Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXV: Day 85 [smfffc]

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Nanis23
09/10/23 11:16:23 PM
#451:


Still waiting for the round

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Grimlyn
09/10/23 11:34:45 PM
#452:


updated log to the Top 20 so I can run the predixtor

... one thing I have to update last year's script for is now accounting for save + source listings in the database because of all the mogs

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/5/AAeYFbAAE1JP.png

..... I uh..... I don't think I did it right?

oh it's just doing series order huh, lemme check the actual simulations to see how that happened

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redrocket
09/10/23 11:36:27 PM
#453:


Montblanc should be FFTA

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Grimlyn
09/10/23 11:41:39 PM
#454:


well looking at the first simulation it's clear what the problem is - not enough people are being used to save for some reason, so when there's not enough saves to continue the round just ends and boots out the top contestant

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/6/3/AAeYFbAAE1JX.jpg

strange though, the pool of savers is decided at the top of the round based on attendance rates, and the rates I saw were definitely normal so there shouldn't be this much people missing

redrocket posted...
Montblanc should be FFTA
eh I don't really bother dividing as deep as lefty there

like we don't split Paine out of the FFX group so I just leave FFT+A and FFCC branches combined as their spin-off reps, they aren't big enough to separate

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mnk
09/10/23 11:47:06 PM
#455:


bot likes me.

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Grimlyn
09/10/23 11:58:20 PM
#456:


i figured out it's limited to accounts who did not have priorities last year because i didn't generalize one part of a sql query

last year mnk was mnkboy907

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Chaeix
09/11/23 12:02:13 AM
#457:


mnk posted...
bot likes me.
you saved a lot of people tomorrow

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 12:18:08 AM
#458:


alright bot predix looks fixed up, here is the first on the Top 20 that hopefully is valid

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/5/AAeYFbAAE1Jj.png

Full Simulation: https://savemy.app/predix-xxv-top20.html

Based on historical save priorities and attendance rates up through Day 80, with arrival times & savings speeds starting from Day 11

obviously priorities based on saving history right now results in things like me saving Sephiroth because of Martin's old deal before switching me to Tifa, and Martin isn't even saving Celes for me because he's only been doing that for like 2 rounds by bot's current records so the simulation doesn't understand recently adjusted trades well

Comparing reality:
  • Day 81: Seymour (still alive) - real ded Quina, predicted #15
  • Day 82: Ghido (still alive) - real ded Montblanc, predicted #3
  • Day 83: Delita (still alive) - real ded Moggle Mog, predicted #5
  • Day 84: Emet (still alive) - real ded Jessie, predicted #8
  • Day 85: Red XIII (still alive) - real ded Sephiroth, predicted #4
so uhhhh pretty bad job so far! Quina not too off at least

but hey while I'm reactivating old scripts here's the start times graph to Day 80
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/2/AAeYFbAAE1J0.jpg

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Chaeix
09/11/23 1:15:25 AM
#459:


wow the bot really believed in montblanc

what a friend

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mnk
09/11/23 1:37:55 AM
#460:


Bot is just rubbing salt in the wound by putting Celes in second.

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Mewtwo59
09/11/23 2:13:44 AM
#461:


mnk posted...
Bot is just rubbing salt in the wound by putting Celes in second.

The bot's just doing what the bot knows best.

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andylt
09/11/23 11:05:40 AM
#462:


I suppose I will try one last time.

Looking for a Ghido trade, either H1 or H2 is fine. Already getting Locke.

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 11:07:29 AM
#463:


Mewtwo59 posted...
The bot's just doing what the bot knows best.
bot sees Celes in a finals and goes "oh i know where this one goes"

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th3l3fty
09/11/23 11:38:17 AM
#464:


andylt posted...
I suppose I will try one last time.

Looking for a Ghido trade, either H1 or H2 is fine. Already getting Locke.

h2 for Cecil imo

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th3l3fty
09/11/23 11:41:34 AM
#465:


Grimlyn posted...
eh I don't really bother dividing as deep as lefty there

like we don't split Paine out of the FFX group so I just leave FFT+A and FFCC branches combined as their spin-off reps, they aren't big enough to separate

FFTA1+2 has as many entrants as FF3 (5) and more than FF11 (3)

I'm pretty sure they were already split back in the raytan era anyway

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andylt
09/11/23 12:07:52 PM
#466:


th3l3fty posted...
h2 for Cecil imo
happily!

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 12:08:51 PM
#467:


full-contest maybe but there's like one time there has ever been more than 1 character so it always just ends up tacking on one more line break for an island entry

3 & 11 are at least numbered mainline entries, they can't hitch on to anything else like a spin-off's indirect sequel can. the real comparison question is how many FF7 Compilation or X-2 characters there are. At least X-2 I'm pretty sure beats out FFTA

(not that I'm against splitting them or anything, it just wasn't worth the effort - CidR & Montblanc came after I started)

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Leonhart4
09/11/23 12:16:56 PM
#468:


We haven't had an 11 character in the contest in like a decade

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LiquidOshawott
09/11/23 12:21:29 PM
#469:


Do XI players still exist?

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andylt
09/11/23 12:23:29 PM
#470:


I think Nick plays it?

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 12:24:15 PM
#471:


and Shantotto isn't even actually like a prominent character in the game *shrug*

well

more than Nanaa Mihgo who's a pretty insignificant NPC... I guess you could call her the Thief jobmaster but job quests aren't really a thing like in XIV

she is cool tho, and I would assume her SMFFFC debut is before the expansions that introduce actual good characters & stories

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 12:27:03 PM
#472:


I actually really like Nanaa Mihgo's mom, Romaa Mihgo who is a main character to the Wings of the Goddess Windurst story quests

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FFDragon
09/11/23 12:28:01 PM
#473:


What's worse

no vowels or random double vowels

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Arti
09/11/23 12:28:58 PM
#474:


I really would like to know why the bot thinks I would save Squall when I have never saved a FFVIII character ever

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LiquidOshawott
09/11/23 12:29:47 PM
#475:


Nanaa Mihgo is spelled Nahaa Mihgo in the VIII and IX contests

is it pretty raytan to just have misspelled characters in the contest?

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 12:30:50 PM
#476:


what about the mithran Hanaa Punaa

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FFDragon
09/11/23 12:31:42 PM
#477:


Grimlyn posted...
what about the mithran Hanaa Punaa

What a wonderful phrase

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Grimlyn
09/11/23 12:38:50 PM
#478:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/0/AAeYFbAAE1OA.jpg

Arti posted...
I really would like to know why the bot thinks I would save Squall when I have never saved a FFVIII character ever

I would imagine you ran out of alive priorities remaining so bot just made you pick a random character remaining

in the full-version simulations you can assign Save priorities as well as Antivote priorities, so if there's no positive priorities left you'll run down the anti-votes reverse priority. Alternatively if you forgo ranking characters you don't care about, bot will randomly choose between them before your antivotes priorities\

since bot's just running off of historical voting, everything is just assigned as positive priorities, so you must've ran out.

here are your recorded priorities:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/1/AAeYFbAAE1OB.png

... so if Ghido, Mog, Locke, Vanille are unavailable, you start going random

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Leonhart4
09/11/23 12:38:54 PM
#479:


Arti posted...
I really would like to know why the bot thinks I would save Squall when I have never saved a FFVIII character ever

Don't question the bot

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Chaeix
09/11/23 12:52:04 PM
#480:


FFDragon posted...
What's worse

no vowels or random double vowels
what about double consonants

we were robbed of jokes about Shantoto blessing the rains in africa

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Leonhart4
09/11/23 12:59:51 PM
#481:


The worst is WotL's purple prose

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