Current Events > Utah bans gender affirming care for people under 18.

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CyricZ
01/28/23 5:07:24 PM
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https://www.axios.com/2023/01/28/utah-transgender-health-care-ban

No puberty blockers and no hormone treatment. This will likely be challenged in court.

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VampireCoyote
01/28/23 5:08:13 PM
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Utah wants more trans kids to commit suicide

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Ruvan22
01/28/23 9:03:26 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Utah wants more trans kids to commit suicide

They had that huge spate of homosexual youth suicide back in the mid 2000s so I'm not surprised...
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Flauros
01/28/23 9:05:42 PM
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Whats the stance of the Mormon church on such issues?

I figure they would have a big part to play in anything that goes on in Utah

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StormSignal
01/28/23 9:13:28 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Utah


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hockeybub89
01/28/23 9:46:05 PM
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What does Utah actually contribute to anything?

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Medussa
01/28/23 9:47:05 PM
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Institutionalized child abuse. Fucking enraging.

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 9:49:04 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
What does Utah actually contribute to anything?
The northwest corner of this thing:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/9/AAEhCpAAEIhh.jpg

Also asstons of land-speed records in the salt flats.
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VampireCoyote
01/28/23 9:50:19 PM
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what are some Utah things I can boycott

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hockeybub89
01/28/23 9:54:52 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
what are some Utah things I can boycott
Magic underwear
Utah Jazz
Land speed records

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 9:54:56 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
what are some Utah things I can boycott
Salt
Ritual underwear
The Osmonds

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gunplagirl
01/28/23 10:01:40 PM
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This isn't even the only state that's considering it right now and it'll pass in several other states this session. I hate it.

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 10:02:48 PM
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I'm assuming Missouri already did this about five years ago, because Misery.
At least weed is legal here now.
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gunplagirl
01/28/23 10:09:20 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
I'm assuming Missouri already did this about five years ago, because Misery.
At least weed is legal here now.
Nah, Utah is officially the first.

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 10:10:46 PM
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...before Florida?
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gunplagirl
01/28/23 10:12:51 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
...before Florida?
Surprisingly yes but Florida's governor also wants to have schools and other organizations send them lists of every transgender person, so.

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hockeybub89
01/28/23 10:15:19 PM
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Utah's government is illegitimate and should be ignored.

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Medussa
01/28/23 10:18:41 PM
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also, didn't this same governor refuse to sign a different anti trans bill just a year or two ago?

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DarkBuster22904
01/28/23 10:19:40 PM
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Flauros posted...
Whats the stance of the Mormon church on such issues?
Vehement opposition to trans people in general. This IS the Mormon church's stance on the issue. They literally control that state; if a politician isn't Mormon, they need Mormon support to even have a prayer of getting elected.

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ElatedVenusaur
01/28/23 10:21:47 PM
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Won't be long before they start banning it for everyone.

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gunplagirl
01/28/23 10:22:31 PM
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Medussa posted...
also, didn't this same governor refuse to sign a different anti trans bill just a year or two ago?
Last year, the sports ban because the people passing it could only find like 1 whole transgender athlete in the entire state.

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Medussa
01/28/23 10:23:04 PM
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thanks.

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 10:23:56 PM
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Missouri is looking to fuck over trans highschool athletes, and the mayor of Kansas City pointed out that there's five of them.
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gunplagirl
01/28/23 10:33:05 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Missouri is looking to fuck over trans highschool athletes, and the mayor of Kansas City pointed out that there's five of them.
SB278 is so poorly defined that it makes it illegal for any transgender person to be in public. Has a fine of no less than $1000 and up to 6 months in jail. West Virginia I believe. There's just too many bills for me to remember them all. We've got more this year than 2017-2020 combined. More this year in January than all of last year.

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TheOtherMike
01/28/23 10:35:09 PM
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Reminder that we aren't allowed to call the Republican Party what it is on this website.

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 10:35:41 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
SB278
Yeah... I need the state for that (west virginia?) All get from that is a California bull from two years ago.
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gunplagirl
01/28/23 10:54:05 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Yeah... I need the state for that (west virginia?) All get from that is a California bull from two years ago.
https://twitter.com/VandomVA/status/1616120276944838
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BoyOfBattle
01/28/23 11:02:48 PM
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actually there's an argument to be made that children shouldnt be given hormone treatments / puberty blockers because of the debilitating, permanent health issues that could arise

at least this way, legal adults can still get treatment while they're still young (18 yo).


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01/28/23 11:04:22 PM
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BoyOfBattle posted...
actually there's an argument to be made that children shouldnt be given hormone treatments / puberty blockers because of the debilitating, permanent health issues that could arise

at least this way, legal adults can still get treatment while they're still young (18 yo).

Puberty blockers seem to be required when you go through puberty. Not at 18.

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Questionmarktarius
01/28/23 11:06:23 PM
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Puberty sucks. I'd be fine with blocking it for everyone.
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Gwynevere
01/28/23 11:06:23 PM
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If the state denies them care, they'll turn to DIY HRT. It's becoming more popular and there's many people willing to subvert the system to help them get it

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gunplagirl
01/28/23 11:11:52 PM
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BoyOfBattle posted...
actually there's an argument to be made that children shouldnt be given hormone treatments / puberty blockers because of the debilitating, permanent health issues that could arise

at least this way, legal adults can still get treatment while they're still young (18 yo).
No, there's no reason to prevent trans people from having medical care to affirm their gender. Most of those "debilitating permanent" effects are literally ones cis people get from puberty. But if a trans person goes through the wrong puberty by being denied blockers, then they WILL suffer their entire life for it.

All these bans do is harm trans kids. It doesn't protect anyone.

And the people passing these bills and advocates for them have started to finally admit openly their end goal is a 100% ban on any gender medical care.

Don't give them an inch.

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gunplagirl
01/28/23 11:57:04 PM
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https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1619406653237104641?t=rfuQEP4JQI-Jl5VYZ9JztQ&s=19

Seems the governor signed it into law.

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Gwynevere
01/29/23 12:26:48 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1619406653237104641?t=rfuQEP4JQI-Jl5VYZ9JztQ&s=19

Seems the governor signed it into law.
Grim shit. Only gonna get worse before it (hopefully) gets better.

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gunplagirl
01/29/23 12:33:46 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Grim shit. Only gonna get worse before it (hopefully) gets better.
We've got plenty of mainstream politicians already referring to "the transgender question".

You know, like the way Germany referred to Jewish people before they began the final solution.

And seeing as we're already at the point where states are considering passing laws outright banning us from public, we're basically a presidential cycle or two tops from us at least being rounded up as "political/ social enemies" in some states.

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TheGoldenEel
01/29/23 12:36:18 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
https://twitter.com/VandomVA/status/1616120276944838
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For future reference you can delete everything from the ? on when sharing a tweet

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gunplagirl
01/29/23 12:37:37 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
For future reference you can delete everything from the ? on when sharing a tweet
Oh that would help to know. Thank you.

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indica
01/29/23 12:42:35 PM
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BoyOfBattle posted...
actually there's an argument to be made that children shouldnt be given hormone treatments / puberty blockers because of the debilitating, permanent health issues that could arise

at least this way, legal adults can still get treatment while they're still young (18 yo).
Seems like that's a discussion between a person and their medically qualified health care povider and not a governemnt body that has zero medical qualifications...

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GranAures
01/29/23 12:49:45 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
No, there's no reason to prevent trans people from having medical care to affirm their gender. Most of those "debilitating permanent" effects are literally ones cis people get from puberty. But if a trans person goes through the wrong puberty by being denied blockers, then they WILL suffer their entire life for it.

All these bans do is harm trans kids. It doesn't protect anyone.

And the people passing these bills and advocates for them have started to finally admit openly their end goal is a 100% ban on any gender medical care.

Don't give them an inch.
The "funny" thing is:
Utah isn't even banning these treatments across the board and being consistent. They are purely banning it for trans youth. Sally can still get blockers if she starts punerty early but Samantha can't because she was born Samuel.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/80327889/971162821

Links to the bill in there as well as were the ban only targets the intended group.

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