Board 8 > Favorite Ace Attorney Third Case?

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This one should be fun. What a stacked group.

Personal ranking: E2-3 > G2-3 > 6-3 > L-3 > 1-3 > 5-3 > G1-3 > 3-3 > 2-3 > E1-3 > 4-3

G2-3 takes this one pretty easily for me

6-3 > L-3 > G2-3 > E2-3 > 1-3 > 2-3 > 4-3 > 3-3 > G1-3 > 5-3 > E1-3

Everything is so strong here imo except for 5-3 and E1-3; all the other nine cases I like more than every 2 case in the series, I think. But nothing tops 6-3 here.

While not every 3rd case is terrible, they are fairly consistently weak.

6-3 is fine, 5-3 I actually like a whole lot.

But come on.

It's G2-3.

G2-3 is probably the best of all the GAA cases so that

granted I may like the G1-3+5 combo but individually probably not

I voted for G2-3 and then immediately realized that was wrong and I should have voted for E2-3 instead

I like G2-3, but I do find it a touch overrated mainly because I don't think it had time to develop most of its characters. I really, really wish they had done more with Sithe.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

they are fairly consistently weak

Nah, 4-3 is the only bad one. 2-3 and E1-3 are both below average but still enjoyable. 3-3 is good.

Everything else is great.

3-3 is not terrible but it's easily the worst case in it's game.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

3-3 is not terrible but it's easily the worst case in it's game.

Which is why T&T is still the best game in the series

When 3-3 is the worst thing you have to offer, you've created an all-timer

3-3 is the worst case in the series and I'll die on that hill.

LeonhartFour posted...

Which is why T&T is still the best game in the series

When 3-3 is the worst thing you have to offer, you've created an all-timer

Even though I don't think it's the best, you're not wrong! Easily the most consistent game in this series.

Well, G2, but that doesn't really count to me personally since for all intents and purposes it's the second half of another game.

You know at some point I will try this Layton one

stopped after Diabloical Box though

I'm the one who thinks 2-3, 3-3, and 4-3 are all great cases (and better than every 2 case)

LiquidOshawott posted...

You know at some point I will try this Layton one

stopped after Diabloical Box though

No need to play the other Layton (or PW) games before the crossover beyond maybe the first ones just to know who the characters are (and even then not really).

LiquidOshawott posted...

You know at some point I will try this Layton one

stopped after Diabloical Box though

Yeah, I don't blame you. Diabolical Box is the worst Layton game. Thankfully, Unwound Future is the best one. Layton/AA is good, too.

LordoftheMorons posted...

No need to play the other Layton (or PW) games before the crossover beyond maybe the first ones just to know who the characters are (and even then not really).

This is also true. I played Layton/AA before I ever played a Layton game and it was still easy to follow.

My very spicy take is the weak AA cases are still fine for the most part (2-1, 4-3, 6-4 etc) so I dont mind them as much

Oh here is a fun take of mine

1-3 is the second best case in the first game

Paratroopa1 posted...

I'm the one who thinks 2-3, 3-3, and 4-3 are all great cases (and better than every 2 case)

4-3 is better than 4-2, yes, but then again, it's very, very easy to be better than 4-2.

LiquidOshawott posted...

Oh here is a fun take of mine

1-3 is the second best case in the first game

Correct.

1-3 was a top ten case for me at one point, but other good cases from the most recent games have crowded it out a bit. I'll always have fond memories of this case because it's what made me fall in love with the series.

It also has a unique feel to it because it's the only case where Phoenix and Maya don't feel "close" yet.

Having played one Layton game is more than enough experience to get into Layton vs Wright; playing zero Layton games is probably still sufficient, the characters aren't terribly complex, though you'll have less whiplash from the game's style if you've played one Layton game, since it's mostly a Layton game in aesthetic

I feel like early series third cases are pretty weak, but later series third cases are quite good, generally speaking! AAI2 set a new standard for third cases. I think all are excellent from that point onward except for Runaway Room. I voted for Return of the Great Departed Soul, but maybe that's just because I played that one most recently.

DragonGargoyle posted...

I may have an irrational amount of love for Will Powers, he is my favorite character in the whole series

Probably because he's one of the few characters in the series that's not eccentric. =p (and he's not ugly like the game tries to suggest)

1-3 was a better on a replay and jumped a fair amount in my eyes. You've already proven Powers is most likely innocent after day 2, but the case is self-aware and admits as such and I really like that it does. It's easy to overlook how much it means at first glance, but Gumshoe outright tells Phoenix that a good chunk of the Prosecutor's Office doesn't believe in the case against Powers anymore on day 3. This is a concession that, as far as I remember, is completely unique to 1-3. This also ends up being a case where, even with all the darkness lurking in the shadows, it actually was self defense. This case was willing to take chances basically every other case avoided and I learned to respect it for that.

2-3 tried to be a fun case. It's not awful, but it missed the mark quite a bit. I actually think being a little more grounded in reality would've helped it out quite a lot.

3-3 is one of the worst cases in the series. There's a littany of issues with it, moreso than almost any other. This has long been Blade's personal pick for worst case in the entire series, as 1-2 is for me.

4-3 is also one of the worst cases in the series. I can respect that they tried to be new and inventive with it... But none of it actually improves the case at all.

5-3 leaves me with mixed feelings. The case itself was fairly good, and unlike 5-2 has a respectable reason for the first day being stopped. My biggest issue, and I've said this before, is everything to do with Robin felt like a total copout.

6-3 would be better with less Rafya. I like the touch added to day 2 which is why it was virtually impossible to win on day 1, but she's just too present. I actually skipped through some text on day 2 just because I was so tired of listening to her.

E1-3 is bad for two reasons. The first it is has a pair of plot twists I saw coming less than 3 minutes into the case. The second is Lance and Lauren are both very weak characters for how much the case ends up focused on them.

E2-3 is a case I feel is very undersold. The progression between the timelines doesn't feel forced, and it really highlights just how completely broken the system was and still partially is. The villain, while having very little screentime, is very well done. He just isn't evil, he's jubilant about being evil, about what being evil has gained him, and about the fact that he's sure he's already gotten away with it because he can't be charged with the crime anymore. He feels no remorse and laughs off his crime as if it were nothing. He might be the best "underdeveloped" character in the series just because of how much they sell his utter lack of redeeming qualities in such a short timeframe.

G1-3 is good because McGilded carries it. This looks like possibly the most open and shut case in the entire series at first, and as you go down the rabbit hole, you begin to get this nagging feeling that it really was that open and shut to begin with and you've just been playing someone else's game all along. You end the case knowing you almost certainly got a guilty man off, but the game doesn't actually outright tell you until two cases later, and I really like it for that.

G2-3 As good as McGilded was, Drebber is better. Sithe gets completely shafted, but everything about Drebber shines. His look, and even his mannerisms show his outright partial dissociation from humanity because of everything that's been taken from him. The case itself is a ride of connecting a whole lot of little things loosely together, all leading to a massive can of worms opening up the one time Tusspells testifies. It does run "long" at it's tailend, but unlike other cases that do, it doesn't feel like it overstays it's welcome at all. If anything, this case needed more time, especially given to make Sithe more of an actual character. Even after that ride, you get taken for another one at the very end with the reveal. Much like E2-3, the other really good third case, they really didn't pull many punches with this case at all.

E2 and G2 run away with this pretty easily. G2 wins though, because Courtney and Sebastian are just as insufferable in E2-3 as they are in E2-2, and it drags it down a little bit. G2-3 doesn't have anything like that to drag it down.

Will Powers is not my favorite character, heck he's not even in my top 10, but I don't think it's irrational to have him as a favorite. He is a very genuine and likable guy.

Also Layton's case 3 as an HM was a pretty good case and might've actually been the best one overall.

G2-3 > E2-3 > G1-3 > 6-3 > 1-3 > 5-3 >>>>>> 3-3 > E1-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2-3 > 4-3

It's serioustly like they went into E2 and DD thinking "all our third cases suck, what if we just made all of them the best in their respective games"

Except 6-3. But 6-5 is the GOAT, so.....

Oh and I legitimately don't remember L3, other than how it ends. I need to play that game again.

I went with G1-3 but I guess it probably is actually G2-3.

voted 1-3 without thinking too hard about it, but totally stacked category.

2-3 is below average and 4-3 kinda sucks but other than that these are really strong cases. e1-3 is a little silly but it's still good.

g1-3,and 5-3 are next in some order but are very good

no idea how i'd sort 3-3, 6-3, e2-3, g2-3. all some of the best stuff AA has to offer, but arguably overstuffed experiences

This used to be a hard question before I played E2 and G2. Now it's a tossup between those two cases. I'm going with G2 since all the E cases go a bit long. But E2-3 is definitely the best case of that game.

DragonGargoyle posted...

Yeah, I thought maybe it was a weird pick just because he's one of the least "spicy" (?) characters, in a series full of spicy characters lol

That's exactly why it isn't weird to me. In a bin half full of loonies, he's one of the only normal, relatable guys.

Definitely a lot of heavy hitters here. I voted for 3-3 since I have a soft spot for Furio Tigre and all of the nonsense that happens in that case, but 5-3, G1-3, and G2-3 are great too.

Funny how the "Case 3 Curse" used to be a thing but after AA4 the 3rd case actually has a tendency to be one of the most solid in the game

Then00bAvenger posted...

Funny how the "Case 3 Curse" used to be a thing but after AA4 the 3rd case actually has a tendency to be one of the most solid in the game

E1-3 still sucks and that came out after AA4

Anyway, I still haven't said what I voted for. 5-3. I love that case. It might be in my top 10.

I didn't expect G2-3 to be winning so easily, but it's nice to see so many cases performing well.

Great:
1-3
3-3
5-3
G1-3
G2-3

Bad:
2-3
4-3
6-3

E2-3 is just okay, IMO. Going on too long hurts it, like every case in E2. 6-3 might be the most overrated case in the series at this point. It's not good, and one of the reasons AA6 isn't that good as a whole. I voted 5-3 since it was kinda underrepresented in the poll, but G2-3 is probably the actual answer. By far the best case in that game.

While I agree every case in AAI2 is probably longer than it needs to be, I think E2-3 earns its length because it's secretly two cases in one, like 6-5.

Although I'm probably the one guy in the fanbase who was clamoring for playable Gregory Edgeworth, so that elevates it in my book a bit, too.

Haha yeah, I didn't care about Gregory. That hurts it a bit too.

I love Gregory

Leonhart4 posted...

While I agree every case in AAI2 is probably longer than it needs to be, I think E2-3 earns its length because it's secretly two cases in one, like 6-5.

i think it's more like 3-4 + 3-5 or e1-4 + e1-5 than 6-5, whose two halves are actually less tightly related imo