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EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:08:43 PM #51:	Irony posted... Idc Ironic post by irony. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976133744] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Idc</quote>Ironic post by irony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solution_45 09/17/23 5:15:14 PM #52:	a completely optional mod caused this much of a stink lol <cite>Solution_45 posted [p:976133904] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>a completely optional mod caused this much of a stinklol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:17:05 PM #53:	Solution_45 posted... a completely optional mod caused this much of a stink lol If you had to make it a thing to constantly battle against people that deny your existence, you might understand it a little better. Like bullying, harassment. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976133951] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Solution_45 posted... </cite><quote>a completely optional mod caused this much of a stinklol</quote>If you had to make it a thing to constantly battle against people that deny your existence, you might understand it a little better. Like bullying, harassment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/17/23 5:17:35 PM #54:	Solution_45 posted... a completely optional mod caused this much of a stink lol Asking if people used he or she pronouns caused more of a stink. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976133966] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Solution_45 posted... </cite><quote>a completely optional mod caused this much of a stinklol</quote>Asking if people used he or she pronouns caused more of a stink. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:18:30 PM #56:	Solution_45 posted... a completely optional mod caused this much of a stink lol Yeah, pretty sad that there are pathetic crybabies deleting gendered pronouns from their games because queer people make them cry. I hope no one is ever tricked in to viewing conservatives as tough guys ever again. They're softer than Charmin. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976133988] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Solution_45 posted... </cite><quote>a completely optional mod caused this much of a stinklol</quote>Yeah, pretty sad that there are pathetic crybabies deleting gendered pronouns from their games because queer people make them cry. I hope no one is ever tricked in to viewing conservatives as tough guys ever again. They're softer than Charmin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:18:37 PM #57:	creativerealms posted... Asking if people used he or she pronouns caused more of a stink. Don't talk about the how censorship through modding was a thing, because of pronouns. It's not being thin skinned. It's being TOUGH! <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976133990] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Asking if people used he or she pronouns caused more of a stink.</quote>Don't talk about the how censorship through modding was a thing, because of pronouns. It's not being thin skinned. It's being TOUGH!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExistentialFear 09/17/23 5:24:04 PM #58:	The mod would not have got any attention if people didn't blow it up on reddit and twitter. Just like the white Wyll mod for Baldur's Gate 3. I wish people would realize that. That Hogwarts game wouldn't have been so successful if it wasn't for all the people buying it just because of the outrage. But now you get people who see this and go "I don't understand what the problem is" which creates arguments that drive these people even further into a direction we don't want them to go. Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple. The key to winning is to not give them any attention. <cite>ExistentialFear posted [p:976134119] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>The mod would not have got any attention if people didn't blow it up on reddit and twitter. Just like the white Wyll mod for Baldur's Gate 3. I wish people would realize that. That Hogwarts game wouldn't have been so successful if it wasn't for all the people buying it just because of the outrage. But now you get people who see this and go "I don't understand what the problem is" which creates arguments that drive these people even further into a direction we don't want them to go. Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple.The key to winning is to not give them any attention. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 09/17/23 5:25:38 PM #59:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Pretty sure the guy you're responding to is fine with that. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:976134152] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Pretty sure the guy you're responding to is fine with that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 09/17/23 5:26:45 PM #60:	ExistentialFear posted... The mod would not have got any attention if people didn't blow it up on reddit and twitter. Just like the white Wyll mod for Baldur's Gate 3. I wish people would realize that. That Hogwarts game wouldn't have been so successful if it wasn't for all the people buying it just because of the outrage. But now you get people who see this and go "I don't understand what the problem is" which creates arguments that drive these people even further into a direction we don't want them to go. Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple. The key to winning is to not give them any attention. Nah, fuck that shit. All the white washing racist mods for Bioware games and Larians should be called out and banned. Giving space for bigots to foster and spread their hatred only let's them ruin and taint all they touch. --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:976134178] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>ExistentialFear posted... </cite><quote>The mod would not have got any attention if people didn't blow it up on reddit and twitter. Just like the white Wyll mod for Baldur's Gate 3. I wish people would realize that. That Hogwarts game wouldn't have been so successful if it wasn't for all the people buying it just because of the outrage. But now you get people who see this and go "I don't understand what the problem is" which creates arguments that drive these people even further into a direction we don't want them to go. Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple.The key to winning is to not give them any attention.</quote>Nah, fuck that shit.All the white washing racist mods for Bioware games and Larians should be called out and banned.Giving space for bigots to foster and spread their hatred only let's them ruin and taint all they touch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/17/23 5:28:36 PM #61:	ExistentialFear posted... The mod would not have got any attention if people didn't blow it up on reddit and twitter. Just like the white Wyll mod for Baldur's Gate 3. I wish people would realize that. That Hogwarts game wouldn't have been so successful if it wasn't for all the people buying it just because of the outrage. But now you get people who see this and go "I don't understand what the problem is" which creates arguments that drive these people even further into a direction we don't want them to go. Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple. The key to winning is to not give them any attention. It's a double edged sword. Ignoring it might as well be endorsement while making a big deal about it gives it attention. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976134219] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>ExistentialFear posted... </cite><quote>The mod would not have got any attention if people didn't blow it up on reddit and twitter. Just like the white Wyll mod for Baldur's Gate 3. I wish people would realize that. That Hogwarts game wouldn't have been so successful if it wasn't for all the people buying it just because of the outrage. But now you get people who see this and go "I don't understand what the problem is" which creates arguments that drive these people even further into a direction we don't want them to go. Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple.The key to winning is to not give them any attention.</quote>It's a double edged sword. Ignoring it might as well be endorsement while making a big deal about it gives it attention. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:29:41 PM #62:	Funkydog posted... All the white washing racist mods for Bioware games and Larians should be called out and banned. If it's done for racist reasons, sure.. then yeah. I can see you're point. Changing the color of someone isn't innately racist. As a white dude, I prefer Latina girls. Can see myself making a tan girl toon. Not the same, but similar. Doesn't have to be racist innately. Fact. No way will you objectively prove otherwise either. In our zeitgeist, we have bigotry against such people front and center. I wouldn't host you either, even if you didn't mean bad. Not my fault you couldn't read the tone of the room. About pronouns I mean, I for one would worry about their safety and health more than your preferences. Host it somewhere else. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134261] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite><quote>All the white washing racist mods for Bioware games and Larians should be called out and banned.</quote>If it's done for racist reasons, sure.. then yeah. I can see you're point. Changing the color of someone isn't innately racist. As a white dude, I prefer Latina girls. Can see myself making a tan girl toon. Not the same, but similar.Doesn't have to be racist innately. Fact. No way will you objectively prove otherwise either. In our zeitgeist, we have bigotry against such people front and center. I wouldn't host you either, even if you didn't mean bad. Not my fault you couldn't read the tone of the room. About pronouns I mean, I for one would worry about their safety and health more than your preferences. Host it somewhere else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 09/17/23 5:30:36 PM #63:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Does it change his voice acting too? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:976134283] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Does it change his voice acting too? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 09/17/23 5:34:20 PM #64:	Solution_45 posted... a completely optional mod caused this much of a stink lol A simple option to choose your pronouns caused this much of a stink. It takes all of 2 seconds to select what you want and continue on with the game. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:976134384] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Solution_45 posted... </cite><quote>a completely optional mod caused this much of a stinklol</quote>A simple option to choose your pronouns caused this much of a stink. It takes all of 2 seconds to select what you want and continue on with the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 09/17/23 5:34:36 PM #65:	And this is the type of thing people call "wokeness" in gaming. It's a petty mod for emotionally fragile culture warrior conservatives, but there's literally no good reason to ban it beyond being triggered about its existence. It's not like it's some oppressive cheat, it's just a text change. "It's not a 'political statement' or an 'alignment to one side or the other in the culture war'. We stand for diversity and inclusion in our community and the removal of diversity, while appealing to many, does not promote a positive modding community." "It's not a political statement... but it's a political statement." --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976134391] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>And this is the type of thing people call "wokeness" in gaming.It's a petty mod for emotionally fragile culture warrior conservatives, but there's literally no good reason to ban it beyond being triggered about its existence.It's not like it's some oppressive cheat, it's just a text change.<quote>"It's not a 'political statement' or an 'alignment to one side or the other in the culture war'. We stand for diversity and inclusion in our community and the removal of diversity, while appealing to many, does not promote a positive modding community."</quote>"It's not a political statement... but it's a political statement." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 09/17/23 5:34:53 PM #66:	creativerealms posted... I know its just the pronoun option they are removing but I would love to see a mod that removes every single pronoun from the game. It would make the game incomprehensible. These people don't realise just how intertwined pronouns are with the human language. Its why this pronoun outrage is the dumbest thing ever. This is the type of chaos I'm down for. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:976134398] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted...</cite><quote>I know its just the pronoun option they are removing but I would love to see a mod that removes every single pronoun from the game. It would make the game incomprehensible. These people don't realise just how intertwined pronouns are with the human language. Its why this pronoun outrage is the dumbest thing ever.</quote>This is the type of chaos I'm down for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/17/23 5:35:24 PM #67:	Inohira posted... And this is the type of thing people call "wokeness" in gaming. It's a petty mod for emotionally fragile culture warrior conservatives, but there's literally no good reason to ban it beyond being triggered about its existence. It's not like it's some oppressive cheat, it's just a text change. "It's not a political statement... but it's a political statement." Cry more, chud. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976134413] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>And this is the type of thing people call "wokeness" in gaming.It's a petty mod for emotionally fragile culture warrior conservatives, but there's literally no good reason to ban it beyond being triggered about its existence.It's not like it's some oppressive cheat, it's just a text change."It's not a political statement... but it's a political statement."</quote>Cry more, chud. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 09/17/23 5:36:06 PM #68:	EthanSilver posted... If it's done for racist reasons, or making a thing... then yeah. I can see you're point. Changing to color of someone isn't innately racist. As a white dude, I prefer Latina girls. Can see myself making a tan girl toon. Not the same, but similar. Doesn't have to be racist innately. Fact. No way will you objectively prove otherwise either. Changing Isabela from black to white is racist. Changing Vivienne from black to white is racist. Changing Wyll from black to white is racist. These are just facts and pretending it's just about you wanting 'Latina' girls is such rot. If you can't see the obvious racism in turning the black people white then I'm not sure anyone is capable of helping you. --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:976134431] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>If it's done for racist reasons, or making a thing... then yeah. I can see you're point. Changing to color of someone isn't innately racist. As a white dude, I prefer Latina girls. Can see myself making a tan girl toon. Not the same, but similar.Doesn't have to be racist innately. Fact. No way will you objectively prove otherwise either.</quote>Changing Isabela from black to white is racist.Changing Vivienne from black to white is racist.Changing Wyll from black to white is racist.These are just facts and pretending it's just about you wanting 'Latina' girls is such rot. If you can't see the obvious racism in turning the black people white then I'm not sure anyone is capable of helping you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:36:13 PM #69:	ExistentialFear posted... Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple. Well then most humans are irreparably stupid and my enemies. Fuck this coddling bullshit. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134436] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>ExistentialFear posted... </cite><quote>Yall are creating your own enemies. People are naturally inclined to side against the loud obnoxious complainers. It doesn't matter if you're in the right or wrong. Humans are just that simple.</quote>Well then most humans are irreparably stupid and my enemies. Fuck this coddling bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:36:31 PM #70:	Inohira posted... "It's not a political statement... but it's a political statement." Good, imo. More people caring about the health and safety of said people would be a very good thing. Political activism doesn't have to be bad. Sorry if that gets your jimmies in a bunch. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134449] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>"It's not a political statement... but it's a political statement."</quote>Good, imo. More people caring about the health and safety of said people would be a very good thing. Political activism doesn't have to be bad. Sorry if that gets your jimmies in a bunch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:37:15 PM #71:	Funkydog posted... These are just facts and pretending it's just about you wanting 'Latina' girls is such rot. If you can't see the obvious racism in turning the black people white then I'm not sure anyone is capable of helping you. That's not even an argument. Nothing to reply to. "Just is!" <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134475] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite><quote>These are just facts and pretending it's just about you wanting 'Latina' girls is such rot. If you can't see the obvious racism in turning the black people white then I'm not sure anyone is capable of helping you.</quote>That's not even an argument. Nothing to reply to. "Just is!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ferroseed 09/17/23 5:37:37 PM #72:	inohira immediately runs in here screaming about political oppression over a website choosing not to host something lmao <cite>Ferroseed posted [p:976134483] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>inohira immediately runs in here screaming about political oppression over a website choosing not to host something lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 09/17/23 5:38:41 PM #73:	EthanSilver posted... That's not even an argument. Nothing to reply to. "Just is!" Please tell me why having a black person in a game is so horrifying that someone needs to change their skin colour to feel comfortable isn't racism then. --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:976134513] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>That's not even an argument. Nothing to reply to. "Just is!"</quote>Please tell me why having a black person in a game is so horrifying that someone needs to change their skin colour to feel comfortable isn't racism then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:38:47 PM #74:	EthanSilver posted... Changing the color of someone isn't innately racist. As a white dude, I prefer Latina girls. Can see myself making a tan girl toon. Not the same, but similar. Race isn't innate at all, which actually makes the preferences racist. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134517] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>Changing the color of someone isn't innately racist. As a white dude, I prefer Latina girls. Can see myself making a tan girl toon. Not the same, but similar.</quote>Race isn't innate at all, which actually makes the preferences racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:39:26 PM #75:	Ferroseed posted... inohira immediately runs in here screaming about political oppression over a website choosing not to host something lmao Obviously a self centered dude not able to think about others. It's about stuff that bothers them. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134528] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Ferroseed posted... </cite><quote>inohira immediately runs in here screaming about political oppression over a website choosing not to host something lmao</quote>Obviously a self centered dude not able to think about others. It's about stuff that bothers them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
alphagamble 09/17/23 5:39:55 PM #76:	This controversy is so lame compared to real provocative ones like Grounded Commonwealth or the "historically accurate" Hogwarts Legacy mod --- ooh <cite>alphagamble posted [p:976134539] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>This controversy is so lame compared to real provocative ones like Grounded Commonwealth or the "historically accurate" Hogwarts Legacy mod </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:40:02 PM #77:	Funkydog posted... Please tell me why having a black person in a game is so horrifying that someone needs to change their skin colour to feel comfortable isn't racism then. That is racism. I said it would depend on the reason. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134543] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite><quote>Please tell me why having a black person in a game is so horrifying that someone needs to change their skin colour to feel comfortable isn't racism then.</quote>That is racism. I said it would depend on the reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:41:05 PM #78:	hockeybub89 posted... Race isn't innate at all, which actually makes the preferences racist. Not true. Finding a certain tone of skin color personally attractive is not racist. Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134566] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Race isn't innate at all, which actually makes the preferences racist.</quote>Not true. Finding a certain tone of skin color personally attractive is not racist. Racism:prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 09/17/23 5:41:37 PM #79:	I wish I could shit my pants as hard as the anti-woke people do. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:976134581] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>I wish I could shit my pants as hard as the anti-woke people do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 09/17/23 5:41:46 PM #80:	Good. Mods predicated on hatred and bigotry shouldn't be tolerated. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycE7bUq3-2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk <cite>variasuite posted [p:976134582] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Good. Mods predicated on hatred and bigotry shouldn't be tolerated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 09/17/23 5:42:21 PM #82:	Alucard188 posted... I wish I could shit my pants as hard as the anti-woke people do. Well, I'm not here to kink shame. You do what makes you happy. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:976134597] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Alucard188 posted... </cite><quote>I wish I could shit my pants as hard as the anti-woke people do.</quote>Well, I'm not here to kink shame. You do what makes you happy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 09/17/23 5:42:26 PM #83:	Ferroseed posted... inohira immediately runs in here screaming about political oppression over a website choosing not to host something lmao My post doesn't include the word "oppression." I'm calling the decision ideologically charged, not "oppressive." StealThisSheen posted... Cry more, chud. > chud > criticized the creators of the mod in the quoted post Try again. I know you partisans like black and white simplification but it doesn't apply everywhere. There's a difference between supporting something, and simply not thinking it broke any legitimate rules. Troll harder. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976134598] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Ferroseed posted...</cite><quote>inohira immediately runs in here screaming about political oppression over a website choosing not to host something lmao</quote>My post doesn't include the word "oppression." I'm calling the decision ideologically charged, not "oppressive."StealThisSheen posted...</cite><quote>Cry more, chud.</quote>> chud> criticized the creators of the mod in the quoted postTry again. I know you partisans like black and white simplification but it doesn't apply everywhere. There's a difference between supporting something, and simply not thinking it broke any legitimate rules. Troll harder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:43:20 PM #84:	"Millions of peope would stop voting for hateful bigots that want to eradicate LGBTQ people if you all just stopped giving those bigots attention. Humans naturally support whoever is getting yelled at, so it's really kind of your own fault! Why don't LGBTQ people earn support when bigots yell at them? Good question." - Stable geniuses on CE --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134627] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>"Millions of peope would stop voting for hateful bigots that want to eradicate LGBTQ people if you all just stopped giving those bigots attention. Humans naturally support whoever is getting yelled at, so it's really kind of your own fault! Why don't LGBTQ people earn support when bigots yell at them? Good question." - Stable geniuses on CE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/17/23 5:44:17 PM #85:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... Lmao someone actually made this mod? Look up any PC game that has a black guy or gay characters There will be hugely popular mods that make them white and straight --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:976134648] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Fin_Dawg_004 posted... </cite><quote>Lmao someone actually made this mod?</quote>Look up any PC game that has a black guy or gay charactersThere will be hugely popular mods that make them white and straight </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:44:58 PM #86:	Inohira posted... My post doesn't include the word "oppression." I'm calling the decision ideologically charged, not "oppressive." > chud > criticized the creators of the mod in the quoted post Try again. I know you partisans like black and white simplification but it doesn't apply everywhere. There's a difference between supporting something, and simply not thinking it broke any legitimate rules. Troll harder. What the fuck are "legitimate" rules? It's a website. Unless the rules are a crime against humanity, they're legitimate. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134666] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>My post doesn't include the word "oppression." I'm calling the decision ideologically charged, not "oppressive."> chud> criticized the creators of the mod in the quoted postTry again. I know you partisans like black and white simplification but it doesn't apply everywhere. There's a difference between supporting something, and simply not thinking it broke any legitimate rules. Troll harder.</quote>What the fuck are "legitimate" rules? It's a website. Unless the rules are a crime against humanity, they're legitimate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:45:37 PM #87:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Maybe. But even then there can be some wiggle room imo. Especially in stuff like DnD games. Where selecting "races," is very much a part of it. Dwarves, halflings, elves, humans, orcs... and what have you. Again, for me, I'd see it in a case by case basis. On the intent. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134680] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Maybe. But even then there can be some wiggle room imo. Especially in stuff like DnD games. Where selecting "races," is very much a part of it. Dwarves, halflings, elves, humans, orcs... and what have you. Again, for me, I'd see it in a case by case basis. On the intent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 09/17/23 5:45:57 PM #88:	AceMos posted... apparently this mod locked the game to they/them so these idiots made a mod that locks them to NB the very thing they where upset about Amazing if true. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:976134691] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>apparently this mod locked the game to they/themso these idiots made a mod that locks them to NB the very thing they where upset about</quote>Amazing if true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 09/17/23 5:46:15 PM #89:	hockeybub89 posted... Humans naturally support whoever is getting yelled at, That's funny to me, because lol most people understand some people absolutely should be yelled at --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:976134700] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Humans naturally support whoever is getting yelled at,</quote>That's funny to me, because lol most people understand some people absolutely should be yelled at </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:47:18 PM #90:	EthanSilver posted... Not true. Finding a certain tone of skin color personally attractive is not racist. Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. Positive prejudice is still prejudice. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134725] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>Not true. Finding a certain tone of skin color personally attractive is not racist. Racism:prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.</quote>Positive prejudice is still prejudice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:47:33 PM #91:	Ivynn posted... That's funny to me, because lol most people understand some people absolutely should be yelled at True. People can put thought into their criticism. We're all aware of that right? <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134729] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>That's funny to me, because lol most people understand some people absolutely should be yelled at</quote>True. People can put thought into their criticism. We're all aware of that right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
discodancer77 09/17/23 5:47:49 PM #92:	Back to non-political games like Skyrim and Fallout --- Patient Gamer <cite>discodancer77 posted [p:976134734] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Back to non-political games like Skyrim and Fallout </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:49:46 PM #93:	hockeybub89 posted... Positive prejudice is still prejudice. It's in terms of what I personally find attractive. Not an issue. Prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. "*prejudice against* people from different backgrounds" I'm not making a judgment on intelligence, morals, or anything like that... nor am I saying nothing but tan skin can be attractive. Just giving my opinion. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134767] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Positive prejudice is still prejudice.</quote>It's in terms of what I personally find attractive. Not an issue. Prejudice:preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience."prejudice against people from different backgrounds"I'm not making a judgment on intelligence, morals, or anything like that... nor am I saying nothing but tan skin can be attractive. Just giving my opinion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 09/17/23 5:50:38 PM #94:	hockeybub89 posted... What the fuck are "legitimate" rules? It's a website. Unless the rules are a crime against humanity, they're legitimate. By "legitimate" I mean "clearly stated in the terms of service" beforehand, instead of made up on the fly by a butthurt mod. EthanSilver posted... Good, imo. More people caring about the health and safety of said people would be a very good thing. Political activism doesn't have to be bad. Sorry if that gets your jimmies in a bunch. I don't see how this move helps them. It just gets some of the people who otherwise didn't care either way (about pronouns being in the game, or about there being a mod to remove them) annoyed about the obvious ideological favoritism at play. Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976134795] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite><quote>What the fuck are "legitimate" rules? It's a website. Unless the rules are a crime against humanity, they're legitimate.</quote>By "legitimate" I mean "clearly stated in the terms of service" beforehand, instead of made up on the fly by a butthurt mod.EthanSilver posted...</cite><quote>Good, imo. More people caring about the health and safety of said people would be a very good thing. Political activism doesn't have to be bad. Sorry if that gets your jimmies in a bunch. </quote>I don't see how this move helps them. It just gets some of the people who otherwise didn't care either way (about pronouns being in the game, or about there being a mod to remove them) annoyed about the obvious ideological favoritism at play.Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
variasuite 09/17/23 5:52:12 PM #95:	Inohira posted... By "legitimate" I mean "clearly stated in the terms of service" beforehand, instead of made up on the fly by a butthurt mod. I don't see how this move helps them. It just gets some of the people who otherwise didn't care either way (about pronouns being in the game, or about there being a mod to remove them) annoyed about the obvious ideological favoritism at play. Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo. /facedesk --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycE7bUq3-2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kbLwvqugk <cite>variasuite posted [p:976134831] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>By "legitimate" I mean "clearly stated in the terms of service" beforehand, instead of made up on the fly by a butthurt mod.I don't see how this move helps them. It just gets some of the people who otherwise didn't care either way (about pronouns being in the game, or about there being a mod to remove them) annoyed about the obvious ideological favoritism at play.Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo.</quote>/facedesk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:52:30 PM #96:	EthanSilver posted... Maybe. But even then there can be some wiggle room imo. Especially in stuff like DnD games. Where selecting "races," is very much a part of it. Dwarves, halflings, elves, humans, orcs... and what have you. Again, for me, I'd see it in a case by case basis. On the intent. Fantasy races are biologically different though. Hell, Latina isn't even a race! You can be any "race" and be Latina. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134835] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>Maybe. But even then there can be some wiggle room imo. Especially in stuff like DnD games. Where selecting "races," is very much a part of it. Dwarves, halflings, elves, humans, orcs... and what have you. Again, for me, I'd see it in a case by case basis. On the intent.</quote>Fantasy races are biologically different though.Hell, Latina isn't even a race! You can be any "race" and be Latina. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:54:43 PM #97:	Inohira posted... I don't see how this move helps them. Doesn't matter if you do. Normalizing such people, in our zeitgeist, can be a net positive. You think it bothering you will translate into it bothering everybody else. Being self centered might make it hard on you, but do understand not everybody thinks like you do. Inohira posted... Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo. Of course, things revolving around what you personally care about is what would matter. Wouldn't be posting like you are otherwise. Par for course. I'm all for choice too, but also for the well being and safety of said people. To me it's a stupid mod anyway. And one can make exceptions if rational. You can cry about it if you want. Or not cry but continue to be on the defensive about it? Makes sense. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134878] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>I don't see how this move helps them.</quote>Doesn't matter if you do. Normalizing such people, in our zeitgeist, can be a net positive.You think it bothering you will translate into it bothering everybody else. Being self centered might make it hard on you, but do understand not everybody thinks like you do. Inohira posted... </cite><quote>Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo.</quote>Of course, things revolving around what you personally care about is what would matter. Wouldn't be posting like you are otherwise. Par for course. I'm all for choice too, but also for the well being and safety of said people. To me it's a stupid mod anyway. And one can make exceptions if rational. You can cry about it if you want. Or not cry but continue to be on the defensive about it? Makes sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/17/23 5:56:08 PM #98:	Inohira posted... I don't see how this move helps them. It just gets some of the people who otherwise didn't care either way (about pronouns being in the game, or about there being a mod to remove them) annoyed about the obvious ideological favoritism at play. Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo. Anyone who would make that shift was always a dumbass though and them being shown the door is a good thing. We can't go through any fucking topic about LGBTQ discrimination without some enlightened centrist going "No one will ever support your lifestyle if you keeping putting them through purity tests! I'm totally posting in good faith!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976134905] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>I don't see how this move helps them. It just gets some of the people who otherwise didn't care either way (about pronouns being in the game, or about there being a mod to remove them) annoyed about the obvious ideological favoritism at play.Nothing comes ahead of gamer choice imo.</quote>Anyone who would make that shift was always a dumbass though and them being shown the door is a good thing.We can't go through any fucking topic about LGBTQ discrimination without some enlightened centrist going "No one will ever support your lifestyle if you keeping putting them through purity tests! I'm totally posting in good faith!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 09/17/23 5:56:38 PM #99:	hockeybub89 posted... Fantasy races are biologically different though. Hell, Latina isn't even a race! You can be any "race" and be Latina. True. I was just touching on skin color is all. Heck, I saw we are all human. As for the "race" thing, I meant that customizing your toon is a thing in a dnd setting. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:976134915] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Fantasy races are biologically different though.Hell, Latina isn't even a race! You can be any "race" and be Latina.</quote>True. I was just touching on skin color is all. Heck, I saw we are all human. As for the "race" thing, I meant that customizing your toon is a thing in a dnd setting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Naysaspace 09/17/23 5:56:56 PM #100:	Hahahahaha <cite>Naysaspace posted [p:976134923] in Starfields... [t:80569007]...</cite> <quote>Hahahahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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