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SrRd_RacinG
02/23/23 4:47:38 PM
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It's rarely used and largely failed as a movement/term.

Good riddance. What's your opinion on this term?

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Hinakuluiau
02/23/23 4:50:48 PM
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Of course it failed, there was a huge movement to convince people that it was white people who came up with it instead of students in Puerto Rico
People also disagree with the concept that having the gender neutral be male is problematic. Not to mention that Hispanic culture is overwhelmingly full of traditional individuals who aren't okay with gender fluidness and trans individuals

So yeah, not really a surprise

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boxoto
02/23/23 4:51:01 PM
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I'm indifferent on it, but I feel like, if people want to use it, then let them, and if others don't, then they don't need to.

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mario2000
02/23/23 4:52:24 PM
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why are they called latin in the first place

they're not from ancient rome

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BurmesePenguin
02/23/23 4:53:01 PM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Of course it failed, there was a huge movement to convince people that it was white people who came up with it instead of students in Puerto Rico
People also disagree with the concept that having the gender neutral be male is problematic. Not to mention that Hispanic culture is overwhelmingly full of traditional individuals who aren't okay with gender fluidness and trans individuals

So yeah, not really a surprise
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Hayame_Zero
02/23/23 4:53:39 PM
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It strikes me as white liberals trying to create an inclusive term solely out of being afraid to step on progressive Latin Americans' toes, but not having the foresight to realize it wasn't an issue in the first place.

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Seaman_Prime
02/23/23 4:58:03 PM
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It was doomed to fail cause when you read it, it looks like its pronounced Lah-tincks. And god knows that most hispanic people aint gonna call themselves that lol
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legendary_zell
02/23/23 5:00:30 PM
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It just annoys me when I see people say only woke white people use it when I primarily hear it from activists the term describes, and basically the only times I've heard it used irl have been by my very very Latina friend from South Texas.

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Gamingsince1989
02/23/23 5:00:35 PM
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I've always referred to myself as Hispanic. If people want to know what I am specifically I'll tell them, but Hispanic has always been more than sufficient.
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Gamespoht
02/23/23 5:01:01 PM
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Latin-ex
Lah-tinks
La-tee necks

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xlr_big-coop
02/23/23 5:02:54 PM
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As a Mexican it felt like something white people tried to force on us. They tried to fix a problem that simply isn't there. Telemundo and Univision went out and interviewed people and they said over 90% of the Latinos interviewed said they didn't like the term.

So good riddance, this will be something i tell my kids one day so we can all laugh and mock at the stupidity of the current generation.

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Imit8m3
02/23/23 5:03:06 PM
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Isn't X in Spanish pronounced H in English? How tf are you supposed to pronounce this in Spanish!?


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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/23/23 5:07:44 PM
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Imit8m3 posted...
Isn't X in Spanish pronounced H in English? How tf are you supposed to pronounce this in Spanish!?


Lol. The whole thing was created by diaspora progressive kids. Not a word used by anyone in any spanish speaking country and when they do (emulating progressive internet speak) they pronounce it english anyway. NOBODY LITERALLY NOBODY says Latin Equis

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NonDairyMiltank
02/23/23 5:21:33 PM
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Of course it failed, it was pushed by pretentious activists claiming it was all inclusive while dismissing the opinions of already existing cultural majorities who didn't see it as necessary to begin with.

and it DID NOT help that some of the loudest and angriest advocates for it were NOT a part of the targeted group
they got no business preaching how language works in other cultures, they should stay in their own fkin lane


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Smackems
02/23/23 5:21:57 PM
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It's fuckin stupid

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EndOfDiscOne
02/23/23 5:24:05 PM
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Back to the drawing board

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OpenlyGator
02/23/23 5:34:57 PM
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"Latinx" failed as a term.

It just seemed like the sales pitch for it was poorly thought out for multiple reasons. I'm not surprised more than a few people were indifferent or against the term. It's like they're weren't consulted, but instead straight up told to use it by a pushy fringe desperate to have it be the new norm.

Influencing consumers by telling them they need a product is a viable method of promoting sales and getting them to standardize it, but only works if you can convince the consumer they actually need it. There wasn't a majority need for "latinx". There were literally valid reasons against it...

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mech_dragon
02/23/23 5:46:14 PM
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Linguists would disagree that the term has "failed" but go on and keep virtue signaling.

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FortuneCookie
02/23/23 5:47:39 PM
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Good.
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BettyWhite
02/23/23 5:49:37 PM
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Wouldn't you have to change every gendered word?

Mi abuelx coma tacxs con su perrx en Puertx Ricx.

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FigureOfSpeech
02/23/23 5:50:47 PM
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boxoto posted...
I'm indifferent on it, but I feel like, if people want to use it, then let them, and if others don't, then they don't need to.

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Aztex
02/23/23 5:51:31 PM
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Good it makes no sense it's only applied to humans they're literally trying to change a language as well.

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GuerrillaSoldier
02/23/23 5:55:18 PM
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if i'm gonna change what i refer to my ethnicity as, i'm not going to change it to something that sounds stupid any way you try to read or say it

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ElleRagu
02/23/23 5:58:44 PM
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i'm not latin american and thus don't have a strong opinion on the term

leave it up to the people themselves to decide if it's usable or not

i've seen alternatives like "latine" that seems to be catching on in latin communities but then again i've also seen the occasional latin american who *gasp* uses "latinx"

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Mr_hulk88
02/23/23 5:59:42 PM
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Imit8m3 posted...
Isn't X in Spanish pronounced H in English?

The x in spanish is pronounced as an x.
How do you think we say words like extrao?

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Link_of_time
02/23/23 6:07:55 PM
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mario2000 posted...
why are they called latin in the first place

they're not from ancient rome
The language spoken is derived from latin.
  • Latin = anyone whose native language is based on latin. French, Spanish, Italian..etc
  • Hispanic = anyone from a Spanish speaking country. Spain, Mexico, Chile, PuertoRico...etc
  • Latino = anyone from Spanish speaking countries of Central and South America.
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DarkBuster22904
02/23/23 6:31:35 PM
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I am not part of any single demographic the word impacts, so I have no real opinion to offer on its adoption, failure, or whatever grey area in between it's in.

I do, however, contend that it is a very poorly made term, and its no surprise so few people were willing to adopt it. From how it's spelled to how it's pronounced, everything about it is off.I legitimately thought it was pronounced "lah-tincks" for the first year or so that I knew of the word, and to this day I still have to pause and mentally correct myself every time I read it.

It makes no attempt to work within the language that it's trying to correct, which I acknowledge is the point; but it still makes it clunky as hell, and makes it stick out like a sore thumb. There are, to my knowledge, virtually no words in Spanish that end in "x," and no words in any language that end with "consonant-x" that pronounce it as "ecks." It's a linguistic anomaly; the students who coined the term straight up just threw a math variable on the end and called it a day.

I think that's why it's so commonly called "a word white liberals made up for a group they aren't in." Because it legit SOUNDS like a word that a white person who doesnt speak the language would come up with. Nothing about the word sounds spanish.

And it IS entirely possible to have words in Spanish without gendered 'a' or 'o' suffixes; why on earth they didn't try a little harder to make one is beyond me.

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Gamingsince1989
02/23/23 6:37:18 PM
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Mr_hulk88 posted...
The x in spanish is pronounced as an x.

That's not always the case though. The x isn't pronounced like an x in Mexico or Texas. It depends on the origin of the word on how the x is pronounced. A name like Xavier and Xochitl aren't pronounced with an x sound either.
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dancing_cactuar
02/23/23 6:44:12 PM
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Only time I've ever seen this used was when Gringos were trying to fix a problem that never existed.

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DrizztLink
02/23/23 6:44:15 PM
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Brazil, for the most part.

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Mr_hulk88
02/23/23 7:47:24 PM
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Gamingsince1989 posted...
That's not always the case though. The x isn't pronounced like an x in Mexico or Texas. It depends on the origin of the word on how the x is pronounced. A name like Xavier and Xochitl aren't pronounced with an x sound either.
Oh that's just an oddity. Correctly it should in fact be spelled mejico, oajaca, tejas, etc. But normally the letter x is pronounced as eks.
Oxxo, extra, axin, and stuff like that.

Edit; and xochitl is pronounced with an S by the way. And Javier is usually written with an J either way.
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OmegaM
02/23/23 8:35:41 PM
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I thought it was a fun word. It made me think of Pokemon-Ex and Mega Man X.
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Link_of_time
02/24/23 10:59:57 AM
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Sry, forgot to add the country list example at the end. While i would say they are in, I've heard it argued for their exclusion. Something about if Brazilians, why not Haitians.
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Questionmarktarius
02/24/23 11:01:05 AM
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It just seems like folly to hammer gender-neutral into languages where a chair is gendered for some reason.
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ShadowMan033
02/24/23 11:11:06 AM
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I laughed when in the father of the bride remake, the Chloe Fineman character kept calling it la-tinks

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R1masher
02/24/23 11:12:06 AM
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Idk, I still use it

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Bigpapaplut
02/24/23 11:53:58 AM
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Of course it failed. It was fucking stupid
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famfam
02/24/23 12:13:41 PM
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Latino but not Hispanic, according to some
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ViewtifulGrave
02/24/23 12:32:56 PM
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mech_dragon posted...
Linguists would disagree that the term has "failed" but go on and keep virtue signaling.
Why would linguists be the deciding factor and not the people?

Legit question?

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Prestoff
02/24/23 12:37:11 PM
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Doesn't the letter "X" in Spanish pronounced like a "H"?

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Mr_hulk88
02/24/23 12:38:38 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Doesn't the letter "X" in Spanish pronounced like a "H"?

NO. Facepalm
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