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ViewtifulJoe
05/04/23 5:14:53 AM
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I watched a video on Xenogears. It was kinda cool I guess.
I played Xenoblade 1, I like it a lot.
I watched playthroughs of Xenoblade 2 and 3. Not for me but I can appreciate parts.

Is Xenosaga worth the time investment?

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goatthief
05/04/23 5:15:26 AM
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What's worse the fool or the one who follows him?

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Senta
05/04/23 5:17:35 AM
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No. As much as I love the games, the characters and the story..

It went through so much development hell, that it is not worth it as a new player/first time player. Not after so long. Still a beautiful looking series though when you upscale it. Amazes me that it can look so good, having been PS2.

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Ricemills
05/04/23 5:55:09 AM
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Ep 3 perhaps, but 1 and 2 were such a chore.

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yusiko
05/04/23 5:57:32 AM
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episode 1 and 3 are amazing
episode 2 has a lot of issues but its only 28 hours which is short for an rpg
so yes xenosaga overall is really good

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Irony
05/04/23 6:53:18 AM
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No

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Poorly
05/04/23 7:07:03 AM
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Cos-mos

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Jiek_Fafn
05/04/23 8:13:52 AM
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Yes, but no
The plot is good, but often overly convoluted. There are a ton of different characters. Some just mentioned. Some seen. It's often hard to keep track of. There is an in game database to help, but it's not entirely necessary to enjoy the plot. Theres a lot of lore, which is cool.

I will say that Albedo is one of the best antagonists in a jrpg ever. Dude is legitimately terrifying. He's like an upgraded Kefka. His English VA does a fantastic job.

1 is short but has a cutscene every few minutes. Youre mostly watching a movie. The gameplay is pretty slow, so the battles themself are longer than they need to be. The underlying gameplay is actualy pretty normal. Just YouTube it imo.

2 has an even slower battle system. It's outright not fun the majority of the time. It's kind of cool for bosses because they feel like a real battle, but random encounters are needlessly prolonged too. The secret super bosses are some of the most satusfying in the genre. Theyre all actually difficult without needing weird mdchanics work arounds. You can probably just YouTube this one too though.

3 doesn't have as many movie cut scenes because they seemingly couldn't afford them. They're replaced with text ones. Most of those are voiced iirc. The battle system in this one is actually really solid. Its more of a traditional rpg system with some added tweaks. If you've made it this far into the series, you'll definitely want to play this one. It manages to wrap up the 100 different plots going on. Some not as satisfyingly as others, but they're addressed.

Also there's another little side game. Pied Piper, I think. I believe it was for mobile maybe. Read a plot summary after the first or second game. Otherwise, youll be very confused by a couple characters interactions

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yusiko
05/04/23 10:41:51 AM
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shion uzuki is my all time favorite jrpg main character
but man did it used to be hard to be a shion fan, the internet hated her with a passion. 20 years ago if oyu said anything positive about the character 30 people would pop up to tell you she sucks
but more and more ive noticed people have begun reevaluating her character and she is much better received these days
honestly one of the most inteesting, complex and well developed leads in the genres history

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Nemu
05/04/23 10:44:35 AM
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I remember having fun, but I feel like it's a game that would probably need a fastforward button for a lot of the dungeons for me to want to do it again.
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tripleh213
05/04/23 11:15:46 AM
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Irony posted...
No


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furb
05/04/23 11:19:06 AM
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I love the first and last game.

Middle one is possibly my biggest game disappointment ever

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Verdekal
05/04/23 11:20:03 AM
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Think I gave up when one cutscene went on for about 20 minutes.

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Kamil
05/04/23 11:21:42 AM
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Xenosaga II is so weird in a good way. I got stuck on a boss fight and never kept going with it. But it has such a detached from reality feel. I heard 3 was the best. 1 was aight but you do watch almost a full length movie at times there haha

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Ricemills
05/04/23 11:23:43 AM
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Verdekal posted...
Think I gave up when one cutscene went on for about 20 minutes.

Even more ridiculous when said cutscene was supposed to be an emergency situation when they were under attack by the aliens, but this one guy wasting 15+ minutes monologuing his hatred towards cloned people.

Episode 1 could be good if there's less cutscenes.

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Kamil
05/04/23 11:29:15 AM
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Didja know there was supposed to be six of these? Probably why 1 did a Phantom Menance.

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yusiko
05/04/23 12:03:27 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Even more ridiculous when said cutscene was supposed to be an emergency situation when they were under attack by the aliens, but this one guy wasting 15+ minutes monologuing his hatred towards cloned people.

Episode 1 could be good if there's less cutscenes.


no the amount of cutscenes was just fine
it sold itself as a very narrative heavy game and it told an amazing story over the trilogy

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yusiko
05/04/23 12:04:36 PM
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Kamil posted...
Didja know there was supposed to be six of these? Probably why 1 did a Phantom Menance.


yes but episode 2 did so poorly that it killed the planned episode 4 5 and 6
but episode 3 was always intended to be the end of shions story arc
episode 4 would have had a massive time skip and a whole new cast with only KOSMOS being in all 4 games
so everything they wanted to resolve got resolved and the trilogy feels complete

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dummy420
05/04/23 12:06:34 PM
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2 killed the momentum so I never got to play 3. I wish they re released them somewhere

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MC_BatCommander
05/04/23 12:08:04 PM
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dummy420 posted...
2 killed the momentum so I never got to play 3. I wish they re released them somewhere

This pretty much. I enjoyed 1 despite its flaws, and instead of improving on it with the sequel they produced a way worse game I never finished

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Smiffwilm
05/04/23 12:09:10 PM
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I liked it. That said...

1 and 2 are hard to go back to gameplay-wise. I really wouldn't blame anyone for watching a let's play of them instead, then jumping into 3.

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pauIie
05/04/23 12:10:28 PM
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as a big gears fan it was hard to admit the series was mid when it first came out.

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Blue_Inigo
05/04/23 12:10:47 PM
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Nah they're really not good games and KOS-MOS is bland as hell but with a cool design. God bless Xenoblade

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Kamil
05/04/23 12:11:07 PM
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I should try 3. Probably costs a ton now though.

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yusiko
05/04/23 12:16:19 PM
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pauIie posted...
as a big gears fan it was hard to admit the series was mid when it first came out.


i actually played gears for the first time like 2 months ago
did not like it as much as xenosaga
gears has a good story but i prefer sagas. and gears has some of the worst dungeons designs ive ever seen like 3 different dungeons of identical hallways


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yusiko
05/04/23 12:17:57 PM
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Kamil posted...
I should try 3. Probably costs a ton now though.


it sells from anywhere betwen 300 to 1599'99

here is a copy for $1300

https://www.amazon.ca/Xenosaga-Episode-III-PlayStation-2/dp/B000G82R20/ref=sr_1_2?

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Bass
05/04/23 12:20:31 PM
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Yeah, 3 was always expensive since I've been tracking it. I got it at some local game store about 5 years ago, or more now, for roughly $150. At least I found a copy of 2 for $10 at Target!

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Kamil
05/04/23 12:24:31 PM
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I saw it for around 40/50 a long time ago at Gamestop and I was just like well I never finished 2 soooo. I shoulda bought it though. I just have Xenosaga II. I still have the first but it's greatest hits edition.

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ironman2009
05/04/23 12:26:07 PM
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Xenosaga123 might be the worst poster in internet history

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SpiritSephiroth
05/04/23 12:29:21 PM
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I loved the series. 2 was the worst one, but still a really unique enjoyable experience. It has stayed with me throughout my life and really want remakes, although that's wishful thinking.

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dummy420
05/04/23 12:44:16 PM
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I actually have a copy of 3 still sealed somewhere.

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Kamil
05/04/23 12:46:15 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
Xenosaga123 might be the worst poster in internet history

She is crazy some. I found her on the Soul Hackers 2 board. A game I actually did like quite a bit though I bought it way after launch and on sale at Best Buy.

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yusiko
05/04/23 12:49:11 PM
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many years ago i did a shion solo challenge run through the trilogy and i lost to the gargoyle boss 29 times
im redoing that challenge run again for the second time and this time gargoyle only beat me 7 times
so ive made progress in my xeno skills

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Kamil
05/04/23 12:53:42 PM
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Playing Xenosaga II is like playing LSD a dream simulator for the PSX but with difficult boss fights. I played it, but I feel like it was a weird dream.

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vycebrand2
05/04/23 1:07:53 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Even more ridiculous when said cutscene was supposed to be an emergency situation when they were under attack by the aliens, but this one guy wasting 15+ minutes monologuing his hatred towards cloned people.

Episode 1 could be good if there's less cutscenes.
And didnt spend 50% of the game on the ship wandering around halls

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ViewtifulJoe
05/04/23 2:47:18 PM
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Definitely sounds like a Youtube job. But I am intrigued.
Zohar has been a very welcome addition to my funny sounding words list.

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Blue_Inigo
05/04/23 2:49:11 PM
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The soul of Mary Magdelene

Bruh

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Poorly
05/04/23 9:31:39 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Definitely sounds like a Youtube job. But I am intrigued.
Zohar has been a very welcome addition to my funny sounding words list.
Zohar=Zanza=Z

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Blue_Inigo
05/04/23 9:49:13 PM
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Poorly posted...
Zohar=Zanza=Z
Oh shit

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Nosferatu_Zodd
05/04/23 9:52:10 PM
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yusiko posted...
episode 1 and 3 are amazing
episode 2 has a lot of issues but its only 28 hours which is short for an rpg
so yes xenosaga overall is really good

This

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obsolete
05/04/23 10:00:44 PM
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Watch the series on youtube. No, I'm being serious.
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Poorly
05/04/23 10:40:00 PM
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obsolete posted...
Watch the series on youtube. No, I'm being serious.
Old but not obsolete

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Garioshi
05/05/23 7:42:38 PM
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Xenosaga 1 was absolutely horrendous to play. Not as bad as Xenogears, but still horrendous.

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