Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 401: Haley's Vomit

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SirChris
02/15/23 7:11:21 AM
#402:


Corrik7 posted...
The thing is... why though? What's the point of being cruel? Like, I don't care if the person was a murderer, a saint, a whatever. They are dead now. It is somebody's somebody... whether father, child, etc. Let them get their closure. If you hated the person or disliked them or whatever, you don't have to mourn them or be apart of their whatever service.

Cruelty is for the living. To make an example of the dead.

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Peace___Frog
02/15/23 7:19:34 AM
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The point is to make trans people feel as unsafe as possible. Terrorize them so much that they're afraid to show themselves in public. Make society so weirded out by them that they commit suicide.

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HanOfTheNekos
02/15/23 8:34:36 AM
#404:


Hate can be taught.

And when someone accepts the hate they have been taught is real, they wish to proselytize as well.

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LightningStrikes
02/15/23 9:10:50 AM
#405:


I mean, hate is basically only ever taught.

Anyway, there really are a few key points from this case that should be brought up in this topic for the majority of you from the US:

-The killing (of a 16 year old) was a targeted attack by two other teenagers following a long transphobic bullying campaign.

-The police gave the usual no evidence of hate crime yet but all avenues are open, which a lot of the media used to say not a hate crime.

-Unsurprisingly, the police are now investigating it as a potential hate crime.

-Upon finding out she was transgender, the Daily Mail (backed Hitler in the 30s) *contacted her optician* to get her deadname which they then published. The Times not only also published that but removed all reference to her as a girl, though they later reverted these changes.

-Currently in the UK you need to be 18 to get a GRC and it takes two years, so she didnt have one. This means that her death certificate will list her as male. There is a campaign to grant her a posthumous GRC but who knows if it will work.

My only hope is that this shocks people into reconsidering how the media and politicians treat trans people. Unfortunately given how the right wing press is reacting to the announcement of Nicola Sturgeons resignation (banging on about trans people even though it had nothing to do with trans issues) I am no longer very hopeful of that.

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Mr_Lasastryke
02/15/23 9:20:44 AM
#406:


LightningStrikes posted...
the Daily Mail (backed Hitler in the 30s) *contacted her optician* to get her deadname which they then published.

where's full throttle when you need him

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AriaOfBolo
02/15/23 9:32:14 AM
#407:


Corrik7 posted...
What's the point of being cruel?

To cause pain and fear, for whatever reason somebody has decided that is desirable.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/15/23 12:27:06 PM
#408:


https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1625667481653112832?s=19

He's just Trump.

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masterplum
02/15/23 1:34:55 PM
#409:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1625667481653112832?s=19

He's just Trump.

Well you can't pay 40 billion dollars for your own platform and have people NOT listen to you

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FFDragon
02/15/23 1:37:38 PM
#410:


Die faster twitter this is already boring

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Grimlyn
02/15/23 2:27:10 PM
#411:


LightningStrikes posted...
-The police gave the usual no evidence of hate crime yet but all avenues are open, which a lot of the media used to say not a hate crime.
the wild part was that news sources weren't even saying she was trans, there were plenty of reports just saying young girl murdered and so there were folks even asking where people are getting their information that she's trans since the only reference being made to that was the premature dismissal of a hate crime and the reader's left to seek out why it would even be one

then of course GCs online running with that dismissal as you say, meanwhile they go on to disrespect her gender identity by omission pretending they give a single shit and doing the gun control "you're politicizing a tragedy!" bit

I remember during early Chappelle discourse there where people wondering how gender neutral language can be malicious and this case has been an absolutely glaring example as all of sudden countless transphobes accept the use of gender neutral language they refute, but only now to blatantly avoid respecting a dead teen trans girl's identity even while they're trying to look less hateful than they are but they can't even stomach it enough to do that

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MoogleKupo141
02/15/23 6:33:49 PM
#412:


https://twitter.com/_rebeccaclewis/status/1625951884421828626?s=46&t=8mXbh3-3kiKklQO7OjFoAA

lol good job hochul

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Thorn
02/15/23 9:26:48 PM
#413:


Glad to see that embarrassing episode over with.

At least the Dem State Senators were united in sinking this even if Hochul, the machine, and even NY dems in national dem leadership (like Jeffries) had the weirdest obsession and loyalty to him. There were 3 declared LaSalle supporters among Dems. 2 weren't even there for this vote and the remaining one was the only other Dem defector (joined by all the GOP.)

As for the vote, after LaSalle failed in the Senate Judiciary committee the Democrats considered the nomination dead. Hochul threatened to sue them saying they were required to give him a vote of the full Senate. Before she could file that suit, the Senate GOP did so for her.

Hochul finally released a statement giving up after getting blown out here but still shilled for LaSalle by saying this vote wasn't really a vote about LaSalle's qualifications.

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ChaosTonyV4
02/15/23 10:42:55 PM
#414:


Absolutely bizarre intentional L

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KamikazePotato
02/16/23 1:26:19 AM
#415:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/6/AAdkcxAAEJ1s.jpg

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RaidenGarai
02/16/23 6:08:07 AM
#416:


We need more people to work harder for less pay so we can make more money! Think about the ultra wealthy!


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Peace___Frog
02/16/23 8:31:20 AM
#417:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/09/missouri-rejects-ban-children-carrying-guns-in-public

The proposal to ban children from carrying guns without adult supervision in public failed by a 104-39 vote. Only one Republican voted in support.

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PerfectChaosZ
02/16/23 8:35:30 AM
#418:


Next theyll start declaring everybody kids!
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Peace___Frog
02/16/23 9:13:23 AM
#419:


I think the thing that dumbfounds me the most is it's not even to say that kids can never have guns. They just need adult supervision, which can be their parents.

I know that the gun lobby has been unreasonable for decades, but holy fuck.

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Dancedreamer
02/16/23 10:26:36 AM
#420:


At this rate, by 2062 it'll be illegal for a toddler to be in public without an AR-15.

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AriaOfBolo
02/16/23 10:52:34 AM
#421:


we just need good toddlers with guns to solve the gun violence problem

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swordz9
02/16/23 11:14:55 AM
#422:


What we really need to do is put guns into the hands of the fetus so it can defend itself from being aborted
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Dancedreamer
02/16/23 11:23:40 AM
#423:


swordz9 posted...
What we really need to do is put guns into the hands of the fetus so it can defend itself from being aborted

Please don't give them ideas.

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PrinceKaro
02/16/23 11:33:49 AM
#424:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk

I am suddenly reminded of this

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Suprak_the_Stud
02/16/23 2:02:05 PM
#425:


An oldie but a goodie.

No clue how Matt Gaetz somehow comes off as a non-lunatic.

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Not_an_Owl
02/16/23 2:48:14 PM
#426:


Peace___Frog posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/09/missouri-rejects-ban-children-carrying-guns-in-public
While it may be intuitive that a 14-year-old has no legitimate purpose, it doesnt actually mean that theyre going to harm someone. We dont know that yet, said Tony Lovasco, a Republican from the St Louis suburb of OFallon.

If someone is carrying a gun, it is reasonable to assume they intend to use it to shoot something. This is because guns have no purpose other than shooting things.

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Peace___Frog
02/16/23 2:50:17 PM
#427:


If you carry a sledgehammer into a museum, it's presumptive and cruel to think that you may be interested in breaking the exhibits. Obviously.

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Peace___Frog
02/16/23 3:55:19 PM
#428:


Other gross news at the state level:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/16/virginia-governor-glenn-youngkin-extreme-bill-police-menstrual-histories

A bill passed in the Democratic-led state senate, and supported by half the chambers Republicans, would have banned search warrants for menstrual data stored in tracking apps on mobile phones or other electronic devices.
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Youngkin, who has pushed for a 15-week abortion ban to mirror similar measures in several Republican-controlled states, essentially killed the bill through a procedural move in a subcommittee of the Republican-controlled House.

The freedom for children to carry guns, but not the freedom for adults to not share results of their bodily functions with the government.

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Peace___Frog
02/16/23 11:10:02 PM
#429:


Another train derailment with hazardous chemicals, this time outside of Detroit. Same railroad company as east Palestine.

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MoogleKupo141
02/16/23 11:15:05 PM
#430:


did something suddenly change with the trains or the tracks or something

like how did we go from none of this to two of this in such a short time period

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masterplum
02/16/23 11:17:27 PM
#431:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
did something suddenly change with the trains or the tracks or something

like how did we go from none of this to two of this in such a short time period

I am curious if the second train actually is impactful at all or if people are just sensitive to train derailments

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Kenri
02/16/23 11:45:09 PM
#432:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
did something suddenly change with the trains or the tracks or something
I've seen some people mention that Trump rolled back regulations on train maintenance during his presidency

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Thorn
02/17/23 3:15:38 AM
#433:


https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1626383540022640641
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1626384607917625345
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1626385304465596422

America's most watched cable "news" network everyone.

Murdoch telling the CEO to focus on winning the Georgia Senate for Republicans "any way we can" and getting into batshit election fraud theories with their source being an email from someone who thought they were a ghost and that Scalia was murdered in a "human hunting expedition"

More in the thread as well, like Tucker calling Trump a "demonic force" who could "destroy" him if he stepped out of line. As well as Fox calling AZ ruining their "golden goose."

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Kenri
02/17/23 3:48:43 AM
#434:


being a republican sounds so fucking rad i wish i lived in a world where ghosts are real and conservatives justices are hunted for sport

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AriaOfBolo
02/17/23 7:08:31 AM
#435:


Kenri posted...
I've seen some people mention that Trump rolled back regulations on train maintenance during his presidency

I've also seen insinuations that Buttigieg doesn't super care

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Maniac64
02/17/23 8:26:18 AM
#436:


Thorn posted...
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1626383540022640641
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1626384607917625345
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1626385304465596422

America's most watched cable "news" network everyone.

Murdoch telling the CEO to focus on winning the Georgia Senate for Republicans "any way we can" and getting into batshit election fraud theories with their source being an email from someone who thought they were a ghost and that Scalia was murdered in a "human hunting expedition"
Fair and balanced

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masterplum
02/17/23 8:28:19 AM
#437:


I have made the potentially regrettable decision of sending that story to my crazy ex wife due to the fact that she kept sending me all that election fraud stuff at the time.

it was a bad decision but I couldnt help it

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Seanchan
02/18/23 6:41:28 PM
#438:


Jimmy Carter is on home hospice care. Sounds like he's not long for this world.

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NFUN
02/18/23 6:48:10 PM
#439:


noooo there's only a few hundred guinea worms left :(

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Samurai7
02/18/23 8:02:48 PM
#440:


masterplum posted...
I have made the potentially regrettable decision of sending that story to my crazy ex wife due to the fact that she kept sending me all that election fraud stuff at the time.

it was a bad decision but I couldnt help it

I want to know how this went because my gut reaction is to go do the same thing to my father in law

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Maniac64
02/18/23 8:04:57 PM
#441:


I'm going to guess anger and denial

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masterplum
02/18/23 8:32:14 PM
#442:


Samurai7 posted...
I want to know how this went because my gut reaction is to go do the same thing to my father in law
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/1/AANz_VAAEMmL.jpg

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TheRock1525
02/18/23 8:34:38 PM
#443:


Surprisingly tame.

Stupid, but tame.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/18/23 8:36:52 PM
#444:


Really no easier way to know you should stop talking to someone than if they watched 2000 Mules.

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masterplum
02/18/23 9:16:57 PM
#445:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Really no easier way to know you should stop talking to someone than if they watched 2000 Mules.

Would be great to not share custody! Dont really have a choice!

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_Blur_
02/19/23 12:13:24 AM
#446:


Ooooooof

My condolences, plum

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Mr_Lasastryke
02/19/23 6:10:44 AM
#447:


i had no idea there was a documentary about the election fraud bullshit.

i also didn't know it made $1.5 million at the box office.

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Jakyl25
02/19/23 8:58:03 AM
#448:


Literally I know there was fraud because I watched Biden get more votes LIVE!

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Dancedreamer
02/19/23 9:16:54 AM
#449:


Whenever someone tells me "There was voter fraud!" I just tell them "Yeah, in favor of Trump." Not even wrong, because most of the cases of voter fraud have been found to be done by... Republicans.

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RaidenGarai
02/19/23 10:31:53 AM
#450:


But thats not voter fraud! That was antifa! They had to do it to counteract all the obvious fraud by the dems that nobody can find real evidence of! Hunter Bidens laptop! Hilarys emails!

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Maniac64
02/19/23 12:54:36 PM
#451:


RaidenGarai posted...
But thats not voter fraud! That was antifa! They had to do it to counteract all the obvious fraud by the dems that nobody can find real evidence of! Hunter Bidens laptop! Hilarys emails!
Haven't you seen 2000 mules?! There was a dude with a dog who paused and chatted with someone before putting in his voter envelope in the box! Clearly he was committing fraud?!! He had a backpack! It must have been full of fraudulent votes!!!

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