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ooger
07/03/23 12:45:05 AM
#51:


NocturneD85 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/5/1/AAMhkDAAEn3L.jpg

Gamera is really neat, Gamera is filled with meat, We've been eating Gamera!!

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TetsuoS2
07/03/23 12:49:02 AM
#52:


sabin017 posted...
not turtley enough for the turtle club

them racist turtles

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Smashingpmkns
07/03/23 12:50:24 AM
#53:


Banning a pet that is either in the house or backyard is dumb as fuck. It's fucked that the HOA can even look at your private backyard, take pictures of it, and tell you to change shit. How tf is that anyone's god damn business

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Ricemills
07/03/23 12:52:15 AM
#54:


I don't understand why HOA exist.
You join them to let some people dictate your household?

The concept is just unfamiliar to me.

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TetsuoS2
07/03/23 12:55:39 AM
#55:


it's supposed to be for solving issues without devolving into violence like that asshole neighbor whose dog barks 25/8 and sings karaoke at 3am.

instead shit like this happens.

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DarkBuster22904
07/03/23 12:58:12 AM
#56:


Ricemills posted...
I don't understand why HOA exist.
You join them to let some people dictate your household?

The concept is just unfamiliar to me.
In theory, they help manage community amenities. You pay tour fees, and they upkeep public/shared spaces, pools, whatever. And their policies are meant to make sure the community's collective property value stays high, so they stop members from doing things that might bring down a neighbor's property value.

In practice, it's usually a bunch of rich, bored geezers cosplaying as politicians and getting anal retention about anyone's grass being a 16th of an inch too long, or leaving the trash can out an hour past collection time. And these bastards have the legal power to fine the hell out of you for whatever they decide is a "violation."

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HylianFox
07/03/23 12:59:26 AM
#57:


Did they learn nothing from Gamera?

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Revelation34
07/03/23 1:01:31 AM
#58:


Carljank posted...
Mount an auto turret (with nerf rounds of course) to its shell?


Richard Glassel reborn?

Jaguar34 posted...
They didn't mention how they clean the turtle poop which may be an issue to joggers.

When you read the story and hear the tortoise is outside and is eating the lawn grass, I can kind of get it.


The irony. You clearly didn't read the article which contains the word "backyard".

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ForsakenHermit
07/03/23 3:34:16 AM
#59:


HOA's should be illegal.

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xGhostchantx
07/03/23 3:41:54 AM
#60:


How do HOAs that do this operate in places like, say, Florida? How are they not getting shot all the time down there? These creepers will literally come to your fence and peer in the god damn yard or try to peek through windows.

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spikethedevil
07/03/23 4:05:21 AM
#61:


Requiem posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/1/AAAgM2AAEn2P.jpg
Ok, I thought it was about one of those small turtles the size of a phone.
This is something else.

I mean hes a Tortoise not a Turtle

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spikethedevil
07/03/23 4:06:43 AM
#62:


Jaguar34 posted...
They didn't mention how they clean the turtle poop which may be an issue to joggers.

When you read the story and hear the tortoise is outside and is eating the lawn grass, I can kind of get it.

@Jaguar34

Read the story properly then come back.

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MabusIncarnate
07/03/23 4:11:54 AM
#63:


spikethedevil posted...
I mean hes a Tortoise not a Turtle
Various tortoises and turtles get large and small, idk what this comment is. Oh it's spike, nvm.

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Kazer
07/03/23 4:15:44 AM
#64:


ProfessorKukui posted...
must be a vicious attack tortoise
Maybe even as vicious as a pit Bull. :O

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spikethedevil
07/03/23 4:16:42 AM
#65:


MabusIncarnate posted...
Various tortoises and turtles get large and small, idk what this comment is. Oh it's spike, nvm.

True but theyre still different species.

Heres a giant Turtle chilling on the beach.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/2/AAMTIRAAEn7u.jpg

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YourBestFrenemy
07/03/23 4:42:33 AM
#66:


spikethedevil posted...
True but theyre still different species.

Heres a giant Turtle chilling on the beach.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/2/AAMTIRAAEn7u.jpg

That thing is HUGE! It's practically a fucking kaiju!

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Kloe_Rinz
07/03/23 5:08:42 AM
#67:


Revelation34 posted...
Richard Glassel reborn?

The irony. You clearly didn't read the article which contains the word "backyard".
even if its the front yard, joggers dont have any business anywhere other than the footpath in front of the property
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evilpresident
07/03/23 5:23:10 AM
#69:


How much of a moustache twirling villain do you have to be to get a child get rid of their beloved pet? And it's a goddamned tortoise. Do they even make noise?

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deoxxys
07/03/23 5:44:11 AM
#70:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Why do people on this board keep defending HOAs?
Maybe because a majority of HOA just keep homes and yards from looking trashy?

Without them you would have people:
  • refusing to cut their grass
  • painting trashy art of their houses and fences
  • littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
  • storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
  • keeping farm animals

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TonyKojima
07/03/23 5:46:40 AM
#71:


deoxxys posted...
Maybe because a majority of HOA just keep homes and yards from looking trashy?

Without them you would have people:
* refusing to cut their grass
* painting trashy art of their houses and fences
* littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
* storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
* keeping farm animals
So?

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Prismsblade
07/03/23 5:51:42 AM
#72:


I've lived in my HOA condo for a few months now with no issues. The community is clean, and well maintained, neighbors are all kind and on the same page on top of being invested in the community's well and keeping out problem neighbors that would disturb said bring.

They arent perfect but the hate is way overblown. Especially when majority of these complaints are applicableto renting as well. More so even.

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deoxxys
07/03/23 5:52:02 AM
#73:


TonyKojima posted...
So?
im good not living in a trailer park like conditions thanks

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Ricemills
07/03/23 5:52:58 AM
#74:


deoxxys posted...
Maybe because a majority of HOA just keep homes and yards from looking trashy?

Without them you would have people:
* refusing to cut their grass
* painting trashy art of their houses and fences
* littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
* storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
* keeping farm animals

I see, so Americans are a barely functioning society.
None of those wouldn't happen in civilized countries, those are the things you'd expect from shithole countries.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/03/23 5:59:06 AM
#75:


deoxxys posted...
refusing to cut their grass
oh no, anyway...

deoxxys posted...
painting trashy art of their houses and fences
oh no, anyway...

deoxxys posted...
littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
oh no, anyway...

deoxxys posted...
storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
oh no, anyway...

deoxxys posted...
keeping farm animals
oh no, anyway...

Listen, literally every complaint you've posted is literally none of your business unless you plan on paying their bills for them. Are you planning on paying their bills and mortgage for them? Because if not, its none of your business what someone else does with their property
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Revelation34
07/03/23 6:01:54 AM
#76:


deoxxys posted...

Maybe because a majority of HOA just keep homes and yards from looking trashy?

<u>Without them you would have people: </u>
* refusing to cut their grass
* painting trashy art of their houses and fences
* littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
* storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
* keeping farm animals


All of this is better than any HOA existing.

Prismsblade posted...
I've lived in my HOA condo for a few months now with no issues. The community is clean, and well maintained, neighbors are all kind and on the same page on top of being invested in the community's well and keeping out problem neighbors that would disturb said bring.

They arent perfect but the hate is way overblown. Especially when majority of these complaints are applicableto renting as well. More so even.


There's no such thing when it comes to HOAs.

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deoxxys
07/03/23 6:06:57 AM
#77:


lmao okay sure yall wanna live in a trashy neighborhood thats on you.

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divot1338
07/03/23 6:20:01 AM
#78:


We just got one of our homeowners to run against them. Voter turnout is about as bad for HOAs as regular election so its pretty easy to unload a sufficiently dickish board member.

In our case it was an excop who treated his new job like his old one.

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Sad_Face
07/03/23 6:47:33 AM
#79:


Prismsblade posted...
I've lived in my HOA condo for a few months now with no issues. The community is clean, and well maintained, neighbors are all kind and on the same page on top of being invested in the community's well and keeping out problem neighbors that would disturb said bring.

They arent perfect but the hate is way overblown. Especially when majority of these complaints are applicableto renting as well. More so even.

I live in a low income neighborhood and beyond the constant littering, we had an issue where a crackhead returned to his property that his mother left him. He routinely brought in trash to pick through and leave the remains out his property out on the alleyway to his and everyone else's houses (there's one walking path to our houses and his was the closest to the main road). He would invite other homeless guys to live with as a good Samaritan, but then they would constantly argue about him stealing from them. Even worse, one was a convicted felon for murder and I'd wake up to him threatening to kill the crackhead owner multiple times a week. Then multiple occasions I've had to run in to put out a fire in his house since he didn't have power in his house for some reason nor did he have running water. And of course, with no running water, the place smelt of human excretion. And weekly, I had to come in to feed those guys since they were penniless.

That chapter ended a couple years back, and while my neighborhood situation was an extreme case, I'd pay for a property within a HOA community if I could afford it. If I have to price people out to uphold a certain standard of behavior in a community, so be it. Sick of this shit.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/03/23 6:49:20 AM
#80:


deoxxys posted...
lmao okay sure yall wanna live in a trashy neighborhood thats on you.

Kloe_Rinz posted...
Are you planning on paying their bills and mortgage for them?

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Ultima_Fury
07/03/23 6:53:09 AM
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divot1338
07/03/23 7:13:18 AM
#82:


evilpresident posted...
How much of a moustache twirling villain do you have to be to get a child get rid of their beloved pet? And it's a goddamned tortoise. Do they even make noise?
I wouldnt even do that to a pet.

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Prismsblade
07/03/23 7:21:03 AM
#83:


Sad_Face posted...
That chapter ended a couple years back, and while my neighborhood situation was an extreme case, I'd pay for a property within a HOA community if I could afford it. If I have to price people out to uphold a certain standard of behavior in a community, so be it. Sick of this s***.
Price isn't the only gatekeeper but also the HOAs rules. So even if a undiresable can afford the mortgages and HOA thanks to drug money doesn't mean their be able to follow them along with maintaining a good behavior.

Also I wouldn't give up on them that fast. Many are cheap and can be near even the worst of citys. Mines being one of worst in the country, but is beautiful with neighbors that feel safe enough to walk around leisurely, and I actually see wild life on a regular basis.

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/23 9:29:30 AM
#84:


spikethedevil posted...
I mean hes a Tortoise not a Turtle
He's also a turtle.


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Tyranthraxus
07/03/23 9:30:59 AM
#85:


TonyKojima posted...
So?

Muh property value!!!

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ooger
07/03/23 9:39:03 AM
#86:


Ultima_Fury posted...
https://youtu.be/qrizmAo17Os
this

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Ruvan22
07/03/23 10:50:10 AM
#87:


Sad_Face posted...
I live in a low income neighborhood and beyond the constant littering, we had an issue where a crackhead returned to his property that his mother left him. He routinely brought in trash to pick through and leave the remains out his property out on the alleyway to his and everyone else's houses (there's one walking path to our houses and his was the closest to the main road). He would invite other homeless guys to live with as a good Samaritan, but then they would constantly argue about him stealing from them. Even worse, one was a convicted felon for murder and I'd wake up to him threatening to kill the crackhead owner multiple times a week. Then multiple occasions I've had to run in to put out a fire in his house since he didn't have power in his house for some reason nor did he have running water. And of course, with no running water, the place smelt of human excretion. And weekly, I had to come in to feed those guys since they were penniless.

That chapter ended a couple years back, and while my neighborhood situation was an extreme case, I'd pay for a property within a HOA community if I could afford it. If I have to price people out to uphold a certain standard of behavior in a community, so be it. Sick of this shit.

Wow sorry you had to go through that...

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/23 11:00:37 AM
#88:


Ruvan22 posted...
I'm in the US but not familiar with HOA - can they prohibit residents based on legal history?

Yes. There's nearly no restrictions. There's entire communities around needing to meet some weird specific metric. Like 2 miles away from me is a small neighborhood where you have to be 65 or older to own property there and you're not allowed to rent or Airbnb.

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DarkBuster22904
07/03/23 11:04:35 AM
#89:


Ruvan22 posted...
Wow sorry you had to go through that...

I'm in the US but not familiar with HOA - can they prohibit residents based on legal history?
I dont know. But they shouldn't.

Lord knows we put enough barriers in the way of ex cons without some unity board of rich retirees prohibiting them from buying houses. Or living in houses they legally own, for that matter.

I sympathize with Sad_Face, I really do. But no private, separate entity should have the power to seize a property that you legally own and force you out on the street. If illegal and dangerous shit is happening there, let the police handle it. That's not the job of some wannabe neighborhood legislator.

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theAteam
07/03/23 11:17:38 AM
#90:


TonyKojima posted...
So?

The idea is those things bring down property values for the rest of the neighborhood for being unsightly and/or an indicator to potential buyers that the neighbors aren't ideal.

The point of an HOA is to keep up property values for the houses within them by making things look nice and pristine. Frankly I'd rather not be in one because I had to submit plans to a committee for my landscaping and to put a dog door in but they were both approved no questions asked pretty quickly. Sure they provided the common areas and maintain them but I haven't really used those yet.

But it's almost impossible these days to get a new construction house without having to be in one. I read somewhere that municipalities are forcing developers to implement them for all new construction because the municipalities are offloading utility and road maintenance to the HOAs because they don't have the tax revenue to go maintain those things for every neighborhood.

Unfortunately I don't see it ending anytime soon though you can always get on the board and try to get a vote passed to dissolve the HOA.

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ooger
07/03/23 11:22:20 AM
#91:


I will never live in an HOA.

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Sorozone
07/03/23 11:23:46 AM
#92:


theAteam posted...
The point of an HOA is to keep up property values for the houses within them by making things look nice and pristine.

Well yes, but housing shouldn't be an investment to keep up with capitol gains. It's why this country is completely fucked. HOA's are just another blight on an already cancerous situation.

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Sir_Will
07/03/23 1:08:57 PM
#93:


deoxxys posted...
Maybe because a majority of HOA just keep homes and yards from looking trashy?

Without them you would have people:
* refusing to cut their grass
* painting trashy art of their houses and fences
* littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
* storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
* keeping farm animals
I don't know about the US but in Canada municipalities can control that sort of thing. It's not as micromanagy as HoAs but could get involved if a property is looking too disheveled. And it certainly controls livestock (some will allow chickens, some won't for instance).

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/23 2:00:29 PM
#94:


Sir_Will posted...
I don't know about the US but in Canada municipalities can control that sort of thing. It's not as micromanagy as HoAs but could get involved if a property is looking too disheveled. And it certainly controls livestock (some will allow chickens, some won't for instance).
We don't have municipalities in most places in America. The city is usually the lowest bloc. HoAs function more like a union.

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Sandalorn
07/03/23 2:10:14 PM
#95:


Priere posted...
This is when you play their game.

Go to every single house on the street and document any HOA violations and turn in a formal list of complaints that you have. Make everyone suffer.


I wouldn't do it to every house but those petty fuckers that literally sit at home hoping to wield power through a HOA, I would make their lives miserable. Any day off, just sit outside their property and wait until they make a mistake (even for a second) and then record and file it. Every day.

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Sandalorn
07/03/23 2:12:00 PM
#96:


Ah yes...That "grass needs to be cut" issue that brings down the value of a house by 250,000!!

/eyeroll.

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Rexdragon125
07/03/23 2:21:45 PM
#97:


deoxxys posted...
Maybe because a majority of HOA just keep homes and yards from looking trashy?

Without them you would have people:
* refusing to cut their grass
* painting trashy art of their houses and fences
* littering their yards with gaudy lawn ornaments
* storing junk like broken lawnmowers, washing machines, etc
* keeping farm animals
And other heinous crimes like

Not repainting your house every year
Having off white curtains on a Tuesday
Having a single dandelion in your lawn
Parking your car outside the garage
Not powerwashing your driveway once a week

Other random bullshit they can get you for because you're a minority
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TheMikh
07/03/23 2:23:57 PM
#98:


every HOA in america needs to be replaced with groups of tortoises

HOAs are a racket

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Solar_Crimson
07/03/23 2:26:17 PM
#99:


chaos_knight posted...
HOAs need to be illegal, but America won't ever ban anything that the rich support.


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tripleh213
07/03/23 2:29:49 PM
#100:


spikethedevil posted...
True but theyre still different species.

Heres a giant Turtle chilling on the beach.

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