Current Events > Paramore's Hayley Williams: If you vote for Ron Desantis you're dead to me

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Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 4:10:37 PM #101:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I don't argue with people who are prejudiced against my immutable characteristics. Please find another way to vent your frustrations. Don't take it out on me. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973946480] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I don't argue with people who are prejudiced against my immutable characteristics. Please find another way to vent your frustrations. Don't take it out on me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VirtuousWrath 06/05/23 4:14:10 PM #102:	Conflict had a good underlying point that most white cis hetero guys aren't under attack so they don't have as much skin in the game. But then it was lost in a series of emotional responses. It's easy to understand why Williams, a biofem, would be upset about new laws targeting abortions because she woke up one day with less rights than the day before. I'd agree that denouncing DeSantis is appropriate. --- "I sung of chaos and eternal night, taught by the heav'nly muse to venture down the dark descent, and up to reascend... <cite>VirtuousWrath posted [p:973946545] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Conflict had a good underlying point that most white cis hetero guys aren't under attack so they don't have as much skin in the game.But then it was lost in a series of emotional responses.It's easy to understand why Williams, a biofem, would be upset about new laws targeting abortions because she woke up one day with less rights than the day before. I'd agree that denouncing DeSantis is appropriate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 06/05/23 4:15:27 PM #103:	I never met her. I'm as alive or dead to her as I've ever been. --- Surely if I stick up for rich people on the Internet I'll eventually get a sweet job offer from them, right? <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:973946573] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>I never met her. I'm as alive or dead to her as I've ever been.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oh_Boy_ 06/05/23 4:17:30 PM #106:	Who does she know thats voting for him? Shes been a pretty outspoken far leftist for ages now. <cite>Oh_Boy_ posted [p:973946620] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Who does she know thats voting for him? Shes been a pretty outspoken far leftist for ages now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VirtuousWrath 06/05/23 4:17:45 PM #107:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Only a biological female can get pregnant. --- "I sung of chaos and eternal night, taught by the heav'nly muse to venture down the dark descent, and up to reascend... <cite>VirtuousWrath posted [p:973946626] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Only a biological female can get pregnant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 4:33:48 PM #108:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] [LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're doing a great job of proving my point bro Conflict posted... we have multiple straight white guys in this very topic who understand that and aren't posting dumb shit like you are, so clearly it's not a matter of "not being allowed opinions". Right, it's a matter of having the 'wrong' opinion. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973946938] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You're doing a great job of proving my point broConflict posted... </cite><quote>we have multiple straight white guys in this very topic who understand that and aren't posting dumb shit like you are, so clearly it's not a matter of "not being allowed opinions".</quote>Right, it's a matter of having the 'wrong' opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 06/05/23 4:49:58 PM #110:	Oh_Boy_ posted... Who does she know thats voting for him? Shes been a pretty outspoken far leftist for ages now. Progressive, sure, but lol <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:973947254] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Oh_Boy_ posted... </cite><quote>Who does she know thats voting for him? Shes been a pretty outspoken far leftist for ages now.</quote>Progressive, sure, but lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 5:29:29 PM #112:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Nah, just that it's annoying when celebrities tell people how to vote. You're the one reading too much into it. It's not as personal as you're making it. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973948123] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Nah, just that it's annoying when celebrities tell people how to vote. You're the one reading too much into it. It's not as personal as you're making it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/05/23 7:22:53 PM #113:	Gobstoppers12 posted... Nah, just that it's annoying when celebrities tell people how to vote. You're the one reading too much into it. It's not as personal as you're making it. What is it about a celebrity that makes them having opinions more annoying? At what level of popularity is someone no longer allowed to share opinions? Would you shut up if you got popular? Maybe we can help you. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:973950258] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>Nah, just that it's annoying when celebrities tell people how to vote. You're the one reading too much into it. It's not as personal as you're making it.</quote>What is it about a celebrity that makes them having opinions more annoying? At what level of popularity is someone no longer allowed to share opinions?Would you shut up if you got popular? Maybe we can help you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 7:24:06 PM #114:	hockeybub89 posted... At what level of popularity is someone no longer allowed to share opinions? They're always 'allowed,' but when it gets annoying is...when it gets annoying. It's an art, not a science. Not all annoyances are created equally. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973950283] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>At what level of popularity is someone no longer allowed to share opinions?</quote>They're always 'allowed,' but when it gets annoying is...when it gets annoying.It's an art, not a science. Not all annoyances are created equally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 06/05/23 7:26:56 PM #115:	She has always come across as taking herself way too seriously. Plus some of the shit she did to her fellow band members was really low as well. Im sure shes a great musician but as a person shes questionable. --- Come join us at the Sudoku + Other Pencil Puzzles Community Board. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1572-sudoku-plus-other-pencil-puzzles <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:973950331] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>She has always come across as taking herself way too seriously. Plus some of the shit she did to her fellow band members was really low as well. Im sure shes a great musician but as a person shes questionable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModernPost 06/05/23 7:31:02 PM #116:	Gobstoppers12 posted... It's an art, not a science. Not all annoyances are created equally. It's beginning to sound more and more like something that is completely contained within the confines of your subjective experience. --- The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth, it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Ecclesiastes FunWithAFryPan <cite>ModernPost posted [p:973950405] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>It's an art, not a science. Not all annoyances are created equally.</quote>It's beginning to sound more and more like something that is completely contained within the confines of your subjective experience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/05/23 7:31:09 PM #117:	Gobstoppers12 posted... I have and I do. Turns out, a lot of songs aren't blatantly political statements about current events. Nah, I like it here. Why are you making up strawman arguments? They don't have to be, but the notion that art shouldn't be used as an avenue for personal expression is asinine. "Shut up and art" is kind of missing the point. And you have made it abundantly clear over the years that you care more about tone and the appearance of politeness more than literally anything. No one was saying you can't have opinions because you're straight and white, but telling LGBTQ people "I respect your fight and would vote to help you, but I'm really fucking tired of hearing about this shit" implies that maybe you don't really care. Perhaps the fact that you are not one affected by the anti-LGBTQ politics allows you distance from politics that LGBTQ people are not afforded. Yelling "so you think I shouldn't have rights because I'm straight and white?!" doesn't dispel the implication. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:973950407] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>I have and I do. Turns out, a lot of songs aren't blatantly political statements about current events.Nah, I like it here.Why are you making up strawman arguments?</quote>They don't have to be, but the notion that art shouldn't be used as an avenue for personal expression is asinine. "Shut up and art" is kind of missing the point.And you have made it abundantly clear over the years that you care more about tone and the appearance of politeness more than literally anything.No one was saying you can't have opinions because you're straight and white, but telling LGBTQ people "I respect your fight and would vote to help you, but I'm really fucking tired of hearing about this shit" implies that maybe you don't really care. Perhaps the fact that you are not one affected by the anti-LGBTQ politics allows you distance from politics that LGBTQ people are not afforded. Yelling "so you think I shouldn't have rights because I'm straight and white?!" doesn't dispel the implication.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 06/05/23 7:32:07 PM #118:	she's always been based --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:973950418] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>she's always been based</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/05/23 7:36:03 PM #119:	Gobstoppers12 posted... They're always 'allowed,' but when it gets annoying is...when it gets annoying. It's an art, not a science. Not all annoyances are created equally. What makes it annoying? You seem to be a big fan of opinions until people have them. Then it's "oh god stop telling me how to think!" "If you do this thing, then I will not like you" is only telling you how to live if the speaker's approval is crucial to your life. How does Hayley Williams hating Ron Desantis encroach on your life? How often do you read about what she has to say on a topic? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:973950520] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>They're always 'allowed,' but when it gets annoying is...when it gets annoying.It's an art, not a science. Not all annoyances are created equally.</quote>What makes it annoying? You seem to be a big fan of opinions until people have them. Then it's "oh god stop telling me how to think!""If you do this thing, then I will not like you" is only telling you how to live if the speaker's approval is crucial to your life. How does Hayley Williams hating Ron Desantis encroach on your life? How often do you read about what she has to say on a topic? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 7:54:11 PM #120:	ModernPost posted... It's beginning to sound more and more like something that is completely contained within the confines of your subjective experience. Almost like that's what an opinion is. Pretty wild, huh? hockeybub89 posted... How does Hayley Williams hating Ron Desantis encroach on your life? It doesn't. It's just annoying to hear about. It's especially annoying when she's preaching to her own paying customers. I think you're putting way more thought into my opinion than even I've put into it. The fact I find it annoying isn't really that big of a deal. Why take it personally as if I'm attacking you? I'm not. hockeybub89 posted... How often do you read about what she has to say on a topic? I try to avoid hearing anything at all about celebrity political opinions. There's not a thing on the planet less interesting to me than that. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973950854] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>ModernPost posted... </cite><quote>It's beginning to sound more and more like something that is completely contained within the confines of your subjective experience.</quote>Almost like that's what an opinion is. Pretty wild, huh?hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>How does Hayley Williams hating Ron Desantis encroach on your life?</quote>It doesn't. It's just annoying to hear about. It's especially annoying when she's preaching to her own paying customers.I think you're putting way more thought into my opinion than even I've put into it. The fact I find it annoying isn't really that big of a deal. Why take it personally as if I'm attacking you? I'm not.hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>How often do you read about what she has to say on a topic?</quote>I try to avoid hearing anything at all about celebrity political opinions. There's not a thing on the planet less interesting to me than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModernPost 06/05/23 8:31:47 PM #122:	Gobstoppers12 posted... Almost like that's what an opinion is. Pretty wild, huh? No, that's not what an opinion is. Holy shit, have you ever spoken to another human being before? --- The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth, it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Ecclesiastes FunWithAFryPan <cite>ModernPost posted [p:973951593] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>Almost like that's what an opinion is. Pretty wild, huh?</quote>No, that's not what an opinion is. Holy shit, have you ever spoken to another human being before?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 8:36:38 PM #123:	ModernPost posted... No, that's not what an opinion is. Holy shit, have you ever spoken to another human being before? ...Define the word "opinion" for me, will you please? --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973951698] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>ModernPost posted... </cite><quote>No, that's not what an opinion is. Holy shit, have you ever spoken to another human being before?</quote>...Define the word "opinion" for me, will you please?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/05/23 8:37:19 PM #124:	Gobstoppers12 posted... I try to avoid hearing anything at all about celebrity political opinions. There's not a thing on the planet less interesting to me than that. Why does the qualifier "celebrity" affect it?How much of a celebrity must a person be before their opinions become less interesting than if they were a rather irrelevant person? Funny how someone with the most worthless opinions on the planet is an expert on which opinions matter more or less than others. Also, please address: hockeybub89 posted... They don't have to be, but the notion that art shouldn't be used as an avenue for personal expression is asinine. "Shut up and art" is kind of missing the point. And you have made it abundantly clear over the years that you care more about tone and the appearance of politeness more than literally anything. No one was saying you can't have opinions because you're straight and white, but telling LGBTQ people "I respect your fight and would vote to help you, but I'm really fucking tired of hearing about this shit" implies that maybe you don't really care. Perhaps the fact that you are not one affected by the anti-LGBTQ politics allows you distance from politics that LGBTQ people are not afforded. Yelling "so you think I shouldn't have rights because I'm straight and white?!" doesn't dispel the implication. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:973951712] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>I try to avoid hearing anything at all about celebrity political opinions. There's not a thing on the planet less interesting to me than that.</quote>Why does the qualifier "celebrity" affect it?How much of a celebrity must a person be before their opinions become less interesting than if they were a rather irrelevant person? Funny how someone with the most worthless opinions on the planet is an expert on which opinions matter more or less than others.Also, please address:hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>They don't have to be, but the notion that art shouldn't be used as an avenue for personal expression is asinine. "Shut up and art" is kind of missing the point.And you have made it abundantly clear over the years that you care more about tone and the appearance of politeness more than literally anything.No one was saying you can't have opinions because you're straight and white, but telling LGBTQ people "I respect your fight and would vote to help you, but I'm really fucking tired of hearing about this shit" implies that maybe you don't really care. Perhaps the fact that you are not one affected by the anti-LGBTQ politics allows you distance from politics that LGBTQ people are not afforded. Yelling "so you think I shouldn't have rights because I'm straight and white?!" doesn't dispel the implication.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/05/23 8:38:46 PM #125:	hockeybub89 posted... Also, please address nah I'm good. Like I said, you're thinking way more about this than I am. I just think celebrities preaching about political stuff and telling people how to vote is cringe. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973951742] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Also, please address</quote>nah I'm good. Like I said, you're thinking way more about this than I am. I just think celebrities preaching about political stuff and telling people how to vote is cringe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 06/05/23 8:47:32 PM #126:	Do you think Daryl Davis was wrong for talking to those KKK men and converting them to the correct beliefs? --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:973951953] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Do you think Daryl Davis was wrong for talking to those KKK men and converting them to the correct beliefs?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/05/23 8:50:15 PM #127:	Gobstoppers12 posted... nah I'm good. Like I said, you're thinking way more about this than I am. I just think celebrities preaching about political stuff and telling people how to vote is cringe. Ah the classic response of someone with bullshit opinions called out: "You're putting too much thought into it. It doesn't mean anything" It formed in your head and you let made a decision to share it with others! Do letters and sounds just kind of drip out of your head and form something resembling language by accident? Who is allowed to have opinions in support of LGBTQ people without being annoying to Gobstoppers? Tell us who can share their voice on this and how much they are allowed to say. We wouldn't want you to be too annoyed by politics, or rather the response to what people following your former homeboy have turned into politics. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:973952008] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>nah I'm good. Like I said, you're thinking way more about this than I am. I just think celebrities preaching about political stuff and telling people how to vote is cringe.</quote>Ah the classic response of someone with bullshit opinions called out: "You're putting too much thought into it. It doesn't mean anything"It formed in your head and you let made a decision to share it with others! Do letters and sounds just kind of drip out of your head and form something resembling language by accident?Who is allowed to have opinions in support of LGBTQ people without being annoying to Gobstoppers? Tell us who can share their voice on this and how much they are allowed to say. We wouldn't want you to be too annoyed by politics, or rather the response to what people following your former homeboy have turned into politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 06/05/23 11:09:07 PM #128:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I didn't even catch that lmao tf --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:973954979] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I didn't even catch that lmao tf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModernPost 06/06/23 3:08:31 AM #129:	Gobstoppers12 posted... ...Define the word "opinion" for me, will you please? Is a memory an opinion? --- The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth, it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Ecclesiastes FunWithAFryPan <cite>ModernPost posted [p:973957662] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>...Define the word "opinion" for me, will you please?</quote>Is a memory an opinion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/06/23 3:16:39 AM #130:	hockeybub89 posted... It formed in your head and you let made a decision to share it with others Pretty simple process, to be fair. Thoughts can become words with very little effort. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973957733] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>It formed in your head and you let made a decision to share it with others</quote>Pretty simple process, to be fair. Thoughts can become words with very little effort. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/06/23 3:17:46 AM #131:	ModernPost posted... Is a memory an opinion? ... no, but that's not relevant here. Why are you talking about memories? Define the word "opinion" --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973957746] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>ModernPost posted... </cite><quote>Is a memory an opinion?</quote>... no, but that's not relevant here. Why are you talking about memories? Define the word "opinion"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModernPost 06/06/23 3:24:32 AM #132:	Gobstoppers12 posted... ... no, So those terms aren't interchangeable. --- The simulacrum is never that which conceals the truth, it is the truth which conceals that there is none. The simulacrum is true. Ecclesiastes FunWithAFryPan <cite>ModernPost posted [p:973957801] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>... no,</quote>So those terms aren't interchangeable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 06/06/23 3:39:38 AM #133:	ModernPost posted... So those terms aren't interchangeable. The fuck are you talking about? My opinion about whether or not a celebrity is doing something annoying is just an opinion. Where did memories come into the discussion? Or are you trying to have an entire separate philosophical debate completely unprompted? Try to stay on topic, please. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:973957917] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>ModernPost posted... </cite><quote>So those terms aren't interchangeable.</quote>The fuck are you talking about? My opinion about whether or not a celebrity is doing something annoying is just an opinion. Where did memories come into the discussion? Or are you trying to have an entire separate philosophical debate completely unprompted?Try to stay on topic, please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 06/07/23 6:01:48 PM #135:	I for one am absolutely shocked that Gobstoppers, a user who spent years actively being far right as fuck, is melting down over a celebrity publicly supporting equal rights --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:973993065] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>I for one am absolutely shocked that Gobstoppers, a user who spent years actively being far right as fuck, is melting down over a celebrity publicly supporting equal rights</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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twilightking5 06/07/23 6:10:59 PM #137:	If someone tells me I'm dead to them if vote for someone I guess I made the right choice --- 3ds FC: 0989-2338-4719 <cite>twilightking5 posted [p:973993243] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>If someone tells me I'm dead to them if vote for someone I guess I made the right choice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 06/07/23 7:59:38 PM #138:	twilightking5 posted... If someone tells me I'm dead to them if vote for someone I guess I made the right choice How do? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:973995351] in Paramore's... [t:80460363]...</cite> <quote>twilightking5 posted... </cite><quote>If someone tells me I'm dead to them if vote for someone I guess I made the right choice</quote>How do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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