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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 9:40:15 AM
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Just beat it.
Wasn't that hard and I'm not even good at games. Only a couple spots gave me trouble. Mostly, you just have to be careful. How do we have major publications recommendeding easy...?

https://www.polygon.com/guides/23573104/dead-space-remake-difficulty-setting-story-easy-medium-hard-impossible

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TheSavageDragon
04/19/23 9:41:22 AM
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Because the average gaming journalist barely even touches a game before having to hand in their article due to deadlines.
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Irony
04/19/23 9:43:02 AM
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Pat beat it on hard and he sucks at games lmao

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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 9:43:20 AM
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Polygon isn't aimed at gamers
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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 9:44:00 AM
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TheSavageDragon posted...
Because the average gaming journalist barely even touches a game before having to hand in their article due to deadlines.
Still on them to be able to understand they're writing for gamers, not other journalists.

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BurmesePenguin
04/19/23 9:44:33 AM
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They wrote that article so suckers would link it and people would click it and give them ad revenue.
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ZevLoveDOOM
04/19/23 9:44:49 AM
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probably the same journalist who couldn't get past Cuphead's tutorial...
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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 9:45:08 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Still on them to be able to understand they're writing for gamers, not other journalists.
Who says they're writing for gamers?
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Irony
04/19/23 9:45:39 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
probably the same journalist who couldn't get past Cuphead's tutorial...
Probably the same journalist that got angry that Wolfenstein 2 made fun of him for picking tge lowest difficulty

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hockeybub89
04/19/23 9:46:16 AM
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I could not give less of a fuck what difficulty people play games on.

I beat it on normal and I don't know if I'd want to go harder

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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 9:47:08 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Who says they're writing for gamers?
Who are they writing for?

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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 9:49:13 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I could not give less of a fuck what difficulty people play games on.

I beat it on normal and I don't know if I'd want to go harder
Is there anying you don't state with conviction? Easy, guy.

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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 9:49:33 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Who are they writing for?
Their readers. Most of whom likely don't play a ton of games and as such don't consider themselves "gamers".
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Trelve
04/19/23 9:53:28 AM
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Remember when Polygon posted that video of their Doom gameplay?

https://youtu.be/7FD-uwu847Q

No wonder they can only play games on easy.
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ANort175
04/19/23 9:54:46 AM
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Caring about what difficulty other people play their games on is a bit like caring how other people eat their steak.

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epik_fail1
04/19/23 9:55:15 AM
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Gaming journalists often write their articles taking casual gamers into account. It's rarely for big gaming nerd like us

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Blue_Inigo
04/19/23 9:55:44 AM
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Did anyone actually read the article? It's not even a big deal. They're just saying how they feel that the amount of ammo you get per encounter on easy is just right compared to medium.

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DarkBuster22904
04/19/23 9:58:55 AM
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Who the hell cares? They felt easy was perfectly balanced; you're good enough that you can do better.

Of course big publications are going to play on easier modes. They have incredibly tight deadlines and need to see as much of the game as they can.

Moreover, it's high time the Difficulty Gatekeepers realize that they are the minority. Like, a tiny minority. "Gamer" isn't some niche anymore like it was in the 90s, damn near every household in the country has a console in it, and casual players massively outgun the Hardcore Elite. Every major publication is going to cater to them because that's where the numbers are. And no amount of Elden Ring anomalies is going to shake that. Want something catered to the "hardcore" crowd, find a YouTuber. Because a small operation is all that can afford to cater to a niche.

Gamers are casual. Time for us to get over it.

And no, saying "I'm not that good" means nothing. The minute you complain about "removing all challenge from a game," you are by default more hardcore than the actual casual crowd.

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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 9:59:36 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Their readers. Most of whom likely don't play a ton of games and as such don't consider themselves "gamers".
Casual gamers are still gamers. My reflexes and motor skills are crap, but I didn't really need them. Just had to be deliberate. Playing on easy is fine, if that's what you want to do, but I think it's strange we have major influences suggesting you remove any challenge from a game.

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Irony
04/19/23 10:00:07 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Casual gamers are still gamers.

Citation needed

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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 10:01:34 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Casual gamers are still gamers. My reflexes and motor skills are crap, but I didn't really need them. Just had to be deliberate. Playing on easy is fine, if that's what you want to do, but I think it's strange we have major influences suggesting you remove any challenge from a game.
This isn't removing any challenge from the gamwm it's matching the challenge to the gamer. Easy is still plenty challenging to most people.
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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 10:03:46 AM
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Irony posted...
Citation needed

Casual gamers

Bolded the part that gives it away so you don't have to search through all 2 words.

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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 10:04:13 AM
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Irony posted...
Citation needed
I like how he just glossed over the "don't consider themselves gamers" bit
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Irony
04/19/23 10:04:22 AM
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That's called a misnomer

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DipDipDiver
04/19/23 10:06:34 AM
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I can't speak for them, but I will say that I play games more for the adventure and discovery, and an interesting story, than for challenge. Like obviously I don't want it to be a complete cakewalk because that gets boring, but I prefer a game where I can be making constant forward progress over one where I have to keep dying at the same boss over and over.
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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 10:09:27 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
This isn't removing any challenge from the gamwm it's matching the challenge to the gamer. Easy is still plenty challenging to most people.
Is it?
My corpus collsum was damaged at birth. I have poor reflexes and needed PT learn to do things like write and ride a bike. I feel like most people, as long as they game, would be as capable or more than myself.

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hockeybub89
04/19/23 10:09:45 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Casual gamers

Bolded the part that gives it away so you don't have to search through all 2 words.
Some Gamers don't think you have a right to an opinion on a game if you don't beat it on ultra-hardcore in half the average playtime. It's like saying you have to score a 300 to claim bowling is fun.

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DKBananaSlamma
04/19/23 10:11:11 AM
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Sounds like polygon is a bunch of pussies lol

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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 10:13:31 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
Is it?
My corpus collsum was damaged at birth. I have poor reflexes and needed PT learn to do things like write and ride a bike. I feel like most people, as long as they game, would be as capable or more than myself.
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deoxxys
04/19/23 10:15:58 AM
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Lawl I remember on the original one on normal difficulty it was just fine it was the fear factor I had to get over.

On an indie game called Dead Estate which is a mix of binding of Isaac and resident evil, The easy mode is called "game journo" mode lol.

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deoxxys
04/19/23 10:17:20 AM
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ANort175 posted...
Caring about what difficulty other people play their games on is a bit like caring how other people eat their steak.
Well that's pretty important because it has no flavor if you overcook it.

Imagine hating steak growing up because your dad cooked the s*** out of them on the grill

Then all of a sudden your rich friend takes you to a steakhouse and you are like this is the most glorious thing I've ever eaten

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s0nicfan
04/19/23 10:21:14 AM
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At this point I would hope that anyone seriously looking for external opinions about a game has at least a few professional-tier YouTubers that they can turn towards that actually know what they're talking about, rather than relying on polygon journos who don't give a shit and wouldn't have enough time to care before the deadline even if they did.

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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 10:22:54 AM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
You underestimate how bad people can be at games even when they enjoy them.
I used to game online when more of my IRL friends did. Always at the bottom of the leader board and making my team/friends angry for sucking. I, in fact, suck at games. If one is less skilled than me or just wants to play on easy, that's cool. I certainly wouldn't suggest easy should be the default experience.


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faizan_faizan
04/19/23 10:30:10 AM
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Trelve posted...
Remember when Polygon posted that video of their Doom gameplay?

https://youtu.be/7FD-uwu847Q

No wonder they can only play games on easy.
Painful.

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RuneterranSnap
04/19/23 10:30:14 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
I used to game online when more of my IRL friends did. Always at the bottom of the leader board and making my team/friends angry for sucking. I, in fact, suck at games. If one is less skilled than me or just wants to play on easy, that's cool. I certainly wouldn't suggest easy should be the default experience.
You cannot get over the idea that you do not represent everyone and there are people worse than you.
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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 10:30:30 AM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Who the hell cares? They felt easy was perfectly balanced; you're good enough that you can do better.

Of course big publications are going to play on easier modes. They have incredibly tight deadlines and need to see as much of the game as they can.

Moreover, it's high time the Difficulty Gatekeepers realize that they are the minority. Like, a tiny minority. "Gamer" isn't some niche anymore like it was in the 90s, damn near every household in the country has a console in it, and casual players massively outgun the Hardcore Elite. Every major publication is going to cater to them because that's where the numbers are. And no amount of Elden Ring anomalies is going to shake that. Want something catered to the "hardcore" crowd, find a YouTuber. Because a small operation is all that can afford to cater to a niche.

Gamers are casual. Time for us to get over it.

And no, saying "I'm not that good" means nothing. The minute you complain about "removing all challenge from a game," you are by default more hardcore than the actual casual crowd.
But I don't like the hardcore crowd. If they wanted to play the game on easy for whatever reason, that's cool. I'm not gate keeping. My only issue is that they suggest that easy is the best way for most people to play.

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Quorthon109
04/19/23 10:41:20 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Did anyone actually read the article? It's not even a big deal. They're just saying how they feel that the amount of ammo you get per encounter on easy is just right compared to medium.

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DipDipDiver
04/19/23 10:55:21 AM
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GeraldDarko posted...
But I don't like the hardcore crowd. If they wanted to play the game on easy for whatever reason, that's cool. I'm not gate keeping. My only issue is that they suggest that easy is the best way for most people to play.
They also explained why they felt that way, I don't really see why that's an issue to you if they felt that was the most balanced way to play. It's not stopping anyone from cranking up the difficulty
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GeraldDarko
04/19/23 10:56:26 AM
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^^^
It says that your ammo and healing are more effective because you give more damage and receive less, not that there is simply more ammo lying around. Need more ammo? Go to the store, you get plenty of credits.

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