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CM_Ponch
06/27/23 1:04:45 PM
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I feel like I missed a chapter

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PoopPotato
06/27/23 1:05:29 PM
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Because Ukraine winning makes Biden look good. That's it.

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YourBestFrenemy
06/27/23 1:06:11 PM
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Putin simps.

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ScazarMeltex
06/27/23 1:08:31 PM
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Because the right is inherently authoritarian and thus they worship strongman governments. So by their world view Putin is the good guy.

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Shadow_Don
06/27/23 1:08:34 PM
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Because they need Russia and Putin to interfere in our elections.

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Jiek_Fafn
06/27/23 1:08:59 PM
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"If this type of thing could could happen to Russia, then it could happen to US!"

Same as millionaire worshipping. They believe they're just temporarily embarrassed despots.


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Kuuko
06/27/23 1:10:00 PM
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1. Russian propaganda has completely enveloped right-wing dialogue
2. Biden administration wants to help Ukraine, and the Republican party's current policies today are mostly based on being contrarian toward whatever Democrats are doing.
3. They can loosely try to tie it into other political news stories of the past to create some broad conspiracy narrative - particularly the Hunter Biden Burisma stuff that was in Ukraine. And to some extent the first Trump impeachment event where Trump himself threatened Zelensky over military aid. But mostly Hunter Biden.

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Vampire_Chicken
06/27/23 1:11:05 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Because the right is inherently authoritarian and thus they worship strongman governments. So by their world view Putin is the good guy.
Makes you think that all their Cold Warrior hatred for the USSR might have had a grain of envy somewhere in it.

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Junthor
06/27/23 1:14:53 PM
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PoopPotato posted...
Because Ukraine winning makes Biden look good. That's it.


This is it in reality,

But its not all rightwing peeps.

I'm right wing and a lot of my rightwing friends ( including me) understand the reality in Ukraine and the importance of supporting them and NATO against Russian threats.


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CM_Ponch
06/27/23 1:15:51 PM
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Man, what a bunch of dumbasses

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EndOfDiscOne
06/27/23 1:26:06 PM
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I would have supported Ukraine, but the left beat me to it. So I have to take the other side.

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firedoom666
06/27/23 1:26:37 PM
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Putin was accused of helping Trump win the election, Trump fans become fans of Putin, Putin invades a sovereign free nation of Ukraine, Trump fans now hate Ukraine

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Chicken
06/27/23 1:27:43 PM
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90% of right wing talking points originate from russian troll farms so its no surprise that they worship putin

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Prestoff
06/27/23 1:29:08 PM
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Kuuko posted...
1. Russian propaganda has completely enveloped right-wing dialogue
2. Biden administration wants to help Ukraine, and the Republican party's current policies today are mostly based on being contrarian toward whatever Democrats are doing.
3. They can loosely try to tie it into other political news stories of the past to create some broad conspiracy narrative - particularly the Hunter Biden Burisma stuff that was in Ukraine. And to some extent the first Trump impeachment event where Trump himself threatened Zelensky over military aid. But mostly Hunter Biden.

I really wonder how the right wing would've reacted if Trump was still president and started aiding Ukraine during the war.

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Strider102
06/27/23 1:33:07 PM
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Because Ukraine is in a conflict with Russia, and the right absolutely love Russia and Putin.

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X8Azazel8X
06/27/23 1:36:27 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Because the right is inherently authoritarian and thus they worship strongman governments. So by their world view Putin is the good guy.

Shadow_Don posted...
Because they need Russia and Putin to interfere in our elections.

Kuuko posted...
1. Russian propaganda has completely enveloped right-wing dialogue
2. Biden administration wants to help Ukraine, and the Republican party's current policies today are mostly based on being contrarian toward whatever Democrats are doing.
3. They can loosely try to tie it into other political news stories of the past to create some broad conspiracy narrative - particularly the Hunter Biden Burisma stuff that was in Ukraine. And to some extent the first Trump impeachment event where Trump himself threatened Zelensky over military aid. But mostly Hunter Biden.

All of these.

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Junthor
06/27/23 1:41:18 PM
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Prestoff posted...
I really wonder how the right wing would've reacted if Trump was still president and started aiding Ukraine during the war.


I wonder what the Left would have done.

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Prestoff
06/27/23 1:43:41 PM
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Junthor posted...
I wonder what the Left would have done.

That's true as well.

I know personally I would've supported Trump if he did, like Biden.

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Starks
06/27/23 1:44:28 PM
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The right doesn't believe in sovereignty beyond our own.

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Questionmarktarius
06/27/23 1:45:10 PM
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Junthor posted...
I wonder what the Left would have done.
become hippies, probably
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MrDrMan
06/27/23 1:45:41 PM
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Because all they have is identity politics. Ukraine just happens to currently be in the crosshairs along with LGBTQ and minorities who have been there for some time.

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DarkChozoGhost
06/28/23 11:26:56 AM
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Trump was actively and deliberately assisting Russia in trying to take over Ukraine through corrupt politics. Trump is pro Russia. So his supporters are too.

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FL81
06/30/23 4:48:13 PM
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PoopPotato posted...
Because Ukraine winning makes Biden look good. That's it.
firedoom666 posted...
Putin was accused of helping Trump win the election, Trump fans become fans of Putin, Putin invades a sovereign free nation of Ukraine, Trump fans now hate Ukraine
EndOfDiscOne posted...
I would have supported Ukraine, but the left beat me to it. So I have to take the other side.
these

what people need to realize is that the only ideological foundation of maga is being petty and contrarian about every single issue

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creativerealms
06/30/23 4:50:34 PM
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Because democrats and liberals support Ukraine.

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PballDepot
06/30/23 4:52:57 PM
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Notti
07/03/23 6:44:52 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...


Well if youre curious which side holds more consistent views and is less susceptible to changing on the whims of their cult of personality, heres some data

https://imgur.com/a/YZMyt

its a little dated at this point, but you get the idea

They are simps for power.

They are always looking for that messiah that will lead them to the promised land.

So their simple minded contrarian thinking of "deep state/UN bad" means anyone who claims to be against that must be good. Even if they are brutal lying criminal conmen.

They are like scared mice, always running f4om some boogeyman. From the frying pan into the fire, repeatedly


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ZaruenKosai
07/03/23 6:52:27 AM
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Because they love Russia and want to turn America into a local russia chapter.

They dream of the day they can turn this country into a police state and make up elections as they choose the next nazi white supremacist to plunge the country back into the dark ages.

Republicans learned from trump, trump learend from putin and russia, there is a reason why republcians and russians act so similaarly barbaric and primitive. It is because the Republicans learned from Russia and want that kind of power over Americans, and most importantly, minorities, females, and democrats.

They would love nothing more than to arrest democrat sympathizers, minorities, and woman.

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Kim_Seong-a
07/03/23 7:04:28 AM
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Because a Democratic administration is supporting them.

The GOP has zero identity outside of being against whatever the democrats are doing. Same reason they turned a goddamn pandemic into a fucking game.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:07:47 AM
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The establishment seems to be actually trying on this one.
I dunno if Pence and Lindsey Graham are enough to sway the far right though.

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Kitt
07/03/23 7:22:04 AM
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I know a super Right-Wing weirdo who talks about how much he hates Communism/Communists, and America is the greatest country in the world, Communism is worse than Nazism, blah, blah, blah, etc.

All that said, he also believes Stalin in based, simps for Putin, and is actively rooting for Russia in the war against Ukraine.

I don't even...

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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:32:44 AM
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Kitt posted...
I know a super Right-Wing weirdo who talks about how much he hates Communism/Communists, and America is the greatest country in the world, Communism is worse than Nazism, blah, blah, blah, etc.

All that said, he also believes Stalin in based, simps for Putin, and is actively rooting for Russia in the war against Ukraine.

I don't even...
It checks out. Neither Stalin nor Putin were particularly good at communism.

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GunmaN1905
07/03/23 7:39:55 AM
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It's one of the strangest things to me.

Most conservatives are older and they all grew up during the cold war when it was all about saving the world from nasty commies.

Today we have a war where US is pretty much an anime deity and is embarrassing Soviet weaponary with 1% of it's capabilities, without any loss of American life.
And those same boomers are on Putin's side.

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FolkenRawr
07/03/23 7:41:05 AM
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My buddy is very pissed about sending $10bil to Ukraine

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GunmaN1905
07/03/23 7:47:29 AM
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FolkenRawr posted...
My buddy is very pissed about sending $10bil to Ukraine

This is the worst take people have.

US is still sending nothing by outdated weapons by US military standards and everything they send was just sitting in storage collecting dust. And all that stuff is produced domestically so even if it's replaced, it's just fueling the economy.

Iirc, US taxpayers donate like $13 a month to Ukraine. That's the las thing people should complain about considering the state of some other things like healthcare.
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Solar_Crimson
07/03/23 7:48:13 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Because the right is inherently authoritarian and thus they worship strongman governments. So by their world view Putin is the good guy.


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Avirosb
07/03/23 7:52:44 AM
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FolkenRawr posted...
My buddy is very pissed about sending $10bil to Ukraine
What did he think that money would go to?
Socialism?

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FolkenRawr
07/03/23 7:56:48 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
This is the worst take people have.

US is still sending nothing by outdated weapons by US military standards and everything they send was just sitting in storage collecting dust. And all that stuff is produced domestically so even if it's replaced, it's just fueling the economy.

Iirc, US taxpayers donate like $13 a month to Ukraine. That's the las thing people should complain about considering the state of some other things like healthcare.

Believe me, I tried. I tried to pivot to how the annual budget is in the trillions, so even if we did just cut a check for $10bil it wouldn't even mean anything.
Tried talking about how they'd use the money instead - the obvious 'help Americans here' and pointed out that's hard when the GOP shuts down any helpful bill out of either pure spite or outright malice.

I changed the subject when that wasn't going anywhere.

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Fenriswolf
07/03/23 9:08:21 AM
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A ridiculous generalization. Plenty of right wingers including the ones in UK, Italy and Poland hate Russia, even though they themselves promote similar policies as Putin eg promoting "traditionalism" and the religious right, wanting to "restore" their country to its past glories etc.

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Avirosb
07/03/23 9:14:18 AM
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A good rule of thumb is that nationalists between countries are buddy-buddies right up till the moment either side starts trailing behind.

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Gritty
07/03/23 9:17:50 AM
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Republicans are inherently traitors
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