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VirtuousWrath
05/13/23 11:32:34 PM
#51:


If you're not working age, you're not voting age. Simple as.

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Irony
05/13/23 11:37:09 PM
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No but I'd be ok with requiring cognitive test to be eligible

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GeraldDarko
05/14/23 12:21:22 AM
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To those saying no, that's the exact opposite of an equitable society.
It would be interesting to see how you rationalize "well, not me..." when you get to be that age.

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VampireCoyote
05/14/23 12:22:36 AM
#55:


I dont think that democracy works

i mean its a nice idea sure

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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 12:25:54 AM
#56:


Just make them pay $100k to cast their vote, so their wealth gets redistributed
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Ivany2008
05/14/23 12:34:03 AM
#57:


I'm Canadian. I have been asking for a max voting/driving age for years now. I've also been asking for a maximum age of election as well. There is no reason to have someone who is 70 years old as Prime Minister or in the case of America, President. At the very least they should force you to take a basic knowledge test to see if you understand each voteable candidate, instead of just putting a name on a ballad.

I'll also point out that our Canadian elections are far more fucked up than American elections. We don't elect a Prime Minister. We elect someone in our district, and there are god knows how many districts in each province, and whoever has the majority seats wins the seat as PM. It's completely fucked.

The only reason I feel this way is because many of the older generation, at least where I live are looking at things with outdated views. And that shit has caused Stephen fucking Harper to be PM for nearly 10 years, or at least that's what I feel. Anyone with half a brain could look at that man and say wtf are you doing in office. John Oliver even did a piece on him. Trudeau isn't much better, but he is better.
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Tenlaar
05/14/23 12:35:12 AM
#58:


The reward for spending a lifetime paying taxes and reaching retirement age should not be disenfranchisement. Its frankly ridiculous that so many people are in favor of it.
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NapoleonToo
05/14/23 12:45:53 AM
#59:


Error1355 posted...
I would be heavily against removing representation of adults, even if I dislike their political opinions.

So no, I would not be okay with a maximum voting age.


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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 12:46:39 AM
#60:


Tenlaar posted...
The reward for spending a lifetime paying taxes and reaching retirement age should not be disenfranchisement. Its frankly ridiculous that so many people are in favor of it.
It wouldn't need to be if so many old people didn't have the "fuck you, got mine" attitude
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Tenlaar
05/14/23 12:49:17 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
It wouldn't need to be if so many old people didn't have the "fuck you, got mine" attitude
It doesnt matter, wanting to take away peoples votes because you dont like how they use them is some straight up fascist shit.
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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 12:50:58 AM
#62:


Tenlaar posted...
It doesnt matter, wanting to take away peoples votes because you dont like how they use them is some straight up fascist shit.
Except that those people are actively promoting and spending billions/trillions to implement fascist shit, so if they had their vote taken away it actually ends up being less fascist in the end
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hockeybub89
05/14/23 12:52:04 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
It doesnt matter, wanting to take away peoples votes because you dont like how they use them is some straight up fascist shit.
I agree. Lower the voting age to 7.

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NightingaleMD
05/14/23 12:52:59 AM
#64:


Over 25
Under 65

Everyone else is too high risk to be dependent, disabled or both to have a meaningful opinion in national matters.

I'm a big fan of vivek ramaswamy. I like his idea of 25 for voting but 18 if military service. Wanna vote? Serve your country.

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MrAntisocial
05/14/23 12:55:57 AM
#65:


NecroFoul99 posted...
The only restrictions Id like is a restriction for stupid people, but thats half the voting pool, so thatll never happen.

Besides, whoever chooses what criteria qualifies for stupid people would probably somehow qualify me, so

This is what Jim Crow era restrictions sought to impose and magically ended up excluding a certain demographic.

With that said, as much as I would love to support voting restrictions for people with conditions like Alzheimer's I can't imagine how we would implement such restrictions without unintended consequences

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CADE_FOSTER
05/14/23 1:01:00 AM
#66:


Error1355 posted...
I would be heavily against removing representation of adults, even if I dislike their political opinions.

So no, I would not be okay with a maximum voting age.
This the gop magas want to raise the min age to vote to 25 fuck that
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NES4EVER
05/14/23 1:05:57 AM
#67:


Ivany2008 posted...
I'm Canadian. I have been asking for a max voting/driving age for years now. I've also been asking for a maximum age of election as well. There is no reason to have someone who is 70 years old as Prime Minister or in the case of America, President. At the very least they should force you to take a basic knowledge test to see if you understand each voteable candidate, instead of just putting a name on a ballad.

I'll also point out that our Canadian elections are far more fucked up than American elections. We don't elect a Prime Minister. We elect someone in our district, and there are god knows how many districts in each province, and whoever has the majority seats wins the seat as PM. It's completely fucked.

The only reason I feel this way is because many of the older generation, at least where I live are looking at things with outdated views. And that shit has caused Stephen fucking Harper to be PM for nearly 10 years, or at least that's what I feel. Anyone with half a brain could look at that man and say wtf are you doing in office. John Oliver even did a piece on him. Trudeau isn't much better, but he is better.

Wow this is all over the place, and not doing you any favors in your argument.

Also, its ballot, not ballad. But if you wanna sing a love song about Jagmeet Singh then i wont be the one to stop you.

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Tenlaar
05/14/23 1:07:35 AM
#68:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Except that those people are actively promoting and spending billions/trillions to implement fascist shit, so if they had their vote taken away it actually ends up being less fascist in the end
My fascism isnt as bad as theirs is a pretty shit argument.
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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 1:48:57 AM
#69:


Tenlaar posted...
My fascism isnt as bad as theirs is a pretty shit argument.
nah its observable
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Tenlaar
05/14/23 2:53:33 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
nah its observable
You are actively promoting fascist shit the same as the people you are criticizing. Look in the mirror and re-examine yourself.
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pikakaeru
05/14/23 2:54:12 AM
#71:


fuck no
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Arcanine2009
05/14/23 3:17:06 AM
#72:


If we're talking about people voting, no.

But elected officials? Yes.

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Ivany2008
05/14/23 3:37:04 AM
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NES4EVER posted...
Wow this is all over the place, and not doing you any favors in your argument.

Also, its ballot, not ballad. But if you wanna sing a love song about Jagmeet Singh then i wont be the one to stop you.

Part of me was joking, but the other part was being serious. Where I live, the older generation have very outdated views on how to run the province we live in, and they are the only ones being elected into office. We had sparingly younger people voted into office, which were immediately veto'd by said members of council. I wish I were joking about that. It's gotten so bad, that our province was the only province in the past 5 years to have a decline in population, and I will be one of that many once I get some experience in my field of study.

As for Harper, he's just an idiot. Most people in my province hate the guy as his decisions while in office cost a lot of people their livelihood. He focused so much on his own province and left most of the rest of the country on the back burner.

I want to see more people under the age of 40 in positions of power in my province. I think it would do my province a lot of good. We've only had older officials in my area, and they don't do anything. They ignore the issues in favor of expensive solutions that still aren't up and running. We still have laws that haven't been updated in nearly 40 years.
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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 4:59:04 AM
#74:


Tenlaar posted...
the same as the people you are criticizing.
not even slightly remotely close. not even in the same universe. there is no scenario where a boomer losing the right to vote when they are senile is "as bad" as what a boomer wants to do to fuck over younger generations
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thronedfire2
05/14/23 5:02:27 AM
#75:


NightingaleMD posted...
Over 25
Under 65

Everyone else is too high risk to be dependent, disabled or both to have a meaningful opinion in national matters.

I'm a big fan of vivek ramaswamy. I like his idea of 25 for voting but 18 if military service. Wanna vote? Serve your country.

not surprising coming from you


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Relient_K
05/14/23 7:25:56 AM
#76:


While there is a logic of sorts to it (after a certain age you aren't invested in the future of the nation in the same way) all citizens should have a voice.

I'd actually be cool with lowering the age to 16. It would be cool to have voting being a part of a participation in government course. Teach them how to learn about the stances of the different representatives or other figures on the ballot to make informed decisions. Maybe an assignment to choose someone on the ballot and talk about what they are running on.

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bluezero
05/14/23 7:28:04 AM
#77:


Incurso91 posted...
Age limits on voting? No.

Age limits on being in office? Yes.


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Tenlaar
05/14/23 8:28:48 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
not even slightly remotely close. not even in the same universe. there is no scenario where a boomer losing the right to vote when they are senile is "as bad" as what a boomer wants to do to fuck over younger generations
Senile has not been part of it until just now. You have been arguing that people should lose the right to vote because you dont like how they use it. It is literally the exact same.
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g980
05/14/23 8:34:56 AM
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Wild how mask-off the ageism is itt

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--Zero-
05/14/23 8:43:18 AM
#80:


Nah, but Im all for doing a short quiz with the purpose of understanding what youre voting for. Or even just removing parties from the ballots so people dont blindly vote for candidates they know nothing about and only because of their party.

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K181
05/14/23 8:44:04 AM
#81:


No. If youre a terminally ill, 110-year old, you still deserve the right to vote.

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--Zero-
05/14/23 8:55:39 AM
#82:


When youre 65 and older youll really want to vote for your rights.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 9:19:58 AM
#84:


Tenlaar posted...
Senile has not been part of it until just now. You have been arguing that people should lose the right to vote because you dont like how they use it. It is literally the exact same.
whatever it takes to convince yourself, because you aren't convincing me
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Tenlaar
05/14/23 9:21:28 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
whatever it takes to convince yourself, because you aren't convincing me
Im not surprised, people who support fascist shit always think theirs is justified.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/14/23 9:23:18 AM
#86:


Incurso91 posted...
Age limits on voting? No.

Age limits on being in office? Yes.
This

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Dark_Spiret
05/14/23 9:39:25 AM
#87:


25 for everything. id support that.
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Kloe_Rinz
05/14/23 10:28:25 AM
#88:


Tenlaar posted...
Im not surprised, people who support fascist shit always think theirs is justified.
nah
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SSMajinVegeta2
05/14/23 10:38:02 AM
#89:


EmilyTheCEman posted...
As a Democrat, even if that meant Republicans would never win again, FUCK no. Holy shit voting is literally all we have. There should be MORE voting rights, not less.


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GrandConjuraton
05/14/23 10:47:29 AM
#90:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
it would mean no more Republicans win
So, a win for America.

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Compsognathus
05/14/23 10:58:38 AM
#91:


Once you can vote, nothing should prevent you from voting ever again. It doesn't matter if you are on death row, a different country or anything else.

The only real age limit that should exist is a max age you can run for office. That should be set at the social security age.

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Sad_Face
05/14/23 11:20:33 AM
#92:


I don't see the value in putting a cap on a person's age in voting. If I am an old man, a grandfather who successfully raised a generation that successfully raised another generation of persons contributing to society, I have stake in the game, a vested interest in society (the future of my family) so I'd want to have a voice in how the government runs the society I live in. And the government is benefiting directly from the fruits of my labor via taxes and whatever impacts my descendants make.

What I am against is having a career as a politician, especially one that is making laws for a field they have zero stake in the overall success of. This will require an all new architecture of a governmental system and I obviously don't have the answers (what constitutes as stake, how do you measure overall success) but there's too much friction in the system. A lawmaker is completely clueless on a new field and their first ears are lobbyists and people with an agenda. In fact this has happened last year in the crypto industry. FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried advised congressmen for the US' policy on crypto when his advice mostly benefited his exchange only and tried to sabotage the overall health for the industry in the US.

And flipping back to the career as a politician, I don't believe you should be making laws without putting in contributions to society (before you get to govern or law make) and you don't get to have the opportunity to do so for a lifetime.

Ideally I believe that whether through lawmaking or voting, the most important part is that you have stake in the game, as in you have something to lose if you fail to make the correct decision for the field, group, or industry you're influencing. This way people are more incentivized to work towards decisions that benefit the society as a whole as opposed to making decisions that value the individual but has detrimental societal consequences down the line. Prediction markets are an easy example of showcasing the success of this thought process in the market's collective winning records.

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RchHomieQuanChi
05/14/23 11:35:19 AM
#93:


No, and I also think the minimum voting age should be lowered.

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Agent_Stroud
05/14/23 12:57:01 PM
#95:


Error1355 posted...
I would be heavily against removing representation of adults, even if I dislike their political opinions.

So no, I would not be okay with a maximum voting age.

This is why I like having you as Allens second banana among the mod team, Error.

While we may disagree on certain controversial subjects, I can still trust you to remain somewhat neutral where it actually counts, which regrettably isnt nearly as commonplace as it once was these days.

Keep up the good work, Boss!

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hockeybub89
05/14/23 2:02:04 PM
#96:


I sure hope anyone who supports raising the voting age supports no one under that age paying taxes. Better also raise the drinking, smoking, marriage, joining the military, etc ages. Everyone under the voting age should be legally recognized as a child.

You cannot in any way justify someone being a tax-paying adult, working full-time, possibly married with children, not being worthy of their right to vote.

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Neo
05/14/23 11:31:04 PM
#97:


Hard no to a maximum age. That would be a violation of the 26th Amendment.

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FortuneCookie
05/14/23 11:49:21 PM
#98:


That would be age discrimination.

What we need is for young people to value the vote as much as old people do. We have within our power the ability to shape this nation, but too many make excuses or feel that they shouldn't have to vote.

Instead of telling a 75-year-old to stay home, we should be telling 25-year-olds to get out of their homes and vote.
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BettyWhite
05/14/23 11:58:31 PM
#99:


We can put that into effect after we die.

God damn it, one day we can be the old people! Don't go dooming us to the politics of the babies of today. Them and their... newfangled ways.

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