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creativerealms
07/02/23 5:44:10 PM
#51:


Yeah and if you thing republicans are the pro-freedom party you need to actually look at what republican politicians are doing. I don't see banning books or taking away water breaks from workers as "pro-freedom."

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iCurious
07/02/23 5:44:26 PM
#52:


EthanSilver posted...
This is what I mean by "easily" manipulated sheep.

First thing Rep's did when they had full control under Trump, while dramaqueening about "Da MIGRANTS<!" left and right...

Is permanent tax cuts for the rich.

As a pleb, you'll still pay taxes. Clown.

Eh, financially things were much better for me under Trump, and I'm not rich. What exactly has Biden done to improve the lives of "the plebs"?

And to be clear, I don't like either party at this point. Much like so many on this board, I generally support the Republican side solely because it's the lesser of...well, the lesser of one half of one evil I suppose.

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McMarbles
07/02/23 5:44:27 PM
#53:


A_Good_Boy posted...
What's being controlled? Which freedoms is she talking about?
You know. The ones.

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EthanSilver
07/02/23 5:50:56 PM
#54:


iCurious posted...
What exactly has Biden done to improve the lives of "the plebs"?
In general terms, just having the rich pay more of their share in terms of taxes is a step in the right direction. In terms of funding social services for the plebs.

I don't like taxes either, but like going to work, it's just a lame thing that must be done. A "membership," if you will. Do one's part with what they are able to with.

I mean, I don't have and maintain my own army. Have or maintain my own customer base. Etc... I don't want to be leach, and we shouldn't encourage such behavior from the more well to do peeps. Reap the benefits of functional society/government, and not do one's part. I mean, what is that. How's that okay?
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asdf8562
07/02/23 5:53:27 PM
#55:


EthanSilver posted...
She's right.

Take trans issues and abortion. Republicans will "small" government you into submission.
I didn't click on the link but judging based off how she said Democrats vs Republicans and Control vs Freedom... I have to ask are we sure she isn't calling Republicans the party of freedom?
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Heineken14
07/02/23 6:43:28 PM
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iCurious posted...


Eh, financially things were much better for me under Trump, and I'm not rich. What exactly has Biden done to improve the lives of "the plebs"?

And to be clear, I don't like either party at this point. Much like so many on this board, I generally support the Republican side solely because it's the lesser of...well, the lesser of one half of one evil I suppose.


Uh huh. Right.

So what specifically did republicans give and try to give under Donnie to help the average person? What are their current plans to fight things like climate change, inflation, gas prices, and healthcare? Why have they not introduced any bills to enact any of those changes?

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Holy shit. Please explain how Democrats are the EVIL party when republicans have 0bpolicyboutside of "trigger the libs." The party that has run such a massive disinformation campaign trying to destroy all forms of government to seize power. That continues rallying around and supporting the only president in our history to actively incite an insurrection to install himself as dictator. Who continually strip away rights from citizens. Please. I'm all ears.

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KajeI
07/02/23 6:49:06 PM
#58:


Haven't got to post these in ages.

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KajeI
07/02/23 6:49:37 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/8/AAURIdAAEn3c.png
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Now obviously a lot of these aren't quite up to date, but I think the point's made.

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BunkerBoy
07/02/23 6:52:19 PM
#60:


twanderer posted...
You aren't living in the real world.
A Republican saying this is fucking hilarious
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iCurious
07/02/23 6:53:04 PM
#61:


EthanSilver posted...
In general terms, just having the rich pay more of their share in terms of taxes is a step in the right direction. In terms of funding social services for the plebs.

I don't like taxes either, but like going to work, it's just a lame thing that must be done. A "membership," if you will. Do one's part with what they are able to with.

I mean, I don't have and maintain my own army. Have or maintain my own customer base. Etc... I don't want to be leach, and we shouldn't encourage such behavior from the more well to do peeps. Reap the benefits of functional society/government, and not do one's part. I mean, what is that. How's that okay?

I suppose, but they're excessive. There's also often the matter of what massive projects are being funded by tax dollars. Getting hit with a huge tax increase to fund a polarizing project that you openly oppose is no good.

Like student loan forgiveness? I personally owe quite a bit in student loans, but having them disappear isn't fair to anyone before me that took out student loans and already paid them back. Because now they'll be taxed for it, and gain nothing. In fact they'll have paid thousands of dollars only to then be charged more money to help pay for someone else's debt.

Government is constantly using tax dollars to fund shit that people don't want funded, and ignoring anything that would actually benefit the tax payer until it can't be ignored anymore.

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CountCorvinus
07/02/23 6:56:09 PM
#62:


Notti posted...
If she is for Libertarians or Republicans, Conservatives, or Right Wingers, she doesn't actually support Liberty. (Or freedom, or common sense)


That's Arielle Scarcella.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Arielle_Scarcella

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ai123
07/02/23 6:57:44 PM
#63:


Since Republicans started banning green energy, limiting healthcare choices, and creating lists of forbidden books, it's clear that they have forfeited any claim to be the 'party of freedom' in favour of their shit-for-brains crusade against 'The Woke'

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HylianFox
07/02/23 7:03:51 PM
#64:


*Versus

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KajeI
07/02/23 7:04:42 PM
#65:


iCurious posted...
Government is constantly using tax dollars to fund shit that people don't want funded, and ignoring anything that would actually benefit the tax payer until it can't be ignored anymore.
And somehow you think the Reds are the lesser of two evils. Curious indeed.

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BunkerBoy
07/02/23 7:06:14 PM
#66:


KajeI posted...
And somehow you think the Reds are the lesser of two evils. Curious indeed.
He doesn't know much of anything. Dude supported Donald Trump, including with the 1/6 shit
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DarkChozoGhost
07/02/23 7:09:44 PM
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He's also lying and pretending he was better off financially when Trump was president. It's not true.

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CSCA33
07/02/23 7:16:59 PM
#69:


iCurious posted...
Doesn't work out that way when your hands are full trying to stop people from reimagining the fabric of society. As I said, the changes often work out to "revert this thing over here that got ruined 25 years ago".



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Villain_S_Fiend
07/02/23 7:18:39 PM
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I assume her logic is "democrat = control" and "republican = freedom", which makes her a fucking idiot.

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Carljank
07/02/23 7:19:12 PM
#71:


Illiterate imbeciles

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Heineken14
07/02/23 7:20:26 PM
#72:


CSCA33 posted...





Yeah. I suspect there will be no further clarification on that.

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creativerealms
07/02/23 7:23:27 PM
#73:


iCurious posted...
Democrats are different in this regard?
Democrats do the bare minimum to help the average man while republicans do everything in their power to make their lives worse.

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Carljank
07/02/23 7:25:37 PM
#74:


Hornezz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/1/AAfBGKAADbyb.jpg
Fuck he looks like he smells like shit.

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iCurious
07/02/23 7:53:12 PM
#75:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


In this case, it would directly benefit the people paying into them, if they hadn't just spent years paying off their own debt. Imagine finally finishing your last payment on $90,000 in loans, and the next day hearing that loans are forgiven and being passed on to taxes. You finished, now you can pay extra in taxes to let someone else slide past the last 30 years you spent making steady payments? It's neither fair nor warranted. Find another way to address the student debt issue for the future, without punishing people that paid already.

Heineken14 posted...
Uh huh. Right.

So what specifically did republicans give and try to give under Donnie to help the average person? What are their current plans to fight things like climate change, inflation, gas prices, and healthcare? Why have they not introduced any bills to enact any of those changes?

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Holy shit. Please explain how Democrats are the EVIL party when republicans have 0bpolicyboutside of "trigger the libs." The party that has run such a massive disinformation campaign trying to destroy all forms of government to seize power. That continues rallying around and supporting the only president in our history to actively incite an insurrection to install himself as dictator. Who continually strip away rights from citizens. Please. I'm all ears

Is this, "sealioning"? To answer that list of questions would require an essay that you would ignore even if I did write it, and one you've heard before (you live on a politics board, there's nothing I can tell you). We had energy independence under Trump, we have these gas prices now due to actions taken by the Biden admin to placate climate change activists like yourself. This list would go on.

The only way to get you those answers is for you to find your preferred sources that will validate your existing opinion. Why even ask such a broad, general series of questions? You clearly remember me posting on 261 prior to 2020. You should know insurmountable disagreement is all there is to discuss.

And again, I don't like either party, but the Republicans do less to break things and occasionally address things the Democrats have done. They are largely ineffectual and useless like most politicians, which is simply preferable to being actively detrimental, as Democrats tend to be. Obviously, you see the inverse of this. Which brings me back around to why even ask, when anything I say will simply be viewed through an inverting lens anyway?

DarkChozoGhost posted...
He's also lying and pretending he was better off financially when Trump was president. It's not true.

And you base this statement on...what? Are you monitoring my bank account?

Heineken14 posted...
Yeah. I suspect there will be no further clarification on that.

Is there something specific that happened 25 years ago? I don't know what if so, but you're probably right. There's like half a dozen opinions that likely land an instant suspension here and I wouldn't bother making it that easy. It'll happen sooner or later without any help on my part if I keep posting here.

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asdf8562
07/02/23 7:53:48 PM
#76:


Hornezz posted...
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Your average Trump support
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AldousIsDead
07/02/23 7:54:51 PM
#77:


Hornezz posted...
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Ma'am your boob is hanging out.

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Heineken14
07/02/23 8:00:38 PM
#78:


iCurious posted...
Is there something specific that happened 25 years ago? I don't know what if so, but you're probably right. There's like half a dozen opinions that likely land an instant suspension here and I wouldn't bother making it that easy. It'll happen sooner or later without any help on my part if I keep posting here.


Hah, I KNEW you crying Bout mods would be the cop out.

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Heineken14
07/02/23 8:01:51 PM
#79:


iCurious posted...


In this case, it would directly benefit the people paying into them, if they hadn't just spent years paying off their own debt. Imagine finally finishing your last payment on $90,000 in loans, and the next day hearing that loans are forgiven and being passed on to taxes. You finished, now you can pay extra in taxes to let someone else slide past the last 30 years you spent making steady payments? It's neither fair nor warranted. Find another way to address the student debt issue for the future, without punishing people that paid already.

Is this, "sealioning"? To answer that list of questions would require an essay that you would ignore even if I did write it, and one you've heard before (you live on a politics board, there's nothing I can tell you). We had energy independence under Trump, we have these gas prices now due to actions taken by the Biden admin to placate climate change activists like yourself. This list would go on.

The only way to get you those answers is for you to find your preferred sources that will validate your existing opinion. Why even ask such a broad, general series of questions? You clearly remember me posting on 261 prior to 2020. You should know insurmountable disagreement is all there is to discuss.

And again, I don't like either party, but the Republicans do less to break things and occasionally address things the Democrats have done. They are largely ineffectual and useless like most politicians, which is simply preferable to being actively detrimental, as Democrats tend to be. Obviously, you see the inverse of this. Which brings me back around to why even ask, when anything I say will simply be viewed through an inverting lens anyway?

And you base this statement on...what? Are you monitoring my bank account?

Is there something specific that happened 25 years ago? I don't know what if so, but you're probably right. There's like half a dozen opinions that likely land an instant suspension here and I wouldn't bother making it that easy. It'll happen sooner or later without any help on my part if I keep posting here.


So you don't have any actual answers for the dumb bullshit you say. Who would have thought. Shocking, really.

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Will_VIIII
07/02/23 8:03:36 PM
#80:


TMOG posted...
She's right, but not for the reason she thinks she's right.


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Will_VIIII
07/02/23 8:04:30 PM
#81:


Hornezz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/1/AAfBGKAADbyb.jpg
I do not differentiate this republican from any other.

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loafy013
07/02/23 8:05:53 PM
#82:


iCurious posted...
Like student loan forgiveness? I personally owe quite a bit in student loans, but having them disappear isn't fair to anyone before me that took out student loans and already paid them back. Because now they'll be taxed for it, and gain nothing. In fact they'll have paid thousands of dollars only to then be charged more money to help pay for someone else's debt.
Well, for starters, they aren't being taxed more. The taxes they are already paying would just be allocated to a different direction.

Or, if I'm wrong, then it's not right that my taxes go up every time the government bails out a business or forgives a PPP loan.

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BunkerBoy
07/02/23 8:06:44 PM
#83:


Heineken14 posted...
So you don't have any actual answers for the dumb bullshit you say. Who would have thought. Shocking, really.
We all remember iTrumpy from 261. He pretends to be an enlightened centrist, but he was supporting 1/6 and Trump's BS
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loafy013
07/02/23 8:10:29 PM
#84:


iCurious posted...
we have these gas prices now due to actions taken by the Biden admin to placate climate change activists like yourself. This list would go on.

KajeI posted...


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/8/AAdkcxAAEF2a.jpg
Oh, look at what Kajel was kind enough to post. When they wanted to look into gouging at the pump, it wasn't Biden or the Democrats who shot it down.


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asdf8562
07/02/23 8:13:29 PM
#85:


loafy013 posted...
Oh, look at what Kajel was kind enough to post. When they wanted to look into gouging at the pump, it wasn't Biden or the Democrats who shot it down.
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Sandalorn
07/02/23 8:15:13 PM
#86:


There is zero way any honest person can say Republicans have done more to try and help the citizenry of America than Democrats. ZERO.

They had fucking control of the Gov't and the singular thing they did was pass tax relief that vastly benefited the rich and give corporations free reign to fuck customers over while removing regulations that protected said customers. The tax relief they gave the country has expired now....except for the one to the corporations and the extreme wealthy. That goes on forever until it is changed.

Then President assclown decided to wage an idiotic and devastating tariff war with both China and Canada, which ruined entire agriculture industries, put the steel industry in the grinder and made Welfare Queens out of farmers everywhere.

That's it. Everything else has been removing rights from the citizens they don't like and don't vote for them. The are a regressive and punitive Party of retaliation and petty, small minded retribution. They do nothing to try to help the average citizen's life be better.

Democrats have been trying to pass legislation to help the citizenry tbh with more success than I thought they would have with an opposing party that would vote for Satan to rule before helping a Democrat pass anything, even with that legislation providing relief to citizens.

Even now Republican losers are touting legislation they VOTED AGAINST because it actually is helping their constituents. That's all they do. When in charge...do nothing to help. Not in charge - tout and cheer good shit happening that they vote against. Fuck them.

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Heineken14
07/02/23 8:21:16 PM
#87:


loafy013 posted...


Oh, look at what Kajel was kind enough to post. When they wanted to look into gouging at the pump, it wasn't Biden or the Democrats who shot it down.



Also, Donnie didn't "make us independent" and we have gained MORE independence under Biden. Pesky facts.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/?sh=24bc6a96977f

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Turbam
07/02/23 8:22:44 PM
#88:


Hornezz posted...
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This is like a shit post that I would make

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iCurious
07/02/23 8:30:45 PM
#89:


Heineken14 posted...
Hah, I KNEW you crying Bout mods would be the cop out.

Similarly, I knew you wouldn't tell me what happened 25 years ago. The world may never know.

Heineken14 posted...
So you don't have any actual answers for the dumb bullshit you say. Who would have thought. Shocking, really.

So, sealioning, like I said. That would be one hell of a useful tag to start applying.

loafy013 posted...
Well, for starters, they aren't being taxed more. The taxes they are already paying would just be allocated to a different direction.

Or, if I'm wrong, then it's not right that my taxes go up every time the government bails out a business or forgives a PPP loan.

If that's the case, I certainly don't know about it. But I suppose it's of no consequence anymore.

BunkerBoy posted...
We all remember iTrumpy from 261. He pretends to be an enlightened centrist, but he was supporting 1/6 and Trump's BS

It's nice that you remember (an enlightened centrist? Eeeh), but I certainly wasn't there for 1/6. There was a topic during the election where people were saying "if x wins I'll delete my account". In that topic I said that I wouldn't delete my account, but I'd stop posting on 261 if Trump lost the election. He lost, so I stopped posting. Anyone claiming I've posted anything political on this site since like December 2020 at the latest has memory issues.

I didn't even come back here to post when I came to see the newly generated salt mines from recent SCOTUS rulings. Just wanted to look, and you people are typically quite boring when responding to bad news, so I don't check often.

But of course, 261 is gone now, so here we are. Should it be restored I still won't post there.

loafy013 posted...
Oh, look at what Kajel was kind enough to post. When they wanted to look into gouging at the pump, it wasn't Biden or the Democrats who shot it down.

Giving the government more power isn't a desirable solution. Not creating a gasoline shortage is a desirable solution.

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Heineken14
07/02/23 8:35:04 PM
#90:


iCurious posted...
Similarly, I knew you wouldn't tell me what happened 25 years ago. The world may never know.


Princess Diana dying shouldn't have turned a lot of right wingers into disgusting swamp creatures. Or you can keep being vague because you know what you're talking about is disgusting. Either or I suppose.

iCurious posted...
So, sealioning, like I said. That would be one hell of a useful tag to start applying.


No, it's not sealioning at all because I'm not pretending to be civil to get you to expand upon your dumb bullshit lies. I'm openly hostile to the fact you are spreading right wing propaganda.

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Dancedreamer
07/02/23 8:36:16 PM
#91:


LightHawKnight posted...
Still dont get how those idiots dont see how the right is literally taking away rights.

Because they're taking away the rights they don't care about.

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DarkChozoGhost
07/02/23 8:42:18 PM
#92:


iCurious posted...
And you base this statement on...what? Are you monitoring my bank account?
It's very statistically unlikely, and you've otherwise been incredibly dishonest. It would be foolish to believe you. Especially when you post blatant lies like this in the same post:

iCurious posted...
We had energy independence under Trump, we have these gas prices now due to actions taken by the Biden admin
I know you're not actually stupid enough to believe we had "energy independence" or that the pipeline had anything to do with gas prices lowering or raising. You'll lie and pretend you believe that, even though you're perfectly aware that prices were low under Trump solely due to him covering up Muhammed Bin Salman's kidnapping, torture, and murder of an American citizen. You're also perfectly aware that Biden has authorized more oil drilling than any recent president. But you're going to continue to lie, and pretend that the pipeline owned by foreign companies was the cause of our gas prices going down, and that Biden blocking that environmental and imminent domain disaster was what caused prices to go up. You'll spread that lie because people less evil, but more stupid than you will believe it.

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KajeI
07/02/23 8:45:34 PM
#93:


iCurious posted...
Not creating a gasoline shortage is a desirable solution.
Please tell me you're referring to Keystone.


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Kami_no_Kami
07/02/23 8:46:32 PM
#94:


Euripides posted...
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Heineken14
07/02/23 8:47:52 PM
#95:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
I know you're not actually stupid enough to believe we had "energy independence" or that the pipeline had anything to do with gas prices lowering or raising. You'll lie and pretend you believe that, even though you're perfectly aware that prices were low under Trump solely due to him covering up Muhammed Bin Salman's kidnapping, torture, and murder of an American citizen. You're also perfectly aware that Biden has authorized more oil drilling than any recent president. But you're going to continue to lie, and pretend that the pipeline owned by foreign companies was the cause of our gas prices going down, and that Biden blocking that environmental and imminent domain disaster was what caused prices to go up. You'll spread that lie because people less evil, but more stupid than you will believe it.


Yeah, I had posted a link debunking that claim of energy independence too. Lol

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Sandalorn
07/02/23 8:50:05 PM
#96:


Heineken14 posted...
Yeah, I had posted a link debunking that claim of energy independence too. Lol


You know it doesn't matter. They just ignore truth so they can continue to live in their alternate reality. Some times I forget how far into delusion they have fallen. And then one reminds you.

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creativerealms
07/02/23 8:51:08 PM
#97:


The keystone pipeline would have slightly risen gas prices in parts of the country because it was going to export oil to Canada.

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Intro2Logic
07/02/23 8:51:16 PM
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I look forward to watching this argument play out, word for word, again the next time TC decides to share what he's been reading

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StealThisSheen
07/02/23 9:41:59 PM
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Euripides posted...
verses


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mistymermaid
07/02/23 9:42:16 PM
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Sandalorn posted...
There is zero way any honest person can say Republicans have done more to try and help the citizenry of America than Democrats. ZERO.

They had fucking control of the Gov't and the singular thing they did was pass tax relief that vastly benefited the rich and give corporations free reign to fuck customers over while removing regulations that protected said customers. The tax relief they gave the country has expired now....except for the one to the corporations and the extreme wealthy. That goes on forever until it is changed.

Then President assclown decided to wage an idiotic and devastating tariff war with both China and Canada, which ruined entire agriculture industries, put the steel industry in the grinder and made Welfare Queens out of farmers everywhere.

That's it. Everything else has been removing rights from the citizens they don't like and don't vote for them. The are a regressive and punitive Party of retaliation and petty, small minded retribution. They do nothing to try to help the average citizen's life be better.

Democrats have been trying to pass legislation to help the citizenry tbh with more success than I thought they would have with an opposing party that would vote for Satan to rule before helping a Democrat pass anything, even with that legislation providing relief to citizens.

Even now Republican losers are touting legislation they VOTED AGAINST because it actually is helping their constituents. That's all they do. When in charge...do nothing to help. Not in charge - tout and cheer good shit happening that they vote against. Fuck them.

Danged message limits. I can't post enough four-letter words of agreement.

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