Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXV: Final Results and Discussion

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Suprak_the_Stud
09/25/23 9:19:00 PM
#151:


Suprak/FFD/Lopen/Andylt/Swordz - I know that I am very opinionated, and I can be very abrasive when our favorites don't necessarily align, as is the case with quite a few characters that you guys like (even in the course of this very contest). But as always, I do apologize for my attitude, and the fact that you still helped join the Vanille train and pushed her over the edge (that's 50 of her votes right there) means so much.

Like I said, you're entitled to like who you like and not like who you don't like! I like Selphie but I know a lot of people don't, so it's fine.

I'm just here to save my favorite final fantasy characters and I do like most of the XIII cast, so I wasn't going to anti-vote her.

Happy Vanille got the win! If we could just get Sazh a victory then all the great XIII characters would have one.

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Pokewars
09/25/23 9:19:56 PM
#152:


Suprak_the_Stud posted...
Yeah he's just trolling you guys.

This is the second straight year he speaks of a mysterious and evil Aerith cabal doing bad stuff, but then doesn't actually save Aerith. He was posting all sort of stuff intentionally meant to get people mad at Aerith and then doesn't actually do anything to save her.

Very curious about you this year. I thought Aerith was high up but other girls were a priority??

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Grimlyn
09/25/23 9:21:26 PM
#153:


bot who saves Vanille in SMFFFC XXV

*queries manually*
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/5/AAeYFbAAE34j.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/6/AAeYFbAAE34k.png

this is excluding Finals

*edit* added Locke to the right

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Mobilezoid
09/25/23 9:23:26 PM
#154:


Damn, a lot of mine are obfuscated behind trades, but Nee and kateee really carried Vanille! I'm glad they got her through to the point where people like me could hop aboard.

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MartinFF7
09/25/23 9:25:21 PM
#155:


Mmm yeah 15 of my 17 Vanilles were trades (thank you Robazoid), VI and most of Plasma's too. In retrospect and a similar vein I also only saved Aerith 3 times all contest, lol.

12 Lockes eh.... yeah Days 87 through 98, checks out, nice
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kateee
09/25/23 9:27:28 PM
#157:


YOOOOOOO

LET'S FUCKING GOOO
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

AHHHHHHHH

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Mewtwo59
09/25/23 9:28:46 PM
#158:


I'm actually shocked Pokewars is the top Locke saver since I always took him as an Aeris main.

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 9:31:03 PM
#160:


mnk posted...
I actually do often feel my side projects hurt Locke if they last long enough. It's definitely my fault he died in the Gau year, and if my negligence hadn't killed Mog first this year, it could've happened again.

Yeah, this is what I'm saying about it being unlikely Locke gets back anytime soon. Most characters who reach the finals get there through things breaking right for them to make a run, not because they had the backing in place to get there early on. Locke got favorable circumstances this year. He's not a consistent threat.

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Pokewars
09/25/23 9:32:54 PM
#161:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I'm actually shocked Pokewars is the top Locke saver since I always took him as an Aeris main.

Locke was my favorite for the longest time but then I actually played FF7 and was enamored with Aerith. Lines up for the last....3 years I've supported her.

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Fiop
09/25/23 9:33:32 PM
#162:


Yay, congrats to Vanille. Amazed at the amount of support she got this contest. Im pretty sure Ive supported her in past contests. Also, I may have saved her some early this contest, but dont remember. (edit: just saw Grimlyns stats. If I saved her 6 times not including finals, it mustve been during the final all the rounds after Selphie was booted. I was at least rooting for Vanille early even if I didnt save her)

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Xuxon
09/25/23 9:34:06 PM
#163:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I'm actually shocked Pokewars is the top Locke saver since I always took him as an Aeris main.
I kind of think of him as Aeris is his 1a and Locke his 1b (and Seph somewhere near the top maybe 3?). I assume he carried Locke while Aeris didn't need him and mnk carried Mog.

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Pokewars
09/25/23 9:40:23 PM
#164:


Fun fact:

Before I played any FF, I watched this series on Newgrounds back in the day called Final Fighting Fantasy:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmICzbWuBPXr5VNw6jreFsPlggxzodrn3&si=Z9D6QBC1VKyXInjx

Anyone else watch it? Locke became my favorite there first, then played FFVI and loved him in the actual game.

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Grimlyn
09/25/23 9:41:09 PM
#165:


getting back to logging another page of XX Finals

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/4/AAeYFbAAE34s.png

mnk really keeps making the best retrospective posts

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MZero
09/25/23 9:41:23 PM
#166:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I'm actually shocked Pokewars is the top Locke saver since I always took him as an Aeris main.

I'm more shocked I was a close second... and that I even made 47 rounds

Locke would probably be a more consistent threat if I was around but also I'm not really interested in pushing him to a third loss

at least I'll always have the Tidus win

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Eddv
09/25/23 9:44:06 PM
#167:


Grimlyn posted...
expanding on this a little further

Lightning getting lawyered was the best thing that ever happened to XIII

Youre welcome everyone

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 9:44:59 PM
#168:


Grimlyn posted...
mnk really keeps making the best retrospective posts

you won't be saying this after Hope wins

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Mewtwo59
09/25/23 9:46:42 PM
#169:


It better be after Sazh, because I don't want RacistFAQs to be more than just a meme.

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 9:47:38 PM
#170:


Mewtwo59 posted...
It better be after Sazh, because I don't want RacistFAQs to be more than just a meme.

Barret can't even be the last VII standing, you think they're going to let Sazh win?!

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TheKnightOfNee
09/25/23 9:49:23 PM
#171:


This contest was a little weird for me because in the early rounds of the contest, life got super busy, and multiple characters I wanted to go far took hits. Because it was clear early I would have trouble keeping my absolute favorites alive for reasons out my control, I decided to just be more indifferent the results, and not get wrapped up in how far they went. So this contest was much less stressful than normal.

I hardly even participated in any in-round save trades. I never knew when I'd be back to the topic, or how long I could stick around to check the confirmations. For extra saves I had, some of them just went to helping the favorites of folks who had helped my favorites in the past. So I guess in a way, I went with indirect saves.

I'm glad we get a final result that makes some people very happy. Actually, I think most potential winners would make some folks very happy, so let's keep 'em coming in future years. Eventually we'll all get a shot to see out favorites win, right?

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KommunistKoala
09/25/23 9:51:35 PM
#172:


y-yea

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Mobilezoid
09/25/23 9:54:02 PM
#173:


I've said it before, we just need to retire past winners and then, on a long enough timeline, everyone can win! Our great great great grandchildren on the colony starship leaving a dying Earth could be voting on Queen Brahne vs Gigameth

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Lopen
09/25/23 9:54:35 PM
#174:


TheKnightOfNee posted...
Eventually we'll all get a shot to see out favorites win, right?

Unlikely!

Closest I ever got was Yuffie (who is maybe top 5 for me) who faced a FFD fueled Zell. Doubt Yuffie can ever make that push again.

But I'm cool with seeing good characters win in general.

I mean I guess Tidus is one of my favorites but that run never felt like mine.

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Ashethan
09/25/23 9:55:15 PM
#175:


Mobilezoid posted...
I've said it before, we just need to retire past winners and then, on a long enough timeline, everyone can win! Our great great great grandchildren on the colony starship leaving a dying Earth could be voting on Queen Brahne vs Gigameth

"This is finally Queen Brahne's year!"

"Okay who the fuck is Reynn and how did she get to the finals?"

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 9:56:00 PM
#176:


TheKnightOfNee posted...
I'm glad we get a final result that makes some people very happy. Actually, I think most potential winners would make some folks very happy

theoretically nobody wins without someone wanting them to win

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Mewtwo59
09/25/23 9:56:19 PM
#177:


Ashethan posted...
"This is finally Queen Brahne's year!"

"Okay who the fuck is Reynn and how did she get to the finals?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuxrG94yY5I

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Grimlyn
09/25/23 10:02:53 PM
#178:


when I finish logging XX and my counts are missing 1 cidp 1 fang according to the official record

oh joy i get to audit now

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Grimlyn
09/25/23 10:03:27 PM
#179:


oh

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 10:05:25 PM
#181:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Retiring winners in a series with thousands of characters isnt the worst idea.

what good characters are getting shut out every year because we just don't have enough spots for them

this is part of the purpose boots serve anyway

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Mobilezoid
09/25/23 10:06:28 PM
#182:


LeonhartFour posted...
what good characters are getting shut out every year because we just don't have enough spots for them
Queen Brahne and Gigameth

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MartinFF7
09/25/23 10:07:10 PM
#183:


Mobilezoid posted...
Gigameth

I just burst out laughing, I can't believe I forgot Gigameth in our XXVI Projected Nominations list, damn. Will need to drop someone to make room for him.
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Ashethan
09/25/23 10:09:09 PM
#184:


Retire characters, then have a "Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Champion" afterwards. Then Squall could win every year. Well theoretically anyway.

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Grimlyn
09/25/23 10:09:36 PM
#185:


oh hey it's 10pm time to build Sehl'teus

hype, audit can wait

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Mewtwo59
09/25/23 10:10:07 PM
#186:


Poor Desch still getting passed over for other III characters.

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MZero
09/25/23 10:12:59 PM
#187:


Mobilezoid posted...
Queen Brahne and Gigameth

LeonhartFour posted...
what good characters are getting shut out every year because we just don't have enough spots for them


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Lopen
09/25/23 10:15:00 PM
#188:


Retiring winners is a good way to kill interest in a hurry

I'm certainly not interested in seeing X-Death get his participation award win in SMFFFC LXVIII after the top 66 entrants were retired. Talk about an empty win.

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Mewtwo59
09/25/23 10:16:25 PM
#189:


We basically do retire winners, at least as finals contenders (unless your name is Vivi).

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 10:16:27 PM
#190:


I feel like X-Death being the first character to get to ten boots will be considered a championship of its own when he achieves that

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Lopen
09/25/23 10:17:47 PM
#191:


X-Death and Wakka are the only ones who can hope to win it

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MartinFF7
09/25/23 10:48:39 PM
#192:


no the era of Wakka booting has come to an end I fear, so long as Genny and charon are protecting him...

X-Death though, that's all on you, lol
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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 10:54:14 PM
#193:


Wakka has been booted plenty in the Gen/charon era, so I don't think that'll stop him

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v_charon
09/25/23 10:58:35 PM
#194:


No, once he was booted because I was holding my save and refreshing, but I didn't notice a new page had appeared and I continued to not notice for like a couple of minutes. I had a save ready for him but I was being greedy, and that was one of his many boots.

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Lopen
09/25/23 11:01:16 PM
#195:


Everyone who nominates Wakka has adhd and/or wants every other nominator to pick up the slack and so no one does and he gets booted

I never expect anyone to pick up the slack but don't care enough about the contest enough to f5 when I'm busy. Whiskey Nick is his number 2 saver and also doesn't care enough to f5 it is a bad combo.

It's a toss up who reaches 10 boots first imo.

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LeonhartFour
09/25/23 11:05:01 PM
#196:


Wakka is probably safe next year, but once he's not someone's high priority, he'll get booted immediately.

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Grimlyn
09/25/23 11:06:37 PM
#197:


oh, both the XX saves I missed were in the first twenty posts whoops

well I still gotta audit my XXIs for 1 missing Edward

but NOW back to omnia sehl'teusing

*fake-edit*

screw it here's the current state of my leftyera finals excelsheet, with the missing Edward save I'll search for later. I wanna play omnia and if i don't post it I'mma gonna wanna keep fixing

https://savemy.app/finals/smfffc-finals.htm

also technically I should extend my XXI Streaks chart to 17 since that was actually accomplished but... no, i don't think i will

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v_charon
09/25/23 11:08:25 PM
#198:


So I wanted to have this ready before SMFFFC ended, but I guess this will do. Some people probably know what a Gauntlet is, it's sort of a relic from the past at this point. But I do actually keep one of these gauntlets up to date, and it's the video game character one. I figured it might be fun to share it and my own results, and see if anyone else maybe wanted to play it:

https://i.imgur.com/OyVkYgy.jpg

Essentially, a "gauntlet" is just running a program that pits 2 (or 4) characters against one another. You choose the one you like more and they move on. The program randomly selects more characters and you keep picking the ones you like until there are no more characters left. I decided to put in the work and update all the images for Final Fantasy characters I wasn't personally happy with. I also tried to add in anything that was missing from the gauntlet too, which included adding the entirety of Brave Exvius (which was a huge chore).

https://www.mediafire.com/file/8d55dbs7035o2hi/VideoGameCharacters.rar/file

Basically you just download the file and unzip it; it's a pretty big file because it contains over 38,000 video game characters. Just a few things to note about it. I didn't create the program, I just curate the content. You will need to use a "tag" to run it, the tag for Final Fantasy is just "ff" without the quotations. You will also need to know the exact number of characters that I've tagged with that, which is 1307. So yeah, obviously this is a very inclusive list! You will indeed find Stamp and ?????? here. For the purposes of SMFFFC, the only stuff that isn't going to be there is anything that never appeared in a video game. So no Dad of Light, and no Aki Ross. Square must either not have the rights to do it or don't want to be reminded of the time they lost that much money, because she never even appeared in Record Keeper or Brave Exvius.

Anyway, hopefully someone enjoys this. Like I said, despite gauntlets being dead I keep this one relatively up to date (it's current through June of this year right now). I mostly continue to maintain it because it keeps me up to date on games I don't have time to play anymore.

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Xuxon
09/25/23 11:12:16 PM
#199:


if you are really just missing 1 Edward save from XXI finals it's lefty's last save

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GuessMyUserName
09/25/23 11:13:37 PM
#200:


lmao

that tracks with my missing XX saves being a couple of the very first saves

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