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SaikyoStyle
07/14/23 9:10:08 PM
#53:


Dark_Arbron posted...
The only ones perpetuating the culture war are the Republican Party.

And I put war in quotation marks because its not the right word to describe it. A war implies two sides are fighting for opposing ideologies, whereas whats going on here is closer to one side attempting to suppress and murder the other without provocation for the crime of existing.
The former in this case perceives the continued existence of the latter as them fighting back.

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07/14/23 9:10:47 PM
#54:


Zikten posted...
Sucks for diminutive actors. They don't get much work probably as it is. And this just stole 7 jobs I think. Its supposed to be 7 right? Anyway, why the hell did they change it to full sized people?
Hollywood REALLY seems to want to believe only 1 person has ever been suited for that kind of role: Warwick Davis.

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A_Good_Boy
07/14/23 9:13:11 PM
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Wait till these people find out what happened with live action Cinderella.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:14:28 PM
#56:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
Snow White seemed to be the one character that actually had to be white.
Yeah, if you're a superficial and petty person.

A documentary/reenactment about Nazi's would be "had to be white." Not your superficial surface level understanding of a fictional tale.

Leave your narrowmindedness at the door. It's a fictional movie. Clown shoes.

HHH_is_the_game posted...
The weird thing is you can never do it the other way.
Sure you can, logically speaking. You're just desperate to defend your shit ways.

Just so happens race tends play more of an important role with PoC, as white was the default "vanilla" option.

Take a remake of the Spiderverse. You could do it there. Miles being black was next to unimportant. To the overall movie.
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Kloe_Rinz
07/14/23 9:15:12 PM
#57:


i havent watched any of the soulless disney remakes and im not going to start with this one

but at the end of the day if a change doesnt improve the remake, they shouldnt have changed it

full-sized adult dwarves sounds stupid af
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HHH_is_the_game
07/14/23 9:16:08 PM
#58:


EthanSilver posted...
Take a remake of the Spiderverse. You could do it there. Miles being black was next to unimportant.

Do you REALLY think people would accept them making a non-black Miles Morales?

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:19:08 PM
#59:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
Do you REALLY think people would accept them making a non-black Miles Morales?
I'm on the "logic" of it.

Of course you'll have clown takes, like you do... plus the GoP will probably plant some false flags too. Help this stupid "culture war" along. Good distractions for peeps like you.

They don't have anything of worth to give plebs but "ohH MAQW GAWD, WOKE!" Which doesn't cost donors money.
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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:23:21 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
but at the end of the day if a change doesnt improve the remake, they shouldnt have changed it
Heck, they could have changed nothing, and still could of sucked. Actors, or w/e.

Doesn't change the fact, fact mind you, that one should have the freedom to make such changes if they want to in such cases.
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Solar_Crimson
07/14/23 9:23:58 PM
#61:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Coming from the same group who unquestionably believe Jesus was a white man


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mehmeh1
07/14/23 9:24:12 PM
#62:


EthanSilver posted...
Yeah, if you're a superficial and petty person.

A documentary/reenactment about Nazi's would be "had to be white." Not your superficial surface level understanding of a fictional tale.

Leave your narrowmindedness at the door. It's a fictional movie. Clown shoes.
I mean this is the one case where the character having white skin is actually supposed to be a defining feature (also yeah what's with the dwarves? Not even suspension of disbelief since one of them actually is short so yeah) . Either way just hope this blows over, all the TLM rage was annoying and I wasn't even seeking it out.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:26:57 PM
#64:


mehmeh1 posted...
I mean this is the one case where the character having white skin is actually supposed to be a defining feature
Yeah, if the movie was about her "white" skin.

Again, that's your shallow and surface level understanding of the story and understanding of freedom of expression.

A you problem. Not an innate objective "wrong," that dictates it's not allowed. Point to it if you disagree, but you won't, because you can't.
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Kloe_Rinz
07/14/23 9:27:53 PM
#65:


EthanSilver posted...
Heck, they could have changed nothing, and still could of sucked. Actors, or w/e.

Doesn't change the fact, fact mind you, that one should have the freedom to make such changes if they want to in such cases.

obviously they shouldnt be banned from making bad changes. but people are allowed to call out bad changes such as full grown "dwarves"
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Thewinner14
07/14/23 9:28:30 PM
#66:


nocturnal_traveler posted...
Conservatives going by the one drop rule once again.

Well if they're going by Tolkien lore, the female Dwarf should be having a beard anyway.

And according to actual Norse lore they'd be covered in raven black hair. Dwarves and Dark Elves were originally the same thing.
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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:30:41 PM
#67:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
obviously they shouldnt be banned from making bad changes.
I mean, for starters. "Bad changes" can be quite subjective.

Or, because it doesn't work once, doesn't mean it will never work... Or heck, it could be bad movie, but for things outside of her "skin" color. T
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Cobra1010
07/14/23 9:41:19 PM
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Pretty sure her being called snow white and having snow white skin wasnt a coincidence lol.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:43:36 PM
#69:


Cobra1010 posted...
Pretty sure her being called snow white and having snow white skin wasnt a coincidence lol.
Pretty sure the movie wasn't about her skin.

I get some of you are shallow people and can't think beyond the surface/skin... but come on... >.>
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Cobra1010
07/14/23 9:46:22 PM
#70:


EthanSilver posted...
Pretty sure the movie wasn't about her skin.

I get some of you are shallow people and can't think beyond the surface... but come on... >.>

You're aggresive and hostile to everyone who doesnt stand by your views. You are the only person here insulting others.

And you are also moving goal posts. Whats your problem bud?

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Priere
07/14/23 9:47:03 PM
#71:


They should have gotten Jussie Smolette to play Snow White and all the dwarves. Like a nutty professor kinda deal to get him back in the spotlight.

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GATTJT
07/14/23 9:47:12 PM
#72:


EthanSilver posted...
Pretty sure the movie wasn't about her skin.
Which movie are you talking about?

EDIT: Obviously Snow White, but which one? The 1937 animated version?

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TMOG
07/14/23 9:48:44 PM
#73:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
They look like adults in the original to me.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/1/AAU2gcAAEqMZ.jpg

Also arent dwarves a different race like elves?
Yeah and they also reach her waist at best as far as height

What kind of dumb argument is this
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_____Cait
07/14/23 9:49:20 PM
#74:


Yeah the nationality of Snow White was integral to her character in the original movie. You know, her character of uh. Walking around. Being polite. Uh. You know her culture. Uh.

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_____Cait
07/14/23 9:50:21 PM
#75:


Also can we stop arguing about who got swapped in the movie and just talk about how terrible these remakes are?

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:50:47 PM
#76:


Cobra1010 posted...
You're aggresive and hostile to everyone who doesnt stand by your views.
Sounds nice. But it doesn't mean anything. It's not an argument.

Cute, how we can just pretend the GoP "woke" propaganda is not the issue here. Even if you're not doing it on purpose. It's in the OP smart guy.

The movie is not about her skin. Fact.

It's a work of fiction based on free interpretation of another work of fiction. Fact.

Focusing on her skin color is a shallow approach at the movie. Also a fact.
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Paragon21XX
07/14/23 9:51:09 PM
#77:


EthanSilver posted...
Pretty sure the movie wasn't about her skin.

I get some of you are shallow people and can't think beyond the surface/skin... but come on... >.>
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HHH_is_the_game
07/14/23 9:51:30 PM
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But then what character would have to stay white and couldn't be re-cast? It does seem weird to think white is the only race that NEVER is considered important to a character. I guess in America it's hard to say you could ever have a character that had to be white as we don't have any real race or culture specific to white people. Like Encanto and Coco were very steeped in the culture of their races, and its not something that we can actually do in America. Texans could be black as well as white. European characters though? You'd think those would be defaulted to white just as Coco was Mexican characters, etc. (And to be fair, somebody like Tiana never did have her race as an important quality, she could be white as well as black, but they would never do that.)

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Carljank
07/14/23 9:52:08 PM
#79:


Of fucking course I don't care that Snow White is Hispanic. What is this fucking timeline?

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:53:35 PM
#80:


Paragon21XX posted...
Lips red as the rose, hair black as ebony, skin white as snow.
I didn't say it wasn't referenced at all. Try again.

Get rid of that line, and the movie wouldn't have changed at it's core.

Why I mention "shallow/surface" level takes. You can't see beyond the surface.
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justaguy3492
07/14/23 9:54:39 PM
#81:


I hope they call it Snow Yt.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/14/23 9:56:17 PM
#82:


_____Cait posted...
Also can we stop arguing about who got swapped in the movie and just talk about how terrible these remakes are?
apparently them being terrible is subjective or something
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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:56:35 PM
#83:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
But then what character would have to stay white and couldn't be re-cast? It does seem weird to think white is the only race that NEVER is considered important to a character. I guess in America it's hard to say you could ever have a character that had to be white as we don't have any real race or culture specific to white people. Like Encanto and Coco were very steeped in the culture of their races, and its not something that we can actually do in America. Texans could be black as well as white. European characters though? You'd think those would be defaulted to white just as Coco was Mexican characters, etc. (And to be fair, somebody like Tiana never did have her race as an important quality, she could be white as well as black, but they would never do that.)er
How is it weird, when they have been the default for so long? And not every movies has race as a theme, or have it play an important role.

You act like there has to be an equivalent. When history, especially in the US has been so unequal in terms of "race," for so long.
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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:58:02 PM
#84:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
apparently them being terrible is subjective
Uhh... I mean. Sorta?

Are you for real. Everything you like "objectively" excellent?
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GATTJT
07/14/23 9:58:31 PM
#85:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
But then what character would have to stay white and couldn't be re-cast?
Atticus Finch from To Kill a Mockingbird

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RuneterranSnap
07/14/23 9:58:47 PM
#86:


If it passes off conservatives it's automatically a good thing.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 9:59:21 PM
#87:


RuneterranSnap posted...
If it passes off conservatives it's automatically a good thing.
No. Not really.
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Kloe_Rinz
07/14/23 9:59:34 PM
#88:


EthanSilver posted...
Uhh... I mean. Sorta?

Are you for real. Everything you like "objectively" excellent?
do you like the disney remakes?
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HHH_is_the_game
07/14/23 10:00:01 PM
#89:


Actually when you think about it Disney could do a lot of good making a movie with a white Tiana. Her race is completely irrelevant to the story of Princess and the Frog, and there are obviously white people in New Orleans too.

If they changed to a white Tiana, people would complain for sure and be FURIOUS. But then you could point out Snow White and Ariel, and it will be very hard to make a case that they can be race-swapped but Tiana can't. And then the right can no longer complain anymore because its showed that Disney TRULY casts the best person for the role and not just based on race, rather than only replacing white characters for PC points.

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RuneterranSnap
07/14/23 10:00:15 PM
#90:


EthanSilver posted...
No. Not really.
Yes. Really.

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A_Good_Boy
07/14/23 10:01:02 PM
#91:


... But she is white...

Kinda weird seeing white people engage in colorism too.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 10:01:36 PM
#92:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
do you like the disney remakes?
I haven't watched them.

Nice dodge though.

It'd be icky getting into whether or not your likes/dislikes are objectively grounded.
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cjsdowg
07/14/23 10:01:54 PM
#93:


Unless they want the real horrible story , it doesn't matter if it was changed because it has already been changed.

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RuneterranSnap
07/14/23 10:02:22 PM
#94:


A_Good_Boy posted...
... But she is white...
Doesn't need to be.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 10:02:27 PM
#95:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Yes. Really.
No.
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HHH_is_the_game
07/14/23 10:02:27 PM
#96:


GATTJT posted...
Atticus Finch from To Kill a Mockingbird

But that's odd as that's only because his race is directly a plot point in the movie. This isn't the case with Coco or Encanto but you could never recast white characters into that.

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RuneterranSnap
07/14/23 10:03:06 PM
#97:


cjsdowg posted...
Unless they want the real horrible story , it doesn't matter if it was changed because it has already been changed.
I want classic Disney movies remade with the same animation style but the original stories

Let's see Hunchback now

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Kloe_Rinz
07/14/23 10:03:16 PM
#98:


EthanSilver posted...
I haven't watched them.

Nice dodge though.

It'd be icky getting into whether or not your likes/dislikes are objectively grounded.
you can subjectively like something that is objectively bad. nobody is telling you not to
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A_Good_Boy
07/14/23 10:03:38 PM
#99:


RuneterranSnap posted...
Doesn't need to be.
But she is, so what's the outrage for? Cause she isn't the right shade of white? That's fucking dumb.

Instead let's get outraged cause that's clearly not 7 dwarfs.

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RuneterranSnap
07/14/23 10:03:43 PM
#100:


EthanSilver posted...
No.
Guess you don't get a say then.

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EthanSilver
07/14/23 10:04:50 PM
#101:


HHH_is_the_game posted...
This isn't the case with Coco or Encanto but you could never recast white characters into that.
I mean, it's kind of a part of the movie. The setting.

Not that I've watched those movies, but doesn't seem it, culture, plays the same role as it does in the Snow White movies.
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EthanSilver
07/14/23 10:06:16 PM
#102:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
you can subjectively like something that is objectively bad. nobody is telling you not to
But saying something is "objectively bad," is just that... saying it.

Unless being "vague" is the game with you, and not the "specifics."
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