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Chaeix 02/14/23 3:27:19 PM #101: |
Lopen posted... The big reason for the GP cost is to narrow down the ability targets and give a drawback to doing so.raiden to mid --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 3:44:02 PM #102: |
Lopen posted... The big reason for the GP cost is to narrow down the ability targets and give a drawback to doing so. The answer is largely that we wanted to see if we could implement a symmetrical answer to paydowns via Bounty Hunters, mostly, instead of just punishing paydowns even harder. Teams that lean top heavy have the natural disadvantage of dealing with abilities less well to begin with and costing more gold at every step of the game. Rather than nerf them further, we felt letting people maintain battle power parity by accepting economic parity (that is, reduce that very significant gold advantage to gain tools to reduce the enemy's power advantage) was worth trying first. It's already an issue that going top-heavy is actually very hard to make viable due to getting less money, which goes counter to Mercenaries being, hypothetically, a game where you can play with your favorite gaming characters and be valid. We wanted to see if a soft touch of 'abilities are usable much more often and you can pay to throw even more of them out if you want' could balance paydowns first before going straight to harder nerfs. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 3:48:01 PM #103: |
In other words: yes, further nerfs to paydowns are on the table. It's important to get data on how the sweeping systemic changes we've already made affect them first before we go straight to just making the mechanic intrinsically weaker so we don't pollute the data we're going to get from the TR too much. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 3:54:13 PM #104: |
min on just kidding --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dantezoid 02/14/23 3:54:17 PM #105: |
FFDragon posted... I'd go as far as to say that without paydowns the 1/2 matches would be the most fun ones. easily --- Boring and mundane signature informing you I'm on a Droid Now with more bold! Less italics due to bold. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/14/23 4:01:10 PM #106: |
Spitballing some random ideas I'd suggest if what you have doesn't fit. Tier shift to 5-6 3-4 1-2 Paydowns = +2 roster slots per upkeep above. So 3s = 3 roster slots in low. 4s = 5 roster slots in low. 5+ don't get to fight in low. 5s = 3 roster slots in mid. 6s = 5 roster slots in mid. 7+ don't get to fight in mid. 7s = 3 roster slots in high. Add loaded merc traits to modify paydown costs (like I don't know "versatile - -1 paydown cost" or "stoic - +1 paydown cost"), or just put it as part of the upkeep/gold block if that's easier. So for example you could have Sagat who is a 3 but has -1 paydown cost, so he only costs 2 slots in a low match. Then on the other hand you could have Leon Kennedy who is a 3-- he is clearly not a pure 4 in terms of value but because guns are so dangerous in low has +1 paydown cost. You could maybe make an Ashley Graham merc that removes Leon's stoic trait if rostered I don't know just ideas! The versatile key word could possibly have some cost to actually use it, possibly. Alternate idea, remove paydowns, have some mechanic to send out your higher upkeep merc to find an unbought low/mid tier merc to roster to be able to fill up rosters-- if you win you start getting loyalty points with the merc and get to buy the merc for cheaper later if you want. If two mercs head out to hire the same merc you have a duel topic between them to see who gets the merc. Ha ha. I don't know. I think there are a lot of things you can do. Sorry, not trying to throw shade about what has and hasn't been considered just like workshopping ideas. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dantezoid 02/14/23 4:10:40 PM #107: |
I do like the idea of ~BOSS FIGHTS~ Where it's a squad of 5 2s vs a random 4 --- Boring and mundane signature informing you I'm on a Droid Now with more bold! Less italics due to bold. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trdl23 02/14/23 4:14:19 PM #108: |
I hope I didn't miss someone else saying it because I'm running on zero sleep, but I think it's notable that we have given many mercs anti-paydown abilities, either to hose paydowns specifically or getting to do their shit for free if the enemy paid down. I don't have much else to contribute with sleep-dep brain so yeah --- E come vivo? Vivo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 02/14/23 4:26:22 PM #109: |
sneaking in here just to say i appreciate the random apparent orange juice reference in the topic title ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 02/14/23 4:31:09 PM #110: |
that's how they getcha (if you're a fellow weeb) --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Stronger than the storms that they've shown you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 02/14/23 4:43:29 PM #111: |
I don't think forcing you to buy an anti-paydown Merc is where it's at, personally. The system itself has always been broken from the rip. Just fix the system. Not throw even more moving parts into it. My view anyway. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 02/14/23 4:46:55 PM #112: |
FFDragon posted... The system itself has always been broken from the rip. Just fix the system. Not throw even more moving parts into it. sir this is mercs --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Stronger than the storms that they've shown you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tirofog 02/14/23 4:49:28 PM #113: |
Dantezoid posted... I do like the idea of ~BOSS FIGHTS~ Where it's a squad of 5 2s vs a random 4 Random.org for this on M4 mercs (rerolling PSs) gets us: Beast Incarnate Brock Lesnar, Tusk, Kain Highwind, Pikachu, Billy and Jimmy Lee vs. Agent 47 ... I'd like to see that, actually. --- I'm just here to post something barely relevant, then fade back into the shadows. It's a tough job, but BKSheikah has to do it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 4:49:52 PM #114: |
AriaOfBolo posted... sir this is mercswait its not wendys? --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/14/23 4:59:45 PM #115: |
Tirofog posted... Beast Incarnate Brock Lesnar, Tusk, Kain Highwind, Pikachu, Billy and Jimmy Lee That match would be legit awesome actually. Definitely not a 47 SOLOS situation (but arguably he could) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mewtwo59 02/14/23 5:02:54 PM #116: |
Kain is there, so I believe 47 finds a way to pull it off. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dante 02/14/23 5:11:21 PM #117: |
yeah if hitman were on a normal hitman level (inc all random innocents), I think he could do work --- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 02/14/23 5:56:02 PM #118: |
Tirofog posted... Beast Incarnate Brock Lesnar, Tusk, Kain Highwind, Pikachu, Billy and Jimmy Lee This is amazing. No notes. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MajinZidane 02/14/23 7:57:31 PM #119: |
Min on Mega Man --- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to Boko United." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MajinZidane 02/14/23 8:02:50 PM #120: |
I Want To Be The One Chippin' In --- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to Boko United." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greengravy294 02/14/23 8:06:34 PM #121: |
I draw a card from my deck! --- https://imgur.com/a/LEqiW https://imgur.com/iXHxhET ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mewtwo59 02/14/23 8:09:18 PM #122: |
Liquid: Beep beep, I'm a jeep --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 02/14/23 8:09:43 PM #123: |
Mario Party Level Lead Mario Party Level doesn't have the same ring to it --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Stronger than the storms that they've shown you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 02/14/23 8:10:25 PM #124: |
(that's Bowser's level select ability btw, it will probably be the volcano almost always) --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Stronger than the storms that they've shown you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greengravy294 02/14/23 8:11:45 PM #125: |
attach darknite to freeman DRAW! a card from my deck! --- https://imgur.com/a/LEqiW https://imgur.com/iXHxhET ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 8:12:48 PM #126: |
Week 0's Peacetime has concluded. Any further mercenary purchases will only allow mercenaries to join battle in week 2. Leaders have been rearranged in declaration order. Bids in the next post. JC ~ Fog Legacy (0-0, 43GP, 12 RI, 3 AP) Battle: Crono, Aigis Support: KO's/Injuries: Recharge: Other: Aria ~ The Town Inside Mercs (0-0, 24GP, 10 RI, 3 AP) Battle: Donkey Kong, Bowser, Mewtwo Support: KO's/Injuries: Recharge: Other: Eddv ~ Here Comes the Hotstepper (0-0, 23GP, 9 RI, 3 AP) Battle: King K. Rool, B.J. Blazkowicz, Samus Aran Support: KO's/Injuries: Recharge: Other: Boko ~ Boko Bombers (0-0, 18GP, 8 RI, 3 AP) Battle: Rika Furude, Kazuma Kiryu, Leon Kennedy, Mega Man Support: KO's/Injuries: Recharge: Other: Mega Man has Chippin' In (1 use) Mewtwo ~ Orange Bears (0-0, 23GP, 8 RI, 3 AP) Battle: Vivi Ornitier, Cloud Strife, Liquid Snake Support: KO's/Injuries: Recharge: Other: Greengravy ~ Hip To Be Square (0-0, 26GP, 7 RI, 3 AP) Battle: Gordon Freeman, Raiden Support: Darknite (Linked to Gordon) KO's/Injuries: Recharge: Other: --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dante 02/14/23 8:12:54 PM #127: |
gordon freeman would be the nerd with a card deck --- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 8:13:51 PM #128: |
Bid List: JC: 17 GP (first place) Aria: 2 GP (second place) Eddv: 1 GP (third place) Boko, Gravy, Mewtwo: 0 GP (joint fourth place. Randomizer breaks tie in Boko>Mewtwo>Gravy order) That is all. Now to proceed with processing orders. --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 8:18:30 PM #129: |
Dark Magician Girl: A random post-rosters enemy mercenary will start at 50% of their maximum health and cannot be healed in any way. Add an additional target for every Dark Magician and Dark Magician #2 in Darknites hand when this card is activated. The same target cannot be selected twice. [Negative Effect] --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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greengravy294 02/14/23 8:22:15 PM #130: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdaBIUKbwr0 --- https://imgur.com/a/LEqiW https://imgur.com/iXHxhET ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Johnbobb 02/14/23 8:37:43 PM #131: |
not a single one of you fuckers bought Kirby? --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 8:38:24 PM #132: |
Johnbobb posted... not a single one of you fuckers bought Kirby?4/week problems --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 8:40:48 PM #133: |
Johnbobb posted... not a single one of you fuckers bought Kirby? People will tell you 4/weeks are weak To this I look at them and say 'these builds of kirbo, gordon, lu bu and sonic are weak???' --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 8:41:26 PM #134: |
aigis to mid it must be --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 8:45:24 PM #135: |
Chaeix posted... aigis to mid sir this is a wendys and also low tier --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 8:45:37 PM #136: |
that's what i meant --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 02/14/23 9:12:02 PM #137: |
Johnbobb posted... not a single one of you fuckers bought Kirby? I should have played --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 02/14/23 9:17:46 PM #138: |
I love but he doesn't fit my strategy and I don't think he does well in a format this short :\ --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Stronger than the storms that they've shown you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 9:18:08 PM #139: |
literally make a brand new kirby build that is all shiny and nice and proven to be good in showmatches and nobody buys into it smh my head --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 02/14/23 9:20:04 PM #140: |
Im offended that Gordon is thought of to be at the same power level as Frontiers Sonic --- I find it kinda bussin, I find it kinda cap That the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kinda slap ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 02/14/23 9:20:54 PM #141: |
KanzarisKelshen posted... literally make a brand new kirby build that is all shiny and nice and proven to be good in showmatches and nobody buys into it FFDragon posted... --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GANON1025 02/14/23 9:23:53 PM #142: |
I mean, if you buy Sonic and upgrade his Super Sonic ability, then thats what, a merc thats essentially MGR Raiden+ with insane uptime thanks to max Frontier rings --- I find it kinda bussin, I find it kinda cap That the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kinda slap ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MajinZidane 02/14/23 9:29:21 PM #143: |
he fast --- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to Boko United." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanzarisKelshen 02/14/23 9:31:22 PM #144: |
GANON1025 posted... Im offended that Gordon is thought of to be at the same power level as Frontiers Sonic I mean same but I know I am the high water mark of SANIC respect I calibrated assuming he wouldn't be taken that seriously just for the sake of not griefing players if they invested into him --- Shine on, you crazy diamond. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 10:09:37 PM #145: |
bounty hunt Mario my gp :( --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaeix 02/14/23 10:10:41 PM #146: |
or I suppose hire Mario as a bounty hunter obviously I am not hunting Mario here --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 02/14/23 10:19:15 PM #147: |
[b]Bounty Hunter Meta Knight[/b] --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://i.imgur.com/AWY4xHy.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 02/14/23 10:19:32 PM #148: |
Bounty Hunter Meta Knight --- Board 8's Voice of Reason https://i.imgur.com/AWY4xHy.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AriaOfBolo 02/14/23 10:22:24 PM #149: |
Chaeix posted... obviously I am not hunting Mario here the most-a dangerous game --- New name, new gender, same great Bolo flavor! Stronger than the storms that they've shown you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trdl23 02/14/23 10:22:25 PM #150: |
GANON1025 posted... I mean, if you buy Sonic and upgrade his Super Sonic ability, then thats what, a merc thats essentially MGR Raiden+ with insane uptime thanks to max Frontier rings@GANON1025 Get into our discord server nao --- E come vivo? Vivo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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