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Kim_Seong-a
08/05/23 10:46:49 PM
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Like it'll do something that makes me go "oh, this is so cool!" and then 5 minutes later make me go "this is fucking stupid", then 5 minutes after that say "wait, no, it's cool again!"

Sector 7 Slums are great. Scrotum Ghosts are stupid. Making the circumstances surrounding the first bombing a bit more complex to flesh out the morality and characterization of Avalanche is cool. But wasting an hour of my life on some do-nothing sidequest capping off with a fight against some jackass on a motorcycle is stupid.

Nevermind the game pestering you with micro-cutscenes every few minutes asking "Hey player, are you going the right way? This is the right way player, did you figure that out? Just to let you know, you're going the right way. Keep going this way!" Jesucristo just fucking let me run these dungeons damn lol. Or slowing Cloud down to a snail's pace for no goddamn reason. "Uh-oh, Cloud's inside somebody's house. Better make him move like molasses". That's not immersion it's just fucking annoying <_<

Making Jessie into a drama geek is amazing though and I love her even more. This is counterbalanced by the game turning Wedge from a dumb, but inoffensive side character into the absolute bane of my existence.

Game is fun but the more I play the more I feel like dropping it and just playing the original lol. Only thing keeping me going is the Yuffie (aka best FF character) DLC. I will not be deterred by petty annoyances of modern AAA gaming. I will reach Yuffie.

...also where the fuck is my FF9 remake, Square?! I want to waste six hours of my life chasing pointless sidequests in Lindblum!

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pegusus123456
08/05/23 10:48:16 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Scrotum Ghosts are stupid
Ho boy

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SpiritSephiroth
08/05/23 11:01:16 PM
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Strange that I never felt any of this. Absolutely loved the remake and its on track for taking over the original for me.

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Kim_Seong-a
08/05/23 11:05:32 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Strange that I never felt any of this. Absolutely loved the remake and its on track for taking over the original for me.

I refuse to believe you or anyone else liked Roche. If the game is a base 10/10 his mere existence brings it down to a 9. Fuck him and his stupid hair and his stupid yeehaw bullshit. I hope he takes a bullet right between the eyes. >_>

pegusus123456 posted...
Ho boy

They look like they're made of wrinkly scrotum flesh <_<

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pegusus123456
08/05/23 11:07:49 PM
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I dunno, Roche seemed perfectly in line with the tone of the original game for me.

If it's any comfort, he either doesn't show up again after the motorcycle fight or it's only very briefly.

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SpiritSephiroth
08/05/23 11:10:40 PM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
I refuse to believe you or anyone else liked Roche. If the game is a base 10/10 his mere existence brings it down to a 9. Fuck him and his stupid hair and his stupid yeehaw bullshit. I hope he takes a bullet right between the eyes. >_>

Eh well I guess there's nothing I can say to change your mind lol

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Guns_of_Verdun
08/05/23 11:12:17 PM
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I enjoyed but the padding was so silly.

Every story beat was stretched out, every section of the game had multiple times where your just ran back and forth down corridors fighting enemies. You can cut 5-7 hours (at least) of the game and lose absolutely nothing.

And I really don't feel like the whole "This is a new timeline, the original game happened and we're undoing it because of magic. Here are grim reaper ghosts!" aspected added anything. It just took away

Maybe future installments will do something with it, but as a standalone product the flaws really hold it back.

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indica
08/05/23 11:37:00 PM
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I got it recently but I haven't got the time to play it. Can I just do the main quests and skip all the boring side missions?

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Guns_of_Verdun
08/05/23 11:38:37 PM
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indica posted...
I got it recently but I haven't got the time to play it. Can I just do the main quests and skip all the boring side missions?
Yes.

The side missions are fully optional.

Problem is a chunk of the main quests are boring too. It's a very padded game. They try to make up for how little of the OG the remake actually covers by stretching everything out.

And I guess it worked, they've made millions but man does it drag at times

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Quorthon109
08/05/23 11:39:31 PM
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Most of the stuff listed didn't bother me but the forced walking drove me crazy

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pegusus123456
08/05/23 11:40:01 PM
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indica posted...
I got it recently but I haven't got the time to play it. Can I just do the main quests and skip all the boring side missions?
Some of the weapons are locked behind them.

I didn't find them that bad honestly, FF16's are worse.

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PowerOats
08/05/23 11:43:30 PM
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I dont understand people complaining about padding

a small number of side missions, some more lore on characters who probably has 10 or less lines in og, expanding your combat opportunities in whats usually a 6 hour section in og

the worst padding this game has is chapter 14 sewer revisit and the length of chapter 17 maybe. 6 harmless sidequests every 6 hours vs 16 slew of fetch quests... id take 7Remakes method
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Baha05
08/05/23 11:45:03 PM
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PowerOats posted...
I dont understand people complaining about padding

a small number of side missions, some more lore on characters who probably has 10 or less lines in og, expanding your combat opportunities in whats usually a 6 hour section in og

the worst padding this game has is chapter 14 sewer revisit and the length of chapter 17 maybe. 6 harmless sidequests every 6 hours vs 16 slew of fetch quests... id take 7Remakes method
People need to complain about the game to whatever degree since it was just Midgar.

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party_animal07
08/05/23 11:47:16 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Every story beat was stretched out, every section of the game had multiple times where your just ran back and forth down corridors fighting enemies. You can cut 5-7 hours (at least) of the game and lose absolutely nothing.
Sounds like an rpg to me.

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pegusus123456
08/05/23 11:47:26 PM
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Yeah, it didn't really feel like padding to me. If there were no original to compare it to, I think a lot of what people call padding wouldn't be classified as such.

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Squall28
08/05/23 11:48:37 PM
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I had a similar feeling. The re-imagined parts of the main game like Wall market was amazing. All the story changings they made were stupid though.

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Baha05
08/05/23 11:49:02 PM
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I mean when Rebirth comes put you think we will get that goofy ass scene of Hojo chilling at the beach?

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Kim_Seong-a
08/05/23 11:49:09 PM
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Honeslty I kind of liked the few side quests I've done so far. They're basic but there's enough flavor to them that they make the world feel a little more alive.

I'm a sucker for a fun world/setting. I can stomach trite gameplay objectives so long as the world I'm in feels fun to do it in. Really looking forward to see what they do with the Gold Saucer in the next game.

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pegusus123456
08/05/23 11:50:29 PM
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Baha05 posted...
I mean when Rebirth comes put you think we will get that goofy ass scene of Hojo chilling at the beach?
I don't think so, he's much more openly loathsome in this one.

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Guns_of_Verdun
08/05/23 11:51:15 PM
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Baha05 posted...
I mean when Rebirth comes put you think we will get that goofy ass scene of Hojo chilling at the beach?
Considering what they did with Hellhouse and Cloud getting a dress, wouldn't surprise me if there was whole section where Hojo is hosting a spring break party

Barrett in a Sailor Suit will get a whole 5 mintue cutscene with QTEs too

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Baha05
08/05/23 11:53:36 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I don't think so, he's much more openly loathsome in this one.
True buuutttt

Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Considering what they did with Hellhouse and Cloud getting a dress, wouldn't surprise me if there was whole section where Hojo is hosting a spring break party

Barrett in a Sailor Suit will get a whole 5 mintue cutscene with QTEs too

This too

And oh god I can only imagine marching for Rufus

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ViewtifulGrave
08/05/23 11:54:33 PM
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Squall28 posted...
I had a similar feeling. The re-imagined parts of the main game like Wall market was amazing. All the story changings they made were stupid though.
Whats wrong with the changes to the story?

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Baha05
08/05/23 11:55:52 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Whats wrong with the changes to the story?
People think its bad or might lead into the game being more a sequel without the full story. I think most people also ignore the fact that the title Remake can hold two different meanings.

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Guns_of_Verdun
08/05/23 11:59:48 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Whats wrong with the changes to the story?
The changes don't add anything and make the game worse

The scenes with the ghosts are bad, people not reacting to the ghosts is just awkward. Removing the consequence of Zack dying kinda defeats half the drive of the backstory and considering you won and save the world in the OG, it becomes kinda weird that as the player you're effectively fighting to risk destroying the world by changing history.

Granted the future installments might go somewhere but at present it's just bad.


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pegusus123456
08/06/23 12:03:43 AM
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Maybe don't discuss the events of the story in a topic where TC is playing it for the first time. Someone inevitably stops bothering with tags.

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Unknown5uspect
08/06/23 12:28:45 AM
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Baha05 posted...
I think most people also ignore the fact that the title Remake can hold two different meanings.
Probably has to do with the word remake almost never being used in that context when referring to a video game.

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GuerrillaSoldier
08/06/23 12:38:55 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Whats wrong with the changes to the story?
fucking everything

are you kidding


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BakonBitz
08/06/23 1:23:39 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
The scenes with the ghosts are bad, people not reacting to the ghosts is just awkward.
I just want to point out that they are invisible to anybody else unless they came into contact with Aerith. People being able to see them spreads like a virus, essentially. Cloud didn't see them until the very moment he touched her, other party members don't see them unless they come into contact with Cloud afterwards, which is why Rufus could see them but Tseng could not.

Regardless it doesn't matter now since they're all gone.

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pegusus123456
08/06/23 1:25:06 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Someone inevitably stops bothering with tags
Oh, look, I was right.

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BakonBitz
08/06/23 1:27:07 AM
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Whoops, I fixed it. I'm sorry.

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ViewtifulGrave
08/06/23 3:38:23 AM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
The changes don't add anything and make the game worse

The scenes with the ghosts are bad, people not reacting to the ghosts is just awkward. Removing the consequence of Zack dying kinda defeats half the drive of the backstory and considering you won and save the world in the OG, it becomes kinda weird that as the player you're effectively fighting to risk destroying the world by changing history.

Granted the future installments might go somewhere but at present it's just bad.
Why would people react to something they cant see? OG FF7 is the bad end seeing as humanity died out in the future and Advent Children shows us the start of that. Zach is still dead, but in an alternate timeline he survived. Sephiroth is the one changing history.

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dave_is_slick
08/06/23 3:49:32 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
They look like they're made of wrinkly scrotum flesh <_<
They look like raggedy robes dude.

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pegusus123456
08/06/23 3:50:12 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
They look like raggedy robes dude.
Scrotes look like raggedy robes tho

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Mad-Dogg
08/06/23 3:58:23 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
I refuse to believe you or anyone else liked Roche.
I enjoyed roche, you kiddin' me? lol. Thats some good cheese.

I also prefer them having more named soldier 3rds like roche compared to just fighting generic soldier 3rds in random battles like in the OG game. I expect for them to come up with some named soldier 2nd class also.

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itachi15243
08/06/23 4:25:12 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Why would people react to something they cant see? OG FF7 is the bad end seeing as humanity died out in the future and Advent Children shows us the start of that. Zach is still dead, but in an alternate timeline he survived. Sephiroth is the one changing history.

I'm confused. Am I forgetting something, it did you not see the end of advent children where Cloud saved the day, holy activated in proper, and everyone who was still suffering from geostigma was healed?

Yeah, I really hope they improve on some of the more annoying parts of the remake in Rebirth. I personally don't mind the minor story changes much though. As long as they don't go too far with it anyways.

Also, considering that we know that there's only going to be 3 parts, Rebirth is gonna have to cover an insane amount amount of story compared to Remake. I hope the opposite issue doesn't arise with the game feeling like it doesn't have enough padding, or that they are flying stuff to make it all fit or anything.

Still excited that we'll basically get half the original game remade for rebirth though.

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Baha05
08/06/23 4:28:16 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
I'm confused. Am I forgetting something, it did you not see the end of advent children where Cloud saved the day, holy activated in proper, and everyone who was still suffering from geostigma was healed?

Yeah, I really hope they improve on some of the more annoying parts of the remake in Rebirth. I personally don't mind the minor story changes much though. As long as they don't go too far with it anyways.

Also, considering that we know that there's only going to be 3 parts, Rebirth is gonna have to cover an insane amount amount of story compared to Remake. I hope the opposite issue doesn't arise with the game feeling like it doesn't have enough padding, or that they are flying stuff to make it all fit or anything.

Still excited that we'll basically get half the original game remade for rebirth though.
Its probably based on the ending of FFVII where we see Red and his children look at the ruins of Midgar it is assumed that humanity died out at that point. Granted Ultimanias exist so it might be in one of those books

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itachi15243
08/06/23 4:38:23 AM
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Baha05 posted...
Its probably based on the ending of FFVII where we see Red and his children look at the ruins of Midgar it is assumed that humanity died out at that point. Granted Ultimanias exist so it might be in one of those books

Apparently the original director did say that humanity had died out at that point, however that was before any of the compilation stuff, including advent children. Even more confusing is that Red references that in the remake and basically say that's the bad ending, where Cloud fails.

Honestly it would be nice to get a less ambiguous ending this time.

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ultimate_reaver
08/06/23 4:55:16 AM
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Yeah. Its ultimately not worth it and descends into pure strain brain dead modern square shit

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