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SwayM
04/19/23 5:04:57 PM
#102:


Gremlynn posted...
imagine you're playing a video game. The video game is secretly set to the highest difficulty for you, while everybody else is playing on normal. Everybody insists the game is set to normal, and you believe them. You see how much easier it is for them and they see how much more you are struggling and the only logical explanation is that you are either just fucking terrible at the game, or just aren't trying hard enough to be as good as them. Now you have an idea of what it's like growing up with an undiagnosed neurodivergance AND a good lead in to why there seems to be heavy overlap between these disorders and various depression / mood disorders.

This is a good analogy but I dont think just because someone struggles with something means its a full blown disorder. Everyone learns and understands things at a different rate.

NoxObscuras posted...
So... You don't see a problem with what you just said? At all? You're basically doing the same thing that parents do to their kids to avoid the stigma of mental illness. "You don't have a disorder, you just need to apply yourself more"

You're digging yourself deeper and deeper into that hole. Maybe you should stop?

You dont think I know myself and my own limitations. I know I could have been better at math if I cared at all and wasnt ridiculously lazy when it came to school work.

If I had been given this diagnosis as a kid, I also know it would have accelerated me giving up on math completely. It would have been just the excuse I needed to stop trying and blame it on something else.

Also do you know how often yall try to get everyone to stop arguing when you think youre right? Does it ever work? You think maybe you should stop?

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SHRlKE
04/19/23 5:08:06 PM
#103:


Gremlynn posted...
Yeah, so what Conflict said.

We ARE our brains. the way our brains function or don't function does indeed define who we are.

The hell are you even on about. I can only assume you posted cause you felt the need to post rather than having anything to say.


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RetsuZaiZen
04/19/23 5:10:51 PM
#104:


AnsestralRecall posted...
Clearly you've never experienced something like that or you wouldn't be mocking people who mention that
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It's absolutely a way that some people's anxiety can manifest.

Every touch, ever stray hair, every sound, all magnified to extreme levels. Everything is demanding the full attention of your nervous system and that fully overloads it.

Hope no one who cares about you has problems like this because it's clear you wouldn't care about them.

Relax. I'm talking about people who overdo it and more so people who don't legitimately have that specific issue but rather say that they do for attention.

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AnsestralRecall
04/19/23 5:12:56 PM
#105:


RetsuZaiZen posted...
Relax. I'm talking about people who overdo it and more so people who don't legitimately have that specific issue but rather say that they do for attention.

See my above post.

Why does it matter? How do you know they're faking it and is the assumption they are worth the risk that you are wrong? It doesn't affect you in any meaningful way so just move along
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RetsuZaiZen
04/19/23 5:14:14 PM
#106:


AnsestralRecall posted...
See my above post.

Why does it matter? How do you know they're faking it and is the assumption they are worth the risk that you are wrong? It doesn't affect you in any meaningful way so just move along
Obviously because I personally know these people.

Fuck kinda question is this?

And they're annoying. I'm not going around punching them in the face. I just give them shit.

Again, relax.

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Lost_All_Senses
04/19/23 5:15:01 PM
#107:


Real life victims of things are so obscured by wannabe victims these days. It's so god damn pathetic

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AnsestralRecall
04/19/23 5:18:15 PM
#109:


RetsuZaiZen posted...
Obviously because I personally know these people.

Fuck kinda question is this?

And they're annoying. I'm not going around punching them in the face. I just give them shit.

Again, relax.

Or you could leave them alone because it's easier to not be a jerk about something that doesn't affect you (minor annoyance isn't being affected)
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haloiscoolisbak
04/19/23 5:20:19 PM
#110:


I believe the vast majority of people who say they have a mental health disorder truly have one, but it's cringe how it's become such a flex for some people. It's all some people want to talk about

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Trumble
04/19/23 5:21:51 PM
#111:


AnsestralRecall posted...


I mentioned feeling concerned about the people that would "fake it" and bring negative attention to people that don't, and they said "Why does it even matter?"

They're possibly using it as a coping mechanism for some other issues in their life and there's nothing wrong with it.
Depending on how far they push it, they could be taking support away from those who genuinely need it. If they're shitty people, they could end up making those who do have the condition in question look bad - yes, I agree that this is a bad way to judge people, but that has zero bearing on the reality that this kind of judging happens.

And that's only going into the cases where it's the person themself faking it. When it's a parent or guardian, it can often end up stigmatizing the child for no reason (and again - doesn't matter if you or I think this shouldn't be stigmatized; the reality is that it is still stigmatized by many people), not to mention that it could very well be a tactic they're using to cover up bad parenting or even outright abuse. Yes, I have personally seen cases like this.

Once again, it should never be the default assumption, but where it does turn out to be the case it's definitely far from harmless.

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Lost_All_Senses
04/19/23 5:22:49 PM
#112:


haloiscoolisbak posted...
I believe the vast majority of people who say they have a mental health disorder truly have one, but it's cringe how it's become such a flex for some people. It's all some people want to talk about

I do still kind of feel bad that someone lacks outward personality so much they gotta pretend they have an ailment and make that their personality. I doubt anyone actually wants to be that person. If they could understand how to get help out of it and learn to be happy being themselves, they'd probably take it.

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RetsuZaiZen
04/19/23 5:23:09 PM
#113:


AnsestralRecall posted...
Or you could leave them alone because it's easier to not be a jerk about something that doesn't affect you (minor annoyance isn't being affected)

You're right. You've convinced me and I will completely change my ways.

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AnsestralRecall
04/19/23 5:25:03 PM
#114:


RetsuZaiZen posted...
You're right. You've convinced me and I will completely change my ways.

Wow, so glad you stopped being such a bully. The world is now greatly improved.
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NoxObscuras
04/19/23 5:27:30 PM
#115:


SwayM posted...
You dont think I know myself and my own limitations. I know I could have been better at math if I cared at all and wasnt ridiculously lazy when it came to school work.

If I had been given this diagnosis as a kid, I also know it would have accelerated me giving up on math completely. It would have been just the excuse I needed to stop trying and blame it on something else.

Also do you know how often yall try to get everyone to stop arguing when you think youre right? Does it ever work? You think maybe you should stop?
But the point of diagnosing learning disabilities isn't to tell someone that they should give up. Once the disability is properly identified, specialized learning strategies can be implemented to help those kids succeed where they were previously failing.

The whole point of calling it neurodivergent instead of abnormal is to foster the idea that it's not something negative or to be ashamed of. Neurodivergent people just have brains that function a little differently and require different approaches to reach the same level of success as neurotypical people.

Not sure why you've now somehow reached the conclusion that you would have been diagnosed with dyscalculia. There are specific things they look for when diagnosing disorders and disabilities. They aren't just cramming everyone that struggles at all into these categories.

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Scarecrow17
04/19/23 5:35:31 PM
#116:


This is low even for you, TC. Awful and disgusting topic.


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Supaitwo
04/19/23 6:11:36 PM
#117:


How is this topic still here?

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hockeybub89
04/19/23 6:15:28 PM
#118:


SwayM posted...
lol

Stop being so antagonistic
You're out here shitting on people with disorders. I'm offended because you're being antagonistic.

iPhone_7 posted...
Ive only seen this neurodivergent term mentioned online and mostly by obnoxious people on Twitter or Tik Tok who make their mental illness or their supposed mental Illness a central part of their identity.
It defines my entire identity. Every fiber of my personality and my belief system is impacted by my brain. Next time consider shutting the fuck up instead of smugly stating how you know nothing, yet are somehow the expert.

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fakefire
04/19/23 6:19:07 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/
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hockeybub89
04/19/23 6:22:23 PM
#121:


Trumble posted...
People who fake these things definitely exist (and it's not always the person themself; especially in children it's often the parents / caregivers), but they're the minority compared to those who legitimately have such conditions, and "they're faking it" should never be the default assumption.
It's the same mentality a lot of people take with sexual abuse accusations. It's really fucked up and I honestly blame the people who think this way more than the small minority of fakers that "give the legitimate people a bad name".

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Trumble
04/19/23 7:21:36 PM
#122:


hockeybub89 posted...
It's the same mentality a lot of people take with sexual abuse accusations. It's really fucked up and I honestly blame the people who think this way more than the small minority of fakers that "give the legitimate people a bad name".
It is, but ignoring it won't make it go away nor negate the harm it causes.

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SwayM
04/19/23 7:22:13 PM
#123:


NoxObscuras posted...
Not sure why you've now somehow reached the conclusion that you would have been diagnosed with dyscalculia. There are specific things they look for when diagnosing disorders and disabilities. They aren't just cramming everyone that struggles at all into these categories.

First Im talking hypotheticals, were talking about a reality that didnt happen and doesnt matter today.

Second. Youre the one that went off about it after I said Im shit at math, acting like this was a real diagnosis I was giving myself.

fakefire posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/fakedisordercringe/

Literally such a widespread problem theres a whole subreddit and hundreds of examples.

Yet on CE Im the asshole for bringing it up.

hockeybub89 posted...
You're out here shitting on people with disorders. I'm offended because you're being antagonistic.

Im literally not doing that. Calm down.


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Gremlynn
04/19/23 7:28:42 PM
#124:


SHRlKE posted...
The hell are you even on about. I can only assume you posted cause you felt the need to post rather than having anything to say.

If you can't understand what I said and how it is directly relevant to what you said, then holy shit read a goddamn book or two.

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haloiscoolisbak
04/19/23 7:39:44 PM
#125:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
I do still kind of feel bad that someone lacks outward personality so much they gotta pretend they have an ailment and make that their personality. I doubt anyone actually wants to be that person. If they could understand how to get help out of it and learn to be happy being themselves, they'd probably take it.


I don't think that many people pretend, I do think a lot of people suddenly feel they've got a pre loaded excuse for any toxic behaviour

Only speaking anecdotally but the last person I dated would blame her Bipolar and past trauma for everything she said or did that hurt me(and she had a vicious mouth) and took no accountability/ never apologised for nothing

It was enough for me, someone who has schizophrenia and used to enjoy openly talking about, to think twice about how we view mental health these days. My diagnosis was 10 years ago and I take pride in keeping it mostly private these days(it's also mostly dormant), hers was a few months before I met her, that might have something to do with it. It's all she talked about. Every time she said or did something ridiculous I told myself "it's not her fault, it's her Bipolar". Then when it ended I was left feeling really stupid and a total pushover

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AnsestralRecall
04/19/23 7:43:43 PM
#126:




what a disgusting subreddit
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Supaitwo
04/19/23 7:53:07 PM
#127:


Supaitwo posted...
How is this topic still here?


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Gremlynn
04/19/23 8:01:17 PM
#129:


SwayM posted...


Literally such a widespread problem theres a whole subreddit and hundreds of examples.

"it's so widespread that a website with a 1.5 billion person userbase has a tucked away corner with HUNDREDS of examples!"

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AI_TechGam3FAQS
04/19/23 8:02:41 PM
#130:


Neither for me
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