Current Events > Chances Trump wins the 2024 Presidential Election

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Billyionaire posted...

The question is what are the chances Democrats run a sensible alternative to anything they've run for the last 15 years

Donald Trump is literally a traitor to america. He incited an insurrection after losing a free and fair election.

A sentient pile of dog shit would be a "sensible alternative" to Trump.

Jeremy517 posted...

Biden's margin of victory was
11,000 votes in Arizona
20,000 votes in Wisconsin
80,000 votes in Pennsylvania

Disregard Pennsylvania, because it was even closer than that.

43,000 votes between Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona.
Tied Electoral College.
House decides.
Trump Wins.

mybbqrules posted...

Donald Trump is literally a traitor to america. He incited an insurrection after losing a free and fair election.

A sentient pile of dog shit would be a "sensible alternative" to Trump.

Read the post you quoted one more time. Didn't mention anything about Trump.

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And just what good has it been exactly?

Billyionaire posted...

Catastrophic rulings for our democracy by SCOTUS judges planted by corporate democrats are not a favorable alternative to an alt right SCOTUS.

I mean... Yes they are. Flat out yes they are.

Billyionaire posted...

The choice of a lesser evil that results in the harm of millions is nonetheless an evil choice.

And yet you must still try to make the best possible choice in every situation, even if there's no good choices there's still a best choice.

Mearcstapa posted...

Disregard Pennsylvania, because it was even closer than that.

43,000 votes between Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona.
Tied Electoral College.
House decides.
Trump Wins.

Democrats controlled the house in 2020 but still.

Billyionaire posted...

Read the post you quoted one more time. Didn't mention anything about Trump.

This entire topic is about Trump, friend :)

If Trump wins the election that's the end of any sort of sense of order and I see protests escalating to explicit violence in aims to remove him.

Very little chance it's going to get that far thankfully, and hopefully he's in prison before then which nips it in the bud.

Billyionaire posted...

Read the post you quoted one more time. Didn't mention anything about Trump.

But that's who the "sensible candidate" you're talking about is going to be running against.

But by all means, keep going on with your "the dems are just as bad" shtick. I have you tagged as troll for a reason.

It's only the vocal minority that still support Trump publicly, he lost all the moderate ones with his antics and even Pence publicly refuses to have his back regarding the charges against him.

I still maintain that every single person who voted for Trump the second time, and every person who votes for him this time, should lose the right to vote permanently.

I fear Biden's health is going to offer cause for concern over the next 18 months. It would not be good if he appears to grow increasingly doddery (or worse, confused) at the worst possible time, but insists on clinging to the presidency because he feels he can't afford to let go just as campaigning heats up.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Democrats controlled the house in 2020 but still.

Here's the fun part: a tie is decided by state delegations, not individual congressmen. California's reps get one total vote, and so do South Dakota's. Republicans had a majority in a majority of states.

HornyLevel posted...

There's a very real possibility of him winning. A lot of the world is going right wing in response to things like migration and stuff. EU definitely is.

The EU's migrant crisis is worse than the US' is and is still being overblown.

I don't think anyone here is really buying the "caravan" bullshit in any sort of numbers that matter.

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You're right my bad. I forgot about the rash of legislation Dems introduced after 2016 to amend the constitution and reform the electoral college. My bad.

Oh wait

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You're delusional if you think any Democrat has ever nominated a judge to the SCOTUS in the last 50 years because they have your best interest at heart. We literally have rulings that say otherwise.

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Well at least we know our career politicians are above literal reality show hosts. What a consolation.

GATTJT posted...

This entire topic is about Trump, friend :)

So what's your plan to beat Trump, pal? Please don't say run the safe candidate and hope it all goes to plan.

mybbqrules posted...

But that's who the "sensible candidate" you're talking about is going to be running against.

But by all means, keep going on with your "the dems are just as bad" shtick. I have you tagged as troll for a reason.

Fwiw, my question was rhetorical. Democrats won't be running a sensible alternative to the corporate bootlickers they always run. You know, the thing that would cause a landslide victory? -- yeah they aren't going to be doing it.

fred12935 posted...

I don't vote so I don't care. I want him to win just to watch everyone melt down

Best take itt. I'm just here for the drama

Bio1590 posted...

The EU's migrant crisis is worse than the US' is and is still being overblown.

I don't think anyone here is really buying the "caravan" bullshit in any sort of numbers that matter.

I don't think it matters if it's overblown. It's increasing support for the right wing in the EU and will be one of many key issues in the 2024 election in the US.

Intro2Logic posted...

I think this is a purposeful trivialization of the concerns people had with Biden and Clinton's records.

and whatever concerns people have with the Clinton and Biden records are a joke compared to the concerns to be had with the likes of trump

Billyionaire posted...

Catastrophic rulings for our democracy by SCOTUS judges planted by corporate democrats are not a favorable alternative to an alt right SCOTUS.

The choice of a lesser evil that results in the harm of millions is nonetheless an evil choice.

so basically lets choose the worst of two evils, why pussyfoot around, right?

why get bitten by a dog if you can get bitten by a cobra?

EmilyTheCEman posted...

The reason he has a chance is because we went with fucking walking corpse Joe Biden on the Democratic side.

lol you fell for that shit?

Billyionaire posted...

You're right my bad. I forgot about the rash of legislation Dems introduced after 2016 to amend the constitution and reform the electoral college. My bad.

Oh wait

You're delusional if you think any Democrat has ever nominated a judge to the SCOTUS in the last 50 years because they have your best interest at heart. We literally have rulings that say otherwise.

Well at least we know our career politicians are above literal reality show hosts. What a consolation.

So what's your plan to beat Trump, pal? Please don't say run the safe candidate and hope it all goes to plan.

Fwiw, my question was rhetorical. Democrats won't be running a sensible alternative to the corporate bootlickers they always run. You know, the thing that would cause a landslide victory? -- yeah they aren't going to be doing it.

uninformed magnum opus. bravo.

GeraldDarko posted...

You posts this like it represent the official probability.

Did I though?

Its something fun and related to talk about

Biden won several states by the skin of his teeth,Trump could have very easily taken the EC in 2020. Going forward, Biden has the incumbency advantage so his chances are pretty good, but if for some reason Biden can't run or drops out...

If Biden drops out after the primary and the DNC tries to nominate Harris without a primary it's a guaranteed loss; Harris will win the popular vote but tlose the EC. 100% GOP victory

Billyionaire has consumed all the voter suppression Kool-aid rhetoric.

steve_madsci posted...

Biden won several states by the skin of his teeth,Trump could have very easily taken the EC in 2020. Going forward, Biden has the incumbency advantage so his chances are pretty good, but if for some reason Biden can't run or drops out...

If Biden drops out after the primary and the DNC tries to nominate Harris without a primary it's a guaranteed loss; Harris will win the popular vote but tlose the EC. 100% GOP victory

The biggest advantage Trump had in 2020 was that 1/6 hadn't happened yet.

Sycophants will always be sycophants but a lot of people won't vote for Trump again, even among Republicans.

I think he's going to be the republican nominee, which means he has a chance, but I also think he's not going to win. He's lost the popular vote twice now, and he drives people to vote against him.

GeraldDarko posted...

Billyionaire has consumed all the voter suppression Kool-aid rhetoric.

that account is a trumper and has been melting down hard ever since it showed up that trump is getting bent over

trump is extremely unlikely to win because moderates hate him and even his cult is ever shrinking

<enlightened centrist logic> <moderate voter logic>

trump pushed an insurrection, ignored covid, almost caused world wars, and did so many racist things that the country was literally burning with protests. Oh he also sided with Putin over our own intelligence services publicly and he put in place an alt right SCOTUS that is destroying our rights.

BUT

Hillary and Biden would be horrible in lip sync battle. They would look ridiculous in the masked singer, they cant do the floss dance and I would not have sex with either. They are also not perfect or funny, nor have they played among us with people like AOC or offered to give us free college like Bernie.

therefore, I wont vote for either, I wont vote
for the lesser of two evils.
</enlightened centrist logic> </moderate logic>

I think you're conflating different groups of people when you suggest that enlightened centrists are big on Sanders and AOC.

Billyionaire posted...

You're right my bad. I forgot about the rash of legislation Dems introduced after 2016 to amend the constitution and reform the electoral college. My bad.

Oh wait

Dems: *try to do anything*

Repubs: *inevitably block said thing*

Rocket scientists like Billy: "OMG why do dems suck so much?"

Clownshoes.

Intro2Logic posted...

I think you're conflating different groups of people when you suggest that enlightened centrists are big on Sanders and AOC.

Yeah, "enlightened centrists" don't exist. They're just chuds who retain a small amount of embarrassment for supporting fascist traitors openly.

He likely wont even be the republican nominee

I think the recent Supreme Court decisions are once again going to spur high Democrat turnout so I wouldn't give him much a chance.

We need to vote like we are the deciding vote regardless of what the chances are. He cannot be allowed to win.

I'd probably guess around 20-30% right now but even 1% is too high.

samsungsalt posted...

He likely wont even be the republican nominee

he is up like 40 points and has a mindless cult behind him. if the gop weren't braindead they would pick someone else but their electorate is full cult mode