Current Events > Boy, 7, shot and killed because others argued over jetskis

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somehow this topic ended up being sadder than the story it was originally about

MrDrMan posted...

More gaslighting

This isn't gaslighting. Gaslighting isn't when someone accuses you of being an alt. That's literally just a question. Antagonistic, sure. But it's definitely not gaslighting, I would recommend looking it up so you don't make that mistake again. Hope that helps.

"If guns didn't exist, they'd just run over the kid with a jet ski! Should we outlaw jet skis now??"

BGleason22 posted...

Did a quick google search and saw Florida at #29 in the nation in gun related deaths per capita.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2023/07/05/desantis-florida-crime-claims-based-incomplete-data-record-show/

Claiming that Florida is unsafe is a total farce, DeSantis said. I mean, are you kidding me? You look at cities around this country, they are awash in crime. In Florida, our crime rate is at a 50-year low.

But his statementrests on patchy, incomplete crime data. About half of the agencies that police more than 40% of the states population are missing from figures the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) used for a state-wide estimation.

Participation in national data collection is even lower. In Florida, only 49 agencies, representing less than 8% of police departments, were included in an FBI federal database last year, according to a Marshall Project analysis. This means more than 500 police departments in Florida including many of the largest agencies, like the Miami Police Department, the Pinellas County Sheriffs Office and the St. Petersburg Police Department are missing from the national context. Floridas participation rate is the lowest of any state in the country.

Guess there were no good guys around?

Torgo posted...

Guess there were no good guys around?

Well the grandpa. He attempted to get his grandson to safety

>argues about putting kids in danger
>performs actions that puts kid in danger

Florida

MrDrMan posted...

You are beyond disingenuous. I brought up valid points people can still conceal weapons. I brought up points that theres still hundreds of millions on the streets this does nothing to resolve.

Im not saying we should do nothing. Im saying you all should stop bullying Gleason like you actually solved the issue. Everyone came down on him so hard yet you dont have the solution yourself. Thats lame.

If you disagree then just make your point but as Ive said the constant name calling and bullying is so fucking lame. The majority of people here are not capable of simply making their point without it. People are claiming Im 13. Like really? None of that is necessary.

So I'm brand new to this thread - two questions
A) Why did you bring up conceal carry and millions of guns already on the street?
B) Which post had a suggestion that "solves the issue"?

Ruvan22 posted...

So I'm brand new to this thread - two questions
A) Why did you bring up conceal carry and millions of guns already on the street?
B) Which post had a suggestion that "solves the issue"?

A) Many initial arguments were that the right to carry as it currently stands and access to guns are what caused this. I agree that we should limit access to guns but I was pointing out what I see as flaws in that argument. Even if we limited ability to carry people can still hide(conceal) their weapons. Even if we outright banned anyone from buying another gun there are still hundreds of millions of guns out there.

Not along ago we couldnt get half the country to simply wear a mask. Now we are suggesting because of the law they will give up their protection that they deem essential? I just dont see it. The same study that estimated 450 million guns produced since 1899 found 44% of gun owners to be Republican and around 20% to be Democrat. These are people that wear come and take out guns merch. They wont give them up so why would we effectively disarm ourselves against them? I lean heavily towards Democrat but you wouldnt walk into a lions den without a gun so why are we suggesting that? You may stop a handful of scenarios like this get allow more scenarios like the 23 Latinos shot by some crazy racist fuck.

Last Im on mobile so I dont want to go through all the posts. Nobody outright said their idea would solve the issue but the way people came down on Gleason, to me, it was implied. I assumed people would not throw stones from glass houses but thats just my opinion. I didnt present a rock solid argument either so its all good.

Ill say I apologize for being hostile recently. I just really dont like the way a lot of discussion takes place on here. From now on I just will not engage with the negativity. Appreciate you keeping the question civil.

people nowadays just want an excuse to kill and the media and government are all too happy to egg that thought process on because it's profits

But apparently they think drag queens are the problem.

Fuck all of them, send them all to jail. They are going to have to gall to what about the Children, then have gun fight and kill a kid.