Current Events > Why does Fahrenheit get so shit upon?

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Outside of cooking or chemistry, it makes intuitive sense. I would say 60 degrees Fahrenheit is an ideal outside temperature, which is roughly in the middle of a 0 - 100 degree scale. In Celsius, 100 becomes 37, which is a really random max temp.

Fahrenheit is not a 0-100 scale.

Celsius only cares about the temperature of water. Fahrenheit tries to arbitrarily approximate what a human would experience and does so quite horribly because one degree to the next is basically indistinguishable.

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Kelvin is the only true measurement of temperature

Because when you get to the lower temperatures it becomes stupid. Why is 32 the freezing point? 0 makes much more sense.

Fahrenheit > Kelvin > Celsius

And I say that as someone that thinks metric is superior to imperial in literally every other measurement, particularly volume.

Zero being the freezing point makes a lot more sense to me.

Fahrenheit is much more precise since it's a smaller unit of measurement. I can't imagine wanting to call 60 degrees as 15.55555 degrees.

I like meters more than feet but I like Fahrenheit more than Celsius because it's more precise

a-c-a-b posted...

Zero being the freezing point makes a lot more sense to me.

Why do you need the freezing point of water as a reference point? To me temperature is used to gauge what I need to wear when I leave my house.

Irony posted...

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Farenheit is very practical from a personal use perspective.

I prefer it over Celsius for day to day use.

For Math / Science use, I'd stick with Celsius.

But outside of work, Farenheit is practical for daily stuff.

Puglia77 posted...

Fahrenheit is much more precise since it's a smaller unit of measurement. I can't imagine wanting to call 60 degrees as 15.55555 degrees.

Just call it 15 or 16.

It's not like there's much of a difference between how they actually feel.

Bigpapaplut posted...

Kelvin is the only true measurement of temperature

All of Human History's various Temperature Scales says otherwise.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/1/AAAFvAAAEtAt.png

Here's how all of the various Temperature Scales are relative to each other:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/2/AAAFvAAAEtAu.png
We all know the Delisle Scale is the odd one out.
It's the only Temperature Scale that is opposite of everybody else.

Here's a basic relative conversion table.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/3/AAAFvAAAEtAv.png

The conversions start to converge with Celsius and become the same once you get near -20. What's up with that? lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/4/AAfUmvAAEIka.jpg

Because it is a crap pathetic scale that makes no sense and it went out with the dinosaurs.

The whole world knows Celsius is the superior scale except for one backwards country. Even the US Weather Bureau uses Celsius.

Pikachuchupika posted...

The conversions start to converge with Celsius and become the same once you get near -20. What's up with that? lol

-40 C = -40 F

That's the identical value point between those two "Temperature Scales".

Where as Kelvin & Rankine are only identical in value at 0 K = 0 R = Absolute Zero

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

-40 C = -40 F

That's the identical value point between the two Temperature Scales.

Gotcha. But the lower you go on the scale, it starts getting closer and closer to Celsius. It's just weird.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

All of Human History's various Temperature Scales says otherwise.

Nah. Kelvin is the only one with scientific application. If you try to use Celsius you'll get nothing but wrong answers.

CassandraCroft posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/4/AAfUmvAAEIka.jpg

Because it is a crap pathetic scale that makes no sense and it went out with the dinosaurs.

The whole world knows Celsius is the superior scale except for one backwards country. Even the US Weather Bureau uses Celsius.

Oh well, the US will march to the beat of it's own drum.

When we meet aliens, don't expect them to have a similar Measurement System to what we have.

Be prepared to make conversion tables and formulas for whatever units they use.

So having to convert from Metric to US Customary is good practice for when Humanity has to deal with Alien Species and their Customary Units that they use.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Nah. Kelvin is the only one with scientific application. If you try to use Celsius you'll get nothing but wrong answers.

^ He isn't wrong.

That's why I failed Philosophy.

Meh even Canadians that live close enough to the border to be Americanized prefer Farenheit. Though they generally use a hybrid system F when its hot and C when its cold.... I may have gotten that backwards I just use F.

NO2_Fiend posted...

Meh even Canadians that live close enough to the border to be Americanized prefer Farenheit. Though they generally use a hybrid system F when its hot and C when its cold.... I may have gotten that backwards I just use F.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/7/AAAFvAAAEtA9.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/8/AAAgM2AAEtA-.png
What happened there?

Requiem posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/8/AAAgM2AAEtA-.png
What happened there?

Reducto zapped it with his shrink ray

Because pegging the scale to something makes it easier to gauge. I know what freezing cold water feels like, and I also know what boiling hot water feels like. What the fuck does X Fahrenheit mean? Who the fuck knows.

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Because pegging the scale to something makes it easier to gauge. I know what freezing cold water feels like, and I also know what boiling hot water feels like. What the fuck does X Fahrenheit mean? Who the fuck knows.

How often do you feel boiling water? Also how often do you feel water that is not boiling but hotter than 50 degrees centigrade?

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Because pegging the scale to something makes it easier to gauge. I know what freezing cold water feels like, and I also know what boiling hot water feels like. What the fuck does X Fahrenheit mean? Who the fuck knows.

I certainly hope you don't know what boiling hot water feels like

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

All of Human History's various Temperature Scales says otherwise.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/1/AAAFvAAAEtAt.png

Here's how all of the various Temperature Scales are relative to each other:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/2/AAAFvAAAEtAu.png
We all know the Delisle Scale is the odd one out.
It's the only Temperature Scale that is opposite of everybody else.

Here's a basic relative conversion table.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/3/AAAFvAAAEtAv.png

The only relevant scale there (Celsius) is literally just Kelvin but shifted

IceCreamOnStero posted...

The only relevant scale there (Celsius) is literally just Kelvin but shifted

Not to us Americans who use F on a regular basis.

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Because pegging the scale to something makes it easier to gauge. I know what freezing cold water feels like, and I also know what boiling hot water feels like. What the fuck does X Fahrenheit mean? Who the fuck knows.

what the fuck is 30 Celsius, sounds cold to me!

CassandraCroft posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/7/4/AAfUmvAAEIka.jpg

That's *almost the map for countries that were able to put a man on the moon vs those that didn't (Belize is the sole exception).

Coincidence? I think not!

Paragon21XX posted...

That's also the map for countries that were able to put a man on the moon vs those that didn't.

Coincidence? I think not!

We use Fahrenheit, ergo we are expert in going far n' height.

preference is preference. honestly, who cares

but what i find weird are the people who will say inches is better cause centimeters is too small, and then turn around and say fahrenheit is better cause celsius isn't small enough

ROBANN_88 posted...

preference is preference. honestly, who cares

I concur

but what i find weird are the people who will say inches is better cause centimeters is too small, and then turn around and say fahrenheit is better cause celsius isn't small enough

For me, the argument as to which unit to use (inches / foot / yard) vs (millimeters / centimeters / meters) are all situational as to which one I prefer to use.

I'm pretty flexible and will use what makes more sense for that thing I care about.

I guess they just want to let out some steam and making fun of Fahrenheit is pretty harmless way to do that

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

I concur

For me, the argument as to which unit to use (inches / foot / yard) vs (millimeters / centimeters / meters) are all situational as to which one I prefer to use. I'm pretty flexible and will use what makes more sense for that thing I care about.

Generally speaking I do think that imperial is better here but I find for longer distances having a longer base unit like a mile make measurement easier.

Or to use a more extreme example, if I was measuring the distance between stars in space, I'd use light-years or parsecs. Not miles or kilometers.

fartingheight

Tyranthraxus posted...

Generally speaking I do think that imperial is better here but I find for longer distances having a longer base unit like a mile make measurement easier.

You know what units of length gets no love?

The (Decimeter, Decameter, & Hectometer) AKA (Decimetre, Decametre, & Hectometre) for those who prefer the French spelling

Nobody wants to use them for some reason to measure length.

Or to use a more extreme example, if I was measuring the distance between stars in space, I'd use light-years or parsecs. Not miles or kilometers.

But measuring things in space is a completely different ordeal, you need completely different units, otherwise using Miles / km gets too unwieldy.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

Nobody wants to use them for some reason to measure length.

Imperial has it's share of that stuff too.

Like nobody knows how long a rod is and most people probably don't even know what the imperial unit the mass is called.

Conversely, I don't know why people who use metric never weigh themselves in newtons.

a cube of 1 Decimeter sides is equal to 1 Liter
fill that with water and it weighs 1 Kilogram
that's simple and intuitive
how do you do that in Imperial?

there's also something about if you use 1 calory of energy to heat 1 gram/1 milliliter of water, it warms up by 1 degree celsius, but i'm not entirely sure on the phrasing for that one

Tyranthraxus posted...

Imperial has it's share of that stuff too.

Like nobody knows how long a rod is and most people probably don't even know what the imperial unit the mass is called.

Conversely, I don't know why people who use metric never weigh themselves in newtons.

Here's my clif-notes for the units that matter in daily use:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/0/AAAFvAAAEtBU.jpg

I don't think Fahrenheit makes that much more sense as a "comfortable temperature" scale. You're just familiar with it. So to you 60F might mean "nice day, middle of the scale" but to me it means nothing. Whereas I can read 24C and immediately know "oh, warm day" (don't laugh 25C is the highest temperature ever recorded in the town I live).

Anyway, why should Fahrenheit be where it is? 0F is really cold? So is -10F, so why not start the scale there? Why not have 0 as a comfortable temperature, and anything above or below that as hot and cold? Fahrenheit does not inherently make any more sense. PLUS 60F being a comfortable temperature is completely dependent on the local environment and what temperatures they're used to. 60F is 15.5C right? I know a lot of people that would consider that cool or even cold.

FurryPhilosifer posted...

I don't think Fahrenheit makes that much more sense as a "comfortable temperature" scale. You're just familiar with it. So to you 60F might mean "nice day, middle of the scale" but to me it means nothing. Whereas I can read 24C and immediately know "oh, warm day" (don't laugh 25C is the highest temperature ever recorded in the town I live).

Anyway, why should Fahrenheit be where it is? 0F is really cold? So is -10F, so why not start the scale there? Why not have 0 as a comfortable temperature, and anything above or below that as hot and cold? Fahrenheit does not inherently make any more sense. PLUS 60F being a comfortable temperature is completely dependent on the local environment and what temperatures they're used to. 60F is 15.5C right? I know a lot of people that would consider that cool or even cold.

It is simple to consider: Celsius is based around water, Fahrenheit is based around humans. You are correct in that it's all based on what you're used to, but in general terms being more fine grain makes Fahrenheit much better for ambient temperatures.

Not sure why you make a big deal about the "starting point" of Fahrenheit. It comes across as a completely random nitpicking over something that doesn't actually matter.

FurryPhilosifer posted...

I don't think Fahrenheit makes that much more sense as a "comfortable temperature" scale. You're just familiar with it. So to you 60F might mean "nice day, middle of the scale" but to me it means nothing. Whereas I can read 24C and immediately know "oh, warm day" (don't laugh 25C is the highest temperature ever recorded in the town I live).

Anyway, why should Fahrenheit be where it is? 0F is really cold? So is -10F, so why not start the scale there? Why not have 0 as a comfortable temperature, and anything above or below that as hot and cold? Fahrenheit does not inherently make any more sense. PLUS 60F being a comfortable temperature is completely dependent on the local environment and what temperatures they're used to. 60F is 15.5C right? I know a lot of people that would consider that cool or even cold.

Define what a "Comfortable Temperature" is?

That's going to vary drastically from person to person, including region to region.

& Humidity is going to screw that up.

Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...

Define what a "Comfortable Temperature" is?

That's going to vary drastically from person to person, including region to region.

& Humidity is going to screw that up.

That's exactly my point. TC called 60F an ideal outside temperature, where to me in the humidity of the area I live in, it's a bit warm. Yet I know some people that consider it jacket weather.

I'd use the phrase "things went from 0 to 100 real quick" but it's apparently controversial.

when it really comes down to it, do you really need temperature to be super accurate anyway?
how often do you need to say "is it 85 or 86 degrees F?" that the prospect of needing to go "29.4 or 30 C?" is at risk of being an issue?

hell, if we're just talking wheather, it might as well just be cut down to "do i need to wear a jacket, or can i wear shorts today?" and skip the numbers entirely

Its because of how jealous they are because Fahrenheit is so much better

USA! USA! USA!

ROBANN_88 posted...

when it really comes down to it, do you really need temperature to be super accurate anyway?
how often do you need to say "is it 85 or 86 degrees F?" that the prospect of needing to go "29.4 or 30 C?" is at risk of being an issue?

hell, if we're just talking wheather, it might as well just be cut down to "do i need to wear a jacket, or can i wear shorts today?" and skip the numbers entirely

You hate numbers?