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Stop making shit up! You do this crap all the time. Remember Yamato from One Piece? Bridget from Guilty Gear?

the nice looking 6 color flag instead of the ugly corporate abomination that didn't exist in 2009

Imagine if leftists got this mad every time capitalism showed in a game...

Imagine if Atheists got this mad every time there was a religious reference in a game...

Imagine if LGBTQ people got this mad whenever a straight cis relationship was in a game...

There's a fair argument to use whichever you want for Yamato given how (poorly) Oda wrote that situation,

No, there's really not

The argument for Yamato being a trans man is that he refers to himself as a man, uses male pronouns, everybody around him uses male pronouns and acknowledges him as "Kaido's son", and he prefers to join the other men in gendered activities such as which public bath to use.

The argument against Yamato being a trans man is that he has boobs and a single info box refers to him as "Kaido's daughter".

One of these arguments is much, much, much stronger and more valid than the other. I'll let you decide which one.

The director even made a direct statement reconfirming this again, not too long after transphobes made fake customer support emails to try and trick people after her announcement in Strive.

Isn't Persona the series that has a giant cock in a wheelbarrow as a recurring villain

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Right-wingers just can't fathom the idea of LGBTQ+ individuals existing.

they are also learning more and more that japan is not their safe space they thought it was

Isn't Persona the series that has a giant cock in a wheelbarrow as a recurring villain

Isn't Persona the series that has a giant cock in a wheelbarrow as a recurring villain

There's a fair argument to use whichever you want for Yamato given how (poorly) Oda wrote that situation, but Bridget is 100% trans beyond all doubt. The director even made a direct statement reconfirming this again, not too long after transphobes made fake customer support emails to try and trick people after her announcement in Strive.

Isn't Persona the series that has a giant cock in a wheelbarrow as a recurring villain

sometime its an ally

Yeah, dick demon aside, isn't there a whole storyline in one of the games where some tough street punk comes to terms with the fact that he's gay?

But these are the same kind of people who used to argue that Bill in the Last of Us isn't gay just because Ellie finds gay porn at his house.

Its implied hes bi but never outright stated, Persona 2 has a gay romance option.

Bicurious, not bi.

IIRC its officially open to interpretation.

No it's not.
He's canonically interested in Naoto.

It's alnost like you ignoring the purpose of accepting the shadow. It's to accept those dark thoughts as a part of themselves, but not the defining thing about them.
Or else Yosuke a maniac that getting thrill over other's death, Chie hates Yukiko completely, Naoto is a trans, etc.

He fancies her when he thinks shes a boy and still fanciers her when he finds out shes a girl. IIRC the official dev stance is that its ambiguous.

The way persona 4 handled Kanji and Naoto was far from perfect. Yet I don't think it was intentionally malicious ether. They are both young teens still understanding themselves and the roles society placed on them. Kanji's beliefs of sensuality and masculinity were being questioned as he didn't fit them. He had to come to terms that he didn't fit traditional masculinity, that he had interests that were generally seen as feminine. His first crush apparently being male was enough to break him. Yeah he turned out not being gay but the important thing was that he learned to accept that he can have interests that society thinks are feminine, and that's okay. So his story isn't purely conservative ether as it argues against traditional gender roles.

Same thing with Naoto. Yeah it treats the situations of transitioning as body horror, something akin to a bad scientist experimenting on a body and that is transphobic today but I also don't thing there is any ill intent in place. Once again her story is about society and how it forces people to fit into traditional roles and being able to accept yourself, rather then force yourself into that role. Because she doesn't fit traditional feminine traits she has felt resentment from adults and society and her Shadow self twisted that into body horror.

It's not about them being gay or trans it's about them not fitting the ridged gender constraints of a conservative society. Or at least that's my take away.

* hopefully all my sentences are correct do I don't get across the wrong meaning.

The way persona 4 handled Kanji and Naoto was far from perfect. Yet I don't think it was intentionally malicious ether. They are both young teens still understanding themselves and the roles society placed on them. Kanji's beliefs of sensuality and masculinity were being questioned as he didn't fit them. He had to come to terms that he didn't fit traditional masculinity, that he had interests that were generally seen as feminine. His first crush apparently being male was enough to break him. Yeah he turned out not being gay but the important thing was that he learned to accept that he can have interests that society thinks are feminine, and that's okay. So his story isn't purely conservative ether as it argues against traditional gender roles.

Same thing with Naoto. Yeah it treats the situations of transitioning as body horror, something akin to a bad scientist experimenting on a body and that is transphobic today but I also don't thing there is any ill intent in place. Once again her story is about society and how it forces people to fit into traditional roles and being able to accept yourself, rather then force yourself into that role. Because she doesn't fit traditional feminine traits she has felt resentment from adults and society and her Shadow self twisted that into body horror.

It's not about them being gay or trans it's about them not fitting the ridged gender constraints of a conservative society. Or at least that's my take away.

* hopefully all my sentences are correct do I don't get across the wrong meaning.

The irony is that the Persona games are pretty "woke" in a lot of ways

I remember when Zombieland Saga came out they were adamant that a character being transgender was added in the localisation lol.

i remember that

same was said about bridigett from guilty gear

I also remember something similar being said about Xenoblade 3 and one of the characters not being referred to by any gendered language and probably slipping a they in the dub.

Only for it to be the case that every instance of said character being referred to in the Japanese script was done so by name.

said character is non binary in the games freaking code even

said character is non binary in the games freaking code even

Has anyone ever seen one of these kinds of twitter posts and delved into their profiles? I like to do it out of morbid curiosity sometimes and it's honestly hard to look at their feeds for more than a couple of minutes. I'd say 9/10 times these kinds of twitter accounts are genuinely miserable, hateful people.

Like yeah sure bigotry against LGBT people is common in America but these people make it their personality. They will seek out details like this specifically to get mad and malign how things they love are "ruined." I don't even really think a decent chunk of them like games or media at all because all they tend to do is have an existential crisis over how it isn't the same as it was when they were kids.

It can be fun to mock these people but these posts are the norm for them. They get mad at anything inferring gay people or black people exist and spend hours in their feeds having impassioned arguments about it when they could be playing games that are fun instead.

I wonder if people like this have always existed in this way or if the internet has created misery ecosystems where sad bigots can conglomerate and get adrenaline hits off of being angry at minorities. Shit isn't healthy.