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BakonBitz 09/15/23 11:14:26 AM #51:	Revelation34 posted... I fixed that for you. Good thing Remake wasn't a bad game. It just had a weird ending. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976085012] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>I fixed that for you.</quote>Good thing Remake wasn't a bad game. It just had a weird ending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garlands_Soul 09/15/23 11:17:42 AM #52:	I already know I'm not gonna like it. Square hasn't written a good game since 9. It's just going to be more nonsense that undercuts its own themes, long corridors with the worst dialogue you've ever heard, and then fight God at the end again even though there's still 1/3 of the game left --- "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" <cite>Garlands_Soul posted [p:976085066] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>I already know I'm not gonna like it. Square hasn't written a good game since 9. It's just going to be more nonsense that undercuts its own themes, long corridors with the worst dialogue you've ever heard, and then fight God at the end again even though there's still 1/3 of the game left </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/15/23 11:22:20 AM #53:	Revelation34 posted... I fixed that for you. Too bad for you the remake was good --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976085151] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>I fixed that for you.</quote>Too bad for you the remake was good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 09/15/23 11:23:11 AM #54:	Xenogears15 posted... Why can't y'all just accept this as its own thing? Because it isn't it's own thing. It's entire premise is reliant on 1) knowing the original, and 2) "fixing" the original. The story isn't its own thing, it's a long winded excuse to write away all the consequences and major story beats of the original, in order to give a "happier" ending. And that kind of storytelling is intrinsically lame. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976085167] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Why can't y'all just accept this as its own thing?</quote>Because it isn't it's own thing. It's entire premise is reliant on 1) knowing the original, and 2) "fixing" the original.The story isn't its own thing, it's a long winded excuse to write away all the consequences and major story beats of the original, in order to give a "happier" ending. And that kind of storytelling is intrinsically lame. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 09/15/23 11:26:50 AM #55:	Xenogears15 posted... Why can't people just enjoy things? The only thing I found bad about Remake was the last 15 minutes or so (okay, the "ghosts" were a little sus, but I felt they were sufficiently explained lore-wise). Everything else was good-to-stellar. Hell, I feel most of Remake was better than the original, even. Now I feel people are complaing too much about a game just because it isn't like they remember in their childhood memories. Why can't y'all just accept this as its own thing? Blame it on SE for calling the game Final Fantasy 7 Remake when it's not. If they called it Final Fantasy 7 Remix, no one would be complaining. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:976085241] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Why can't people just enjoy things?The only thing I found bad about Remake was the last 15 minutes or so (okay, the "ghosts" were a little sus, but I felt they were sufficiently explained lore-wise). Everything else was good-to-stellar. Hell, I feel most of Remake was better than the original, even.Now I feel people are complaing too much about a game just because it isn't like they remember in their childhood memories. Why can't y'all just accept this as its own thing?</quote>Blame it on SE for calling the game Final Fantasy 7 Remake when it's not. If they called it Final Fantasy 7 Remix, no one would be complaining. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/15/23 11:30:00 AM #56:	Cobra1010 posted... Blame it on SE for calling the game Final Fantasy 7 Remake when it's not. If they called it Final Fantasy 7 Remix, no one would be complaining. You realize that the word Remake has other meanings right? --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976085292] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted... </cite><quote>Blame it on SE for calling the game Final Fantasy 7 Remake when it's not. If they called it Final Fantasy 7 Remix, no one would be complaining.</quote>You realize that the word Remake has other meanings right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 09/15/23 11:30:17 AM #57:	Cobra1010 posted... Blame it on SE for calling the game Final Fantasy 7 Remake when it's not. If they called it Final Fantasy 7 Remix, no one would be complaining. I'll be honest, I always found it weird pre-release that they were just straight up calling it Remake when it was only covering the Midgar section. Nothing in the title that would show it's part 1 of a series. They were being coy in some details too, like teasing Sephiroth with a black feather, something he wasn't associated with until Advent Children, IIRC. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976085298] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Cobra1010 posted... </cite><quote>Blame it on SE for calling the game Final Fantasy 7 Remake when it's not. If they called it Final Fantasy 7 Remix, no one would be complaining.</quote>I'll be honest, I always found it weird pre-release that they were just straight up calling it Remake when it was only covering the Midgar section. Nothing in the title that would show it's part 1 of a series. They were being coy in some details too, like teasing Sephiroth with a black feather, something he wasn't associated with until Advent Children, IIRC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 09/15/23 11:32:29 AM #58:	Baha05 posted... You realize that the word Remake has other meanings right? And you realize that people had been asking for a traditional remake for years, the game was sold and marketed as a traditional remake, and it wasn't until getting a considerable way through that it became clear that that isn't what it was. SE knew exactly what they were doing. And to pretend otherwise is silly. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976085346] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted... </cite><quote>You realize that the word Remake has other meanings right?</quote>And you realize that people had been asking for a traditional remake for years, the game was sold and marketed as a traditional remake, and it wasn't until getting a considerable way through that it became clear that that isn't what it was.SE knew exactly what they were doing. And to pretend otherwise is silly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 09/15/23 11:47:13 AM #59:	BakonBitz posted... I'll be honest, I always found it weird pre-release that they were just straight up calling it Remake when it was only covering the Midgar section. Nothing in the title that would show it's part 1 of a series. They were being coy in some details too, like teasing Sephiroth with a black feather, something he wasn't associated with until Advent Children, IIRC. Not to mention the demo they gave out was the first reactor mission up to the scorpion boss. Pretty much the only faithful part because at the end they changed it to shinra themselves destroying the reactor which is quite significant. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:976085619] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>I'll be honest, I always found it weird pre-release that they were just straight up calling it Remake when it was only covering the Midgar section. Nothing in the title that would show it's part 1 of a series. They were being coy in some details too, like teasing Sephiroth with a black feather, something he wasn't associated with until Advent Children, IIRC.</quote>Not to mention the demo they gave out was the first reactor mission up to the scorpion boss. Pretty much the only faithful part because at the end they changed it to shinra themselves destroying the reactor which is quite significant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/15/23 12:59:22 PM #60:	Baha05 posted... You realize that the word Remake has other meanings right? Citation needed. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:976087043] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted...</cite><quote>You realize that the word Remake has other meanings right?</quote>Citation needed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/15/23 1:06:05 PM #61:	DarkBuster22904 posted... And you realize that people had been asking for a traditional remake for years, the game was sold and marketed as a traditional remake, and it wasn't until getting a considerable way through that it became clear that that isn't what it was. SE knew exactly what they were doing. And to pretend otherwise is silly. Spoilers since I doubt they teach you in mod school about a lot of things but there really is no such thing as traditional remakes. Plus development on games can fundamentally change over the years and we knew well in advanced that it wasnt going to be a 1:1 remake. And it doesnt even change my point, hell the fact remakes dont have to follow 1:1 standards should be pretty well known in media in general. Revelation34 posted... Citation needed. Its called the dictionary, look it up. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976087194] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>And you realize that people had been asking for a traditional remake for years, the game was sold and marketed as a traditional remake, and it wasn't until getting a considerable way through that it became clear that that isn't what it was.SE knew exactly what they were doing. And to pretend otherwise is silly.</quote>Spoilers since I doubt they teach you in mod school about a lot of things but there really is no such thing as traditional remakes.Plus development on games can fundamentally change over the years and we knew well in advanced that it wasnt going to be a 1:1 remake. And it doesnt even change my point, hell the fact remakes dont have to follow 1:1 standards should be pretty well known in media in general.Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Citation needed.</quote>Its called the dictionary, look it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/15/23 1:07:08 PM #62:	Baha05 posted... Its called the dictionary, look it up. That's ironic coming from somebody who just literally ignored the dictionary because you didn't like the definition. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:976087218] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted...</cite><quote>Its called the dictionary, look it up.</quote>That's ironic coming from somebody who just literally ignored the dictionary because you didn't like the definition. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/15/23 1:08:12 PM #63:	Revelation34 posted... That's ironic coming from somebody who just literally ignored the dictionary because you didn't like the definition. remake verb /rmk/ make (something) again or differently. "the bed would be more comfortable if it were remade" noun /rmk/ a movie or piece of music that has been filmed or recorded again and rereleased. "a remake of the classic horror tale, Frankenstein" Literally the first thing on Google when you look up the word. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976087244] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>That's ironic coming from somebody who just literally ignored the dictionary because you didn't like the definition.</quote>remakeverb/rmk/make (something) again or differently."the bed would be more comfortable if it were remade"noun/rmk/a movie or piece of music that has been filmed or recorded again and rereleased."a remake of the classic horror tale, Frankenstein"Literally the first thing on Google when you look up the word. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 09/15/23 1:10:16 PM #64:	DarkBuster22904 posted... You aren't wrong. This whole remake project is just one long, winding, long winded excuse for Nomura to Nomura it up all over the plot just so he can retcon (og ff7 spoilers) ~~Aerith's death.~~ Make no mistake, that is the sole purpose of this new story. One of the singularly most iconic and recognized powerful story beats in early gaming, thrown out the window because Nomura can't fucking help himself and cannot let a ~~death~~ stick.. It's literally EXACTLY kingdom hearts all over again. Square needs to hire someone to just stand next to the man with a rolled up newspaper, and smack him with it every time he decides to write something. Why are you blaming Nomura? Nomura didnt write the story he just directed the game. Hell he didnt want to be the director Square surprised him with the position. Also Nomura isnt even directing Rebirth. In OG FF7 Nomura was responsible for Aeriths death. --- Useless "Captain" Mid <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:976087277] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>You aren't wrong.This whole remake project is just one long, winding, long winded excuse for Nomura to Nomura it up all over the plot just so he can retcon (og ff7 spoilers) Aerith's death. Make no mistake, that is the sole purpose of this new story.One of the singularly most iconic and recognized powerful story beats in early gaming, thrown out the window because Nomura can't fucking help himself and cannot let a death stick.. It's literally EXACTLY kingdom hearts all over again. Square needs to hire someone to just stand next to the man with a rolled up newspaper, and smack him with it every time he decides to write something.</quote>Why are you blaming Nomura?Nomura didnt write the story he just directed the game. Hell he didnt want to be the director Square surprised him with the position. Also Nomura isnt even directing Rebirth.In OG FF7 Nomura was responsible for Aeriths death. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 09/15/23 1:12:34 PM #65:	ViewtifulGrave posted... In OG FF7 Nomura was responsible for Aeriths death. More specifically, he's the one that pushed against the idea that half of the characters would just straight up get killed off in the Midgar revisit. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976087326] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted... </cite><quote>In OG FF7 Nomura was responsible for Aeriths death.</quote>More specifically, he's the one that pushed against the idea that half of the characters would just straight up get killed off in the Midgar revisit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/15/23 1:14:09 PM #66:	BakonBitz posted... I'll be honest, I always found it weird pre-release that they were just straight up calling it Remake when it was only covering the Midgar section. Nothing in the title that would show it's part 1 of a series. They were being coy in some details too, like teasing Sephiroth with a black feather, something he wasn't associated with until Advent Children, IIRC. They were upfront that the plot of the game would incorporate all of the auxiliary material published since the original game including stuff like CC and DoC. Putting black feathers in FF7 Remake isn't really different than putting Hayden Christiansen in Return of the Jedi. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976087355] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>I'll be honest, I always found it weird pre-release that they were just straight up calling it Remake when it was only covering the Midgar section. Nothing in the title that would show it's part 1 of a series. They were being coy in some details too, like teasing Sephiroth with a black feather, something he wasn't associated with until Advent Children, IIRC.</quote>They were upfront that the plot of the game would incorporate all of the auxiliary material published since the original game including stuff like CC and DoC. Putting black feathers in FF7 Remake isn't really different than putting Hayden Christiansen in Return of the Jedi. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 09/15/23 1:16:52 PM #67:	BakonBitz posted... More specifically, he's the one that pushed against the idea that half of the characters would just straight up get killed off in the Midgar revisit. Yup. I just dont get the blind hate for Nomura. Especially when hes the one thats been FF7 on track. --- Useless "Captain" Mid <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:976087403] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>More specifically, he's the one that pushed against the idea that half of the characters would just straight up get killed off in the Midgar revisit.</quote>Yup.I just dont get the blind hate for Nomura. Especially when hes the one thats been FF7 on track. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/15/23 1:19:25 PM #68:	ViewtifulGrave posted... Why are you blaming Nomura? Nomura didnt write the story he just directed the game. Hell he didnt want to be the director Square surprised him with the position. Also Nomura isnt even directing Rebirth. In OG FF7 Nomura was responsible for Aeriths death. Because its easier to blame the more popular name. Kinda like they give shit Miyamoto for the Mario Mandate when Sticker Star and Color Splash werent well received --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976087463] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>ViewtifulGrave posted... </cite><quote>Why are you blaming Nomura?Nomura didnt write the story he just directed the game. Hell he didnt want to be the director Square surprised him with the position. Also Nomura isnt even directing Rebirth.In OG FF7 Nomura was responsible for Aeriths death.</quote>Because its easier to blame the more popular name. Kinda like they give shit Miyamoto for the Mario Mandate when Sticker Star and Color Splash werent well received </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/15/23 1:26:23 PM #69:	Baha05 posted... Because its easier to blame the more popular name. Kinda like they give shit Miyamoto for the Mario Mandate when Sticker Star and Color Splash werent well received Miyamoto deserves shit for sticker star. I get that the dev team didn't have to listen to him and that they voluntarily chose to do it out of professional respect but at the end of the day the dumb ass idea originated with him. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:976087620] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted... </cite><quote>Because its easier to blame the more popular name. Kinda like they give shit Miyamoto for the Mario Mandate when Sticker Star and Color Splash werent well received</quote>Miyamoto deserves shit for sticker star. I get that the dev team didn't have to listen to him and that they voluntarily chose to do it out of professional respect but at the end of the day the dumb ass idea originated with him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/15/23 1:41:38 PM #70:	Tyranthraxus posted... Miyamoto deserves shit for sticker star. I get that the dev team didn't have to listen to him and that they voluntarily chose to do it out of professional respect but at the end of the day the dumb ass idea originated with him. Except he doesnt because again the developers could have not listened to him or you know still listened to characters and still worked around that. You can make great games with limited characters. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976088009] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Miyamoto deserves shit for sticker star. I get that the dev team didn't have to listen to him and that they voluntarily chose to do it out of professional respect but at the end of the day the dumb ass idea originated with him.</quote>Except he doesnt because again the developers could have not listened to him or you know still listened to characters and still worked around that. You can make great games with limited characters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulGrave 09/15/23 7:26:56 PM #71:	Tyranthraxus posted... Miyamoto deserves shit for sticker star. I get that the dev team didn't have to listen to him and that they voluntarily chose to do it out of professional respect but at the end of the day the dumb ass idea originated with him. Im glad Koizumi doesnt listen to Miyamoto. --- Useless "Captain" Mid <cite>ViewtifulGrave posted [p:976094954] in something ... [t:80565979]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Miyamoto deserves shit for sticker star. I get that the dev team didn't have to listen to him and that they voluntarily chose to do it out of professional respect but at the end of the day the dumb ass idea originated with him.</quote>Im glad Koizumi doesnt listen to Miyamoto. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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