Current Events > Gov. Whitmer signs law banning child marriage in Michigan.

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Solar_Crimson
09/22/23 10:48:20 AM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/gov-gretchen-whitmer-signs-legislation-to-ban-child-marriage-in-michigan/

BTW, here's a list of all the Michigan politicians who voted against the bill. Guess their party affiliation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/16p8wwx/gov_gretchen_whitmer_signs_legislation_to_ban/k1phpnm/

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Lokison
09/22/23 10:48:46 AM
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It took this long?

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Cephalopods
09/22/23 10:49:30 AM
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Big yikes that anybody would vote against this. I thought Republicans were currently pushing their "protecting children" narrative. I guess they just don't want to protect them from themselves though
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Crimsoness
09/22/23 10:49:43 AM
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Why Republicans wanna fuck kids so much?

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gamerofNS
09/22/23 10:49:57 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/gov-gretchen-whitmer-signs-legislation-to-ban-child-marriage-in-michigan/

BTW, here's a list of all the Michigan politicians who voted against the bill. Guess their party affiliation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/16p8wwx/gov_gretchen_whitmer_signs_legislation_to_ban/k1phpnm/
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Solar_Crimson
09/22/23 11:03:06 AM
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Lokison posted...
It took this long?
Pushback from conservatives. Similar legislation that had been tried to be enacted in other states failed because their Republicans came out strongly against it.

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davyheinz
09/22/23 11:05:10 AM
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Awww yeah

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ai123
09/22/23 11:09:29 AM
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They just don't want Big Government telling them they can't marry their underage daughters off to their rapists.

Such egregious overreach! Now excuse me, there are some books with rainbows in them that need banning . . .

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bigblu89
09/22/23 11:09:37 AM
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Ok.

Unless they tried to slip some BS into the bill, I REALLY need someone to explain to me why you would vote against this.

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ScazarMeltex
09/22/23 11:09:57 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Pushback from conservatives. Similar legislation that had been tried to be enacted in other states failed because their Republicans came out strongly against it.
Well duh, how can they legally fuck kids if they aren't allowed to marry them?

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Were_Wyrm
09/22/23 11:10:54 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
Ok.

Unless they tried to slip some BS into the bill, I REALLY need someone to explain to me why you would vote against this.

Crimsoness posted...
Republicans wanna fuck kids


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MrMallard
09/22/23 11:12:23 AM
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Yeah, child marriage is still legal in like 38 states or something. I don't know if there's a lower age limit - like clearly there would be, no-one is going to marry a three year old to a thirty three year old - but there is a subset of American teenagers who've been married to adult men and have to balance being a child wife and being a high school junior.

38 states is a rough ballpark guess, all I know is that it's significantly over half of US states - like it doesn't just eke out over the halfway point, it's probably closer to three quarters of the country than half. Even one state with a parental consent loophole for young teens is too much, but the actual number is beyond shocking all things considered.
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MrMallard
09/22/23 11:25:14 AM
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Also - this reminds me of an episode of a Kevin Smith podcast I used to listen to. It was his Batman-centric podcast of all places, because he had established a charity called the Wayne Foundation to help combat the sexual exploitation and trafficking of children in the US. Googling it, it seems like it's been inert since 2018, so I wonder what's up with that.

Regardless - and the following content is spoiler-marked for triggering content - he interviewed a woman who he essentially put in charge of the Wayne Foundation. She had been subject to sexual abuse throughout her teenage years, recounting a handful of her abusers. One of them was a man who took her to his place every few months and would like pay her money and buy her nice things, and he'd try to get her pregnant because the law of his state is that if a girl becomes pregnant by a man - including an underage girl - he had the right to marry her and keep her with him as his spouse. I'm pretty sure the woman recounting this story was like fourteen at the time.

She never got pregnant to him, and eventually she managed to leave - despite being a pedophile, he at least let her leave when she said she wanted to stop. Years later, when she was around 20 or so, they re-established contact and he was with another young teenager who he had gotten pregnant.

The trafficking isn't legal in that state, but once the teenager is knocked up, it's fully legal for a pedophile to get married to them. That's a law in an American state.
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Prestoff
09/22/23 11:27:22 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
Ok.

Unless they tried to slip some BS into the bill, I REALLY need someone to explain to me why you would vote against this.

Yeah this, it's also bad optics to vote against. I really love to see the excuse Republicans make to vote nay on this.

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FearlessMango
09/22/23 11:32:08 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if the few boneheaded Republicans voting against it simply did it because democrats voted for it

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hereforemnant
09/22/23 11:35:29 AM
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FearlessMango posted...
It wouldn't surprise me if the few boneheaded Republicans voting against it simply did it because democrats voted for it
Spite is their entire motivation for politics now after all

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LightHawKnight
09/22/23 11:36:35 AM
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Always wondered why dont democrats or independents just air ads constantly about republicans wanting to be pedos? I mean it should help them win a lot of votes.

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Avirosb
09/22/23 11:37:17 AM
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Crimsoness posted...
Why Republicans wanna fuck kids so much?
They love to abuse people weaker than them, hth

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Will_VIII
09/22/23 11:41:02 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Always wondered why dont democrats or independents just air ads constantly about republicans wanting to be pedos? I mean it should help them win a lot of votes.
They really need to

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Nota214
09/22/23 11:41:36 AM
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Lokison posted...
It took this long?
You have to keep in mind that Republicans have been in control of Michigan for nearly 4 decades. I'm sure it's not a coincidence that when this bill was signed, conservatives were up in arms about it.
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Vyrulisse
09/22/23 11:43:24 AM
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I looked through a few of the links from the reddit post and it doesn't appear to have anything shady or sneaky in it. It's straight up a bill to ban child marriage.
There's a lot of links though and I dunno how to parse government websites, is this it?

Here's the Government page link if anyone's curious: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(q4vk2d1s4cxwas455ufnx2j1))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2023-HB-4294

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Solar_Crimson
09/22/23 12:29:49 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Always wondered why dont democrats or independents just air ads constantly about republicans wanting to be pedos? I mean it should help them win a lot of votes.
Because all of the major networks are owned by rich conservatives.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
09/22/23 12:31:48 PM
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Whats their reason to vote against this? FREEDOM? Cause thats not a good look.


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Kaldrenthebold
09/22/23 12:32:36 PM
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Conservatives in outrage because of

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Prestoff
09/22/23 12:41:48 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I looked through a few of the links from the reddit post and it doesn't appear to have anything shady or sneaky in it. It's straight up a bill to ban child marriage.
There's a lot of links though and I dunno how to parse government websites, is this it?

Here's the Government page link if anyone's curious: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(q4vk2d1s4cxwas455ufnx2j1))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=2023-HB-4294

That's it, thanks for looking it up. Normally for a bill like this there would be some "sneaky" thing they slip in that the opposition would use against bills, but it's very black and white. I don't normally call people groomers in bad faith because it's starting to lose its meaning like the word "woke" and "racist", but what is the benefit to child/teen marriages?

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Umbreon
09/22/23 12:50:59 PM
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Anyone who voted against that needs to be investigated immediately.

The ToU doesn't allow me to say what else should be done to those who enabled children being 'legally' sold off to adults via marriage.

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