Board 8 > Games with really good side quests?

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paperwarior 07/31/23 12:45:11 AM #51:	Those are a different case, and I usually think of them more as side-modes or minigames rather than sidequests. In the case of Yakuza, it's not because of the super varied and engaging gameplay that people love Substories. It's because of the absurd scenarios and bizarre tone shifts. Ghost of Tsushima and Nier are other examples. The gameplay within them isn't necessarily that interesting or different from the main formula of the game, but the stories told through them are. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:975165426] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Those are a different case, and I usually think of them more as side-modes or minigames rather than sidequests. In the case of Yakuza, it's not because of the super varied and engaging gameplay that people love Substories. It's because of the absurd scenarios and bizarre tone shifts. Ghost of Tsushima and Nier are other examples. The gameplay within them isn't necessarily that interesting or different from the main formula of the game, but the stories told through them are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 07/31/23 1:32:38 AM #52:	this isnt a sidequest and more of an epilogue, but Lunar 2's epilogue is some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:975165850] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>this isnt a sidequest and more of an epilogue, but Lunar 2's epilogue is some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 07/31/23 9:45:22 AM #53:	MacArrowny posted... You think people immediately answered Blitzball and Triple Triad for the narrative rather than the gameplay? Blitzball absolutely. It was the coolest shit ever back in the 2000s. The gameplay itself was boring garbage that most people didn't even learn to play at a basic level, so it's definitely not that. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975169727] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>You think people immediately answered Blitzball and Triple Triad for the narrative rather than the gameplay?</quote>Blitzball absolutely. It was the coolest shit ever back in the 2000s. The gameplay itself was boring garbage that most people didn't even learn to play at a basic level, so it's definitely not that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 07/31/23 1:31:31 PM #54:	I would assume most people who dislike Blitzball gameplay don't do the side quest, but maybe I'm wrong there. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:975172059] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>I would assume most people who dislike Blitzball gameplay don't do the side quest, but maybe I'm wrong there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 07/31/23 1:52:27 PM #55:	The reward is great, so not sure. But I also find Blitzball to be the most overrated thing in FF, and it isn't even that liked. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:975172435] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>The reward is great, so not sure.But I also find Blitzball to be the most overrated thing in FF, and it isn't even that liked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 07/31/23 2:04:01 PM #56:	Blitzball was the shit until I got to be far too good at it. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:975172645] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Blitzball was the shit until I got to be far too good at it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 07/31/23 2:33:27 PM #57:	Blitzball is cool but I've always felt like most of its detractors hate it because they don't turn on manual control and/or lost the story tournament. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:975173168] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Blitzball is cool but I've always felt like most of its detractors hate it because they don't turn on manual control and/or lost the story tournament.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 07/31/23 3:32:12 PM #58:	The story Blitzball match is annoying. The opponents are big jerks to you so you want to win, but you're at enough of a disadvantage to have to rely on RNG, and it takes more work than it should to retry if you lose. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:975174280] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>The story Blitzball match is annoying. The opponents are big jerks to you so you want to win, but you're at enough of a disadvantage to have to rely on RNG, and it takes more work than it should to retry if you lose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/31/23 3:41:01 PM #59:	As long as you don't mess up the prompt to learn the Jecht Shot, all you need to do is get Tidus to level up in the first half, and the Jecht Shot is an instant goal in the second half. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:975174485] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>As long as you don't mess up the prompt to learn the Jecht Shot, all you need to do is get Tidus to level up in the first half, and the Jecht Shot is an instant goal in the second half.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 07/31/23 3:42:29 PM #60:	It's basically designed to be a terrible experience, especially since they dump SO much info and stats on you all at once, so you feel like you actually have a chance, but you absolutely don't unless you switch to manual and know all the quirks AND even in that case, you need Jecht Shot to really win consistently. If they just threw you into the match quickly and made you lose quickly, it would've still had the narrative effect of being an underdog, but without the sour experience. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975174515] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>It's basically designed to be a terrible experience, especially since they dump SO much info and stats on you all at once, so you feel like you actually have a chance, but you absolutely don't unless you switch to manual and know all the quirks AND even in that case, you need Jecht Shot to really win consistently. If they just threw you into the match quickly and made you lose quickly, it would've still had the narrative effect of being an underdog, but without the sour experience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/31/23 3:57:58 PM #61:	Does the game even tell you that you can switch to manual? I had to find that out from the internet. Also the Jecht Shot is extremely easy to miss, and hiding the mode's most important ability behind a one-off QTE in the middle of an unskippable cutscene is ludicrous. Blitzball basically makes the worst first impression it possibly could. --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:975174828] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Does the game even tell you that you can switch to manual? I had to find that out from the internet. Also the Jecht Shot is extremely easy to miss, and hiding the mode's most important ability behind a one-off QTE in the middle of an unskippable cutscene is ludicrous. Blitzball basically makes the worst first impression it possibly could.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 07/31/23 4:00:44 PM #62:	You also don't know what you're doing at the time because it's the first game of Blitzball you've ever played. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:975174877] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>You also don't know what you're doing at the time because it's the first game of Blitzball you've ever played.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/31/23 4:01:34 PM #63:	KamikazePotato posted... Does the game even tell you that you can switch to manual? I had to find that out from the internet. Also the Jecht Shot is extremely easy to miss, and hiding the mode's most important ability behind a one-off QTE in the middle of an unskippable cutscene is ludicrous. Blitzball basically makes the worst first impression it possibly could. If you take the time to watch every single aspect of the lengthy tutorial, it does mention you can switch to manual control. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:975174892] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Does the game even tell you that you can switch to manual? I had to find that out from the internet. Also the Jecht Shot is extremely easy to miss, and hiding the mode's most important ability behind a one-off QTE in the middle of an unskippable cutscene is ludicrous. Blitzball basically makes the worst first impression it possibly could.</quote>If you take the time to watch every single aspect of the lengthy tutorial, it does mention you can switch to manual control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 07/31/23 4:11:00 PM #64:	MacArrowny posted... You think people immediately answered Blitzball and Triple Triad for the narrative rather than the gameplay? Add Chocobo Hot & Cold for another one that's fun for the gameplay. Just seeing the word blitzball makes me want to start a new league --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:975175055] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>You think people immediately answered Blitzball and Triple Triad for the narrative rather than the gameplay?Add Chocobo Hot & Cold for another one that's fun for the gameplay.</quote>Just seeing the word blitzball makes me want to start a new league</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 07/31/23 4:32:08 PM #65:	I remember my first playthrough I read that you could switch to manual, but I had no idea how to actually do it in the game. I thought I was on manual since I could choose my character's breaking actions, but only later did I find the triangle menu and was so pissed. Also Jecht Shot is weak but you can very reliably rush the goal and initiate a break encounter with just 2 defenders 90% of the time. The other 10% it's just 3, which only requires small RNG to score. This also requires you to know the secret button that forces an encounter. So overall the strategy requires you to know 3 secrets to win that first match. I can't say I don't find that charming, after replaying the game like 8x. But it's reallyyyy bad for the first playthrough. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975175454] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>I remember my first playthrough I read that you could switch to manual, but I had no idea how to actually do it in the game. I thought I was on manual since I could choose my character's breaking actions, but only later did I find the triangle menu and was so pissed.Also Jecht Shot is weak but you can very reliably rush the goal and initiate a break encounter with just 2 defenders 90% of the time. The other 10% it's just 3, which only requires small RNG to score. This also requires you to know the secret button that forces an encounter. So overall the strategy requires you to know 3 secrets to win that first match.I can't say I don't find that charming, after replaying the game like 8x. But it's reallyyyy bad for the first playthrough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 07/31/23 4:38:33 PM #66:	YoBlazer posted... We might have found a new standard. Hot take: I think Majora's Mask has like, one good sidequest. Most of MM's sidequests are kind of annoying. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:975175592] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>YoBlazer posted... </cite><quote>We might have found a new standard.</quote>Hot take: I think Majora's Mask has like, one good sidequest. Most of MM's sidequests are kind of annoying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningStrikes 07/31/23 4:53:59 PM #67:	Zelda games in general have very good side quests. TotKs are excellent but those feel like they shouldnt count. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>LightningStrikes posted [p:975175836] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Zelda games in general have very good side quests. TotKs are excellent but those feel like they shouldnt count.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 07/31/23 5:00:29 PM #68:	foolm0r0n posted... I remember my first playthrough I read that you could switch to manual, but I had no idea how to actually do it in the game. I thought I was on manual since I could choose my character's breaking actions, but only later did I find the triangle menu and was so pissed. Also Jecht Shot is weak but you can very reliably rush the goal and initiate a break encounter with just 2 defenders 90% of the time. The other 10% it's just 3, which only requires small RNG to score. This also requires you to know the secret button that forces an encounter. So overall the strategy requires you to know 3 secrets to win that first match. I can't say I don't find that charming, after replaying the game like 8x. But it's reallyyyy bad for the first playthrough. I've won that first game without jecht shot before, though it's much harder. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:975175933] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>I remember my first playthrough I read that you could switch to manual, but I had no idea how to actually do it in the game. I thought I was on manual since I could choose my character's breaking actions, but only later did I find the triangle menu and was so pissed.Also Jecht Shot is weak but you can very reliably rush the goal and initiate a break encounter with just 2 defenders 90% of the time. The other 10% it's just 3, which only requires small RNG to score. This also requires you to know the secret button that forces an encounter. So overall the strategy requires you to know 3 secrets to win that first match.I can't say I don't find that charming, after replaying the game like 8x. But it's reallyyyy bad for the first playthrough.</quote>I've won that first game without jecht shot before, though it's much harder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 07/31/23 5:27:05 PM #69:	I think I have too but it was by getting 1 lucky goal with Sphere Shot and then running behind my goal to bleed out the clock --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975176352] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>I think I have too but it was by getting 1 lucky goal with Sphere Shot and then running behind my goal to bleed out the clock</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega_Mana 07/31/23 5:41:44 PM #70:	MacArrowny posted... The Trails games. I often like the side quests better than the main game story --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega_Mana posted [p:975176601] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>The Trails games. I often like the side quests better than the main game story</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 08/01/23 3:23:14 AM #71:	Xiahou_Shake posted... Blitzball is cool but I've always felt like most of its detractors hate it because they don't turn on manual control and/or lost the story tournament. It's the inability to do anything when the opposition has the ball. Which stops being a problem real fast too as it gets to easy but that isn't exactly a fix. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:975184709] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Xiahou_Shake posted... </cite><quote>Blitzball is cool but I've always felt like most of its detractors hate it because they don't turn on manual control and/or lost the story tournament.</quote>It's the inability to do anything when the opposition has the ball.Which stops being a problem real fast too as it gets to easy but that isn't exactly a fix. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 08/01/23 9:49:03 AM #72:	KamikazePotato posted... Also the Jecht Shot is extremely easy to miss, and hiding the mode's most important ability behind a one-off QTE in the middle of an unskippable cutscene is ludicrous. I loved Blitzball from the beginning without even having Jecht's Shot, but this is fair and I always hated this choice from a design perspective. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:975187653] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted... </cite><quote>Also the Jecht Shot is extremely easy to miss, and hiding the mode's most important ability behind a one-off QTE in the middle of an unskippable cutscene is ludicrous.</quote>I loved Blitzball from the beginning without even having Jecht's Shot, but this is fair and I always hated this choice from a design perspective.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 08/01/23 5:25:34 PM #73:	Paratroopa1 posted... Hot take: I think Majora's Mask has like, one good sidequest. Most of MM's sidequests are kind of annoying. I think the way MM's quests are structured is a really cool concept, but yeah, I only really remember a couple of them. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:975195330] in Games with... [t:80523238]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>Hot take: I think Majora's Mask has like, one good sidequest. Most of MM's sidequests are kind of annoying.</quote>I think the way MM's quests are structured is a really cool concept, but yeah, I only really remember a couple of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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