Current Events > Well that was... Awesome.... Close encounter with a homeless guy at midnight

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ZaruenKosai posted...

.. leave the fucking homeless people alone.

if you dont want people ringing your doorbell.. DONT BUY ONE.

Cut the wire to mine. Hate those fucking things.

Holy shit this topic is full of ppl with major insecurities trying to play moral cop lmao jesus

Tenlaar posted...

Are you really unable to comprehend that the guy having rung a doorbell doesnt change you and your neighbors reactions being weird and excessive? Is your expectation that people would be like Oh shit, a doorbell? Then its a good thing the cops were called and the neighborhood surveillance division was put into action!

Neighborhood watch is neither weird nor excessive. I've also acknowledged multiple times that using a drone for neighborhood watch isn't a normal thing, but I use it as a way to participate without having to confront suspicious people or watch them in person. Calling the police because some random person rang your doorbell at 11:40pm is neither weird nor excessive.

ZaruenKosai posted...

if you dont want people ringing your doorbell.. DONT BUY ONE.

stop stalking and harassing the homeless. .. leave the fucking homeless people alone.

they have enough issues and if you haven't been homeless, you have no right to judge them.

What kind of person goes around hunting the homeless with drones to record them

another person who either hasn't read the rest of the topic or just ignored it.

Damn, you really do either die a hero or post long enough to see yourself become a villain on CE lol

CableZL posted...

another person who either hasn't read the rest of the topic or just ignored it.

I read the topic.. a homeless person was taking a shower.

Have you ever been homeless before?
Do you know what its like to be homeless?

Most people here making fun of homeless would not survive one night on the streets themselves.

They attack the homeless out of fear , because they know it could happen to any of us, people treat homeless like literal trash in the streets.

ZaruenKosai posted...

I read the topic.. a homeless person was taking a shower.

Have you ever been homeless before?
Do you know what its like to be homeless?

Most people here making fun of homeless would not survive one night on the streets themselves.

They attack the homeless out of fear , because they know it could happen to any of us, people treat homeless like literal trash in the streets.

If you had read the topic, you would know that it wasn't known that he was homeless until after the fact. This was stated many times. You're just ignoring that fact intentionally, then.

Nobody is making fun of homeless people in this topic.

Think most of us never had a neighborhood watch before. Hell, I don't think my neighbors know who each other are.

chaos_knight posted...

Think most of us never had a neighborhood watch before. Hell, I don't think my neighbors know who each other are.

When I lived in apartments, I knew no one, for the most part, and I don't think there was a neighborhood watch. Or at least, I was unaware if one existed in the 3 apartment complexes I stayed in. They're very common, though.

There are at least a few apps dedicated to neighborhood watch these days.

CableZL posted...

Neighborhood watch is neither weird nor excessive. I've also acknowledged multiple times that using a drone for neighborhood watch isn't a normal thing, but I use it as a way to participate without having to confront suspicious people or watch them in person. Calling the police because some random person rang your doorbell at 11:40pm is neither weird nor excessive.

Activating the neighborhood watch and calling the police for no reason beyond somebody being in the area and ringing a doorbell is, in fact, both weird and excessive.

I figured this would be a dog pile on TC kind of topic.

I find the guy following in a car to be weirder than doing so with a drone. The car takes way more effort.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I always wonder how people in my neighborhood chat constantly know about all of this shit happening. I'm gonna start looking for drones.

There's always a few people who literally have nothing to do but peak from behind their curtains all day, phone in hand.

Tenlaar posted...

Activating the neighborhood watch and calling the police for no reason beyond somebody being in the area and ringing a doorbell is, in fact, both weird and excessive.

You're intentionally ignoring details just to keep arguing. Cops weren't called "because somebody is in the area and ringing a doorbell."

An unknown person rang someone's doorbell at 11:40pm. Someone living in that house alerted the neighborhood group chat and called the police.

A couple people who regularly participate in neighborhood watch investigated. One guy drove around to watch what he was doing. I used my drone to watch from above, which is something I don't think would normally happen in a neighborhood watch. However, it's a great tool to be able to watch a wide area and take pictures/video, which has been useful in the past.

I didn't read the whole topic, but isn't it illegal to just fly drones around? Don't you need a permit?

I live in a neighbourhood watch area.

People use the WhatsApp to inform each other if there have been any burglaries in the area and ask if someone can put their bins out while they are away.

Tailing strangers with drones is not a part of regular neighbourhood watch activity. In fact, the one time someone flew a drone around here, everyone got very pissy about it being able to look into their gardens.

ZaruenKosai posted...

A homeless person was trying to take a shower, you freaked out , and decided to become Master Private Investigator CableZL. Taking the law into your own hands, a vigilante to thwart the evil homeless people.

Stalking / harassing homeless people is making a mockery out of their life situation.

You said you went inside and started hunting down a homeless person to record them (with your drone) trying to survive a shit life you will most likely be unfortunate enough to not experience yourself.

If you haven/t been homeless, go learn some empathy/sympathy.
If you had any, you would feel bad for how you treated that homeless person.

You're deliberately misrepresenting things just to play moral police. You'll need to acknowledge what has been stated multiple times in this topic if you expect to be taken seriously.

This makes me glad I live in the hood. We just live and let live here, I have no idea who any of my neighbors are and at most we give each other a nod or a wave or a how ya doin? and thats literally it.

Hell we dont even rob each other anymore because we know were all poor and just trying to get by.

ZaruenKosai posted...

jezus christ, calling the police on someone for ringing your doorbell at night!?

it truly is the end of the world..... has no one every ordered food for delivery before in your neighborhood?

Common sense would tell you that if someone ordered food delivery, they would be expecting someone to ring the doorbell with food in hand. That's not what this is. That's a dumb comparison.

And I really dont understand why its so surprising to people ITT that a stranger who rings someones doorbell at 11:40pm would have the cops called on them. It doesnt mean ringing someones doorbell at that time of night is some serious offense. Its a sensible reaction.

Ok so i was sympathetic for like half a second until this. Like, seriously? What in the world is wrong with you?

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

Ok so i was sympathetic for like half a second until this. Like, seriously? What in the world is wrong with you?

Whats your problem with that post?

ZaruenKosai posted...

Common sense would tell you to leave the fucking homeless people alone and let them try to just fucking survive their shit life..

If they were causing a disturbance, call the police.... I dont think thats right or fair , but thats the only thing you should have done, you took the law into your own hands to harass a homeless and are complaining now that everyone is chewing yoru ass off instead of handing you a medal.

you were playihng the literal moral police when you stalked nad harassed a homeless person.

the only person in this topic not being taken seriously is you.

You're either deliberately lying about having read the topic or you've read it and you're lying about what happened. Which is it?

• The cops had already been called by the woman living in the house where he went to and rang the doorbell.
• I didn't know he was homeless until after the fact. I didn't know what he was doing in the alley by my house at all until the person who was driving around came back and told me.

This has been stated multiple times and you'll need to acknowledge that if you're claiming to have read the topic.

CableZL posted...

Whats your problem with that post?

Why in the world would you call the cops for ringing the doorbell? It's an odd time, but that alone isn't enough to warrant police involvement which tends to escalate situations, not deescalates

ZaruenKosai posted...

jezus christ, calling the police on someone for ringing your doorbell at night!?

I'm not going to blame too much without knowing details. Maybe the homeowner is a lady that lives alone and just watched The Strangers

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

Why in the world would you call the cops for ringing the doorbell? It's an odd time, but that alone isn't enough to warrant police involvement which tends to escalate situations, not deescalates

The vast majority of police encounters actually don't go like that. I'm all for having a discussion about bad police and the "other" police who cover up bad policing, but let's not pretend that most police encounters escalate things.

LSGW_Zephyra posted...

Why in the world would you call the cops for ringing the doorbell?

I don't think the TC did call the cops for that.
We don't really know anything about the person who did though. You have no idea their past or what trauma they could be carrying that could make them scared enough to call the cops in this situation.

Oh my god you almost had an interaction with a homeless person?

The fucking horror. This is a disgusting topic.

Glad you and your property are still safe, tc

This is weird as fuck and majority of CE agrees while TC still coming in as a die hard for their drone lol.

Neighborhood watch is great for looking out for each other. Cameras are used to catch suspicious activity and cops are called to investigate said activity. Instead you got people getting into their cars to follow a homeless dude who rang someones door bell and hadnt committed a crime and TC being a weirdo getting their drone out to harass the guy. The only time TC felt silly was when they were caught getting the drone out

The group chat is great and all to warn each other of suspicious activity. The act of following said activity to so fucking odd.

This is like a thing only white collar middle class people do.

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I don't think the TC did call the cops for that.
We don't really know anything about the person who did though. You have no idea their past or what trauma they could be carrying that could make them scared enough to call the cops in this situation.

Yep.

• Just from a perspective of our neighborhood, we don't live in what would be considered a walkable area. We don't have people just walking by on a regular basis at all, let alone having random people ring doorbells late at night. The only things nearby on foot are a gas station and a few fast food places that are about a 15 to 20 minute walk away.
• Women in general have to be more cautious than men. If he had rang my doorbell, I would have tried to talk to him through the doorbell to see what he wanted. I'm not sure if she has something like that installed on her house, but I don't blame her for calling the police in this situation at all.
• Most of the neighborhood watch incidents for us are related to people walking around late at night checking for unlocked car doors. I've caught someone on camera stealing patio furniture with my drone in the past.
• More benign incidents involve cows or horses coming over to our neighborhood from a nearby private ranch. I've actually helped the police locate them with my drone once.

MobileProphet posted...

This is weird as fuck and majority of CE agrees while TC still coming in as a die hard for their drone lol.

Neighborhood watch is great for looking out for each other. Cameras are used to catch suspicious activity and cops are called to investigate said activity. Instead you got people getting into their cars to follow a homeless dude who rang someones door bell and hadnt committed a crime and TC being a weirdo getting their drone out to harass the guy. The only time TC felt silly was when they were caught getting the drone out

The group chat is great and all to warn each other of suspicious activity. The act of following said activity to so fucking odd.

This is like a thing only white collar middle class people do.

The purpose of keeping track of the activity would be to let the police know where the activity is happening once they get here. Just from my experience alone, there have been a few cases where they've asked where things are happening once they get to the neighborhood.

Can't wait for some more heartwarming tales of 'Me and My Drone'.

I get those vibes of that black jogger in a white neighborhood meme.

Sexypwnstar posted...

Oh my god you almost had an interaction with a homeless person?

The fucking horror. This is a disgusting topic.

Another one who hasn't read the topic.

CableZL posted...

Another one who hasn't read the topic.

People have read the topic.

They don't agree with what you did.

Why are you struggling to understand this? Did you think everyone would just be so impressed with your drone that they wouldn't question its use?

ai123 posted...

People have read the topic.

They don't agree with what you did.

Why are you struggling to understand this? Did you think everyone would just be so impressed with your drone that they wouldn't question its use?

It has been pointed out multiple times in this topic that some of the people playing moral police either didn't read the whole topic or they're deliberately lying about what happened in order to do so.

Nothing in this topic was meant to impress anyone. I was just posting about what happened and what I did. The point of making the topic was simply to have a discussion about what happened.

Misrepresenting what happened because people are either not reading the details or deliberately ignoring the details is a lot of what's going on here.

I'm perfectly fine with discussing whether one should or shouldn't call the police in this scenario, or decide to follow the guy around vis car or any other method. Trying to frame what happened as seeing a homeless person and deciding to harass them even after it had been repeatedly explained that that isn't what happened is just ignorant at best.

I've given multiple explanations in this topic about why someone would call the police in this scenario, why some random dude walking around at this time of night is weird for us in our neighborhood, and why we have a neighborhood watch at all.

I'd rather discuss the actual facts of the incident than go back and forth with people who are just trying to be offended and shaping this into something it isn't.

CableZL posted...

It has been pointed out multiple times in this topic that some of the people playing moral police either didn't read the whole topic or they're deliberately lying about what happened in order to do so.

Every time someone disagrees with what you did, your response is that they didn't read the topic.

It's kind of funny to see the guy who posts about patrolling the neighbourhood with his faithful drone companion complain about other people playing police.

"Activity going on reported by the neighborhood app, time to bust out the drone" is indeed some strange behavior.

ai123 posted...

Every time someone disagrees with what you did, your response is that they didn't read the topic.

It's kind of funny to see the guy who posts about patrolling the neighbourhood with his faithful drone companion complain about other people playing police.

No, I've literally explained multiple times why I'm saying they haven't read the topic. Multiple peoe are trying to frame this as "seeing a homeless person and deciding to harass them," which isn't what happened. This has been repeated so many times in this topic.

And you're actually misrepresenting things in that very post. I never said other people are playing police. I said other people are playing moral police. Are you deliberately lying just to frame this into something else, or did you just misread?

I would agree with the characterization that people participating in neighborhood watch are "playing police," somewhat. People who do this are typically calling police and putting in extra effort to get police the details when they arrive.

voldothegr8 posted...

"Activity going on reported by the neighborhood app, time to bust out the drone" is indeed some strange behavior.

Yep. I've stated multple times that using a drone for this is abnormal. It's not why I bought it originally, but it's useful for this purpose.

This is weird, Cable. I hope this topic is fake. Goodness gracious.

Scarecrow17 posted...

This is weird, Cable. I hope this topic is fake. Goodness gracious.

What's your issue with this?

I think this is the "I've watched too much Criminal Minds and drastically overestimate the probability that the stranger in my neighborhood is a family annihilator, and drastically underestimate all other more innocuous possibilities" effect.

CableZL posted...

No, I've literally explained multiple times why I'm saying they haven't read the topic. Multiple peoe are trying to frame this as "seeing a homeless person and deciding to harass them," which isn't what happened. This has been repeated so many times in this topic.

That's what you ended up doing though, and you can't seem to grasp that people find it objectionable, while you call it 'Awesome'.

And you're actually misrepresenting things in that very post. I never said other people are playing police. I said other people are playing moral police. Are you deliberately lying just to frame this into something else, or did you just misread?

Moral policing is a type of policing. Hence the irony. Your fake outrage doesn't really work.

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Nah hes still cool. What he did last night was some dorky cringe shit and is doubling down on defending themselves that deserves to get made fun of lol.

ai123 posted...

That's what you ended up doing though

That's not what I ended up doing. I didn't see a homeless person and decide to harass them. I've explained multiple times in this topic that I had no idea he was homeless until after the fact. In the moment, I was just using my drone to monitor a strange person in the neighborhood. Again, if one has actually read the topic, they would know that..

ai123 posted...

and you can't seem to grasp that people find it objectionable, while you call it 'Awesome'.

No, I understand that there are some people who have read everything ITT and disagree with things that happened for one reason or another. I'm having actual discussions with those people. Subjects such as:

• Should someone call the police on a person ringing their doorbell late at night? I understand why people wouldn't. Personally, I wouldn't, but there are many reasons why someone would and I've listed a few of them in a prior post.
• Is calling the police likely to escalate the situation? Statistics say now, but there is a larger discussion to be had about bad police and "other" police who protect bad police and/or cover up bad policing.
• Did I word things in the original post and topic title poorly? Survey says yes. I wasn't thinking about that in the moment, though.

And your post is another example. If you had read post #69:

CableZL posted...

Well that was awesome Was sarcasm, which can be understandably difficult to discern through text. I wouldnt describe it as a giddy thrill. Thats just you making an assumption about how I feel about it. If you actually wanted to know or confirm how I felt during/after the situation, it would have been better to ask instead of just making an assumption. Same for you assuming I didnt think of the guy as a person. Everyone is a person. Everyone in any story is a prop for the telling of the tale.

Part of having a conversation involves asking and answering questions. I posted the details in the manner I did because thats just the way I felt like doing it.

You would know that the phrase "Well, that was... awesome..." was sarcasm. Which leaves me wondering the following questions:

• Did just miss that post while claiming to have read the topic?
• Did you read it and are now just trying to misrepresent things?

Which is it?

ai123 posted...

Moral policing is a type of policing. Hence the irony. Your fake outrage doesn't really work.

Do we really need to explain the difference between "Playing moral police" and "Playing police?" It has been pointed out multiple times in this topic how people are misrepresenting the situation in order to frame it as "seeing a homeless person and deciding to harass them."

MobileProphet posted...

Nah hes still cool. What he did last night was some dorky cringe shit and is doubling down on defending themselves that deserves to get made fun of lol.

No, I can understand why someone would view using a drone for this is dorky and/or cringey. What I'm arguing against is people misrepresenting the basics of what happened.

indica posted...

Nothing against watching out for neighbors, but your topic title is super cringe and comes off as pretty prejudice

This is also a fair criticism, imo. I definitely could have worded things better in the topic title and in the original post. I probably need to do a better job of going back and proof reading my posts in general so that I don't spend so much time editing typos or rewording something and not correcting the entire phrase/paragraph.

In the moment, though, I wasn't thinking about how my wording could legitimately be viewed as prejudiced.