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TodorokiHayato 07/15/23 1:13:06 PM #1: |
If you can go to cooking school and learn all the arbitrary rules of plating techniques and its nuances, then studying math is no different. If you can see things in layers and know when to apply a certain set of rules, then it's just a matter of adjusting your applied knowledge in a way that makes sense to you. I feel like unless you're going beyond Calc 3, learning Math is no different than trying to make Duck Pt en Crote. --- Nobody knows you're a dog on the internet ruff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Accolon 07/15/23 1:15:02 PM #2: |
For me, it's different with physical things that I can think of and interact with, and just a page of letters and numbers that are all abstract. Just how my brain prefers to work I guess. --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 07/15/23 1:27:18 PM #3: |
Calculus is difficult for most people. Liberal arts people at my school struggled with basic math, business majors struggled with their lite version of calculus and even stem people would retake the class often. --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 07/15/23 1:37:10 PM #4: |
Because they have basically no math background. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 07/15/23 1:37:50 PM #5: |
This is a bad topic and you should feel bad for making it. --- I'm a long, long way from giving up Call me old-fashioned, call me a fool ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 07/15/23 1:39:03 PM #6: |
I know chem majors who struggled with calculus. Without a strong understanding of Algebra, it's difficult to understand how to setup problems in Calculus. Hell, I doubt most people can even do a trig sub without something to reference. Many colleges let students get away with using a table of integrals for these problems on tests. It's also weird to say liberal arts majors struggle with calculus since physics, philosophy, and math all fall under liberal arts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 07/15/23 1:40:34 PM #7: |
The problem for me was that it was really fucking boring, and I slept through every class because I was taking them as night classes. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drumiester 07/15/23 1:41:01 PM #8: |
Calc is so easy. Just derivatives and integrals. --- I Love Sasha Banks/Mercedes Mone! Currently Playing: Divinity Original Sin 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GunmaN1905 07/15/23 1:47:38 PM #9: |
TodorokiHayato posted... If you can go to cooking school and learn all the arbitrary rules of plating techniques and its nuances, then studying math is no different. If you can see things in layers and know when to apply a certain set of rules, then it's just a matter of adjusting your applied knowledge in a way that makes sense to you. I feel like unless you're going beyond Calc 3, learning Math is no different than trying to make Duck Pt en Crote. It's very different, math is difficult for people who have no deduction power. Cooking is just trial and error. You just watch someone do it and repeat the process over and over again until you perfect it. Math has rules, but variables are always different and people with no deduction power can't figure shit out. They're just good for stuff where you memorize everything and repeat it to death. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TodorokiHayato 07/15/23 2:05:52 PM #10: |
GunmaN1905 posted... It's very different, math is difficult for people who have no deduction power.But cooking also requires deductive reasoning as well. For example, if you know that all cakes need eggs (general statement) and you want to make a cake (hypothesis), then you can deduce that you need to buy eggs (conclusion). Then there's also inductive reasoning,where if you notice that every time you add salt to water, it boils faster (observation), then you can infer that salt lowers the boiling point of water. It's not just trial and error if you want to become a great chef. --- Nobody knows you're a dog on the internet ruff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueTigerLion 07/15/23 2:13:53 PM #11: |
My math teachers were either bad or boring. I think one of the issues with Math is you don't use the info outside the class or have real world example to fall back on to keep you engaged with the subject. --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Requiem 07/15/23 2:17:01 PM #12: |
I think maybe because it's not visual/physical? If you mix/bake a cake incorrectly, you'll get a subpar product that you can visually see. If you solve a calculus problem incorrectly, you'll get numbers. --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 07/15/23 2:17:48 PM #13: |
What are "liberal arts majors"? --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 2:23:32 PM #14: |
cuz they're liberal arts majors lawl --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 07/15/23 2:24:06 PM #15: |
DKBananaSlamma posted... cuz they're liberal arts majors lawl Euripides posted... What are "liberal arts majors"? --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 2:25:55 PM #16: |
Euripides posted... What are "liberal arts majors"?idk, useless shit like dancing, art, pottery, social science, music, literature, history, philosophy. You learn what they are in middle school brah --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 07/15/23 2:26:00 PM #17: |
If I can't visualize the process, it's extremely difficult for me to understand it. So I struggle with algebra and calculus, but do extremely well in trigonometry and physics. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 07/15/23 2:27:15 PM #18: |
DKBananaSlamma posted... idk, useless shit like dancing, art, pottery, social science, music, literature, history, philosophy. You learn what they are in middle school brah None of those things are useless --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrettyBoyFloyd 07/15/23 2:32:50 PM #19: |
I still count with my fingers. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 07/15/23 2:37:31 PM #20: |
Why is being a human so difficult for many science & math majors? --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Requiem 07/15/23 2:38:46 PM #21: |
I think it might become easier if you show a few application of calculus to those having trouble. I guess the most common/identifiable is application with velocity and acceleration? --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FolkenRawr 07/15/23 2:39:49 PM #22: |
This was an inherently stupid topic, and then TC tripled down. It's not just trial and error if you want to become a great chef Ohwaityoureserious --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 2:41:15 PM #23: |
Requiem posted... I guess the most common/identifiable is application with velocity and acceleration? Kinda? Velocity and acceleration is more associated with physics, but derivatives from Calc 1 do show the "rate" of things so I guess it fits >_> --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Requiem 07/15/23 2:43:17 PM #24: |
I thought velocity/acceleration relation was something most people could identify with, and it'd be a good way to "visualize" calculus for newer students. --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 07/15/23 2:54:01 PM #25: |
Math is a liberal art yknow --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: *kissu* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Imit8m3 07/15/23 2:58:30 PM #26: |
Euripides posted... None of those things are uselessThen try getting paid to do them... I'll wait. --- I got asthma bruh. I can't be chasing these hoes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 07/15/23 2:58:55 PM #27: |
You've never been an engineering major if you haven't seen many of your peers have to retake Calc 2 or 3. STEM majors aren't any better at the shit than anyone else --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kage_53 07/15/23 3:01:29 PM #29: |
Majors like English and History dont require calculus so there is no need to take that class. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 07/15/23 3:02:57 PM #30: |
BlueTigerLion posted... My math teachers were either bad or boring. I think one of the issues with Math is you don't use the info outside the class or have real world example to fall back on to keep you engaged with the subject.Pretty much this. I barely remember Algebra, but still use geometry often. The rest really have no everyday practical use --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 07/15/23 3:03:14 PM #31: |
I suck at algebra and calculus and I'm an accounting major. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 07/15/23 3:08:34 PM #32: |
I took business calculus, and I still can't tell you what the difference is between algebra and calculus. --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 07/15/23 3:11:46 PM #33: |
Imit8m3 posted... Then try getting paid to do them... I'll wait. College is not purely for job training Learning about art, literature, philosophy, etc. makes you a more-rounded human being with better critical thinking skills. It also makes you less likely to fall into political and religious zealotry --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 3:17:37 PM #34: |
Euripides posted... It also makes you less likely to fall into political and religious zealotryThat is completely not true lol. Most of my liberal arts friends are super in politics while all my STEM friends are pretty aloof to politics --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArchonKnight 07/15/23 3:19:15 PM #35: |
I did honors precal and AP Calc in high school. I didn't do spectacularly well but I grasped it okay and passed. I then went to get a degree in music. I was always strong in math and sciences but wanted to study arts in college. So yeah, what Error said. --- {]xxxxxxxxx(&)::::;;;;;:::::::::::::::::::::;;;;::::::::::::::::> Memento Mori ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 07/15/23 3:19:33 PM #36: |
DKBananaSlamma posted...
What middle school did you go to where you learned stuff like this https://imgur.io/a/NcXtQV0 ? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 07/15/23 3:19:37 PM #37: |
Gwynevere posted... You've never been an engineering major if you haven't seen many of your peers have to retake Calc 2 or 3. STEM majors aren't any better at the shit than anyone elseCalc 2 is a beast. I remember people telling me to pray for a good grade and that they themselves barely passed. I already graduated and let me tell you, no math class was as hard as calc 2, I was actually disappointed at the lack of difficulty afterwards. --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 07/15/23 3:20:10 PM #38: |
DKBananaSlamma posted... That is completely not true lol. Most of my liberal arts friends are super in politics while all my STEM friends are pretty aloof to politics I just read an entire book about this. There are studies. Your opinion =/= science --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 07/15/23 3:22:23 PM #39: |
Euripides posted... College is not purely for job trainingPhilosophy also goes hand in hand with a lot of the history of physics. Political science is deeply intertwined with engineering, since what engineering projects get greenlit is 100% based in politics. STEM majors that let their social science proficiency slip don't tend to make very good coworkers in my experience --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 3:23:14 PM #40: |
Euripides posted... lolbooks. That's some liberal arts literature shit. What I'm talking about is statistics aka STEM shit, which is inheritly better for data analysis --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 07/15/23 3:23:29 PM #41: |
xlr_big-coop posted...
Did you not take Diff EQ? It continues on from where calc 2 ended and I would say it was much harder. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 3:25:51 PM #42: |
Nota214 posted... Did you not take Diff EQ? It continues on from where calc 2 ended and I would say it was much harder.In terms of difficulty from hardest to easiest: Calc 5 (Laplace Transformation and other bullshit) Calc 4 (Differential Equations) Calc 2 [Power Gap] Calc 3 (Multivariable) Calc 1 It was a Godsend how much easier Calc 3 was compared to 2. It's literally just Calc 1 but in 3D and with multiple variables. --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 07/15/23 3:27:32 PM #45: |
DKBananaSlamma posted... lolbooks. That's some liberal arts literature shit. What I'm talking about is statistics aka STEM shit, which is inheritly better for data analysis oooooh, you're trolling --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 07/15/23 3:27:57 PM #46: |
Nota214 posted... Did you not take Diff EQ? It continues on from where calc 2 ended and I would say it was much harder.I did but the professor was so good I did not struggle with those at all. Our class was a mix of dif EQ and linear algebra but I loved linear algebra far more. Almost made me switch from engineering to math just so I could grasp more of what we were barely shown. DKBananaSlamma posted... In terms of difficulty from hardest to easiest:I agree with the last bit. Calc 2 left me traumatized so much that I dreaded calc 3 going in, but ended up breezing through it. --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 3:29:32 PM #47: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Half of them are healthy into politics, but the other half are definitely too obsessed where it affects their social behavior and daily life. That's 50% zealotry to 0% zealotry in my book --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 07/15/23 3:31:56 PM #48: |
DKBananaSlamma posted...
I would say all of those are still easier than philosophy though. Anything regarding meta logic is a big nope from me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FolkenRawr 07/15/23 3:37:09 PM #50: |
DKBananaSlamma posted... lolbooks. That's some liberal arts literature shit. What I'm talking about is statistics aka STEM shit, which is inheritly better for data analysis Poe's Law? Please? --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 07/15/23 3:40:29 PM #51: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm glad you acknowledge my specialty >_> --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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