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Just finished No More Heroes 2 Desperate Struggle, seeing how this thing holds up.

Overrated. A few good Sonic / Shadow levels but the rest are trash. Chaos Garden is fun tho

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

Overrated.

By others! Me however?
I've got some Crazy Gadget themed war flashbacks and I know the lyrics to City Escape.
I'll figure this out the hard way.

Oh my goodness, a palette swap with a chaos emerald. Who could be behind this?
Scratch and Grounder? Super Mario? Blonic?!

Pay no mind to the glorified tamagotchis.

Oh I've missed you, Deem Bristow as Dr Eggman.

How are your Chao holding up?

Wild Canyon. You pick up a piece of an emerald. Then another, then a third one. Knuckles is convinced there are no more parts here after getting three and leaves. I don't know if he has magic or a radar or what.
SiO4 posted...

How are your Chao holding up?

I've never played the minigame. I definitely fed one and carried it around but I never put any time into it.

Live and learn!

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Look at me like that all you want, lady.

I stand by my statement.

Sonic's in a cell because of a dark doppelganger. Now we're at a harbor level.
*Gives Mario Sunshine a disappointed glare.*
You're better than this, Mario.

(Shadow gets hit)
Shadow immediately after: I'm the coolest!

The franchise in summation.

Hell yeah, SA2B. Best Sanic game. Yeah, I said it. S3&K can suck it, Adventure 2 has chao.

Just don't go for all emblems. Trying for an A rank in Crazy Gadget hard mode is actual ass. Bounce attack triggering when you need to light dash, controls fucking up when gravity gets weird; it's the worst mission in the game. And most optional missions are really rough once you get to the space levels in general.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I've never played the minigame. I definitely fed one and carried it around but I never put any time into it.

You're doing it wrong

Dr Eggman just took out the moon and says I have a day to get this done.
Okay I'll give it a go.
Disclaimer: I am no speedrunner, Eggman's probably going to win this one.

Oh right Aquatic Mine. I just remember I need to find a rebreather or something or the last level is going to put me in the crippler crossface.

SA1 is better overall. The abundance of bad mech and treasure hunting stages really hurts the overall quality in 2. There are a few good ones, but they're mostly tedious.

Most of the Shadow and Sonic ones are good, though.

Okay I think that level was being generous with me.
I didn't have to do a whole lot of messing with the water level.

How much can even go wrong in this level where Tails drives around a featureless highway with no discernible threats on it for a few minutes?
You could drive really really badly and not make it within the time but that's all I can think of. Maybe if you hit a wall with enough force you explode?
I guess I should be thankful it's over and there were no accelerator rings involved or Erol to race.

The non-hedgehog levels get way too much shit. They aren't as fun as the hedgie levels, but they're nowhere near as bad as Big's levels in SA1. The only advantage to Big is that his levels are all confined to his own story, so if you just want Sonic or Tails levels, you don't hafta stop to do his awful fishing.

Hambo posted...

The non-hedgehog levels get way too much shit. They aren't as fun as the hedgie levels, but they're nowhere near as bad as Big's levels in SA1. The only advantage to Big is that his levels are all confined to his own story, so if you just want Sonic or Tails levels, you don't hafta stop to do his awful fishing.

I don't have anything against the mech levels so far.
I'm remaining wary of the treasure hunting levels because I remember the space ones being rough.

Hambo posted...

The non-hedgehog levels get way too much shit. They aren't as fun as the hedgie levels, but they're nowhere near as bad as Big's levels in SA1. The only advantage to Big is that his levels are all confined to his own story, so if you just want Sonic or Tails levels, you don't hafta stop to do his awful fishing.

big's fishing is so fucking easy once you realize froggy is always right next to you at the start and that you have to press down to hook. his levels are like 20s long at most

it sucks to get all the emblems but beating his story is one of the least painful in the game. even sonic has more trash in it, like the casinopolis-ice cap-chaos 4-sky chase stretch, and then later you play sky chase 2 which is really bad. tails doesn't even have twinkle park or speed highway to make his stretch any better, and his gameplay is overall way less substantial than sonic's

mechs and hunting are just boring. there are like 3 total hunting levels that are vaguely demanding but otherwise you can just loop them in quick circles and get an easy a rank. i understand why people hate hunting but i don't understand how people struggle with most of the levels when death chamber, mad space, and maybe aquatic mine are the only levels with any real complexity and can't be so easily lapped. mech stages are just the most repetitive platforming that banks on the intrinsic satisfaction on getting big chains

i don't think any of the gameplay modes are bad but most of them are just really mediocre and even the best gameplay style has a few bad moments and bad levels in both games

Knuckles' pyramid level has been the roughest one so far. I was just guessing.
I'm not really sure how much agency I get against not-king-boo either. I just ran back and forth and he took forever to commit to the fireball throwing animation.

Egg Golem as Sonic was just kinda there. When he did the headbutt I tried to bounce up there but I wasn't getting enough height so I went back to running in circles until he was facing the wrong way.

Reached Eternal Engine. Frontrunner for best non-vocal song in the game playing, loads of stuff to shoot. Space.
The game is revealing its power level.

"Okay!" Tails repeatedly yells, with all the forced enthusiasm of a Let's Player who averages 200 views per video.

Oh damn Meteor Herd just gave me it for free. Only took a little under 4 minutes.

Edit: Oh no I have tempted fate and Crazy Gadget has come a-running.

"Well done Sonic, but you're never leave this room alive! Ha-HA~!"
I completely forgot about that line, we used to make fun of it all the time like a decade ago.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I don't know if he has magic or a radar or what.

"I know that it's here,
I can sense it in my feet.
The great Emerald's power allows me to feel it."

-Pumpkin Hill lyrics. So yeah, magic.

That wasn't as bad as I remember. I died like four times and there was a part where I pulled a switch and was dropped into a death pit. Definitely a moment to reflect on prior events.

The last room still feels tense as hell though. Makes you appreciate how Mario Galaxy handles. That game could have been nerve wracking.

Illuminoius posted...

big's fishing is so fucking easy once you realize froggy is always right next to you at the start and that you have to press down to hook. his levels are like 20s long at most

Iirc Hot Shelter and Ice Cap each had some platforming (if only like 20 seconds' worth) to get to the pool where Froggy was. And you'd still hafta search the first time around. And any platforming with Big was garbage. Also controlling the camera and/or moving the lure after casting was really flippin weird and Froggy would occasionally decide he wasn't interested at all that day. I'm sure it's possible to understand wtf is going on and be better at it than I was the last time I played it, but I'd much rather just hop around and blow shit up with Tails and Eggman. It may not be the best part of SA2, but at least there's action and platforming.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Reached Eternal Engine. Frontrunner for best non-vocal song in the game playing, loads of stuff to shoot. Space.
The game is revealing its power level.

Eternal Engine and Prison Lane have the best stage music in the game. Also City Escape, but that's its own thing.

And that's Shadow down and the light story done.
I like the idea of playing a parallel story as the villains. I feel like I don't see that in a lot of games.

Edit: Don't know what I think of Shadow doing literal "You have freed me master, I will grant you a wish" genie dialogue though.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Edit: Don't know what I think of Shadow doing literal "You have freed me master, I will grant you a wish" genie dialogue though.

Yeah that's kind of a weird bit. "I will grant you one wish. Btw I have decided that you wish for me to destroy this guard robot. Now you'll be doing my bidding, kthxbye."

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I'm just doing a single lap through each. I don't really wanna run laps of the same levels trying to figure out which animal I was supposed to whistle at or whatever it was.
I can only take so much treasure hunting.

The level where Eggman walks around Metal Harbor blasting everything felt a bit filler.
Lots of stuff to lock on to though. Kinda novel.

Oh sweet, Security Hall first try. I remember that one being miserable first time round.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

The level where Eggman walks around Metal Harbor blasting everything felt a bit filler.
Lots of stuff to lock on to though. Kinda novel.

He was doing it as a destruction for the other teams

Guess what level I'm at. Here's a clue
"HUT! HUT! HUT! HUT! HUT! HUT! HUT!"

If you get a C rank as Shadow he says "That wasn't so hard" the same way Hotel Mario does.

Mad Space makes me feel the way I felt playing Sonic 06.
I'm just glad it's done.

Got an A for sleepwalking through the long Eggman rail shooter level with the low grav platforms.
Tails gets Eternal Engine and Eggman gets that. Raw deal.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Mad Space makes me feel the way I felt playing Sonic 06.
I'm just glad it's done.

Mad Space was the first time I realized that life was trivial, we exist alone, and we are all doomed to die one day.

Last stretch. Usually you just get a last boss fight in these games but this one has a level and then a boss.
Got the rebreather for Knuckles, I should be okay.

Oh geez that level.
Tails and Eggman's parts, sure, manageable.
Rouge and Knuckles' parts. Tedious. Not fun.
Sonic's part. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention but I was gotcha'd more than once. Level was short enough too, why'd they swap the music out for the generic danger theme at the end?

I forgot how great the Biolizard fight is. Supporting Me is perfect for it.
I knew there was a reason he's my go-to answer when people ask if I have a favorite Sonic character.

For some reason I remember hating this last section with Super Sonic. Time to face the music I guess. More precisely, time to face Live and Learn.
Edit Oh fuck I take it back FIRST TRY!