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Cobra1010
07/31/23 12:18:53 AM
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Calling their games Final Fantasy when they don't even set in the same universe. They are so different, they just keep what basically are easter eggs like calling fire spells fira, firaga etc and keeping a few constants like chocobos, summons, monsters etc.

They just make what ever the fuck games they want and then capitalise on the final fantasy name.

I can't think of another series that does this. Even persona seems to set in the same universe. Every game has the velvet room and Igor which isn't just an easter egg.

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Zikten
07/31/23 12:20:14 AM
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I see it as every FF game is in the same universe but on a different planet
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Tyranthraxus
07/31/23 12:21:43 AM
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Tales series does it as well.

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LordFarquad1312
07/31/23 12:24:00 AM
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Dragon Quest.
Atelier.
Tales.
Fire Emblem.

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pegusus123456
07/31/23 12:26:56 AM
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While I've only played two of them (counting FF7 and the remake as one), I kind of like it. The big Eikons being the summons from previous games is really fun.

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Cobra1010
07/31/23 12:27:22 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Dragon Quest.
Atelier.
Tales.
Fire Emblem.

Never played any of those games. Seems like this is a thing for Japanese games.

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SiO4
07/31/23 12:30:48 AM
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Well, Capcom fucked up the Resident Evil Series, so there is that.

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LordFarquad1312
07/31/23 12:31:37 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Never played any of those games. Seems like this is a thing for Japanese games.
Most of the time, the titular Fire Emblem isn't even related to fire, and "emblem" is such a vague term that it can be applied to anything.

The worst offender is 3 houses, where it's a crest. A CREST!

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Ricemills
07/31/23 12:31:54 AM
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Wild Arms
Breath of Fire
Super Robot Wars. Technically they're all on earth, but different history of earth depends on the series. Like J/K/L didn't have the share the same universe but Z/Z2.1/Z2.2/Z3.1/Z3.2 does.


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BakonBitz
07/31/23 12:36:58 AM
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Yeah, Final Fantasy is far from the only series that treats its name as just a brand.

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name_unknown
07/31/23 12:57:01 AM
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LoZ is a different Link most of the time and never really meant to have a timeline which was made latter.
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Shadowplay
07/31/23 1:03:59 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Dragon Quest
This one isn't the best example given that the first three games form a trilogy taking place generations apart from one another and reference characters from the previous chronogical game in the trilogy. The same is true even of 4-6 with characters from other games in the trilogy making some limited appearances or references. Hell, the 8th game even implies that a character in it came from the world of the third game.

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Ricemills
07/31/23 1:07:04 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
This one isn't the best example given that the first three games form a trilogy taking place generations apart from one another and reference characters from the previous chronogical game in the trilogy. The same is true even of 4-6 with characters from other games in the trilogy making some limited appearances or references. Hell, the 8th game even implies that a character in it came from the world of the third game.

Heck, it's made by Square Enix so it should be never mentioned in the first place.

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flussence
07/31/23 1:14:50 AM
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Of all the things to call squenix shameless for, this seems pretty nothingburger.

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ImagineUsngAlts
07/31/23 1:17:05 AM
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By this logic reboots should change the name of the franchise.

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GiftedACIII
07/31/23 1:19:03 AM
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Bioshock infinite.
Comic book brands in general.

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SwayM
07/31/23 1:19:36 AM
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Someone doesnt know what shameless means.

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RndmNmber1
07/31/23 1:21:12 AM
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Gundams doing this starting with G.

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GATTJT
07/31/23 1:24:43 AM
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Get over it

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BurmesePenguin
07/31/23 1:45:09 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
The worst offender is 3 houses, where it's a crest. A CREST!
I fail to see how a crest isn't an emblem.

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Xerun
07/31/23 2:07:31 AM
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How is this shameless?

isnt it worse when a company slaps a 2 on a game adds one or two new mechanics and then has the main character lose all their abilities only to slowly regain the exact same abilities you had in the first game

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dave_is_slick
07/31/23 2:14:45 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Most of the time, the titular Fire Emblem isn't even related to fire, and "emblem" is such a vague term that it can be applied to anything.

The worst offender is 3 houses, where it's a crest. A CREST!
A crest is an emblem though.

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Mussurana
07/31/23 2:33:53 AM
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You hardly ever play as Zelda in her legend, what's up with that?

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Sad_Face
07/31/23 2:46:07 AM
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GATTJT posted...
Get over it

This question was asked during FFXVI's development. OP's quite perceptive that FF has next to no identity nowadays.

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Enclave
07/31/23 2:49:30 AM
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SO many game series do this, it's a complete non-issue.

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Foppe
07/31/23 2:54:03 AM
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name_unknown posted...
LoZ is a different Link most of the time and never really meant to have a timeline which was made latter.
It has always had a timeline.
AoL was always the sequel to LoZ.
LttP was always a prequel.
LA was always a sequel to LttP.

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sfcalimari
07/31/23 3:05:57 AM
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I always thought it was pretty bold of them to make each game pretty unique and its own thing instead of just going back to the same world and locations and characters over and over again. A lot of aging series could do with a bit of that.

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ImagineUsngAlts
08/03/23 6:26:46 AM
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Just realized Black MIrror/Twilight Zone is the ultimate in this, every episode is a different continuity.

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Revisited
08/03/23 6:44:00 AM
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... that's your idea of shameless? Not the countless other things they've done that put this so called shameless thing to shame?
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The_Korey
08/03/23 6:53:45 AM
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Zikten posted...
I see it as every FF game is in the same universe but on a different planet

Even that doesn't work for me. The backstory for the espers/eidolons/summons changes between most games, as does whether or not an esper dimension exists or how it works. Then theres how in one universe, krystals are at the kore of every planet and thier health dictates it's survival, but in another universe, there are no krystals and planets are tied to a lifestream.

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Foppe
08/03/23 1:50:31 PM
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We got gas planets, rock planets, heck, we got a planet made of diamonds, why cant the same universe have Galaxy A where crystals dictates planets and Galaxy B where a life stream dictates planets?

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