Current Events > Stop shaming non-voters.

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Stop shaming non-voters. Not everyone can afford to take time off work to wait in line for hours to vote. Not everyone has the same access to voting that you do.

Mail-in ballots fyi.

It also literally doesnt matter except local elections. Particularly if you live in a state that is firmly red or blue.

Jagr_68 posted...

Mail-in ballots fyi.

Not every state has the same access to mail-in voting, either. Here are the mail-in voting requirements in my state of Texas:

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:
be 65 years or older;
be sick or disabled;
be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

They can shame me all they want idc. No politics is worth putting pants on and leaving the house for.

How many non-voters are abstaining from the polls due to long lines?

A_Good_Boy posted...

How many non-voters are abstaining from the polls due to long lines?

In some states, you can wait in line for up to 8 hours to vote.

VGAddict90 posted...

In some states, you can wait in line for up to 8 hours to vote.

I know you can in some states, but how many people are staying away from the polls because of that?

I dont feel shamed for not voting, its cool

Your gimmick is getting old.

VGAddict90 posted...

Not every state has the same access to mail-in voting, either. Here are the mail-in voting requirements in my state of Texas

Sucks to be them I guess.

I just fill out the ballot at home, drive to the local library, and drop off the ballot in the box. There're always long lines for people who are voting there, but if you fill out before you get there, you can skip all the lines.

Its wild how widespread voter suppression is in the US. Many countries actually want their citizens to vote. Some countries require you to vote to participate in public services or get a passport.

I'm not convinced anyone agreeing with TC has ever ACTUALLY gone in person to vote.

It's easy...

SilvosForever posted...

I'm not convinced anyone agreeing with TC has ever ACTUALLY gone in person to vote.

It's easy...

Ah, yes, the "I've never experienced voter suppression, so voter suppression isn't real!" argument.

The_Yahtz09 posted...

Its wild how widespread voter suppression is in the US. Many countries actually want their citizens to vote.

Voter suppression is despicable. It is denying an individual their right to simply say "I exist" within their own country.

Jagr_68 posted...

Mail-in ballots fyi.

In my state, you have to prove that you will be completely out of your home county for the entire day or that you are physically incapable of leaving your home. It's not something you're allowed to request just because. The fact that I don't have a car isn't good enough to get a mail-in ballot, for instance.

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I live in a major city in a red state. I had to wait hours to vote in 2020.

Jagr_68 posted...

Mail-in ballots fyi.

this. there's also early in-person voting. there's no excuse to not vote

A few months ago was the first time I ever voted. I did the early voting on a Saturday morning. The place was so empty. There was only 1 person in front of me which means no wait since there are multiple kiosks. I just walked in and voted and walked out within 5 minutes. I plan to do early voting from here on out.

Nah shame em more. We need to vote out Republicans.

All these states with nonsense mail-in ballot prerequisites need to pull their head out their asses.

Here in AZ, as long as you're a registered voter, you can opt in for mail-in ballots. I don't know how it works for people not originally from the state or country, but it's never been a difficult process for me. Although in recent years it's been kinda stupid because they give you the option to check off that you want recurring mail-in ballots moving forward, yet they still send you the opt-in pamphlet every election year regardless. And some Repubs naturally want to do away with it altogether, go figure.

I don't know why these assholes are trying to force people to interact in lines and shit. Even in AZ with mail-in ballots, we still had absurdly long lines at in-person locations with some places still going long after the polls supposedly closed. Those lines are just a hotbed for the same senseless arguing and grandstanding you see online, just in person. I don't want to stand around for hours listening to other peoples' political discourse that I get enough of on TV and online.

pkmnlord posted...

All these states with nonsense mail-in ballot prerequisites need to pull their head out their asses.

Unfortunately, a lot of these prerequisites are designed to keep certain demographics from voting. The powers that be won't change the rules because it benefits them.

Luckily for me, in my state you can just say that you wont be able to get to the polls on Election Day in order to vote early.

There's no constitutional reason why we all have to vote on the same day.

_Rinku_ posted...

The powers that be won't change the rules because it benefits them.

Then you need to change the powers that be by voting them out or establishing rogue militia groups to cause grievous bodily harm to them.

seems to me like the US has some fucked up voting rules

early voting is a thing. I haven't waited in a line to vote ever.

pkmnlord posted...

Then you need to change the powers that be by voting them out or establishing rogue militia groups to cause grievous bodily harm to them.

Dude, are you seriously advocating terrorism?

pkmnlord posted...

Then you need to change the powers that be by voting them out or establishing rogue militia groups to cause grievous bodily harm to them.

Quoting before possible deletion lol

Nah, I will continue to shame you forever

ROBANN_88 posted...

seems to me like the US has some fucked up voting rules

We really do, and republicans aren't going to be willing to fix that any time soon.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dude, are you seriously advocating terrorism?

I mean, to be fair, that's kinda in the Constitution, isn't it? The right of the people to establish a militia to overthrow the government should it become tyrannical?

_Rinku_ posted...

I mean, to be fair, that's kinda in the Constitution, isn't it?

No. That's in the Declaration.

Questionmarktarius posted...

No. That's in the Declaration.

I knew it was somewhere lol

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dude, are you seriously advocating terrorism?

"dUdE, aRe yoU sErioUslY advocating TERRORISM!?"

I'm being facetious, obviously. Christ you people are dense.

mustachedmystic posted...

Luckily for me, in my state you can just say that you wont be able to get to the polls on Election Day in order to vote early.

They didn't even ask or need a reason to vote early in my state. The option was just there to do it.

If your a non voter then you have absolutely no right to complain about anything. Make the damn time. Some jobs even let you go early so you can vote. There is no excuse to not go out and do it. So I'm gonna continue to shame non voters. Especially the ones who wanna complain about everything but then say they don't vote.

Nirvanas_Nox posted...

If your a non voter then you have absolutely no right to complain about anything. Make the damn time. Some jobs even let you go early so you can vote. There is no excuse to not go out and do it. So I'm gonna continue to shame non voters. Especially the ones who wanna complain about everything but then say they don't vote.

Not everyone can afford to take time off work to vote. Do you know how many people are one missed paycheck away from living on the streets?

I'm an American who hasn't lived in the country since 2006 (besides a brief 6 months in 2012).
I don't vote in US elections because I don't live there and it doesn't affect me.
I'm legally not allowed to vote where I do live.

I will comment and complain about the state of events in either place because I'm a thinking person with eyes, therefore I can make observations.

pkmnlord posted...

Then you need to change the powers that be by voting them out or establishing rogue militia groups to cause grievous bodily harm to them.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dude, are you seriously advocating terrorism?

So how do you think one removes from power a group of people who have used every mechanism of power to rig the game in their favor?

We aren't there yet, but if the SCOTUS side with conservatives in favor of the independent state legislature theory then that's it. The dems will not be allowed to ever win a presidential election again since the GOP has already been allowed to gerrymander the shit out of everything.

VGAddict90 posted...

Not every state has the same access to mail-in voting, either. Here are the mail-in voting requirements in my state of Texas:

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

so you should probably vote in some local elections and get that changed since it seems pretty illegal

Idk what shame feels like. Does it feel wet? I bet it feels wet

VGAddict90 posted...

Not everyone can afford to take time off work to vote. Do you know how many people are one missed paycheck away from living on the streets?

No excuse. If you can't take time off go after work. Or go early. Most states allow for time to be taken off to vote. There is no excuse to not vote. I don't like voting either but I do it anyway. I take the time to go vote. You want change then make the damn time.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Dude, are you seriously advocating terrorism?

You've described yourself as Randian you basically advocate for terrorism with that school of thought.

Everyone who can vote but chooses not to is ultimately response for every bad thing a politician does

No

UnfairRepresent posted...

Everyone who can vote but chooses not to is ultimately response for every bad thing a politician does

No, the people who vote against the good people in the primaries (in the rare case there actually is a good one) and vote for the corrupt piles of shit in the generals are. Give me a leftist candidate and not a moderate Republican like the vast majority of Democrats are and I'll vote for them.

OudeGeuze posted...

You've described yourself as Randian you basically advocate for terrorism with that school of thought.

The closest thing to "terrorism" Rand ever advocated was expecting everyone to read a 100-page monologue/rant.

There is only a specific "non-voter" crowd I will happily shame and it's those that constantly bitch about politics online (slacktivism) and have the means to vote but simply choose not to vote. I know 2 people in real life that does this shit (funny enough both are opposite ends of the political spectrum).