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Mattson needs an American CEO.
That CEO is Tom.
Tom chooses Mattson over the Roys, abandons Shiv and the baby, but brings Greg along because Greg has been talking positive about him to Mattson.

The Roy kids get fucked. Shiv gets screwed by everyone. Kendall loses not only power but his family along the way, becoming his dad but without a company. Don't really have a prediction for Roman other than he continues to fuck himself over.

Or Kendall wins and keeps Tom in a high position to spite Shiv, and burns Roman.

It's probably gonna be something I'd never think of tbh. Show is so good

i dont really like it. Barely made it through season 1

solosnake posted...

i dont really like it. Barely made it through season 1

That sucks. It's the best show on TV right now and it's about to end.

solosnake posted...

i dont really like it. Barely made it through season 1

lol

I think basically everyone will win in some way. An overarching message of the show is that nothing actually takes these rich assholes down and they will always win. Every season has ended on a big note and then the following season premiere has basically reset the status quo. Nothing has actually happened in this show. Kendall killing someone? Zero consequences. Kendall publicly going to war with dad? Dad stays in power and Kendall keeps a position at the company. Dad selling the company? Actually they just totally dropped that plotline lol. The Pierce deal hasn't been mentioned since episode 1 of season 4.

My predictions:

Tom is the proposed American CEO Mattson and Mencken agree on

Kendall wins in the end but it's hollow, with him distant from his children and alienated from his siblings. His arc this season is him becoming more and more like Logan and this would make the transformation complete.

I'm 50/50 on whether Mencken actually becomes president-elect or not. Something in the previous episode on a news report in the background said something about a ruling to recount the burnt ballots, so I think that fucks him and ATN. Or alternatively he actually wins power and fucks over the family because he's a fascist and can't be trusted.

Greg winds up with nothing.

Stewy will steal whichever scene he's in, as usual.

Smashingpmkns posted...

That sucks. It's the best show on TV right now and it's about to end.

If Succession is the best show on TV right now, then we need this writers' strike to continue and the actors to join them in striking.

It's not bad mind you, but it isn't a masterpiece. Not a single person in the show is likable. They are all disgusting human beings. Their antics of subterfuge against each other are quite idiotic. None of them can seemingly make up their minds of who they are or aren't. There doesn't appear any important stakes... who (in the audience) cares if they lose the company or lose out on money?

If I had to pick a series finale to watch tonight if I was only allowed one finale, it would be the Barry one.

HBO tends to have this amazing ability for me to like people in a show at first but then, by the end of the show, shift the characters so much that I hope that almost every single character dies tragically. Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, Succession, Six Feet Under, Deadwood, and many more come to mind.

WTGHookshot posted...

Not a single person in the show is likable.

You say that like it's a bad thing

I love watching these coddled rich psychos stumble around each other

Doom_Art posted...

You say that like it's a bad thing

I love watching these coddled rich psychos stumble around each other

For me, it is a bad thing. If they aren't likable (and I don't mean they have to be "good guys"... someone like Barry Berkman, Sally Reed, Gene Cousineau, Walter White, Jesse Pinkman, Saul Goodman, Dexter Morgan, Nucky Thompson, Tony Soprano, and many others, aren't "good guys" but they are good characters that are interesting to follow), it's hard for me to get invested in a show. These coddled rich psychos aren't even good characters from my perspective. They aren't interesting. They aren't "fun." Even wishing them their comeuppance feels wasted as they aren't interesting enough to care about them being handed their just desserts.

I can't watch until Tuesday because the gf will be out of town. I just know TikTok is going to spoil it for her like Conner's Wedding a few weeks back

None of the characters are people I would want to be friends with but they're definitely likeable within the context of the show. Kind of the same with Walter White. I'm still rooting for characters even if they're god awful people.

Also Greg and Tom are objectively likeable.

Smashingpmkns posted...

None of the characters are people I would want to be friends with but they're definitely likeable within the context of the show. Kind of the same with Walter White. I'm still rooting for characters even if they're god awful people.

Also Greg and Tom are objectively likeable.

I personally disagree. None of them were likeable. Greg and Tom are terrible. If anything, they are objectively less likeable than the others, as they chose by choice to be assholes and terrible people and weren't raised insanely wealthy. I mean, Greg's whole arc is being a failure that phones in a favor to his rich grand-uncle and then plays kiss ass to work his way into the rich and elite's good graces. Even when he is faced with a moral conundrum, he always takes the route that would be most self-serving for himself. Same with Tom.

What I'm rooting for, personally? They all hop in planes on a way to a meeting, and the planes crash into each other and not a single one of the main cast members survive. Not Shiv, not Tom, not Roman, not Greg, not Kendall, not Mattson, not Gerri, not Stewy, not Connor, not Willa, not Karl, not Kerry, not Marcia, not Hugo, not Frank, not Karolina, not Sandy... None of them.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Mattson needs an American CEO.
That CEO is Tom.
Tom chooses Mattson over the Roys, abandons Shiv and the baby, but brings Greg along because Greg has been talking positive about him to Mattson.

I tend to agree with this oneMattson was clearly looking at someone else in the car when he was telling Shiv over the phone that he could make an American CEO work, and all of the Roy kids and Oldheads were still at the party when that went down, so it isnt any of them. Tom is the most likely candidate there.

That said, I think its going to go very badly anyway. After the sale goes through Mattsons bad numbers will come to light and the stock price will tank, ruining the company, and since half of the purchase was in stock, it will ruin the Roys as well. They will all be alone and miserable, having betrayed and backstabbed one another and pushed every other person who could have been an ally to them away.

The hard part for me is figuring out which plot lines can actually be acceptably wrapped up in one episode. I think it's established enough that IF the burned ballots are counted, Mencken will lose, so I can see the supreme court approving that and that throwing a wrench in the acquisition. Ultimately I think that the story has built up to Kendall having the company but not having anything else, so I still think that's the most likely.

WTGHookshot posted...

Not a single person in the show is likable. They are all disgusting human beings.

No offense, but this is the way my mom approaches media.

Anteaterking posted...

No offense, but this is the way my mom approaches media.

No offense taken. That said, to clarify, what I mean by "likeable" isn't that they are people I would hang out in person with or have as friends. What I mean by "likeable" is that I like them as characters. I don't even like them as characters. They don't have an interesting story to me. Their character arcs are terrible from my perspective. They went from shitty characters to even shittier characters, at most; at worst, they haven't changed one bit from the first time we see them. There is no interesting change in their character like a meek high school chemistry teacher becoming a drug king pin, a veteran soldier getting caught between a life of the straight and narrow as an actor and a life of contract killing, a capo who isn't sure if this is the life he wants to eventually looking to get out of organized crime, a con artist turned fresh lawyer looking for his brother's approval and the approval of the love of his life turning into a criminal lawyer who is willing to sell his soul for money, or an army dodger stealing the identity of another person and becoming a big name ad salesman only for his past to come back and haunt him/change him. Furthermore, there is nothing truly at stake. The biggest stake I feel was generally covered in the election episode: how their shittiness affects the rest of the world. Otherwise, all the rest of the episodes focus on simple stakes that don't really matter in the long run: who will run the company? Outside of the game-players, who really cares about who runs the company? As far as any of the characters go, they all are assholes who will run the company the same way, for the most part, with only minor differences to the average person.

I'd be so pissed if I had to drink that disgusting smoothie and then my ugly ass sister still screwed me over.

Haven't been able to watch because my ISP fucked the transfer process to my new house smh. Keeping this up but avoiding the posts. I want to see if I was right

Seriously disappointed that the ending wasn't the Waystar-Royco executive level floor being blown up or an earthquake causing it to topple over or an accidental helicopter flying into it. Or at the very, very, very least Mattson screwing over Tom in the end, firing Greg, Karl, Karolina, Gerri, Hugo, Tom, and the rest and then getting screwed over himself by having a major investigation into his company and his treatment of employees like Ebba, leading to him going to jail for a long ass sentence, while Mencken has Rome killed, Tom in a fit of rage takes out Shiv and then, repulsed by what he did, takes himself out, and Kendall ODing in his depression of how things turned out.

lilORANG posted...

I'd be so pissed if I had to drink that disgusting smoothie and then my ugly ass sister still screwed me over.

Hey, I enjoyed looking at her... this episode.

regardless of who succeeded, it doesn't matter. i mean, they will continue to be rich assholes. that's what i got from this episode... lol

Finally watched it last night but I was warned. Great episode. Sad to see the show go but it went out on a high note.