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ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 7:30:22 PM #1:	Personally, I'm over the whole villain had noble goals, still thinks he's a good guy, lost his way thing. It's boring. Works on the first playthrough sure, but what am I supposed to do on the replay? Pretend to hate him for 2/3 of the story again? Even though I know it'll be revealed he's not as bad as you initially think he is? Or if I'm really unlucky, even though I know he'll be redeemed later on? I enjoy villains with shallow/petty motives. Underhanded, arrogant, maybe even cowardly, all that stuff. While law of diminishing returns is in effect, I like that each time you do a lap of the game you can relive some of the catharsis of finally defeating them. I also like it when the fight is really challenging. Makes it easy to treat them like a threat if they actually are in the gameplay. I have no idea which kinds of villains are popular nowadays. New games show up, have very little staying power then vanish sooner than later. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973950387] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Personally, I'm over the whole villain had noble goals, still thinks he's a good guy, lost his way thing. It's boring.Works on the first playthrough sure, but what am I supposed to do on the replay? Pretend to hate him for 2/3 of the story again? Even though I know it'll be revealed he's not as bad as you initially think he is? Or if I'm really unlucky, even though I know he'll be redeemed later on?I enjoy villains with shallow/petty motives. Underhanded, arrogant, maybe even cowardly, all that stuff. While law of diminishing returns is in effect, I like that each time you do a lap of the game you can relive some of the catharsis of finally defeating them. I also like it when the fight is really challenging. Makes it easy to treat them like a threat if they actually are in the gameplay.I have no idea which kinds of villains are popular nowadays. New games show up, have very little staying power then vanish sooner than later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 7:31:29 PM #2:	Villains that have actual motivations instead of crappy, cartoonish cliches. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973950412] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Villains that have actual motivations instead of crappy, cartoonish cliches.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/05/23 7:33:18 PM #3:	Just give me someone that wants to be evils for evil's sake and save the moral dilemmas for Bioware games. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:973950446] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Just give me someone that wants to be evils for evil's sake and save the moral dilemmas for Bioware games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabin017 06/05/23 7:33:47 PM #4:	Whatever Senator Armstrong is. --- https://i.imgur.com/TWsfIIj.gif <cite>sabin017 posted [p:973950464] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Whatever Senator Armstrong is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 06/05/23 7:33:55 PM #5:	Eldritch abominations --- CrimsonAngel's alt <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:973950470] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Eldritch abominations</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 06/05/23 7:33:58 PM #6:	I like a villain who does nothing wrong, and only loses because they messed with the wrong gangsta (me) --- Posted from my iPhone 13 <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:973950472] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>I like a villain who does nothing wrong, and only loses because they messed with the wrong gangsta (me)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DementedDurian 06/05/23 7:34:11 PM #7:	I prefer the femme fatale. We don't get too many of those. The one that I can think of off-hand is Venus from Pokemon Colosseum. --- (She/Her) Succubus, succubus, er...something...I don't care anymore. <3 Video Game IGN: Nyobe. Someone tell me I'm pretty; very often I don't feel pretty... <cite>DementedDurian posted [p:973950480] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>I prefer the femme fatale.We don't get too many of those. The one that I can think of off-hand is Venus from Pokemon Colosseum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryven 06/05/23 7:34:40 PM #8:	A_Good_Boy posted... Just give me someone that wants to be evils for evil's sake and save the moral dilemmas for Bioware games. There's a charm to Ganondorf that I like, and it is this right here. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' <cite>Ryven posted [p:973950490] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>Just give me someone that wants to be evils for evil's sake and save the moral dilemmas for Bioware games.</quote>There's a charm to Ganondorf that I like, and it is this right here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge_Antilles 06/05/23 7:35:26 PM #9:	Whatever you count Emet-Selch as. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge_Antilles posted [p:973950510] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Whatever you count Emet-Selch as.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 7:36:35 PM #10:	DementedDurian posted... I prefer the femme fatale. We don't get too many of those. The one that I can think of off-hand is Venus from Pokemon Colosseum. How did you manage to miss Lady Dimitrescu? She was huge for a while. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973950530] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian posted... </cite><quote>I prefer the femme fatale.We don't get too many of those. The one that I can think of off-hand is Venus from Pokemon Colosseum.</quote>How did you manage to miss Lady Dimitrescu? She was huge for a while.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 7:37:44 PM #11:	sabin017 posted... Whatever Senator Armstrong is. Money in the bank cash in villain. You wiped out Desperado. Congrats... But you've got *ONE MORE GUY*. (All bets are off, crazy shit starts happening left and right.) Good choice. Not specifically Armstrong but I really like when video games go crazy at the end like that. Crimsoness posted... Eldritch abominations Why? At this point I can't feign interest in these things. You always know it's gonna be some big dumb gimmick boss too. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973950547] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>sabin017 posted... </cite><quote>Whatever Senator Armstrong is.</quote>Money in the bank cash in villain.You wiped out Desperado. Congrats... But you've got ONE MORE GUY.(All bets are off, crazy shit starts happening left and right.)Good choice. Not specifically Armstrong but I really like when video games go crazy at the end like that.Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>Eldritch abominations</quote>Why? At this point I can't feign interest in these things. You always know it's gonna be some big dumb gimmick boss too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 06/05/23 7:47:30 PM #12:	Gaunter O'Dimm aka Evil Incarnate --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life. <cite>Northlane posted [p:973950730] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Gaunter O'Dimm aka Evil Incarnate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 8:00:02 PM #13:	DementedDurian posted... I prefer the femme fatale. We don't get too many of those. The one that I can think of off-hand is Venus from Pokemon Colosseum. She had to compete with Miror B in that game and that means second place at best, but she was still a cool idea. I don't think she was meant to be that kind of seductress though, she was a TV star brainwashing the masses in accordance with Cipher's will. If that game had backstories, hers could have been interesting. ellis123 posted... How did you manage to miss Lady Dimitrescu? She was huge for a while. Boosted by a captive audience thanks to a pandemic. People seem to like messing with the concept a lot more than the actual character. In the real thing she has the GRRR IM REEEAL ANGRYYY voice, no memorable dialogue and no gameplay worth remembering. I don't think femme fatale is the descriptor here. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973950976] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian posted... </cite><quote>I prefer the femme fatale.We don't get too many of those. The one that I can think of off-hand is Venus from Pokemon Colosseum.</quote>She had to compete with Miror B in that game and that means second place at best, but she was still a cool idea.I don't think she was meant to be that kind of seductress though, she was a TV star brainwashing the masses in accordance with Cipher's will. If that game had backstories, hers could have been interesting.ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>How did you manage to miss Lady Dimitrescu? She was huge for a while.</quote>Boosted by a captive audience thanks to a pandemic. People seem to like messing with the concept a lot more than the actual character. In the real thing she has the GRRR IM REEEAL ANGRYYY voice, no memorable dialogue and no gameplay worth remembering.I don't think femme fatale is the descriptor here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 06/05/23 8:01:12 PM #14:	Crimsoness posted... Eldritch abominations --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:973950999] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>Eldritch abominations</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 8:02:19 PM #15:	ViewtifulJoe posted... I don't think femme fatale is the descriptor here. It absolutely is. She is a femme fatale subgenre: dommy mommy. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973951016] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>I don't think femme fatale is the descriptor here.</quote>It absolutely is. She is a femme fatale subgenre: dommy mommy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 06/05/23 8:03:50 PM #16:	ViewtifulJoe posted... Why? Weird alien monsters from beyond with unknowable minds and plans are just interesting to me. --- CrimsonAngel's alt <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:973951045] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>Why?</quote>Weird alien monsters from beyond with unknowable minds and plans are just interesting to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 06/05/23 8:04:23 PM #17:	villains like many in the trails series who are extremely well developed with a fleshed out backstory and conflicted and complicated motivations. the villain for much of trails to azure is one of the best and most developed in videogames --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:973951054] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>villains like many in the trails series who are extremely well developed with a fleshed out backstory and conflicted and complicated motivations. the villain for much of trails to azure is one of the best and most developed in videogames </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wandering__Hero 06/05/23 8:07:48 PM #18:	Manipulative schemers. While it can be done badly, when its done well its incredible like ~~Jade Empire or Knights of the Old Republic 2~~ --- Rip Politics board. Not that anything on there actually mattered <cite>Wandering__Hero posted [p:973951108] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Manipulative schemers. While it can be done badly, when its done well its incredible like Jade Empire or Knights of the Old Republic 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 8:13:52 PM #20:	ellis123 posted... It absolutely is. She is a femme fatale subgenre: dommy mommy. She's a L4D special infected with big claws and some minions. Apart from blood drinking I don't think she makes a move on the protag. And how is that a subgenre? People will yell that whenever they see a female character tall or angry enough, irrespective of her allegiance to good or evil. I don't follow. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973951234] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>It absolutely is. She is a femme fatale subgenre: dommy mommy.</quote>She's a L4D special infected with big claws and some minions.Apart from blood drinking I don't think she makes a move on the protag. And how is that a subgenre? People will yell that whenever they see a female character tall or angry enough, irrespective of her allegiance to good or evil. I don't follow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 8:36:59 PM #21:	Crimsoness posted... Weird alien monsters from beyond with unknowable minds and plans are just interesting to me. Isn't that the same thing repeatedly though? Maybe it'd be fun if they affected the characters or caused the game world to distort in some creative ways but beyond that I don't get it. Wandering__Hero posted... Manipulative schemers. While it can be done badly, when its done well its incredible like I played the second example recently. Seeing all the scenes where it takes place while my character wasn't around almost felt like some kind of slapstick. It was pretty good fun figuring out what the big scheme was, trying to act in accordance or defiance of it in future playthroughs. Had a long, fun conversation about the character with someone after I was finished too. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973951706] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Crimsoness posted... </cite><quote>Weird alien monsters from beyond with unknowable minds and plans are just interesting to me.</quote>Isn't that the same thing repeatedly though? Maybe it'd be fun if they affected the characters or caused the game world to distort in some creative ways but beyond that I don't get it.Wandering__Hero posted... </cite><quote>Manipulative schemers. While it can be done badly, when its done well its incredible like</quote>I played the second example recently. Seeing all the scenes where it takes place while my character wasn't around almost felt like some kind of slapstick. It was pretty good fun figuring out what the big scheme was, trying to act in accordance or defiance of it in future playthroughs. Had a long, fun conversation about the character with someone after I was finished too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 8:38:08 PM #22:	ViewtifulJoe posted... She's a L4D special infected with big claws and some minions. Apart from blood drinking I don't think she makes a move on the protag. And how is that a subgenre? People will yell that whenever they see a female character tall or angry enough, irrespective of her allegiance to good or evil. I don't follow. Because she is 100% a femme fatale, but sometimes you might call her a dommy mommy. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973951731] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>She's a L4D special infected with big claws and some minions.Apart from blood drinking I don't think she makes a move on the protag. And how is that a subgenre? People will yell that whenever they see a female character tall or angry enough, irrespective of her allegiance to good or evil. I don't follow.</quote>Because she is 100% a femme fatale, but sometimes you might call her a dommy mommy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 06/05/23 8:46:00 PM #23:	Villains that you just love to hate. Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2 comes to mind. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:973951905] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Villains that you just love to hate.Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2 comes to mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 9:00:16 PM #24:	ellis123 posted... Because she is 100% a femme fatale, but sometimes you might call her a dommy mommy. Okay if you really want it to count then fine, sure. Not convinced though. To me, that sounds like the way people talk up no-substance gacha game characters. DarkBuster22904 posted... Villains that you just love to hate. Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2 comes to mind. What does this mean? You hear this a lot but it's always kind of vague. Is this like that wrestling thing where you appreciate a heel's performance so you boo in accordance even though you don't actually despise them? Like your character is furiously chasing him for revenge but you're just following along because you find him entertaining and want to see him more? --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973952206] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Because she is 100% a femme fatale, but sometimes you might call her a dommy mommy.</quote>Okay if you really want it to count then fine, sure. Not convinced though. To me, that sounds like the way people talk up no-substance gacha game characters.DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>Villains that you just love to hate.Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2 comes to mind.</quote>What does this mean? You hear this a lot but it's always kind of vague. Is this like that wrestling thing where you appreciate a heel's performance so you boo in accordance even though you don't actually despise them? Like your character is furiously chasing him for revenge but you're just following along because you find him entertaining and want to see him more?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 9:11:42 PM #25:	ViewtifulJoe posted... Okay if you really want it to count then fine, sure. Not convinced though. To me, that sounds like the way people talk up no-substance gacha game characters. Being well written/utilized doesn't define trope. She's hot, you'd get hurt. She's a femme fatale. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973952474] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>Okay if you really want it to count then fine, sure. Not convinced though. To me, that sounds like the way people talk up no-substance gacha game characters.</quote>Being well written/utilized doesn't define trope. She's hot, you'd get hurt. She's a femme fatale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DementedDurian 06/05/23 9:18:31 PM #26:	ellis123 posted... How did you manage to miss Lady Dimitrescu? She was huge for a while. The only Resident Evil games I played were a bit of 5 and the opening part of the original 2 because I can't do tank controls unless it's a bloody tank. --- (She/Her) Succubus, succubus, er...something...I don't care anymore. <3 Video Game IGN: Nyobe. Someone tell me I'm pretty; very often I don't feel pretty... <cite>DementedDurian posted [p:973952633] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>How did you manage to miss Lady Dimitrescu? She was huge for a while.</quote>The only Resident Evil games I played were a bit of 5 and the opening part of the original 2 because I can't do tank controls unless it's a bloody tank. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 9:19:18 PM #27:	DementedDurian posted... The only Resident Evil games I played were a bit of 5 and the opening part of the original 2 because I can't do tank controls unless it's a bloody tank. RIP. Oh, and the modern games don't have tank controls.~.~ --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973952649] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian posted... </cite><quote>The only Resident Evil games I played were a bit of 5 and the opening part of the original 2 because I can't do tank controls unless it's a bloody tank.</quote>RIP.Oh, and the modern games don't have tank controls.~.~</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
super_felicia 06/05/23 9:20:41 PM #28:	Hades from kid icarus uprising is my fav villain ever cos he's despicable and funny at the same time --- I am a mess and Felicia is the cleaner.... <cite>super_felicia posted [p:973952680] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Hades from kid icarus uprising is my fav villain ever cos he's despicable and funny at the same time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 06/05/23 9:27:14 PM #29:	Pure evil and/or bat crazy. I love stories that go off the rails like Urban Chaos. It starts out with having to deal gangs, kidnapings, but then the game goes off the rails and next thing the player knows ~~the player is fighting a giant demon and a cult.~~ --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "Me and my swole chihuahua are about to blow you away, Becky," Anya Forger, SPYxFAMILY. <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:973952832] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Pure evil and/or bat crazy.I love stories that go off the rails like Urban Chaos. It starts out with having to deal gangs, kidnapings, but then the game goes off the rails and next thing the player knows the player is fighting a giant demon and a cult.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 06/05/23 9:31:00 PM #30:	ellis123 posted... Being well written/utilized doesn't define trope. She's hot, you'd get hurt. She's a femme fatale. Oh I was taking it to mean a typical seductress type. And more conventionally attractive. If you broaden it like that, a character that causes harm and whose canonical depiction you personally find attractive, it does count but it loses a lot of meaning. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973952914] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ellis123 posted... </cite><quote>Being well written/utilized doesn't define trope. She's hot, you'd get hurt. She's a femme fatale.</quote>Oh I was taking it to mean a typical seductress type. And more conventionally attractive.If you broaden it like that, a character that causes harm and whose canonical depiction you personally find attractive, it does count but it loses a lot of meaning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 06/05/23 9:37:54 PM #31:	ViewtifulJoe posted... Oh I was taking it to mean a typical seductress type. And more conventionally attractive. If you broaden it like that, a character that causes harm and whose canonical depiction you personally find attractive, it does count but it loses a lot of meaning. It is more about coding, not about actually finding them attractive. Like, if someone took the hottest woman in the world to you, but stuck your dad's head on it they would be coded as attractive but you would absolutely not find them so. Similarly "conventionally attractive" is basically irrelevant. She is absolutely so, it's just how much you particularly are into her. Having claws is irrelevant, literally every aspect about her is a fetish fuel checklist beyond that point. And I didn't find her attractive. Not really the point, though. I just am not so full of myself to believe that the Internet at large didn't. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:973953087] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulJoe posted... </cite><quote>Oh I was taking it to mean a typical seductress type. And more conventionally attractive.If you broaden it like that, a character that causes harm and whose canonical depiction you personally find attractive, it does count but it loses a lot of meaning.</quote>It is more about coding, not about actually finding them attractive. Like, if someone took the hottest woman in the world to you, but stuck your dad's head on it they would be coded as attractive but you would absolutely not find them so. Similarly "conventionally attractive" is basically irrelevant. She is absolutely so, it's just how much you particularly are into her. Having claws is irrelevant, literally every aspect about her is a fetish fuel checklist beyond that point.And I didn't find her attractive. Not really the point, though. I just am not so full of myself to believe that the Internet at large didn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 06/05/23 9:50:32 PM #32:	Villains with motivation and actually kills some characters --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:973953394] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Villains with motivation and actually kills some characters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 06/05/23 9:53:45 PM #33:	I like ones where you have to spend most of the game figuring out who they are. Then putting it all together with a twist maybe. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:973953462] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>I like ones where you have to spend most of the game figuring out who they are. Then putting it all together with a twist maybe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 06/06/23 1:56:28 PM #34:	Anyway, roundabout way of getting to it, but Metal Face was the best Xenoblade 1 villain and Jasper Batt Jr is the guy. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:973966057] in Do you hav... [t:80467641]...</cite> <quote>Anyway, roundabout way of getting to it, but Metal Face was the best Xenoblade 1 villain and Jasper Batt Jr is the guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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