Current Events > BREAKING: Active shooter at Michigan State University, multiple victi

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seems like the shooter offed himself.

It sounds like the accused just off themself.

Lake Lansing and larch omg that is 5 blocks from my house

Braindead yanks and their beloved guns

https://twitter.com/diamondswet999/status/1625353116358004736

Orosuke posted...

Lake Lansing and larch omg that is 5 blocks from my house

Im glad youre okay and hope you stay safe.

Orosuke posted...

Lake Lansing and larch omg that is 5 blocks from my house

I'm at Mt. Hope/Penn area but at work on the Westside now

Scorsese2002 posted...

I'm at Mt. Hope/Penn area but at work on the Westside now

That corner shop is where I used to get my weed lol.

Well not Mt Hope but I always confuse that intersection with Jolly because of the green plus sign on the doctor's office on Mt Hope/Penn

I didn't go to MSU, but I knew people that did in the early to mid 00s. One of them being a friend I've known since kindergarten.

I still have mild PTSD from the shooting I was in a few years ago. Being in shit like this messes you up even if you are safe. Horrible.

Orosuke posted...

Well not Mt Hope but I always confuse that intersection with Jolly because of the green plus sign on the doctor's office on Mt Hope/Penn

Too many damn shops around here nowadays

SiO4 posted...

It sounds like the accused just off themself.

that ain't good. wanting that criminal to stand trial. they took the cowards way out.

they always fucking take the easy out. Pisses me off every god damned time

ssj3vegeta posted...

just one shooter, all other news are fake news, is what is being said by police

Always a good reminder that it's not unusual for the 'multiple shooter' report to get thrown around in active shooter cases. Best to wait things to get resolved and settled down to learn what actually happened

I bet this manifesto is gonna be a doozy

so It's finally over?

Malcrasternus posted...

Are firearms allowed on their property?
Conceal carry isn't as common as people think. Some states make it so muddy and difficult to tell where exactly firearms can be carried that most people don't bother to carry.

Fun fact. 11 states allow concealed carry on college campuses and currently a 12th one is about to be added to the list.

The_OD posted...

Fun fact. 11 states allow concealed carry on college campuses and currently a 12th one is about to be added to the list.

Not Michigan

https://twitter.com/jillsman/status/1625339462996598786

Oh no not puffies

This is why i hate politics.

Stop arguing about what color you are, and work together to stop this bullshit. crazy fuckers work together, why can't they do it? Other countries don't deal with this every other month.

It's disgusting, and i feel fucking terrible knowing someone lost their life pointlessly again to this.

What a tragedy. Very sad.

That being said, he could have used anything: knife, club, even his own hands. Blaming these fewer than plentiful incidents on the weapon being a gun is a slippery slope, since he could have arguably used anything.

It's true the scope of the crime is much broader in it's brutality with a gun, especially with the Vegas incident. But we also need to take into consideration the suspects age, previous behavior and mental health. Crimes like these are never black and white, imo.

its tragic this happened and its even more tragic that America cares so little about this they still wont implement gun control. It will be thoughts and prayers for an hour, then onto the next mass shooting.

Zikten posted...

they always fucking take the easy out. Pisses me off every god damned time

Nah, Im always glad when they do it to themselves.

If they took this shooter in, theyd be wasting everyones time and money with the processing and appeals. Throw in the decades-long incarceration and its just a drawn out joke.

Questionmarktarius posted...

seems like the shooter offed himself.

These cowards always do...

NostraL0r3 posted...

What a tragedy. Very sad.

That being said, he could have used anything: knife, club, even his own hands. Blaming these fewer than plentiful incidents on the weapon being a gun is a slippery slope, since he could have arguably used anything.

It's true the scope of the crime is much broader in it's brutality with a gun, especially with the Vegas incident. But we also need to take into consideration the suspects age, previous behavior and mental health. Crimes like these are never black and white, imo.

That's like legalizing drunk driving and not thinking it's the alcohol but "age, previous behavior, and mental health". Sure those things are important to sift through, but guns are the immediate preventative option you take first. If you treat an alcoholic depressed person, you deal with the addiction first, not the depression.

you know the deal: thoughts and prayers blah blah nothing we can do blah blah blah and so on.

Muricah never changes...

https://twitter.com/Sanjyuuichi/status/1625362629094178816?t=02NnA2bxdZbaI80oaoPqZw&s=19

Why are gun lovers in USA so dumb? This guy for example saying knives are deadlier

Knives are less lethal and more dangerous at close range. Okay dipshit, bring your 4 inch bladed pocket knife and I'll bring a shotgun and we will see how it goes.

Talk2DaHand posted...

https://twitter.com/Sanjyuuichi/status/1625362629094178816?t=02NnA2bxdZbaI80oaoPqZw&s=19

Why are gun lovers in USA so dumb? This guy for example saying knives are deadlier

Hes clearly a weeb, we already knew he was stupid from that.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

you know the drill: thoughts and prayers blah blah nothing we can do blah blah blah and so on.

Muricah never changes...

No way to prevent this says only nation where this regulary happens

A person on Reddit posted police updates while this was going on:

9:01 3 already confirmed dead. 14+ people wounded. Landon Halls cafeteria being used as a triage site. Additional police have been requested from Okemos and Grand Ledge.
9:02 Shots were just reported outside SnyPhi
9:03 witnesses requested to move to Landon Hall Cafeteria
9:05 Two police teams prepping to enter and sweep Phillips Hall
9:08 Student Union sweep completed and reported safe. Police are holding the building.
9:09 SUSPECT RUNNING TOWARDS OWEN HALL RUNNING SOUTH, WEARING DARK CLOTHES AND A LONG GUN
9:11 Black pickup truck with person inside outside of Anthony Hall. A shot was heard on the 911 call and call disconnected. Police en route
9:17 911 calls received that an individual is walking the halls of Phillips with an AR type rifle.
9:21 Teams are inside and clearing Snyder-Phillips. [wings and floors not posted for officer safety]
9:23 One caller reporting shots at IM East
9:24 Limping suspect moving towards Harrison on Grand River.
9:25 Evacuation route is established and in progress from SnyPhi. Police escorting from [redacted in SynPhi] to [different, already secured location]
9:26 Shots reported at the Basketball Courts near IM East
9:27 Police cleared Basketball Courts at IM East, no shots
9:27 Sparrow Hospital is full, all new victims to be diverted to McLaren.
9:27 All available medics/EMTs in the county have been directed to converge on MSUs campus
9:33 Civilians being evacuated from IM East
9:35 Tip of an individual with a gun was a juvenile with a BB gun. Suspect(s) still at large
9:36 Reports at comm arts ramp. Police investigating
9:38 911 Caller 3rd floor SnyPhi. Lots of screaming and someone yelling to open up
9:39 Reports of someone seen near the Lansing River Trail near M127.
9:39 IM East is cleared.
9:41 Investigating Village Dr Parking ramp (Cedar Village)
9:43 Reports of 4 shots fired Hubbard courtyard
9:44 Units investigating Hubbard and Village Dr ramp
9:44 Village Drive Ramp is cleared.
9:46 Helicopter is requested to clear the woodline
9:47 Comm Arts Ramp Cleared.
9:47 perimeter being established around Akers Hall. Team of 15 officers entering building to clear [location]
9:50 Officer reporting Akers bathrooms are clear, but confirms smell of gunpowder/fireworks etc
9:51 Reports of shots fired in Hubbard Hall, room [redacted]
9:55 Hubbard Hall being entered
9:57 Hubbard Hall [rm redacted] cleared
9:57 Black male with something long in hands, possibly a rifle outside Chemistry Building
9:58 3 total shooters according to a photo posted on Facebook. Two wearing black hoodies. Picture taken from a rental on Bogue.
10:00 Negotiation team on site
10:01 Reports of shots first floor McDonel Hall loading dock
10:02 Yelling in hallway in Cedar Village reported (building 504?)
10:03 person with firearm is threatening group of people Cedar Village
10:03 Akers secured, police are holding the building to use as a shelter location
10:06 picture of supposed suspects as reported on scanner. Helmet cams are visible so hopefully they are cops coming from off duty
10:10 Akers Hall confirmed cleared, suspect sighting was a police officer.
10:10 Basement of Hubbard Cleared. Conflicting reports of shots in Cedar Village.
10:12 Cedar Village cleared
10:15 grey F150 reported belongs to an off duty officer responding
10:18 Owens Hall wooded area: reports of two suspects
10:20 reported shots fired Bessey Hall area
10:20 investigating report of single shot at STEM building
10:24 Calls from a room in Bessey of people knocking on a door. Boots seen under door. Nobody has confirmed they are knocking on the door
10:25 Civilians being evacuated from [Redacted] stairwell in Bessey. Civilians evacuated from Wharton Parking Ramp.
10:30 ALL UNITS BE ADVISED, SINGLE 911 CALL CLAIMING BOMBS PLACED ON CAMPUS. CALLER DISCONNECTED
10:31 Two individuals seen near crunchys, one limping
10:35 Reports at Brody Cafeteria
10:36 Reports of truck unloading at Owen Hall. Police investigating if it is related to the bomb threat
10:39 Police investigating reports of a text chain alleged to show that the accused is hiding in a dorm room
10:41 Reports of suspicious person at The Hub wearing a mask
10:43 Scanner was breaking up, unsure of building but police have multiple rooms barricaded with civilians inside who will be evacuating shortly
10:45 Individual with black shirt and hat near tennis courts reported
10:46 Black pickup and small sedan circling around near Birch
10:46 female needing medical attention extracted from [redacted], still need a medic (possibly the asthma attack reported earlier?)
10:48 Reports of two white individuals with weapons near Grand River.
10:49 Calls received for a group of people in [building redacted] who are safe but waiting for police escort to safe zone
10:52 reports of shots at IM Circle
10:54 3 police teams sweeping IM Circle
10:55 Door found lodged open IM Circle
10:55 Black dodge ram circling Wilson Hall. Male pacing back and forth outside.
10:56 Police team informed of civilians barricading in [redacted] IM Circle
10:58 reports of shots fired Bryan Hall
10:59 3-4 shot burst Wonders Hall
As of 11:00, officers from neighboring Clinton and Livingston counties are also on-site, joining EL, L, MSU, Okemos, and Grand Ledge PDs
11:05 IM Circle is cleared
11:07 White SUV seen leaving snyphi 20 min ago, person enters wearing red hoodie and large bag
11:07 Shots reported in Brody
11:08 Clearing Wilson Hall
11:08 Police confirm that actual officers are making contact with barricaded civilians
11:15 more reports of shots fired Bryan Hall
11:21 1st floor McDonel Hall swept
11:22 something about the accused at the callers address? My connection broke up
11:23 Lansing SWAT arriving at command post
11:21-11:23 misc suspicious persons reports
11:28 Wilson being cleared
11:28 Command post tells clearing teams to secure their locations and stay there to keep them safe
11:30 Brody Hall is cleared aside from those sheltering in place
11:31 Single shot reported Wonders Hall south
11:33 New officer voice asks if conversation can be moved to encrypted channel to avoid leaking to public and/or the suspect
11:42 person matching suspects description seen on High Street towards Lake Lansing Rd
11:47 police units converging towards N High Street, and another team checking Harrison Roadhouse
11:51 Eyes on possible suspect. Another tip that he may be on [floor] of [dorm]
11:53 reports of evacuations of [building] with ~100 students. Medic requested for unknown reasons
11:55 SUSPECT AT LAKE LANSING AND LARCH, GUNSHOT SELF INFLICTED
11:57 firearm found discarded. Second firearm found in backpack
11:57 no pulse, performing CPR. Matched suspect description and clothes from picture in police release

Whoever did the troll call about bombs on campus is a massive piece of shit

Also, the audio is available from when this was first reported for about 20 minutes (jump to 7:50):
shorturl.at/bvGW7

I wouldn't listen to it if you're easily disturbed.

Oh, and to top it all off: [The shooter] has a history with firearms.
He was sentenced to 18 months in state prison in November 2019 after being convicted of possessing a loaded firearm in a vehicle. He was released from supervision in May 2021.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

MisterPengy posted...

Also, the audio is available from when this was first reported for about 20 minutes (jump to 7:50):
shorturl.at/bvGW7

I wouldn't listen to it if you're easily disturbed.

Oh, and to top it all off: [The shooter] has a history with firearms.
He was sentenced to 18 months in state prison in November 2019 after being convicted of possessing a loaded firearm in a vehicle. He was released from supervision in May 2021.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Ya, I was listening live, it was pretty terrifying.

However, I said it once and I'll say it again.
Major props to the Beast of a Dispatcher.
~She completely kicked ass under severe pressure.

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1625500964429123584?t=tMXffOXIXdJSYSmxKy1s3Q&s=19

^ it's so fucked up that we have people in this country who don't just experience one mass shooting itself (which is already tragic), but multiple.

Hayame_Zero posted...

One of the survivors was also a Sandy Hook shooting survivor

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1625500964429123584?t=tMXffOXIXdJSYSmxKy1s3Q&s=19

:(

NostraL0r3 posted...

What a tragedy. Very sad.

That being said, he could have used anything: knife, club, even his own hands. Blaming these fewer than plentiful incidents on the weapon being a gun is a slippery slope, since he could have arguably used anything.

It's true the scope of the crime is much broader in it's brutality with a gun, especially with the Vegas incident. But we also need to take into consideration the suspects age, previous behavior and mental health. Crimes like these are never black and white, imo.

I don't think most people are saying crimes like these are "black or white", more that the extent and severity was due to having a firearm.

Also, do you believe any (as in every single) person could kill five people with their bare hands if they wanted to?

NostraL0r3 posted...

What a tragedy. Very sad.

That being said, he could have used anything: knife, club, even his own hands. Blaming these fewer than plentiful incidents on the weapon being a gun is a slippery slope, since he could have arguably used anything.

*Holds up hand*

Shut the fuck up, chud.

https://twitter.com/tmz/status/1625542211206103061?s=46&t=WOFGO1WPXeZ8DUhf5VfHvQ

The aftermath is 3 dead, plus a lone shooter who offed himself?

I was trying to follow this last night.

Alteres posted...

The aftermath is 3 dead, plus a lone shooter who offed himself?

I was trying to follow this last night.

Five were injured as well.
And a broken community.

Ruvan22 posted...

I don't think most people are saying crimes like these are "black or white", more that the extent and severity was due to having a firearm.

Also, do you believe any (as in every single) person could kill five people with their bare hands if they wanted to?

It's entirely possible.

If someone is big enough/strong enough, or understands the human body's weak points, short ranged weapons are just as effective if not more so than a gun. There was a serial killer who walked into people's homes and slit their throats while they were sleeping; I'm not sure the exact death count but it was over 10.

For those who are for gun regulation, I have a question: what exactly does that look like?

Is it a case by case basis, or does it look like Trudeau's sweeping national ban? Even though, guns will still be obtainable by illegal means?

mybbqrules posted...

*Holds up hand*

Shut the fuck up, chud.

So spicy.

NostraL0r3 posted...

So spicy.

Well, considering we have rocket scientists like you making asinine claims like "bArE hAnDs ANd kNiVEs ARe jUSt aS dAnGErOus aS gUNs" when people are dead from gun violence (yet again), yeah a bit of spiciness is expected.

So now, please explain why you think a man with a knife or bare hands could kill the same number of people in a crowded mall as a man with a fully loaded AR and a tac vest full of magazines.

When it comes to laws you have to actually look at whats already there. Michigan isnt as strict when it comes to handguns as California or NY, but they are stricter than most of the country. Universal Background Checks, Registration, Purchase Permits and many (convoluted) laws dictating where you can and cant carry. No Red Flag laws (yet), but even that only works on the assumption that someone will actually say something of which the father never did or tried to to anyone else.

The only reason we know of how he got the gun was because he was never prosecuted on weapons charges in the past so it was busted down to a misdemeanor which allowed him to still buy the firearm. That right there might be a place to start.

Youre only going to get so far in Michigan when it comes to other gun laws. Its a huge hunting and militia state and AR15's are everywhere, even in democrat homes.