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I quite enjoyed tinkering with the settlements, and I liked the style of 3/NV already.

Better than fallout 1 and 3 imo

Yay. Fun game, shite story.

Played the hell out of it, but never finished the main campaign. I love the exploration factor, but just didnt find the story particularly engaging, I guess.

Still, solid Yay! vote.

I enjoyed it well enough although I never finished it.

https://youtu.be/OWPhg_eyv1s

Broken settler ai but fun with mods

I thought it was the great

The best entry in the Fallout Series. It was so fun and there's so much do to. Has so many quality of life improvements that make the older games a series more of a chore to play

Couldn't give less of a shit about the settlements or crafting, but loved the game and got 1000/1000.

The worst main series fallout by far

The combat and gunplay was easily the best of the Bethesda Fallout's and the world was mostly fun to explore and fuck around in.

In terms of story, lore and characters, definitely worse than New Vegas by a wide margin, but I'd probably rank it higher than 3.

Overall, it's a perfectly enjoyable experience, especially with the right mod setup.

Least favorite Fallout I've played, still pretty fun. The writing was just so embarrassingly bad and the RPG elements were, at best, tacked on. But hey, it had an interesting world to dank around with even if it was slightly less deep than Mount Everest.

It was so bad I couldn't finish it. New Vegas was vastly superior

I really tried to like the Fallout series, it just isn't for me. Same with Elder Scrolls.

The forced roleplay that you're a parent trying to find your kid is dumb as hell, rather than letting you create your own story in the apocalyptic wasteland like NV. Awful writing great gameplay.

trappedunderice posted...

The forced roleplay that you're a parent trying to find your kid is dumb as hell, rather than letting you create your own story in the apocalyptic wasteland like NV. Awful writing great gameplay.

I hear people say this on forums often and I totally disagree

Sure it doesn't have to be a kid but you absolutely need a reason to explain why the player character gives a fuck about what's going on

Every other Fallout Game did this.

1: You need a water chip or your vault dies
2. You need a GECK or your village/family dies
3.You're a child searching for their parent.
Tactics: The BOS (who are stranded because their ship crashed) hired you and you're doing what they say because your life in the wastes as a tribal was so shit, this is superior. You have to do what they tell you to do.
4.You're a parent looking for their kid

Every single one explains why you're in a set area and invested in the struggles, refusing to leave regardless of your characters morality. You have an agenda

Fallout NV's Courier literally makes no sense. He's lived in the desert for decades yet has no friends, no impact on anything and nobody knows him. So he's an utterly boring motherfucker of no importance who has had a dull job.

Then he got rolled by 3 random dudes (even you're a badass?) and shot in the head.... And his response is suddenly "Well better go chase after the guy who shot me for some fucking reason. Then randomly get involved in a upcoming slapfight for 0 reason where every NPC acts like I'm the chosen one to solve all their problems"

So you're a really boring dull weak motherfucker who had no impact on anything or family or friends or really a home for decades... Yet you're also weirdly passionate about revenge for near death and getting invovled in a fight that has nothing to do with you for no reason?

I think if I invented 103 vastly different character personalities with that backstory, 100 of them would instantly react by some varation of reaching the same "Fuck, glad I'm not dead. This upcoming war is a bummer and this place sucks. So I should leave, immediately" conclusion

To roleplay as a character with that backstory you have to roleplay as the weirdest, most dull, inconsistent schizophrenic...Or not engage with the game.

Sure "you have a kid and care about your kis" forces elements of personality on your character, but it's all completely reasonable and not big asks. Going back to my previous example, If I made 103 characters I'd imagine 85+ would care about their kid.

Fallout NV actively asks you to ignore half the plot, ignore all agency and just roll with it not making sense because it's a video game. It's the least immersive game in the series in that respect (I haven't played 76)

I really believe people just give it slack because it's Obsidian and give Fallout 3/4 flack because it's Bethesda.

If NV started with Benny kidnapping your son and 4 started with Kellogg shooting you in the head, I think alternate universe you would be arguing the total 180 about the roleplay aspect

"Why does my character care about Kellogg/The factions? NV was way better with us trying to find our Son!"

DarthAragorn posted...

The worst main series fallout by far

terrible opinion

Much like Skyrim, vanilla Fallout 4 was not good. Modded F4 was ok.

Its a good game but so much of the content is in the downtown Boston area and the game ALWAYS crashes like crazy in those zones no matter what mods you use or even with no mods

It's fun once you accept it isn't an RPG.

Ngl I was a sucker for the settlement/base creator except it looks like dogshit now compared to something more aesthetically pleasing like Subnautica.

I really like it. At first I didnt, but it grew on me. The easy mod support is fun, too. Its now my favorite Fallout game, which is one of my favorite series.

CADE_FOSTER posted...

terrible opinion

Which one would you rank below it? Hint, 3 is the only acceptable option, and it's still wrong

A major disappointment relative to NV narratively, but it added some good mechanics.

So for a sequel to NV, it was a disappointment, but it was still a fun/good game. Just not as fun/good as it should have been.

It was my most played PS4 game for like 4 years in a row. Even now I occasionally find stuff I never knew about. The glitches can be annoying though.