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Doe 06/08/23 11:16:20 PM #1:	There is way too much dialogue in just about every souls ripoff. One thing that makes FromSoft environments effective is the lack of real human contact or conversation. The result is you focus a lot on the details in the world/level and items and you're really happy when you find someone who speaks in the game. Meanwhile in so many Souls ripoffs I'm waiting for people to shut up. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:974024451] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>There is way too much dialogue in just about every souls ripoff. One thing that makes FromSoft environments effective is the lack of real human contact or conversation. The result is you focus a lot on the details in the world/level and items and you're really happy when you find someone who speaks in the game. Meanwhile in so many Souls ripoffs I'm waiting for people to shut up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
itachi15243 06/08/23 11:23:43 PM #2:	I always assumed they did that to comfortably fit in the genre but not be a complete rip-off Some have too little or too much, but no one does it right. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:974024576] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>I always assumed they did that to comfortably fit in the genre but not be a complete rip-off Some have too little or too much, but no one does it right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoungMutual 06/08/23 11:28:07 PM #3:	What they don't get is that they always try to turn the combat into a halfway point between souls and a hack and slash. Also, they don't focus on exploration or level design, which is key in souls game. So they don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest, at least most of them --- YoungMutual <cite>YoungMutual posted [p:974024665] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>What they don't get is that they always try to turn the combat into a halfway point between souls and a hack and slash.Also, they don't focus on exploration or level design, which is key in souls game.So they don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest, at least most of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlemayor333 06/08/23 11:31:04 PM #4:	Tunic tried but it didn't land for me. In that game they want the player to translate all the game's text from a made-up language. Most people will just play not understanding any of the words. --- http://i.imgur.com/WWk7D.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hE7v5GL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sY9YLKe.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9e67vqt.jpg <cite>Turtlemayor333 posted [p:974024716] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>Tunic tried but it didn't land for me. In that game they want the player to translate all the game's text from a made-up language. Most people will just play not understanding any of the words.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joelypoely 06/08/23 11:33:52 PM #5:	What happened with that game Mortal Shell? It looked really good but I didn't see many streamers playing it or people talking about it --- https://philoetryblog.wordpress.com/ <cite>Joelypoely posted [p:974024759] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>What happened with that game Mortal Shell? It looked really good but I didn't see many streamers playing it or people talking about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 06/09/23 12:34:11 AM #6:	Joelypoely posted... What happened with that game Mortal Shell? It looked really good but I didn't see many streamers playing it or people talking about it From what I could tell, it just didn't have much in the way of replay value. I recall a bunch of souls streamers playing it early, but then it dropped off the map after they were done. I'm guilty of it. Bought it on discount (then it went free on ps+ like a month later), but have been sidetracked with a bunch of other stuff. I mean, I bought cyberpunk over a year ago, played for a few hours, then Elden Ring came in the mail. Went back to cyberpunk a month ago and finally finshed it yesterday. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:974025767] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>Joelypoely posted... </cite><quote>What happened with that game Mortal Shell? It looked really good but I didn't see many streamers playing it or people talking about it</quote>From what I could tell, it just didn't have much in the way of replay value. I recall a bunch of souls streamers playing it early, but then it dropped off the map after they were done. I'm guilty of it. Bought it on discount (then it went free on ps+ like a month later), but have been sidetracked with a bunch of other stuff. I mean, I bought cyberpunk over a year ago, played for a few hours, then Elden Ring came in the mail. Went back to cyberpunk a month ago and finally finshed it yesterday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 06/11/23 9:41:22 AM #7:	YoungMutual posted... What they don't get is that they always try to turn the combat into a halfway point between souls and a hack and slash. Also, they don't focus on exploration or level design, which is key in souls game. So they don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest, at least most of them --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:974074086] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>YoungMutual posted... </cite><quote>What they don't get is that they always try to turn the combat into a halfway point between souls and a hack and slash.Also, they don't focus on exploration or level design, which is key in souls game.So they don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest, at least most of them</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WTGHookshot 06/11/23 9:57:26 AM #8:	Doe posted... There is way too much dialogue in just about every souls ripoff. One thing that makes FromSoft environments effective is the lack of real human contact or conversation. The result is you focus a lot on the details in the world/level and items and you're really happy when you find someone who speaks in the game. Meanwhile in so many Souls ripoffs I'm waiting for people to shut up. If you want to play Souls, then play Souls. Personally, I like "Souls ripoffs" that do that type of stuff because that's what I feel holds Souls back. You see the lack of dialogue in FromSoft's Souls games as a positive. Others like myself tend to see it as a negative. So, these "Souls ripoffs" are trying to do something slightly different to appeal to people like me, rather than trying to appeal to people like you who already think Souls is practically perfect as-is. --- Thanos was wrong. Mike Ehrmantraut, "The moral of the story is: I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way ... No more half measures." <cite>WTGHookshot posted [p:974074291] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted...</cite><quote>There is way too much dialogue in just about every souls ripoff. One thing that makes FromSoft environments effective is the lack of real human contact or conversation. The result is you focus a lot on the details in the world/level and items and you're really happy when you find someone who speaks in the game. Meanwhile in so many Souls ripoffs I'm waiting for people to shut up.</quote>If you want to play Souls, then play Souls.Personally, I like "Souls ripoffs" that do that type of stuff because that's what I feel holds Souls back. You see the lack of dialogue in FromSoft's Souls games as a positive. Others like myself tend to see it as a negative. So, these "Souls ripoffs" are trying to do something slightly different to appeal to people like me, rather than trying to appeal to people like you who already think Souls is practically perfect as-is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WTGHookshot 06/11/23 10:03:27 AM #9:	YoungMutual posted... What they don't get is that they always try to turn the combat into a halfway point between souls and a hack and slash. Also, they don't focus on exploration or level design, which is key in souls game. So they don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest, at least most of them Same response as #8: If you want to play Souls, then play Souls. You see the slow methodical pacing in FromSoft's Souls games as a positive. There are others out there that tend to see it as a negative. So, these "Souls ripoffs" are trying to do something slightly different to appeal to people like the latter, rather than trying to appeal to people like you who already think Souls is practically perfect as-is. You see the exploration/level design in FromSoft's Souls games as a positive. There are others out there that tend to see it as a negative. So, these "Souls ripoffs" are trying to do something slightly different to appeal to people like the latter, rather than trying to appeal to people like you who already think Souls is practically perfect as-is. It's not necessarily that these developers "don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest." It's that "good" is a subjective term and what you find "good" might not be what someone else finds "good." These developers are changing things to make something they find "good" and the audience they are targeting finds "good." You just might not be part of that audience (and that's okay... just like not everybody is going to be part of FromSoft's audience). --- Thanos was wrong. Mike Ehrmantraut, "The moral of the story is: I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way ... No more half measures." <cite>WTGHookshot posted [p:974074374] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>YoungMutual posted...</cite><quote>What they don't get is that they always try to turn the combat into a halfway point between souls and a hack and slash.Also, they don't focus on exploration or level design, which is key in souls game.So they don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest, at least most of them</quote>Same response as #8:If you want to play Souls, then play Souls.You see the slow methodical pacing in FromSoft's Souls games as a positive. There are others out there that tend to see it as a negative. So, these "Souls ripoffs" are trying to do something slightly different to appeal to people like the latter, rather than trying to appeal to people like you who already think Souls is practically perfect as-is.You see the exploration/level design in FromSoft's Souls games as a positive. There are others out there that tend to see it as a negative. So, these "Souls ripoffs" are trying to do something slightly different to appeal to people like the latter, rather than trying to appeal to people like you who already think Souls is practically perfect as-is.It's not necessarily that these developers "don't understand what makes these games good in the slightest." It's that "good" is a subjective term and what you find "good" might not be what someone else finds "good." These developers are changing things to make something they find "good" and the audience they are targeting finds "good." You just might not be part of that audience (and that's okay... just like not everybody is going to be part of FromSoft's audience).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 06/11/23 10:04:19 AM #10:	Naw, its the invasion mechanic that they dont implement --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:974074386] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>Naw, its the invasion mechanic that they dont implement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WTGHookshot 06/11/23 10:12:05 AM #11:	R1masher posted... Naw, its the invasion mechanic that they dont implement Please see posts #8 and #9. Not everybody likes the invasion mechanic. The Surge 2 is my buddy's favorite Souls-like (even over FromSoft's games) because it lacks the invasion mechanic. --- Thanos was wrong. Mike Ehrmantraut, "The moral of the story is: I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way ... No more half measures." <cite>WTGHookshot posted [p:974074472] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted...</cite><quote>Naw, its the invasion mechanic that they dont implement </quote>Please see posts #8 and #9.Not everybody likes the invasion mechanic.The Surge 2 is my buddy's favorite Souls-like (even over FromSoft's games) because it lacks the invasion mechanic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 06/11/23 10:20:24 AM #12:	WTGHookshot posted... Please see posts #8 and #9. Not everybody likes the invasion mechanic. The Surge 2 is my buddy's favorite Souls-like (even over FromSoft's games) because it lacks the invasion mechanic. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/2/AAYZyTAADbtI.jpg --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:974074593] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>WTGHookshot posted... </cite><quote>Please see posts #8 and #9.Not everybody likes the invasion mechanic.The Surge 2 is my buddy's favorite Souls-like (even over FromSoft's games) because it lacks the invasion mechanic.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/2/AAYZyTAADbtI.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 06/12/23 7:32:52 PM #13:	WTGHookshot posted... The Surge 2 is my buddy's favorite Souls-like (even over FromSoft's games) because it lacks the invasion mechanic. Surge 2 is what a sequel should be. Took what was good about the first one and improved it while adding other good features. Turning high level materials into low level ones was great if you were making stuff to see if you liked it. Partial and full set bonus. Gear/chip sets to easily change depending on what you are doing. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:974112974] in The thing ... [t:80471311]...</cite> <quote>WTGHookshot posted... </cite><quote>The Surge 2 is my buddy's favorite Souls-like (even over FromSoft's games) because it lacks the invasion mechanic.</quote>Surge 2 is what a sequel should be. Took what was good about the first one and improved it while adding other good features. Turning high level materials into low level ones was great if you were making stuff to see if you liked it. Partial and full set bonus. Gear/chip sets to easily change depending on what you are doing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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