Current Events > Ridley Scott regrets directing Alien: Covenant over Blade Runner 2049

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Now for some reason hes making a sequel to Gladiator, which for whatever reason is generally considered a good, even great movie.

I thought I already shared my views on Gladiator.

And yes, Gladiator is bad fictional melodrama.

I have no issue with the colour palette, though.

He just upset he got showed up

DeadBankerDream posted...

I thought I already shared my views on Gladiator.

And yes, Gladiator is bad fictional melodrama.

I have no issue with the colour palette, though.

Understood

So why are you even continuing to watch his films if I could ask? You don't even like Gladiator, probably his most acclaimed film, and you were still trying to figure out if you liked his movies nearly 20 years later when you watched Alien Covenant.

Because I love Blade Runner Black Hawk Down and Alien and other works of his and not everything he makes is bad and occasionally he is unintentionally hilarious like Prometheus. Like I said, The Martian is an extremely cozy movie that I like, I just object to your descriptor of it as a masterpiece. It's clearly several steps below his more classic work. I just have very low expectations of anything he puts out today and I think you're deluding yourself if you think that he would have made a version of Blade Runner 2049 anywhere near as good as VIlleneue's.

Hell we all know he would have made some dumb story about how Deckard is a replicant and he would have explained the backstory of it in extremely dumb details like he did for the Alien in Prometheus.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Because I love Blade Runner Black Hawk Down and Alien and other works of his and not everything he makes is bad and occasionally he is unintentionally hilarious like Prometheus. Like I said, The Martian is an extremely cozy movie that I like, I just object to your descriptor of it as a masterpiece. It's clearly several steps below his more classic work. I just have very low expectations of anything he puts out today and I think you're deluding yourself if you think that he would have made a version of Blade Runner 2049 anywhere near as good as VIlleneue's.

Hell we all know he would have made some dumb story about how Deckard is a replicant.

Sorry man I never called The Martian a masterpiece, I just think it's really good!

I think I mostly misunderstood your old man fart movie descriptor lol. It made it sound like you were really down on The Martian, but I know that's not the case now.

But I was never talking him making BR2049 as good as Villeneuve to begin with. My first post was quoting a user claiming that Scott couldn't make a movie as good as Alien or Gladiator again, and my response was that he's done so multiple times since Gladiator came out, with the most recent example being The Last Duel in 2022. I never said one word about BR2049, mostly because it's the one Villenueve movie I haven't seen since he came out with Prisoners.

Hey, I like Scott a lot. I just don't think his recent projects (except for Raised by Wolves, The Duel, and The Martian) have been very good. He could have had way more control over the course of Prometheus and Covenant and I don't like what he did or didn't do with them.

I think that's totally reasonable and respectful as to why I'm glad he didn't direct 2049.

I actually liked Prometheus but Covenant was lacking. Yeah he should have chosen blade runner sequel.

The Martian is one of my favorite films ever. Probably my favorite Ridley Scott movie besides alien

Blade Runner 2049 turned out awesome as is so Im glad things played out in the way that they did.

Ruvan22 posted...

I didn't see too many details on Blomkamp's ideas - what do we know of his direction?

There weren't a lot of details revealed, just that it would ignore Alien 3 and Resurrection and would feature Ripley, Hicks and Newt. There was some artwork including Hicks with his face scarred from the acid.

codey posted...

But that's the thing, he had plenty of misses when he was putting out movies like Gladiator and Alien (Black Rain, Someone to Watch Over Me, 1492, White Squall all came out between those movies and are all pretty bad), and he's still putting out his hits today. Movies like The Last Duel and The Martian might not be S+ tier films like Gladiator and Alien, but they're fantastic films that show he's still every bit as capable as he's ever been to put out a great movie.

Someone to Watch Over Me is probably one of my favorite films of his. The end song from the credits is one of the best of all time and cannot be purchased. The closest youll ever get is the amazing Sting cover which could be found on Sting At The Movies (I think the CD was called) and I had to get that imported from Japan. He invented a filming technique for softening blue shadows at night by bouncing the studio lights off the cars and cabs along the street which give those outdoor scenes that proper 80s Downtown NYC ambiance which really cant be replicated.

Does anyone know a more inconsistent director? I mean someone who has made multiple movies considered outright classics and then also pure shit?

bsp77 posted...

Does anyone know a more inconsistent director? I mean someone who has made multiple movies considered outright classics and then also pure shit?

George Lucas?

bsp77 posted...

Does anyone know a more inconsistent director? I mean someone who has made multiple movies considered outright classics and then also pure shit?

Woody Allen

Probably loads of directors if I sat down and thought about it.

Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut is an excellent film albeit too influenced by the War on Terror

Refn and Lars von Trier

The movie is gonna be epic

Its gonna be shocking

Its gonna be amazing

Seldom all three but always at least two out off three

AndreLeGeant posted...

Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut is an excellent film albeit too influenced by the War on Terror

What's the difference between the Director's Cut and regular? I really liked the movie's examination of "good of the many versus good of the few" when Bloom was asked to kill the king...

Ruvan22 posted...

What's the difference between the Director's Cut and regular? I really liked the movie's examination of "good of the many versus good of the few" when Bloom was asked to kill the king...

It's a different film. It's a proper epic

AndreLeGeant posted...

Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut is an excellent film albeit too influenced by the War on Terror

It's better than the nonsense that is the theatrical cut, but it still has a lot of problems. Most notably an absurdly underqualified Gary Stu protagonist and the entirety of the film views the crusades and holy land through 20th century morality so everyone talks like they are people from America in 2002 or whenever film came out, which of course makes the crusaders blatantly evil. Some real super villain lair scenes in the film.

s0nicfan posted...

George Lucas?

I don't actually think any are bad. Just classic and more like "okay"

Also, he kinda slowly got worse. Ridley Scott has always been all over.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Woody Allen

I never understood the appeal. I don't even like Annie Hall. It was no surprise when I learned how awful he is in real life.

Takashi Miike is another good one. Such a great select few films. Such a massive trash catalogue.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Woody Allen

Probably loads of directors if I sat down and thought about it.

I fuckin love most woody Allen movies

DeadBankerDream posted...

It's better than the nonsense that is the theatrical cut, but it still has a lot of problems. Most notably an absurdly underqualified Gary Stu protagonist and the entirety of the film views the crusades and holy land through 20th century morality so everyone talks like they are people from America in 2002 or whenever film came out, which of course makes the crusaders blatantly evil. Some real super villain lair scenes in the film.

The Europeans are less purely evil in the DC but, yes, it isn't remotely accurate to the crusades

You can't have it all Ridley. He put too much on his plate and missed out.