blamed on lbtq. Like another poster said, gender identity labeling and focus has always existed. It's just that now, additional ideas about it exist. Additional ideas that the parents aren't comfortable with, and I find it hard to want to pin the blame on LGBTQ groups.

I think there are probably people that actually explain gender identity in a bad and confusing way that doesn't help the conversation, but again, that shouldn't be blamed on LGBTQ in general.

I mean blaming the community as a whole may be a bit harsh, most LGBTQ people I've talked with actually hate those labels so I guess not everyone is in agreement, I just think it's really confusing for kids, especially those who are prone to anxiety, like the way I see it we should just accept people for who they are and they wear whatever they want to wear but we don't need to label every little differences, because then kids feel like they need to CHOOSE one which... they don't?

ROOTFayth posted...

I mean blaming the community as a whole may be a bit harsh, most LGBTQ people I've talked with actually hate those labels so I guess not everyone is in agreement, I just think it's really confusing for kids, especially those who are prone to anxiety, like the way I see it we should just accept people for who they are and they wear whatever they want to wear but we don't need to label every little differences, because then kids feel like they need to CHOOSE one which... they don't?

As opposed to the actual real queer people you're arguing with and demeaning in this very topic?

It's also literally not our fault society hates us or treats any deviation for cis and hetero out to be bad and negative. Cis society creates that anxiety!

Just gonna add this
https://twitter.com/MC_of_A/status/1617192075795087360

So where's this liberal media?

ROOTFayth posted...

I mean blaming the community as a whole may be a bit harsh, most LGBTQ people I've talked with actually hate those labels so I guess not everyone is in agreement, I just think it's really confusing for kids, especially those who are prone to anxiety, like the way I see it we should just accept people for who they are and they wear whatever they want to wear but we don't need to label every little differences, because then kids feel like they need to CHOOSE one which... they don't?

If the issue was just labeling, I'd agree that not every identity requires a specific label. But I don't think that's actually what many of these people have an issue with. They actually do have an issue with who they like and what they wear

He's suspended, so

Intro2Logic posted...

Just gonna add this
https://twitter.com/MC_of_A/status/1617192075795087360

"People are telling me I have to support my child and it's like... what about my feelings?"

Antifar posted...

He's suspended, so

should be a ban

Zeeak4444 posted...

should be a ban

Well, he's been back for a week after almost a year, so... maybe? I'm sure he has other accounts, I just can't figure out which ones.

https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1617214241148370952
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1617231852942643205

Two good Twitter threads on this. Basically, stoking anti-trans panic is a very intentional choice being made by the New York Times and, naturally, deeply irresponsible. LOL the article literally platforms someone who called LGBTQ+ people cockroaches which, according to Alejandra Caraballo, the reporter who wrote it was aware of, it's juts straight-up fascism all the way through.

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I hate that he was fishing for a gotcha over people he presumes only disagree with him because they aren't parents.

I'm hoping the world my daughter grows up in encourages questioning aspects of yourself I wasnt allowed to question without fear of ridicule growing up. Acting like queer people didn't experience extreme anxiety over their identities and are now the ones at fault for it is fucking gross.

https://twitter.com/ZJemptv/status/1617160388998479877
Here's another great Twitter thread about the anti-trans group that the NYT's repeatedly platforms in these articles - Genspect.

TL;DR - Genspect sees transgender identities as an illness akin to alcohol addiction that should be treated the same way. I am a social contagion to be eradicated to them.

ROOTFayth posted...

generally incredibly confused about all this shit and labeling that the LGBTQ++ community has came up with over time

And there it is.

EDIT: Oh, he's suspended. That's what I get for leaving this topic up in a separate tab for hours. lol

ROOTFayth posted...

anyone who posted so far is a parent?

Parent here, I have no problem with what those schools are doing.

Students have the right to feel safe and accepted at school, even if tragically and quite awfully, they are unable to feel that way at home.

Oh they not going to see this, theyre suspended

Gwynevere posted...

I hate that he was fishing for a gotcha over people he presumes only disagree with him because they aren't parents.

I'm hoping the world my daughter grows up in encourages questioning aspects of yourself I wasnt allowed to question without fear of ridicule growing up. Acting like queer people didn't experience extreme anxiety over their identities and are now the ones at fault for it is fucking gross.

"I'm a shit parent with shit views but if you don't have kids your views are irrelevant" is definitely quite the response.

you don't have to be a parent to remember what it was like to have shitty ones.

Anyone here actually believe ROOT has children, let alone ever been on a date?

Will_VIIII posted...

Anyone here actually believe ROOT has children, let alone ever been on a date?

He's made quite a few claims about himself, it's hard to keep them all straight