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(+) Yeah! (+)

This actually looks pretty solid. Wish they didn't spoil the return of the cat but that's minor enough.

masterpug53 posted...

I'm crossing my fingers that this can give Carol's character a needed makeover - she was just too dry in Captain Marvel, and Brie Larson is more than capable of being fun and energetic.

Also this. She's so damn bland in her other appearances. Give her a personality.

Looks like itll be fun.

I really enjoyed Captain Marvel too, so definitely excited for this.

Gamespoht posted...

If this and GOTG 3 are mid, marvel will fall off for sureeeee

There is zero chance Guardians 3 fails. Its still being made by James Gunn. The first 2 movies were massive hits. And this is his final marvel project. He is going out on a bang. No way will he fuck this up

Looks great. I'm looking forward to it

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Yes but I'm wondering why you think the trolls would care. You're kind of saying they have a point and, if they changed the character, then the complaints will stop. They won't.

masterpug53 posted...

To the first point, she could use a character makeover, and I'm crossing my fingers this movie will deliver. There's some potential there, but she was just too dry in her first movie + IW / Endgame. Not singling her out, either - MCU Cap wasn't Cap as we know him today until Winter Soldier, and both the character and the franchise as a whole benefitted from it.

To the second, you're right; I think we all know that Brie Larson could spend the first 20 minutes of the movie giving a tearful mea culpa over how badly she offended the moviegoing masses by daring to be outspoken in like two interviews - while also proclaiming the Quartering guy to be sexiest man alive - and it wouldn't make a dent in changing those particular minds.

Pretty much all of this. Although her being "dry" was due to the amnesia angle, so it's understandable for me.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/8/AACE4xAAEX2I.jpg
Brie lookin fine as fuck at the end

I was super not into hero films but this looks like an absolute banger

What is even Monicas character? I watched WandaVision and still dont know

Goose!

Geese!

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Oh I get that. It was just conflating that with trolls changing their time that threw me.

Zikten posted...

People who avoided Ms Marvel are going to be confused by how this story starts

The very last scene of the season finale was basically a cliffhanger leading into this movie

I'm confused by it. Beyond Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel, who is the third person?

And why is there a giant space station in orbit? That would have been really helpful in the last Avengers movie to deal with Thanos's ship.

And who're these "bad guys" in the film?

Tom_Joad posted...

I'm confused by it. Beyond Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel, whose the third person?

That's Monica Rambeau, who was a child in the first film. Which I'm sure will be explained in the film for those who missed WandaVision.

Your other questions will also be answered in the movie. That station may actually be a ship or not in Earth's orbit or any other number of things.

Tom_Joad posted...

I'm confused by it. Beyond Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel, who is the third person?

Monica Rambeau, she was introduced in WandaVision, which shows how she got her powers.

EDIT: Forgot she appeared as a child in the first Captain Marvel movie

Tom_Joad posted...

And why is there a giant space station in orbit? That would have been really helpful in the last Avengers movie to deal with Thanos's ship.

I believe that space station is for the organization "S.W.O.R.D", which was introduced in Spider-Man: Far From Home, so it was likely created after the events of Endgame.

Tom_Joad posted...

And who're these "bad guys" in the film?

Honestly, I haven't the slightest clue lol

lolife67 posted...

That's Monica Rambeau, who was a child in the first film. Which I'm sure will be explained in the film for those who missed WandaVision.

Your other questions will also be answered in the movie. That station may actually be a ship or not in Earth's orbit or any other number of things.

That's nice, but she's got a superhero costume. So... what superhero is she? The trailer makes it seem like we should already know.

Tom_Joad posted...

That's nice, but she's got a superhero costume. So... what superhero is she? The trailer makes it seem like we should already know.

Photon/Spectrum. In the comics she was the original Captain Marvel.

lolife67 posted...

Photon/Spectrum. In the comics she was the original Captain Marvel.

The 2nd. She came after Captain Mar-Vell (who was technically in the first movie, but was a woman instead and might as well have been a totally different character)

WandaVision shows her "origin" story but she didn't really take up a superhero persona in that show.

i'll watch it when it hits Disney Plus eventually but after seeing the trailer, i didnt care much for it.

i get that its supposed to be fun or whatever but the humor felt a bit lackluster to me, i dunno. either that or im getting tired of MCU in general...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The 2nd. She came after Captain Mar-Vell (who was technically in the first movie, but was a female instead and might as well have been a totally different character)

WandaVision shows her "origin" story but she didn't really take up a superhero persona in that show.

They'd better do a proper introduction, then. Otherwise the audience is going to be lost. I haven't the foggiest clue who Photon/Spectrum is... and the trailer didn't do a thing to clear it up.

I mean, just look at the Guardians of the Galaxy trailer for a comparison. Nobody (outside of real fans) knew who they were... and the trailer did wonders in describing them so the audience knew who the film was going to be about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d96cjJhvlMA

A sequel to a movie I didn't particularly like, and also a sequel to a show I didn't watch.

Hmm...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The 2nd. She came after Captain Mar-Vell (who was technically in the first movie, but was a woman instead and might as well have been a totally different character)

WandaVision shows her "origin" story but she didn't really take up a superhero persona in that show.

Right, right. I meant the first female CM, my bad.

Tom_Joad posted...

That's nice, but she's got a superhero costume. So... what superhero is she? The trailer makes it seem like we should already know.

I'm guessing you skipped WandaVision? In the comics, she was exposed to extra-dimensional energy which caused her to mutate and gain powers. But in the MCU she gained powers due to the events of WandaVision.

The space station belongs to S.W.O.R.D. (Sentient Weapon Observation and Response Department) which was founded by Monica's mother. As for why they didn't help before now? Same reason every other hero doesn't help until after they're introduced in universe. It's best not to read too far into that stuff. It's not a perfect continuity

NoxObscuras posted...

I'm guessing you skipped WandaVision? In the comics, she was exposed to extra-dimensional energy which caused her to mutate and gain powers. But in the MCU she gained powers due to the events of WandaVision.

The space station belongs to S.W.O.R.D. (Sentient Weapon Observation and Response Department) which was founded by Monica's mother. As for why they didn't help before now? Same reason every other hero doesn't help until after they're introduced in universe. It's best not to read too far into that stuff. It's not a perfect continuity

I don't have Disney+, so I'm not watching any of the TV shows.

Marvel movies used to be of the sort where you didn't need to watch their television shows for the movies to make sense.

Now, though? I don't think they are follow their own standard anymore.

Tom_Joad posted...

Marvel movies used to be of the sort where you didn't need to watch their television shows for the movies to make sense.

That's because the previous shows weren't made by Marvel Studios. They've told us a few years ago that the shows and films would more directly connect.

lolife67 posted...

That's because the previous shows weren't made by Marvel Studios. They've told us a few years ago that the shows and films would more directly connect.

This.

They've been very open about the D+ shows being as much a part of the Multiverse Saga as the movies.

TomClark posted...

This.

They've been very open about the D+ shows being as much a part of the Multiverse Saga as the movies.

Well, good luck with that.

I don't think it'll work, because they're deliberately restricting their viewer-base by doing so.

Tom_Joad posted...

Well, good luck with that.

I don't think it'll work, because they're deliberately restricting their viewer-base by doing so.

Eh. What's the difference between having to spend 7.99 for a month of D+ and having to spend 7.99 to go to the cinema to see one of the flicks?

Tom_Joad posted...

Well, good luck with that.

I don't think it'll work, because they're deliberately restricting their viewer-base by doing so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E

Tom_Joad posted...

Well, good luck with that.

I don't think it'll work, because they're deliberately restricting their viewer-base by doing so.

Well, it's been working out ok so far. Dr. Strange 2 made over $900 million and it tied directly into WandaVision.

masterpug53 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E

Disney+ subscribers: 161 million subscribers (global)

Total number of movie tickets sold globally (2018 - pre-COVID): 1.3 BILLION

Talk about restricting your viewer-base.

No the MCU should never get dark and brooding. Go watch The Batman

Tom_Joad posted...

I don't have Disney+, so I'm not watching any of the TV shows.

Marvel movies used to be of the sort where you didn't need to watch their television shows for the movies to make sense.

Now, though? I don't think they are follow their own standard anymore.

The TV shows have been a huge part of phase 4. You're going to miss a lot if you willfully skip them.

In addition to Monica's origin, Wanda's entire motivation for doing what she did in Dr Strange 2, was because of WandaVision.

One of the Antagonists in Ant-Man 3 was introduced in Loki.

Kamala Khan, who is also in The Marvels, was introduced through her show Ms Marvel.

There's another MCU movie in the works that will include characters introduced in Hawkeye.

We've had confirmation that Captain America 4 is coming. Which will be confusing as hell for anyone that skipped The Falcon and The Winter Soldier.

And She-Hulk is supposed to be part of the next Avengers movie.

So yeah... If you still enjoy Marvel, you're doing yourself a disservice by skipping the shows. Because there's a lot of setup happening through those.

Tom_Joad posted...

Disney+ subscribers: 161 million subscribers (global)

Total number of movie tickets sold globally (2018 - pre-COVID): 1.3 BILLION

Talk about restricting your viewer-base.

If people were able to skip an MCU film and then watch the team-up film like Civil War or any of the Avengers films without their heads exploding, they'll be just fine watching this film. The inclusion of 2 characters from a show won't have people massively panning a sequel to one of the most successful movies of 2019.

Tom_Joad posted...

I don't have Disney+, so I'm not watching any of the TV shows.

Marvel movies used to be of the sort where you didn't need to watch their television shows for the movies to make sense.

Now, though? I don't think they are follow their own standard anymore.

The only reason older mcu shows didn't do that is because they were run by Netflix who didn't have as close a relationship with the movie people. The people making the movies never liked the netflix people and they chose to ignore all those shows. Disney plus shows get acknowledged in movies. Because they are directly created by Disney themselves.

I didn't really like the first one but this does looks far better than that. Not sure I'll go out of my way to see it but there's now some interest.

Think they should have not included fury in scenes. He has an upcoming show with a much difderent tone

Blue_Popo posted...

It doesn't need to be brooding and dark but marvel should try that once in a while.

Yeah, they should totally make movie like... Morbius. We saw how well that worked out.

This looks great

So it looks like the villain is wearing the other bangle that they were wondering about in the Ms. Marvel show

Daremo posted...

Yeah, they should totally make movie like... Morbius. We saw how well that worked out.

Or they could make logan

Winter soldier had a more serious tone and that went well

Blue_Popo posted...

Think they should have not included fury in scenes. He has an upcoming show with a much difderent tone

Why do you think that's actually Fury?

Tom_Joad posted...

Disney+ subscribers: 161 million subscribers (global)

Total number of movie tickets sold globally (2018 - pre-COVID): 1.3 BILLION

Talk about restricting your viewer-base.

... you ok over there?

number of tickets sold globally is also for all movies all the time, not just comparing the performance of movie A to streaming show B.

Even if the figure was just between two comparable products instead of THE ENTIRE MOVIE INDUSTRY to one streaming service, tickets sold are at minimum total viewers, but likely significantly more because many people see things they liked multiple times and every single person needs their own ticket.

Streaming service subscriptions will be significantly lower than the total number of viewers because it's generally one house hold with one subscription, who often shares with other households, and may host watch parties with friends / family, and the single subscription also covers multiple viewings pushing it even further away from the movie ticket sales number.

Searching "the marvels" on youtube was a mistake

dave_is_slick posted...

Why do you think that's actually Fury?

It could be a skrull, could be a multiverse variant, could be the marvels happens before secret invasion

But if I had to bet id say its nick fury and after secret invasion