Board 8 > The 100 Dumbest Events In Children's Television History

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Great_Paul 07/02/23 3:56:19 PM #152:	RySenkari posted... Arnold Takes Off His Helmet On Pluto That moment definitely bothered me for a while after I first saw it. --- Bear Bro https://backloggery.com/frausky <cite>Great_Paul posted [p:974579800] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>RySenkari posted... </cite><quote>Arnold Takes Off His Helmet On Pluto</quote>That moment definitely bothered me for a while after I first saw it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/02/23 4:18:20 PM #153:	#77: Double Dare 2000 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAAG8cAAEn10.jpg They named it Double Dare 2000 so you know it's the year 2000. The original Double Dare was one of the greatest shows in Nickelodeon history. It had it all: wacky stunts, slime, prizes, excited kids, it could be argued that Double Dare was the show that made Nickelodeon Nickelodeon. But when they brought Double Dare back in 2000.... for some reason, the magic just wasn't there anymore. There was a new host, named Jason Harris, but he was no Marc Summers, lacking the enthusiasm and excitement that Summers brought to the original show (and, by the way, Summers WAS a part of Double Dare 2000 as a consultant, so why they didn't just have him host is a mystery). They tried to spice things up by adding things like the Triple Dare Challenge, but the original Double Dare was nearly perfect, why change it? In addition, the show was riddled with celebrity episodes pitting Nick stars against one another. Sure, the original show had celebrity episodes as well, but Double Dare 2000 seemed to have them all the time, and the celebs had even less charisma than the normal contestants, making these specials a chore to suffer through. And yes, change isn't a bad thing... but there's a reason the original Double Dare remains Nickelodeon's longest running game show, while Double Dare 2000 remained just that... exclusive to 2000, canceled after less than a year. The original show was fun, but all the updates made to the new Double Dare turned 2000's version into just another generic gameshow, no longer fun to watch but just a series of sloppy challenges with a lifeless host and boring contestants. When they brought Double Dare back again in 2018, it was MUCH closer to the original in tone and energy, and say what you will about Liza Koshy, but at least she seemed to enjoy hosting the show, which is a far cry more than what Jason Harris brought to the program. Remember, Marc Summers looked like he loved hosting every second of the original, and turns out, he had OCD. If a man with OCD can host Double Dare and still look 100 times happier to do it than the new host, that new host has a serious problem. We were all excited to get Double Dare back in 2000, but everything about the new show let us down. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974580203] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>#77: Double Dare 2000https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/6/4/AAAG8cAAEn10.jpg They named it Double Dare 2000 so you know it's the year 2000.The original Double Dare was one of the greatest shows in Nickelodeon history. It had it all: wacky stunts, slime, prizes, excited kids, it could be argued that Double Dare was the show that made Nickelodeon Nickelodeon. But when they brought Double Dare back in 2000.... for some reason, the magic just wasn't there anymore. There was a new host, named Jason Harris, but he was no Marc Summers, lacking the enthusiasm and excitement that Summers brought to the original show (and, by the way, Summers WAS a part of Double Dare 2000 as a consultant, so why they didn't just have him host is a mystery). They tried to spice things up by adding things like the Triple Dare Challenge, but the original Double Dare was nearly perfect, why change it? In addition, the show was riddled with celebrity episodes pitting Nick stars against one another. Sure, the original show had celebrity episodes as well, but Double Dare 2000 seemed to have them all the time, and the celebs had even less charisma than the normal contestants, making these specials a chore to suffer through. And yes, change isn't a bad thing... but there's a reason the original Double Dare remains Nickelodeon's longest running game show, while Double Dare 2000 remained just that... exclusive to 2000, canceled after less than a year. The original show was fun, but all the updates made to the new Double Dare turned 2000's version into just another generic gameshow, no longer fun to watch but just a series of sloppy challenges with a lifeless host and boring contestants. When they brought Double Dare back again in 2018, it was MUCH closer to the original in tone and energy, and say what you will about Liza Koshy, but at least she seemed to enjoy hosting the show, which is a far cry more than what Jason Harris brought to the program. Remember, Marc Summers looked like he loved hosting every second of the original, and turns out, he had OCD. If a man with OCD can host Double Dare and still look 100 times happier to do it than the new host, that new host has a serious problem. We were all excited to get Double Dare back in 2000, but everything about the new show let us down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 07/02/23 4:22:38 PM #154:	Double Dare...Nickelodeon...huh? I definitely watched this show as a kid, and we didn't have cable. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/7/1/AAUC3iAAEn17.png I see...and also TIL the original Double Dare was hosted by Alex Trebek, of all people. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:974580280] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Double Dare...Nickelodeon...huh? I definitely watched this show as a kid, and we didn't have cable.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/7/1/AAUC3iAAEn17.png I see...and also TIL the original Double Dare was hosted by Alex Trebek, of all people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/02/23 4:24:57 PM #155:	That was a TOTALLY different Double Dare, though Alex Trebek hosting the Nickelodeon Double Dare would've been hilarious. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974580324] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>That was a TOTALLY different Double Dare, though Alex Trebek hosting the Nickelodeon Double Dare would've been hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega_Mana 07/02/23 4:24:58 PM #156:	RySenkari posted... 79: Arnold Takes Off His Helmet On Pluto Oh, if stuff like this is on the list, please please please let there be an entry for Ghostwriter's ~~Gooey Gus.~~ Not only was it terrifying and traumatizing, it was the last 'case' of the original show, was the most fantastical and unrealistic case of the show, turned out to all be a dream/character's written fiction, and had Casey and the badly recast Gabriella as the leads. But also... ~~Gooey Gus~~ --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega_Mana posted [p:974580325] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>RySenkari posted... </cite><quote>79: Arnold Takes Off His Helmet On Pluto</quote>Oh, if stuff like this is on the list, please please please let there be an entry for Ghostwriter's Gooey Gus.Not only was it terrifying and traumatizing, it was the last 'case' of the original show, was the most fantastical and unrealistic case of the show, turned out to all be a dream/character's written fiction, and had Casey and the badly recast Gabriella as the leads.But also... Gooey Gus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 07/02/23 4:44:07 PM #157:	I wonder how much of All That, Roundhouse, Clarissa Explains it All, and Stick Stickley will be on here. Also the thought of having I Love Lucy run immediately after the children's programming ended when I was a kid, but I liked that way better than Happy Days and the Partridge Family, so meh. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:974580704] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>I wonder how much of All That, Roundhouse, Clarissa Explains it All, and Stick Stickley will be on here.Also the thought of having I Love Lucy run immediately after the children's programming ended when I was a kid, but I liked that way better than Happy Days and the Partridge Family, so meh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 07/02/23 4:45:13 PM #158:	Oh, and Are You Afraid Of the Dark. Or the episode of Salute Your Shorts where Donkeylips flipped off a cop, teaching me of the middle finger being a "curse." --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:974580725] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Oh, and Are You Afraid Of the Dark. Or the episode of Salute Your Shorts where Donkeylips flipped off a cop, teaching me of the middle finger being a "curse."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 07/02/23 4:54:38 PM #159:	Isquen posted... Oh, and Are You Afraid Of the Dark. Or the episode of Salute Your Shorts where Donkeylips flipped off a cop, teaching me of the middle finger being a "curse." That's hilarious --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:974580892] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Isquen posted... </cite><quote>Oh, and Are You Afraid Of the Dark. Or the episode of Salute Your Shorts where Donkeylips flipped off a cop, teaching me of the middle finger being a "curse."</quote>That's hilarious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Young_Link 07/02/23 5:42:21 PM #160:	There's a certain acronym that comes to mind. --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 <cite>Dark_Young_Link posted [p:974581755] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>There's a certain acronym that comes to mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
v_charon 07/02/23 5:59:18 PM #161:	masterplum posted... Wtf internet Drawing childrens cartoon characters as sexy is fine but drawing them as thin is evil apparently There's an entire genre of people drawing skinny characters as fat and no one goes out of their way to bully those people in the same way this person was. Just the ultimate hypocrisy. --- :> Truly smilin' <cite>v_charon posted [p:974582107] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted...</cite><quote>Wtf internetDrawing childrens cartoon characters as sexy is fine but drawing them as thin is evil apparently </quote>There's an entire genre of people drawing skinny characters as fat and no one goes out of their way to bully those people in the same way this person was. Just the ultimate hypocrisy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/02/23 6:29:11 PM #162:	#76: Star Butterfly Commits Magical Genocide https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/5/4/AAAG8cAAEn3O.jpg The saddest thing is, she really did think this through. (NOTE: The following entry contains SPOILERS for the series finale of Star vs. The Forces Of Evil!) Star vs. The Forces Of Evil has always been a somewhat polarizing series, due to its heavy emphasis on the romances between various characters and the wide variety of "ships", but it always seemed to be building toward Star/Marco... we just didn't know how far the series would go to get there. Seasons one, two, and three had been, for the most part, well received, focusing on Star Butterfly's quest to master her magic wand while fighting for her friends and loved ones on Earth and Mewni. Eventually, Star learned that her royal family held a dark secret, and season three mostly revolved around setting things right. Season four, on the other hand, was somewhat of a mess, with the fallout from Star's decision mixing with more relationship drama, until things finally culminated in the finale itself. The finale had a number of problems, including the series' final adversary being joke villain Mina Loveberry, rather than a compelling villain such as Toffee, or even an interesting twist like Moon or even Solaria. As it turned out, the only way to stop Mina, who had absorbed an incredible amount of magic for some reason, was for Star to use the Whispering Spell to destroy ALL magic... which would wipe all magical beings from existence, including longtime allies and favorites like Glossaryck and Hekapoo. Regardless, Star goes through with it anyway, with the show presenting no other solution to save everyone except to destroy magic and wipe out potentially billions of innocent creatures. Of course, this consequence is largely glossed over, with the High Magic Council seen as mostly accepting their fates. All of this leads into the final scenes in which Earth and Mewni have been cleaved together, allowing Star and Marco to be together. Billions of living creatures are dead, but Star and Marco are together, so... yay! As you can tell, this caused obvious problems from the fandom... even fans who LIKED most of how things turned out, like the ships, were left with a sour taste in their mouths, and the legacy of the show ultimately seems to be how bad it got in the final season... culminating in one of the most morally dissonant finales in history. Amongst recent Disney Channel animated finales, Star vs. The Forces Of Evil stands alone in being nearly universally reviled, and it's tarnished the reputation of the series overall. Fans wonder whether the writers just backed themselves into a corner or whether this was planned all along (highly unlikely), but either way, the last season of the show and particularly the final episode are yet another example of squandered potential... it's painful to have an ending like this when the first few seasons were so good. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974582662] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>#76: Star Butterfly Commits Magical Genocidehttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/5/4/AAAG8cAAEn3O.jpg The saddest thing is, she really did think this through.(NOTE: The following entry contains SPOILERS for the series finale of Star vs. The Forces Of Evil!)Star vs. The Forces Of Evil has always been a somewhat polarizing series, due to its heavy emphasis on the romances between various characters and the wide variety of "ships", but it always seemed to be building toward Star/Marco... we just didn't know how far the series would go to get there. Seasons one, two, and three had been, for the most part, well received, focusing on Star Butterfly's quest to master her magic wand while fighting for her friends and loved ones on Earth and Mewni. Eventually, Star learned that her royal family held a dark secret, and season three mostly revolved around setting things right. Season four, on the other hand, was somewhat of a mess, with the fallout from Star's decision mixing with more relationship drama, until things finally culminated in the finale itself. The finale had a number of problems, including the series' final adversary being joke villain Mina Loveberry, rather than a compelling villain such as Toffee, or even an interesting twist like Moon or even Solaria. As it turned out, the only way to stop Mina, who had absorbed an incredible amount of magic for some reason, was for Star to use the Whispering Spell to destroy ALL magic... which would wipe all magical beings from existence, including longtime allies and favorites like Glossaryck and Hekapoo. Regardless, Star goes through with it anyway, with the show presenting no other solution to save everyone except to destroy magic and wipe out potentially billions of innocent creatures. Of course, this consequence is largely glossed over, with the High Magic Council seen as mostly accepting their fates. All of this leads into the final scenes in which Earth and Mewni have been cleaved together, allowing Star and Marco to be together. Billions of living creatures are dead, but Star and Marco are together, so... yay! As you can tell, this caused obvious problems from the fandom... even fans who LIKED most of how things turned out, like the ships, were left with a sour taste in their mouths, and the legacy of the show ultimately seems to be how bad it got in the final season... culminating in one of the most morally dissonant finales in history. Amongst recent Disney Channel animated finales, Star vs. The Forces Of Evil stands alone in being nearly universally reviled, and it's tarnished the reputation of the series overall. Fans wonder whether the writers just backed themselves into a corner or whether this was planned all along (highly unlikely), but either way, the last season of the show and particularly the final episode are yet another example of squandered potential... it's painful to have an ending like this when the first few seasons were so good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 07/02/23 6:32:44 PM #163:	What a fucking mess. This was legitimately am excellent show. You could tell that had something really special. And then I think they changed a bunch of writers and shrunk the staff or something? And it all crumbled. It took me like half a year to bring myself to watch the last season when I was watching it all. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:974582727] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>What a fucking mess. This was legitimately am excellent show. You could tell that had something really special. And then I think they changed a bunch of writers and shrunk the staff or something? And it all crumbled. It took me like half a year to bring myself to watch the last season when I was watching it all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/02/23 6:45:40 PM #164:	The thing about the SU fanart is, the characters body type wasnt even known when it was first posted - there was no deliberate attempt to make the character skinny, people just found it years later and decided to harass them over it. It even led to at least one arrest. Also wtf @ that Star synopsis. I am enjoying reacting to recaps of insane things I havent watched. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:974582985] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>The thing about the SU fanart is, the characters body type wasnt even known when it was first posted - there was no deliberate attempt to make the character skinny, people just found it years later and decided to harass them over it. It even led to at least one arrest.Also wtf @ that Star synopsis. I am enjoying reacting to recaps of insane things I havent watched.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MysteriousStan 07/02/23 6:54:51 PM #165:	LightningStrikes posted... Also wtf @ that Star synopsis. I am enjoying reacting to recaps of insane things I havent watched. <cite>MysteriousStan posted [p:974583141] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>LightningStrikes posted... </cite><quote>Also wtf @ that Star synopsis. I am enjoying reacting to recaps of insane things I havent watched.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 07/02/23 6:57:07 PM #166:	It is difficulty to explain what an excellent balance of good humorous cartooning and legit engaging plot and character work Star was over those initial few seasons. The reputation of the show is in the gutter now, but I still think it's worth watching everything before they change worlds and even some after that. It's painful because the actual ideas even in the bad seasons had potential. It just completely flopped and didn't execute. Plot holes became constant, plot threads were completely dropped. They had a lore specialist listed in the credits for the longest time, and for the last chunk of the show that position dissapears from the credits entirely. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:974583170] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>It is difficulty to explain what an excellent balance of good humorous cartooning and legit engaging plot and character work Star was over those initial few seasons. The reputation of the show is in the gutter now, but I still think it's worth watching everything before they change worlds and even some after that. It's painful because the actual ideas even in the bad seasons had potential. It just completely flopped and didn't execute. Plot holes became constant, plot threads were completely dropped. They had a lore specialist listed in the credits for the longest time, and for the last chunk of the show that position dissapears from the credits entirely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cody11533 07/02/23 7:00:08 PM #167:	I was curious and looked up that episode on the show's Wiki page, and under Trivia it said Star vs. The Forces Of Evil aired its finale on the same day as Game of Thrones lol. That must have been a disappointing day for fans of both shows. --- "Video games are meant to be just one thing. Fun. Fun for everyone." -Satoru Iwata "11533 >>> 1001 imo" - Jeff Zero <cite>Cody11533 posted [p:974583222] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>I was curious and looked up that episode on the show's Wiki page, and under Trivia it said Star vs. The Forces Of Evil aired its finale on the same day as Game of Thrones lol. That must have been a disappointing day for fans of both shows.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 07/02/23 7:02:13 PM #168:	if i was a writer i think i would simply not have my hero character do a genocide --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:974583256] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>if i was a writer i think i would simply not have my hero character do a genocide</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 07/02/23 7:10:15 PM #169:	v_charon posted... There's an entire genre of people drawing skinny characters as fat and no one goes out of their way to bully those people in the same way this person was. Just the ultimate hypocrisy. Well I think that gets into making a character less traditional vs more traditional. Shipping a straight character gay is normal. Shipping a gay character straight when there already isnt very much lgbt representation can seem like bad taste. In that vein making traditional body types less traditional is whatever. I dont think that is where the hypocrisy is. The hypocrisy is trying to make characters unreasonably sexy is also expected and everywhere which often includes massively changing body types, so changing a body type to more traditionally attractive shouldnt be a big deal at all. Feels like if the artist had made the character naked and skinny it wouldnt have been a big deal which is ridiculously problematic on a host of levels when you think about it. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:974583389] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>v_charon posted... </cite><quote>There's an entire genre of people drawing skinny characters as fat and no one goes out of their way to bully those people in the same way this person was. Just the ultimate hypocrisy.</quote>WellI think that gets into making a character less traditional vs more traditional. Shipping a straight character gay is normal. Shipping a gay character straight when there already isnt very much lgbt representation can seem like bad taste. In that vein making traditional body types less traditional is whatever. I dont think that is where the hypocrisy is.The hypocrisy is trying to make characters unreasonably sexy is also expected and everywhere which often includes massively changing body types, so changing a body type to more traditionally attractive shouldnt be a big deal at all.Feels like if the artist had made the character naked and skinny it wouldnt have been a big deal which is ridiculously problematic on a host of levels when you think about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 07/02/23 7:19:14 PM #170:	The body size harrasment doesn't have shit on the skin color eyedropper tool harrasment by people who don't understand what lighting is. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:974583540] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>The body size harrasment doesn't have shit on the skin color eyedropper tool harrasment by people who don't understand what lighting is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrinceKaro 07/02/23 8:58:00 PM #172:	Holy fuck now I am glad I stopped watching Star vs that is... vile --- https://i.imgtc.com/a6iBg1Y.jpg Congrats to azuarc* on being really good at predicting stuff* <cite>PrinceKaro posted [p:974585669] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Holy fuck now I am glad I stopped watching Star vsthat is... vile</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 07/02/23 8:59:41 PM #173:	I'm enjoying the topic and I mean nothing demeaning when I ask this: did you watch all of these shows on your own accord growing up and through adulthood, did having kids introduce you to some shows as you got older, did the internet guide you to enough weird things about children's shows that you became this well-versed, are you in the children's television show business, or...? It's just a interesting topic out of nowhere for us and I think many of us similarly don't know many of these situations whereas you do. Again, enjoying the topic! Just don't know how this came to be for you and I don't think your first post addresses how you learned about all these crazy things from the genre. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:974585700] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>I'm enjoying the topic and I mean nothing demeaning when I ask this: did you watch all of these shows on your own accord growing up and through adulthood, did having kids introduce you to some shows as you got older, did the internet guide you to enough weird things about children's shows that you became this well-versed, are you in the children's television show business, or...? It's just a interesting topic out of nowhere for us and I think many of us similarly don't know many of these situations whereas you do.Again, enjoying the topic! Just don't know how this came to be for you and I don't think your first post addresses how you learned about all these crazy things from the genre.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zinformant 07/02/23 8:59:48 PM #174:	Tag. For amusement's sake, I submit the Lou Bega Pokemon segments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB_hAAZ60EM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eo3E7eTMLQ Another one from the polka world is a glaring 'Who's that?' segment mistake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUpAWrb4ig --- While we count these petals to pluck them off a cosmos The stem is likely to blast but never does the fate <cite>zinformant posted [p:974585705] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Tag.For amusement's sake, I submit the Lou Bega Pokemon segments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB_hAAZ60EMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eo3E7eTMLQAnother one from the polka world is a glaring 'Who's that?' segment mistake.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUpAWrb4ig</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uglyface2 07/02/23 10:40:07 PM #175:	Isquen posted... Oh, and Are You Afraid Of the Dark. Or the episode of Salute Your Shorts where Donkeylips flipped off a cop, teaching me of the middle finger being a "curse." How old were you when that aired? I knew the middle finger was a curse when I was in preschool, and so did the rest of the class who busted out laughing when we got to "Where is Middle". That was the absolute last time we sang that song. <cite>Uglyface2 posted [p:974587338] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Isquen posted... </cite><quote>Oh, and Are You Afraid Of the Dark. Or the episode of Salute Your Shorts where Donkeylips flipped off a cop, teaching me of the middle finger being a "curse."</quote>How old were you when that aired? I knew the middle finger was a curse when I was in preschool, and so did the rest of the class who busted out laughing when we got to "Where is Middle". That was the absolute last time we sang that song.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 07/02/23 11:02:53 PM #176:	oh yeah I was too busy to reply when I first read it but I have to point out that of the characters singing the 4Kids national anthem, only two of them were characters made in America (Splinter and Michelangelo), and of those two, one of them is from Japan within the fiction. And even Michelangelo is not technically an American citizen! --- http://i.imgur.com/k0v0z3q.gif <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:974587682] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>oh yeah I was too busy to reply when I first read it but I have to point out that of the characters singing the 4Kids national anthem, only two of them were characters made in America (Splinter and Michelangelo), and of those two, one of them is from Japan within the fiction. And even Michelangelo is not technically an American citizen!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slykirby 07/02/23 11:36:45 PM #177:	Gonna put in a prediction for the Its a Wonderful Life parody that Fairly Odd Parents did where Timmy learns that the lives of everyone he knows would be unambiguously better if he had just never been born. --- https://i.imgur.com/c3jEuPS.jpg <cite>slykirby posted [p:974588248] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Gonna put in a prediction for the Its a Wonderful Life parody that Fairly Odd Parents did where Timmy learns that the lives of everyone he knows would be unambiguously better if he had just never been born. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 07/02/23 11:41:30 PM #178:	slykirby posted... Gonna put in a prediction for the Its a Wonderful Life parody that Fairly Odd Parents did where Timmy learns that the lives of everyone he knows would be unambiguously better if he had just never been born. that was hilarious --- What can the harvest hope for if not for the care of the Reaper Man? <cite>NFUN posted [p:974588333] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>slykirby posted... </cite><quote>Gonna put in a prediction for the Its a Wonderful Life parody that Fairly Odd Parents did where Timmy learns that the lives of everyone he knows would be unambiguously better if he had just never been born.</quote>that was hilarious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/02/23 11:45:44 PM #179:	NFUN posted... that was hilarious --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:974588400] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>NFUN posted... </cite><quote>that was hilarious</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Young_Link 07/03/23 12:09:13 AM #180:	DragonGargoyle posted... I have watched it, and I can vouch that the finale is exactly as bad as OP's synopsis makes it sound. Maybe even worse lol They even made a joke that was basically a "scew that guy, he sucked", but "that guy" was a former ally of Star's. There was this realy cute episode in an earlier season, where Star taught this magical creature man to be less reactionary and paranoid about who qualifies as "evil". He was recovering! The only reason he went back to his old ways in the finale was because Star's mom, who has the reputation of being one of the most powerful and impornant forces of good in the world, literally TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HIM BY MAKING HIM THINK THAT ALL MONSTERS ARE EVIL. He would've been fine if she explained that he was lied to, but instead, he's a victim of the magic genocide, and the show goes OUT OF ITS WAY TO LAUGH AT HIS DEATH Yeah that's not even dark humor at that point, that's just mean. --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 <cite>Dark_Young_Link posted [p:974588774] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>DragonGargoyle posted... </cite><quote>I have watched it, and I can vouch that the finale is exactly as bad as OP's synopsis makes it sound. Maybe even worse lolThey even made a joke that was basically a "scew that guy, he sucked", but "that guy" was a former ally of Star's. There was this realy cute episode in an earlier season, where Star taught this magical creature man to be less reactionary and paranoid about who qualifies as "evil". He was recovering! The only reason he went back to his old ways in the finale was because Star's mom, who has the reputation of being one of the most powerful and impornant forces of good in the world, literally TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HIM BY MAKING HIM THINK THAT ALL MONSTERS ARE EVIL. He would've been fine if she explained that he was lied to, but instead, he's a victim of the magic genocide, and the show goes OUT OF ITS WAY TO LAUGH AT HIS DEATH</quote>Yeah that's not even dark humor at that point, that's just mean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 07/03/23 2:47:20 AM #181:	Uglyface2 posted... How old were you when that aired? I knew the middle finger was a curse when I was in preschool, and so did the rest of the class who busted out laughing when we got to "Where is Middle". That was the absolute last time we sang that song. Can't remember, but I was fairly oblivious+sheltered as a kid. I didn't even know porn was a word until 5th grade or so, and I got a mouth of soap for spelling "bastard" out on a Scrabble board a year before that. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:974590505] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Uglyface2 posted... </cite><quote>How old were you when that aired? I knew the middle finger was a curse when I was in preschool, and so did the rest of the class who busted out laughing when we got to "Where is Middle". That was the absolute last time we sang that song.</quote>Can't remember, but I was fairly oblivious+sheltered as a kid. I didn't even know porn was a word until 5th grade or so, and I got a mouth of soap for spelling "bastard" out on a Scrabble board a year before that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LazyKenny 07/03/23 5:07:50 AM #182:	RySenkari posted... #91: Butt-Ugly Martians Funny enough, I always saw this show as existing solely because Nickelodeon wanted an Invader Zim replacement without any of the baggage that came with the creator. --- Someday, I too will become Florida Man. <cite>LazyKenny posted [p:974591528] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>RySenkari posted... </cite><quote>#91: Butt-Ugly Martians</quote>Funny enough, I always saw this show as existing solely because Nickelodeon wanted an Invader Zim replacement without any of the baggage that came with the creator.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/03/23 5:29:30 AM #183:	Butt-Ugly Martians actually predates Invader Zim by a month! It took a year to come to the US though, it had aired in the UK and presumably elsewhere earlier. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:974591720] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Butt-Ugly Martians actually predates Invader Zim by a month! It took a year to come to the US though, it had aired in the UK and presumably elsewhere earlier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/03/23 7:05:44 AM #184:	#75: Totally Spies And Its Many Fetishes https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/7/AAAG8cAAEn85.jpg "I don't understand it. James Coco went mad in fifteen minutes!" Totally Spies is a seemingly innocent action comedy about three teenage girls who travel the world as superspies while battling evil villains. It's not a great show, but it's certainly not a bad one either, despite the somewhat repetitive formula. If that was all it was about, the show would be nowhere near this list... but since we're talking about it here, there's got to be a catch, right? Oh yes... because practically every episode features some of the most fetishistic fanservice you'll ever see on Western animated television... or anywhere, for that matter, there's hentai that doesn't have as many fetishes as Totally Spies. In addition to the fairly basic stuff one might expect from this kind of show, including tight spy suits, bikinis, girlfights, bondage... basic Charlie's Angels fare, albeit slightly toned down for the show's "intended" audience of children, there's also brainwashing, transformation, inflation, muscle growth, force feeding, foot fetishism, tentacles, mud wrestling... there's numerous lists chronicling the various fetishes this show contains, but you name it and this show's pretty much done it. And yes, it's intended mostly for kids... and, yes, kids actually form the bulk of the show's audiences. What's really dumb isn't the fetishism for the most part, it's the fact that all of this goes on and hardly nobody says anything about it, we've all just... come to accept it as part of the show. There's never been a major media controversy over it, nobody laments the fact that there's an insane amount of adult fanart and fanfiction drawn of this show, even more than normal, and indeed, the show's even going to get a season 7 later this year. It's proven successful, it's cited by many media sources as an example of strong female role model cartoon characters (even when the girls get captured and tied up practically every episode). There's something INCREDIBLY dumb going on here, but who's the culprit? Is it the creators for trying to sneak so much fetish content past viewers? Is it the usual suspect media watchdogs for not noticing or caring? Is it the grown ass men who watch the show for the fetish content? This time, honestly, I think every single person involved with Totally Spies, be it the creators or the fans, deserves a little bit of the blame, and I, as a long time fan, include myself in that as well. Kenneth Bainbridge, the director of the Trinity atomic bomb test, died in 1996 and thus didn't quite live to see Totally Spies, but if he had, I imagine he might've said the same thing he did when he witnessed the first ever test of an atomic bomb: "Now, we are all sons of bitches." --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974592678] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>#75: Totally Spies And Its Many Fetisheshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/7/AAAG8cAAEn85.jpg "I don't understand it. James Coco went mad in fifteen minutes!"Totally Spies is a seemingly innocent action comedy about three teenage girls who travel the world as superspies while battling evil villains. It's not a great show, but it's certainly not a bad one either, despite the somewhat repetitive formula. If that was all it was about, the show would be nowhere near this list... but since we're talking about it here, there's got to be a catch, right? Oh yes... because practically every episode features some of the most fetishistic fanservice you'll ever see on Western animated television... or anywhere, for that matter, there's hentai that doesn't have as many fetishes as Totally Spies. In addition to the fairly basic stuff one might expect from this kind of show, including tight spy suits, bikinis, girlfights, bondage... basic Charlie's Angels fare, albeit slightly toned down for the show's "intended" audience of children, there's also brainwashing, transformation, inflation, muscle growth, force feeding, foot fetishism, tentacles, mud wrestling... there's numerous lists chronicling the various fetishes this show contains, but you name it and this show's pretty much done it. And yes, it's intended mostly for kids... and, yes, kids actually form the bulk of the show's audiences. What's really dumb isn't the fetishism for the most part, it's the fact that all of this goes on and hardly nobody says anything about it, we've all just... come to accept it as part of the show. There's never been a major media controversy over it, nobody laments the fact that there's an insane amount of adult fanart and fanfiction drawn of this show, even more than normal, and indeed, the show's even going to get a season 7 later this year. It's proven successful, it's cited by many media sources as an example of strong female role model cartoon characters (even when the girls get captured and tied up practically every episode). There's something INCREDIBLY dumb going on here, but who's the culprit? Is it the creators for trying to sneak so much fetish content past viewers? Is it the usual suspect media watchdogs for not noticing or caring? Is it the grown ass men who watch the show for the fetish content? This time, honestly, I think every single person involved with Totally Spies, be it the creators or the fans, deserves a little bit of the blame, and I, as a long time fan, include myself in that as well. Kenneth Bainbridge, the director of the Trinity atomic bomb test, died in 1996 and thus didn't quite live to see Totally Spies, but if he had, I imagine he might've said the same thing he did when he witnessed the first ever test of an atomic bomb: "Now, we are all sons of bitches."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/03/23 7:09:46 AM #185:	HaRRicH posted... I'm enjoying the topic and I mean nothing demeaning when I ask this: did you watch all of these shows on your own accord growing up and through adulthood, did having kids introduce you to some shows as you got older, did the internet guide you to enough weird things about children's shows that you became this well-versed, are you in the children's television show business, or...? It's just a interesting topic out of nowhere for us and I think many of us similarly don't know many of these situations whereas you do. Again, enjoying the topic! Just don't know how this came to be for you and I don't think your first post addresses how you learned about all these crazy things from the genre. I mostly watched Nickelodeon growing up, dabbling in Saturday morning stuff (mostly for Power Rangers), and later moved on to Cartoon Network. I heard about most of this stuff before making the list, but I still had to do a lot of research, both to expand my knowledge of certain subjects and to discover any entries for the list I might've missed over the years. Like I said, the idea came from the 2004 book about dumb TV moments in general, and while lamenting the fact that there hasn't been an updated version, I began thinking about ideas for a kids' tv centric version of the list. Honestly, I imagined it as a series of Youtube videos, if I was good at editing video that's the format this list would've taken XD --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974592713] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>HaRRicH posted... </cite><quote>I'm enjoying the topic and I mean nothing demeaning when I ask this: did you watch all of these shows on your own accord growing up and through adulthood, did having kids introduce you to some shows as you got older, did the internet guide you to enough weird things about children's shows that you became this well-versed, are you in the children's television show business, or...? It's just a interesting topic out of nowhere for us and I think many of us similarly don't know many of these situations whereas you do.Again, enjoying the topic! Just don't know how this came to be for you and I don't think your first post addresses how you learned about all these crazy things from the genre.</quote>I mostly watched Nickelodeon growing up, dabbling in Saturday morning stuff (mostly for Power Rangers), and later moved on to Cartoon Network. I heard about most of this stuff before making the list, but I still had to do a lot of research, both to expand my knowledge of certain subjects and to discover any entries for the list I might've missed over the years. Like I said, the idea came from the 2004 book about dumb TV moments in general, and while lamenting the fact that there hasn't been an updated version, I began thinking about ideas for a kids' tv centric version of the list. Honestly, I imagined it as a series of Youtube videos, if I was good at editing video that's the format this list would've taken XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 07/03/23 7:12:47 AM #186:	Good choice. I think it got away with it because none of the fetishes are explicit. It wasnt even Animaniac levels of innuendo, they were just plot points that some people had fetishes of. Because of that, its kind of a catch 22 where to get mad at it you had to admit you understood inflation fetishes were a fetish, and I doubt any group wanted to do that. There werent any low hanging fruit to attack the show --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:974592745] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Good choice. I think it got away with it because none of the fetishes are explicit. It wasnt even Animaniac levels of innuendo, they were just plot points that some people had fetishes of.Because of that, its kind of a catch 22 where to get mad at it you had to admit you understood inflation fetishes were a fetish, and I doubt any group wanted to do that. There werent any low hanging fruit to attack the show </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/03/23 7:17:14 AM #187:	masterplum posted... Good choice. I think it got away with it because none of the fetishes are explicit. It wasnt even Animaniac levels of innuendo, they were just plot points that some people had fetishes of. Because of that, its kind of a catch 22 where to get mad at it you had to admit you understood inflation fetishes were a fetish, and I doubt any group wanted to do that. There werent any low hanging fruit to attack the show Ah yes, the Dee Snider Paradox. "Songs allow a person to put their own imaginations, experiences and dreams into the lyrics. Uhh, people can interpret it many ways. Mrs Gore was looking for sadomasochism and bondage and she found it. Someone looking for surgical references would have found it as well."- Dee Snider, at the 1985 Senate hearing on explicit lyrics in music --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974592798] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted... </cite><quote>Good choice. I think it got away with it because none of the fetishes are explicit. It wasnt even Animaniac levels of innuendo, they were just plot points that some people had fetishes of.Because of that, its kind of a catch 22 where to get mad at it you had to admit you understood inflation fetishes were a fetish, and I doubt any group wanted to do that. There werent any low hanging fruit to attack the show</quote>Ah yes, the Dee Snider Paradox."Songs allow a person to put their own imaginations, experiences and dreams into the lyrics. Uhh, people can interpret it many ways. Mrs Gore was looking for sadomasochism and bondage and she found it. Someone looking for surgical references would have found it as well."- Dee Snider, at the 1985 Senate hearing on explicit lyrics in music</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 07/03/23 7:22:29 AM #188:	masterplum posted... Good choice. I think it got away with it because none of the fetishes are explicit. It wasnt even Animaniac levels of innuendo, they were just plot points that some people had fetishes of. Because of that, its kind of a catch 22 where to get mad at it you had to admit you understood inflation fetishes were a fetish, and I doubt any group wanted to do that. There werent any low hanging fruit to attack the show Most bizarre case is that spinoff show where the same fetishes happened to underage girls. Messed up really. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA <cite>htaeD posted [p:974592857] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>masterplum posted...</cite><quote>Good choice. I think it got away with it because none of the fetishes are explicit. It wasnt even Animaniac levels of innuendo, they were just plot points that some people had fetishes of.Because of that, its kind of a catch 22 where to get mad at it you had to admit you understood inflation fetishes were a fetish, and I doubt any group wanted to do that. There werent any low hanging fruit to attack the show </quote>Most bizarre case is that spinoff show where the same fetishes happened to underage girls.Messed up really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/03/23 7:27:54 AM #189:	#74: Nickelodeon Screws Over Micah Wright https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/3/0/AAAG8cAAEn9G.jpg I am Constantly in Payne thinking about what might've been. If you've never heard of Micah Wright, perhaps the biggest reason for that might be Nickelodeon's short-sighted decision to run him off the network in the early 2000s, ruining their chance at perhaps what could've been the biggest action cartoon of the decade. Wright started out as a writer on The Angry Beavers, a show that wasn't the most successful on the network but had achieved a loyal following and good critical reception. After this show was scheduled for termination by Nickelodeon, Wright and some other writers decided to join the animators' union to negotiate for better pay and more job security. At the same time, he had created the pilot for Constant Payne, an anime-styled action cartoon that would've fit right in with the shows of the time (and would've given Nickelodeon a strong action show to combat the anime of Cartoon Network's Toonami block). The pilot, albeit controversial, still had a chance to be picked up by the network, even after the September 11th attacks caused a backlash against violent children's programming. However, because of Wright's union activities, Nickelodeon ultimately decided against picking up the project, and Wright was forced out of the animation industry entirely, taking his talents to the world of comics instead. While Nickelodeon may have had solid reasons for turning down Wright's pilot, his efforts would ultimately be vindicated by the massive success of the later Avatar: The Last Airbender, which proved that anime-inspired action cartoons with gritty themes could indeed succeed at the network. One can only wonder what might've happened had Nickelodeon picked up Constant Payne. Would Toonami have gone into decline sooner? Would Teen Titans have been a success in the face of competition at Nickelodeon? Regardless of the network's reasons, Wright is a brilliant talent, and the success of Avatar proved that Nickelodeon's petty decision to cut him loose was ultimately the wrong one, and one that potentially cost us an entire alternate 2000s of action inspired cartoons, even with the excellent shows we eventually did get. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974592926] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>#74: Nickelodeon Screws Over Micah Wrighthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/3/0/AAAG8cAAEn9G.jpg I am Constantly in Payne thinking about what might've been.If you've never heard of Micah Wright, perhaps the biggest reason for that might be Nickelodeon's short-sighted decision to run him off the network in the early 2000s, ruining their chance at perhaps what could've been the biggest action cartoon of the decade. Wright started out as a writer on The Angry Beavers, a show that wasn't the most successful on the network but had achieved a loyal following and good critical reception. After this show was scheduled for termination by Nickelodeon, Wright and some other writers decided to join the animators' union to negotiate for better pay and more job security. At the same time, he had created the pilot for Constant Payne, an anime-styled action cartoon that would've fit right in with the shows of the time (and would've given Nickelodeon a strong action show to combat the anime of Cartoon Network's Toonami block). The pilot, albeit controversial, still had a chance to be picked up by the network, even after the September 11th attacks caused a backlash against violent children's programming. However, because of Wright's union activities, Nickelodeon ultimately decided against picking up the project, and Wright was forced out of the animation industry entirely, taking his talents to the world of comics instead. While Nickelodeon may have had solid reasons for turning down Wright's pilot, his efforts would ultimately be vindicated by the massive success of the later Avatar: The Last Airbender, which proved that anime-inspired action cartoons with gritty themes could indeed succeed at the network. One can only wonder what might've happened had Nickelodeon picked up Constant Payne. Would Toonami have gone into decline sooner? Would Teen Titans have been a success in the face of competition at Nickelodeon? Regardless of the network's reasons, Wright is a brilliant talent, and the success of Avatar proved that Nickelodeon's petty decision to cut him loose was ultimately the wrong one, and one that potentially cost us an entire alternate 2000s of action inspired cartoons, even with the excellent shows we eventually did get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/03/23 8:34:27 AM #190:	#73: I've Got Batman In My Basement https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/6/AAAG8cAAEn9q.jpg The Penguin sold separately. Even the greatest animated shows of all time are prone to the occasional swoon, and "I've Got Batman In My Basement", while not in and of itself a terrible episode, is still a symptom of a troubling problem that plagued a lot of kids' shows in the 80s and early 90s, and that's the desperate demands of producers and executives to "play down" to their young audiences. Whether it's to sell toys or just to "soften" a show's appeal to the younger crowds, these efforts often led to episodes that stood in stark contrast to a series' tone or setting, often in a way that proved detrimental. We got to see that in "I've Got Batman In My Basement", generally considered by fans to be the series' worst episode. After some kids follow one of the Penguin's birds to a factory, they end up stumbling onto a fight between Batman and the Penguin. Chaos ensues, and the kids wind up taking Batman back to their house, forced to protect him while he recovers from injuries sustained in the fight. During this sequence, the Penguin and his thugs attempt to break into the house, leading to a Home Alone-style series of misadventures and escapades as the kids work together to keep Batman safe. The troublesome thing about this episode is that it makes Batman look weak, and not in the way that other episodes in which he ended up incapacitated did, it makes him look weak in order to put the kids front and center, and it needed to put the kids front and center largely to appeal to younger audiences, but... if you have to use all these different plot elements to lure in younger viewers, what keeps them around for the grittier episodes later on? The greatness of Batman: The Animated Series is that despite its dark content and intense themes, it could still appeal to younger viewers without resorting to dumbing things down. It featured comic relief and restrained itself from overly violent or sexual themes, and while some things did sail over kids' heads, they could still appreciate Batman stopping the bad guys from committing crimes, or being a caring father figure to the younger Robin. The series appealed to all ages and never had to bend over backwards to do so, which is what makes "I've Got Batman In My Basement" so jarring. It's pandering, it's out of touch with the rest of the series, and it has to dumb down Batman (and the Penguin to some extent) in order to accomplish what it set out to do. It's one of the last, dying gasps of the toy obsessed 1980s, and a reminder why cartoons are better when they don't have to be so over the top about selling stuff. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974593795] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>#73: I've Got Batman In My Basementhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/6/AAAG8cAAEn9q.jpg The Penguin sold separately.Even the greatest animated shows of all time are prone to the occasional swoon, and "I've Got Batman In My Basement", while not in and of itself a terrible episode, is still a symptom of a troubling problem that plagued a lot of kids' shows in the 80s and early 90s, and that's the desperate demands of producers and executives to "play down" to their young audiences. Whether it's to sell toys or just to "soften" a show's appeal to the younger crowds, these efforts often led to episodes that stood in stark contrast to a series' tone or setting, often in a way that proved detrimental. We got to see that in "I've Got Batman In My Basement", generally considered by fans to be the series' worst episode. After some kids follow one of the Penguin's birds to a factory, they end up stumbling onto a fight between Batman and the Penguin. Chaos ensues, and the kids wind up taking Batman back to their house, forced to protect him while he recovers from injuries sustained in the fight. During this sequence, the Penguin and his thugs attempt to break into the house, leading to a Home Alone-style series of misadventures and escapades as the kids work together to keep Batman safe. The troublesome thing about this episode is that it makes Batman look weak, and not in the way that other episodes in which he ended up incapacitated did, it makes him look weak in order to put the kids front and center, and it needed to put the kids front and center largely to appeal to younger audiences, but... if you have to use all these different plot elements to lure in younger viewers, what keeps them around for the grittier episodes later on? The greatness of Batman: The Animated Series is that despite its dark content and intense themes, it could still appeal to younger viewers without resorting to dumbing things down. It featured comic relief and restrained itself from overly violent or sexual themes, and while some things did sail over kids' heads, they could still appreciate Batman stopping the bad guys from committing crimes, or being a caring father figure to the younger Robin. The series appealed to all ages and never had to bend over backwards to do so, which is what makes "I've Got Batman In My Basement" so jarring. It's pandering, it's out of touch with the rest of the series, and it has to dumb down Batman (and the Penguin to some extent) in order to accomplish what it set out to do. It's one of the last, dying gasps of the toy obsessed 1980s, and a reminder why cartoons are better when they don't have to be so over the top about selling stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/03/23 8:41:10 AM #191:	I'm learning so much from this topic. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:974593895] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>I'm learning so much from this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 07/03/23 9:35:18 AM #192:	I wonder if 4kids One Piece gets in here. So much crazy poorly thought our censorship. Zoro being changed to Zolo. People being scared of cork guns and rubber hammers. A plot important whale being turned into an iceberg. A dead mom being "put in the dungeon" instead, and then presumably left there after the villains are defeated because the crew stay around for days afterwards and nobody mentions her, including her daughters. Oh the show seemingly ending with the strawhat crew being killed by falling wreckage. --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:974594776] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if 4kids One Piece gets in here. So much crazy poorly thought our censorship. Zoro being changed to Zolo. People being scared of cork guns and rubber hammers. A plot important whale being turned into an iceberg. A dead mom being "put in the dungeon" instead, and then presumably left there after the villains are defeated because the crew stay around for days afterwards and nobody mentions her, including her daughters. Oh the show seemingly ending with the strawhat crew being killed by falling wreckage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RySenkari 07/03/23 10:18:49 AM #193:	#72: Worldwide Day Of Play https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/2/AAAG8cAAEn-i.jpg Worldwide Day of playing Xbox, maybe. From 2004 to 2019, Nickelodeon had a well-meaning but obviously short-sighted campaign in which they would cease showing their normal programming in favor of popping a message on screen encouraging kids to go outside and play. On the surface, this seemed fine: there's nothing wrong with a television network encouraging kids to get up and participate in physical activity. But... let's break this down for just a moment and you'll quickly realize where this campaign went horribly wrong. In a world where Cartoon Network and the Disney Channel exist, for example, kids can just change the channel. There are video games available as well, so... kids had a lot of options that didn't involve going outside. Parents have been trying to get kids to go outside for years, you think Nickelodeon's going to be able to do it? And, of course, there are kids who can't just go out and play. Kids with disabilities, kids forced to spend that Saturday in the hospital... imaging being a sick kid with cancer and just wanting to enjoy some Nickelodeon after chemo, and laying there in that bed and seeing a message telling you to go out and play. Nickelodeon actually once had a much more successful and fun campaign to encourage kids to get out into the world: The Big Help, a marathon in which Nick celebrities encouraged kids to volunteer their time with local charities. They had concerts and contests and top 10 countdowns and it was a day to look forward to every year, and it actually did lead to lots of kid-driven volunteer projects around the country. If you just turn off the TV, kids will look for something else to watch. The fact that it took Nickelodeon 16 years to figure this out is just sad, but it's taken them longer to correct their mistakes before, as we'll see later on in the list. --- This signature won't change until Chrono Trigger gets a re-release on a modern Nintendo console. <cite>RySenkari posted [p:974595409] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>#72: Worldwide Day Of Playhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/2/AAAG8cAAEn-i.jpg Worldwide Day of playing Xbox, maybe.From 2004 to 2019, Nickelodeon had a well-meaning but obviously short-sighted campaign in which they would cease showing their normal programming in favor of popping a message on screen encouraging kids to go outside and play. On the surface, this seemed fine: there's nothing wrong with a television network encouraging kids to get up and participate in physical activity. But... let's break this down for just a moment and you'll quickly realize where this campaign went horribly wrong. In a world where Cartoon Network and the Disney Channel exist, for example, kids can just change the channel. There are video games available as well, so... kids had a lot of options that didn't involve going outside. Parents have been trying to get kids to go outside for years, you think Nickelodeon's going to be able to do it? And, of course, there are kids who can't just go out and play. Kids with disabilities, kids forced to spend that Saturday in the hospital... imaging being a sick kid with cancer and just wanting to enjoy some Nickelodeon after chemo, and laying there in that bed and seeing a message telling you to go out and play. Nickelodeon actually once had a much more successful and fun campaign to encourage kids to get out into the world: The Big Help, a marathon in which Nick celebrities encouraged kids to volunteer their time with local charities. They had concerts and contests and top 10 countdowns and it was a day to look forward to every year, and it actually did lead to lots of kid-driven volunteer projects around the country. If you just turn off the TV, kids will look for something else to watch. The fact that it took Nickelodeon 16 years to figure this out is just sad, but it's taken them longer to correct their mistakes before, as we'll see later on in the list.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 07/03/23 10:25:35 AM #194:	I was such a spiteful little bastard I stared at that screen for more time than I would've spent watching TV normally --- What can the harvest hope for if not for the care of the Reaper Man? <cite>NFUN posted [p:974595495] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>I was such a spiteful little bastard I stared at that screen for more time than I would've spent watching TV normally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 07/03/23 10:36:42 AM #195:	RySenkari posted... #73: I've Got Batman In My Basement I liked this episode. =/ Dunno if I would today, but I liked it then, anyhow. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:974595671] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>RySenkari posted... </cite><quote>#73: I've Got Batman In My Basement</quote>I liked this episode. =/Dunno if I would today, but I liked it then, anyhow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 07/03/23 10:38:56 AM #196:	Obligatory Batman TAS plug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdg4glpCkg Have you even seen the Joker's face with so much outright disappointment before? ~~Also remember, this is Batman disguised as Croc. The others all think Croc is indeed this dumb.~~ --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:974595712] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Obligatory Batman TAS plug:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEdg4glpCkgHave you even seen the Joker's face with so much outright disappointment before?Also remember, this is Batman disguised as Croc. The others all think Croc is indeed this dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 07/03/23 10:40:54 AM #197:	Its a testament to how great BTAS is that Ive got Batman is my basement is still a decent episode. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:974595749] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Its a testament to how great BTAS is that Ive got Batman is my basement is still a decent episode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/03/23 10:49:32 AM #198:	azuarc posted... I liked this episode. =/ Dunno if I would today, but I liked it then, anyhow. I liked it too but also I was the target audience when it came out. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:974595902] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>I liked this episode. =/Dunno if I would today, but I liked it then, anyhow.</quote>I liked it too but also I was the target audience when it came out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 07/03/23 10:55:12 AM #199:	its not great, but Im not sure its fair to attribute such crass commercial motivations to the episodes creation. Sometimes they just did nonstandard episodes of the show. With Almost Had Him it worked, with Batman in my Basement it didnt. --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:974596010] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>its not great, but Im not sure its fair to attribute such crass commercial motivations to the episodes creation. Sometimes they just did nonstandard episodes of the show. With Almost Had Him it worked, with Batman in my Basement it didnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 07/03/23 10:59:08 AM #200:	RySenkari posted... #72: Worldwide Day Of Play https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/2/AAAG8cAAEn-i.jpg Worldwide Day of playing Xbox, maybe. From 2004 to 2019, Nickelodeon had a well-meaning but obviously short-sighted campaign in which they would cease showing their normal programming in favor of popping a message on screen encouraging kids to go outside and play. On the surface, this seemed fine: there's nothing wrong with a television network encouraging kids to get up and participate in physical activity. But... let's break this down for just a moment and you'll quickly realize where this campaign went horribly wrong. In a world where Cartoon Network and the Disney Channel exist, for example, kids can just change the channel. There are video games available as well, so... kids had a lot of options that didn't involve going outside. Parents have been trying to get kids to go outside for years, you think Nickelodeon's going to be able to do it? And, of course, there are kids who can't just go out and play. Kids with disabilities, kids forced to spend that Saturday in the hospital... imaging being a sick kid with cancer and just wanting to enjoy some Nickelodeon after chemo, and laying there in that bed and seeing a message telling you to go out and play. Nickelodeon actually once had a much more successful and fun campaign to encourage kids to get out into the world: The Big Help, a marathon in which Nick celebrities encouraged kids to volunteer their time with local charities. They had concerts and contests and top 10 countdowns and it was a day to look forward to every year, and it actually did lead to lots of kid-driven volunteer projects around the country. If you just turn off the TV, kids will look for something else to watch. The fact that it took Nickelodeon 16 years to figure this out is just sad, but it's taken them longer to correct their mistakes before, as we'll see later on in the list. Feels like this would have been much more successful if they teamed up with other stations to also do this. But if Cartoon network was still showing then this seems really short sighted --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:974596078] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>RySenkari posted... </cite><quote>#72: Worldwide Day Of Playhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/2/AAAG8cAAEn-i.jpg Worldwide Day of playing Xbox, maybe.From 2004 to 2019, Nickelodeon had a well-meaning but obviously short-sighted campaign in which they would cease showing their normal programming in favor of popping a message on screen encouraging kids to go outside and play. On the surface, this seemed fine: there's nothing wrong with a television network encouraging kids to get up and participate in physical activity. But... let's break this down for just a moment and you'll quickly realize where this campaign went horribly wrong. In a world where Cartoon Network and the Disney Channel exist, for example, kids can just change the channel. There are video games available as well, so... kids had a lot of options that didn't involve going outside. Parents have been trying to get kids to go outside for years, you think Nickelodeon's going to be able to do it? And, of course, there are kids who can't just go out and play. Kids with disabilities, kids forced to spend that Saturday in the hospital... imaging being a sick kid with cancer and just wanting to enjoy some Nickelodeon after chemo, and laying there in that bed and seeing a message telling you to go out and play. Nickelodeon actually once had a much more successful and fun campaign to encourage kids to get out into the world: The Big Help, a marathon in which Nick celebrities encouraged kids to volunteer their time with local charities. They had concerts and contests and top 10 countdowns and it was a day to look forward to every year, and it actually did lead to lots of kid-driven volunteer projects around the country. If you just turn off the TV, kids will look for something else to watch. The fact that it took Nickelodeon 16 years to figure this out is just sad, but it's taken them longer to correct their mistakes before, as we'll see later on in the list.</quote>Feels like this would have been much more successful if they teamed up with other stations to also do this.But if Cartoon network was still showing then this seems really short sighted</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 07/03/23 11:28:48 AM #201:	Maniac64 posted... I wonder if 4kids One Piece gets in here. So much crazy poorly thought our censorship. Zoro being changed to Zolo. People being scared of cork guns and rubber hammers. A plot important whale being turned into an iceberg. A dead mom being "put in the dungeon" instead, and then presumably left there after the villains are defeated because the crew stay around for days afterwards and nobody mentions her, including her daughters. Oh the show seemingly ending with the strawhat crew being killed by falling wreckage. Feel like it probably has to show up somewhere. Even 4kids themselves knew it was a terrible idea. --- Chilly McFreeze https://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:974596632] in The 100 Du... [t:80493929]...</cite> <quote>Maniac64 posted... </cite><quote>I wonder if 4kids One Piece gets in here. So much crazy poorly thought our censorship. Zoro being changed to Zolo. People being scared of cork guns and rubber hammers. A plot important whale being turned into an iceberg. A dead mom being "put in the dungeon" instead, and then presumably left there after the villains are defeated because the crew stay around for days afterwards and nobody mentions her, including her daughters. Oh the show seemingly ending with the strawhat crew being killed by falling wreckage.</quote>Feel like it probably has to show up somewhere. Even 4kids themselves knew it was a terrible idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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