Current Events > Bully Dogs to be banned in UK by end of year.

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might as well as ban all large dog breeds. Pitbull attacks are overly presented in the media. If a German shepherd attacks a person it doesn't make the headlines.

What % of dog attacks are by German shepards compared to bulls?

The point of #101 is to prove #100 bullshit.

What % of dog attacks are by German shepards compared to bulls?

From someone in the uk it is disturbing the amount of news being dedicated to dog attacks at the moment though.

German shepherds and pit bull-types both make up about 6% of the dog population each.

German shepherds causs exponentially less deaths every year.

you also have to consider that not all dog attacks are reported

you also have to consider that not all dog attacks are reported

Hes not wrong. Just not for the reason he thinks hes right. No dog attacks made the news in the uk until this recent obsession with it.

So the dangerous dog act of 1991 was passed for no reason?

What? should people have to have license before they can adopt an animal? They have to prove that they the training and resources necessary to care for animal properly? so people can no longer take in a stray dog/cat to raise as their own?

German shepherds and pit bull-types both make up about 6% of the dog population each.

German shepherds causs exponentially less deaths every year.

any dog can be bred/trained to be overly aggressive. it doesn't mean to ban them. What? should people have to have license before they can adopt an animal? They have to prove that they the training and resources necessary to care for animal properly? so people can no longer take in a stray dog/cat to raise as their own?

There's no way to determine the exact total population for any breed as popular as GSDs and Bull breeds. That 6 percent is definitely not true though, GSDs and Bull breeds are among the most common in the states, especially in the cities.

guess I need an exotic pets license to own a reptile so that way the pet store cashier doesn't think I'm unfit to care for it!
guess I need an exotic pets license so that way cashiers know that I know not to release a non-native animal to the wild if I no longer want the animal!

hahaha! I have a piece of paper that shows I won't willingly release a gold fish , rabbit, or iguana into the wild!

any dog can be bred/trained to be overly aggressive. it doesn't mean to ban them. What? should people have to have license before they can adopt an animal? They have to prove that they the training and resources necessary to care for animal properly? so people can no longer take in a stray dog/cat to raise as their own?

so you just move from point to point hoping youll finally find something that sticks lol? How about responding to some of the other posts responding to you.

He's just moved to "Laws are stupid and pointless."

So I take it that you agree with BerevenRabbit that non-pit bull attacks are much more likely to never be reported to the authorities? And what else? That there are actually so many more pit bulls that it's equal to German shepherds per capita

It doesn't fucking matter if any dog can be bred to do that. Pit bull-types have already been ruined, so eliminate them and strictly regulate dog breeding so that there isn't any widespread ownership of dogs bred to be super aggressive.

we could get rid of the horrors of breeding pugs, boston terriers, etc. and get them back to the way they were 75 years ago.

Here's the thing, you can accomplish that goal without breed bans by enforcing laws that are already in place. Enforce leash laws, require proper containment of animals, and dogs that aren't part of a responsible breeding program should be spayed/neutered is a start.

Breed bans are ineffective at stopping dog attacks, it's like chasing the moon, you aren't going to get there. At that point you might as well only allow Yorkshire Terriers.

what do you do with the current dogs?

Make sure they're spayed and neutered.

some people are suggesting existing bulls get killed. Im not for that.

It's not about stopping dog attacks. It's about stopping the most dangerous and frequent dog attacks. I know full well that completely eliminating bad things is a pipe dream. We can regulate breeding to breed out traits.

I think we need to revisit what we consider "responsible" breeding given that sickly dog breeds exist for no good reason other then "people want them and think they're cute".

Reminder that this is what you kill for cheeseburgers

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/3/AANJzyAAE2CZ.jpg

You do that by putting the onus on owners. It is their responsibility to properly manage and contain their animals. It also takes common sense to know what kind of dog you are getting and just saying no. The worst thing you can do is get a breed and not have the ability to accommodate it or understand the kind of drive that it has. I'm a very experienced owner, I know with my lifestyle I can't handle a Belgian Malinois (one of the most hardcore, high drive working breed around), but the average inexperienced owner would get one and be way over their heads with a potential nightmare on their hands.

Responsible in the sense that the parents are temperament tested, titled either in show and/or working, tested for genetic defects, CGC (canine good citizen), etc. Not breeding for exaggerated features is also important.

This is what a responsible breeder looks like
https://bartinkennel.com/emma/

You make a lot of sense but there are still, in the uk at least, a lot of people who breed purely because it makes good money. They dont give a fuck who buys the dogs or where they go to.

Listen to this

https://youtube.com/shorts/_S8MVTlgm0c?si=dZ-Hkiyp-_oZHgWY

Actual working American Pit Bull Terriers (not the curs people like to say are Pit Bulls based on appearance) are very trainable, they they want to work. Because of their bull and terrier ancestry they are animal aggressive, but should never be human aggressive, the two are completely different traits. Where people get into trouble is again where I mentioned that a lot of folks get a dog they can't handle and don't properly socialize. I know my lifestyle can't accommodate certain breeds, but a lot of people are ignorant.

It wouldn't hurt to breed dogs so that owner ignorance isn't such an issue. We need to somehow control that issue if licenses aren't the answer. We can't just hope that all dog owners realize their limitations.

This is the main problem, breeding for profit and fads. Ethical breeders tend to barely break even after medical testing, shows, testing for congenital disorders, etc. I know pocket bully breeders that sell deformed puppies for thousands of dollars a pop.

Classic European authoritarian socialism. OI! YEW CONT DEW THAT! IN THE NAME OF SAFETY INNIT!