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OmnimonZwart 09/29/23 3:19:40 PM #1:	So why are games set in the future like Mass Effect, Halo, Starfield, etc. so in love with capitalism? These worlds extrapolate the shitty present into what should be a hopeful and wondrous future. We need more sci-fi games set in futures like Star Trek, the Orville, or the Culture. <cite>OmnimonZwart posted [p:976378841] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>So why are games set in the future like Mass Effect, Halo, Starfield, etc. so in love with capitalism? These worlds extrapolate the shitty present into what should be a hopeful and wondrous future. We need more sci-fi games set in futures like Star Trek, the Orville, or the Culture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass 09/29/23 3:21:59 PM #2:	We need some Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism in our games for sure. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Bass posted [p:976378883] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>We need some Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism in our games for sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 09/29/23 3:23:45 PM #3:	Writing things that actually require that you give a crap is hard. Hence right-winger copouts represent the overwhelming amount of economic/governmental types in games. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:976378909] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Writing things that actually require that you give a crap is hard. Hence right-winger copouts represent the overwhelming amount of economic/governmental types in games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Noname12 09/29/23 3:25:03 PM #4:	Does it matter --- Darkprince45 <cite>Noname12 posted [p:976378936] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Does it matter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmnimonZwart 09/29/23 3:31:01 PM #5:	Noname12 posted... Does it matter Yes <cite>OmnimonZwart posted [p:976379045] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Noname12 posted... </cite><quote>Does it matter</quote>Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mercurydude 09/29/23 3:33:40 PM #6:	Bioshock sure as hell wasn't. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast <cite>mercurydude posted [p:976379080] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Bioshock sure as hell wasn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 09/29/23 3:34:22 PM #7:	I haven't played halo since like the second one. How does halo have capitalism? --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:976379090] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>I haven't played halo since like the second one. How does halo have capitalism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 09/29/23 3:38:35 PM #8:	Because otherwise, every Sci Fi game would be as bleak as the Cyberpunk universe. It's more realistic, but also more depressing --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:976379154] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Because otherwise, every Sci Fi game would be as bleak as the Cyberpunk universe. It's more realistic, but also more depressing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/29/23 3:40:37 PM #10:	Can't speak towards Starfield so much but how are Mass Effect and Halo in love with capitalism? --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:976379197] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Can't speak towards Starfield so much but how are Mass Effect and Halo in love with capitalism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Big_Nabendu 09/29/23 3:41:01 PM #11:	Tim Curry says different https://youtu.be/g1Sq1Nr58hM?si=-kELggC7QjBiiQm3 --- The embrace of the Dark is gentle. Let it absorb your sorrows, forever. \[T]/ Owner of the 500 board and Leader of sunbro board GT Nabendu <cite>Big_Nabendu posted [p:976379206] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Tim Curry says different https://youtu.be/g1Sq1Nr58hM?si=-kELggC7QjBiiQm3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 09/29/23 3:41:13 PM #12:	Most cats who make it as video game writers probably have a bourgeois background and thus are influenced to write in the tradition of bourgeois propaganda --- Posted from my iPhone 13 <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:976379210] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Most cats who make it as video game writers probably have a bourgeois background and thus are influenced to write in the tradition of bourgeois propaganda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BombermanGold 09/29/23 3:41:58 PM #14:	Halo doesn't do capitalism? Or even mention it. Mass Effect has the Star Trek Ferengi ripoffs, but that's it; the other races have their own form of government and Humans seem to be under the US banner (lol). But then doesn't really focus on groups of people much nor their form of government and economy.... Guess the TC was bored and randomly thought of stuff that doesn't pertain much to the listed examples. --- "I will be your superhero!!!" STEAM ID: BombermanGOLDEN <cite>BombermanGold posted [p:976379225] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Halo doesn't do capitalism? Or even mention it.Mass Effect has the Star Trek Ferengi ripoffs, but that's it; the other races have their own form of government and Humans seem to be under the US banner (lol). But then doesn't really focus on groups of people much nor their form of government and economy....Guess the TC was bored and randomly thought of stuff that doesn't pertain much to the listed examples. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DipDipDiver 09/29/23 3:42:26 PM #15:	I never got the impression that Mass Effect was in love with capitalism, the series frequently highlights all the fucked up stuff spacefaring corporations are doing on other planets <cite>DipDipDiver posted [p:976379234] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>I never got the impression that Mass Effect was in love with capitalism, the series frequently highlights all the fucked up stuff spacefaring corporations are doing on other planets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/29/23 3:45:57 PM #16:	NoxObscuras posted... Because otherwise, every Sci Fi game would be as bleak as the Cyberpunk universe. It's more realistic, but also more depressing what --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976379295] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Because otherwise, every Sci Fi game would be as bleak as the Cyberpunk universe. It's more realistic, but also more depressing</quote>what </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 09/29/23 3:54:42 PM #17:	DarthAragorn posted... what Well in the opening post, TC basically says that even though present day corporations are shitty, games present future civilization as cheerful and bright. Which I do see that a bit in cities like New Atlantis in Starfield. So to me, the opposite of that would be world's like Cyberpunk where corporate corruption and control is very open and obvious. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:976379444] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>what</quote>Well in the opening post, TC basically says that even though present day corporations are shitty, games present future civilization as cheerful and bright. Which I do see that a bit in cities like New Atlantis in Starfield.So to me, the opposite of that would be world's like Cyberpunk where corporate corruption and control is very open and obvious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 09/29/23 3:56:33 PM #18:	Because capitalism is an unfair system that creates conflict. It is easier to build an interesting world with inherit conflict in it compared to something more utopian. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:976379478] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Because capitalism is an unfair system that creates conflict. It is easier to build an interesting world with inherit conflict in it compared to something more utopian. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/29/23 3:57:20 PM #19:	NoxObscuras posted... Well in the opening post, TC basically says that even though present day corporations are shitty, games present future civilization as cheerful and bright. Which I do see that a bit in cities like New Atlantis in Starfield. So to me, the opposite of that would be world's like Cyberpunk where corporate corruption and control is very open and obvious. Ah see I took TC's post as wanting futuristic sci-fi games that don't use capitalist societies so I thought you were implying Cyberpunk wasn't capitalist --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:976379490] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Well in the opening post, TC basically says that even though present day corporations are shitty, games present future civilization as cheerful and bright. Which I do see that a bit in cities like New Atlantis in Starfield.So to me, the opposite of that would be world's like Cyberpunk where corporate corruption and control is very open and obvious.</quote>Ah see I took TC's post as wanting futuristic sci-fi games that don't use capitalist societies so I thought you were implying Cyberpunk wasn't capitalist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cephalopods 09/29/23 4:00:37 PM #20:	Outer Worlds seemed pretty anti-capitalism to me <cite>Cephalopods posted [p:976379533] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Outer Worlds seemed pretty anti-capitalism to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmnimonZwart 09/29/23 4:10:19 PM #21:	DipDipDiver posted... I never got the impression that Mass Effect was in love with capitalism, the series frequently highlights all the fucked up stuff spacefaring corporations are doing on other planets The very fact that space corporations who control enture planets exist at all is concerning. <cite>OmnimonZwart posted [p:976379667] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>DipDipDiver posted... </cite><quote>I never got the impression that Mass Effect was in love with capitalism, the series frequently highlights all the fucked up stuff spacefaring corporations are doing on other planets</quote>The very fact that space corporations who control enture planets exist at all is concerning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmnimonZwart 09/29/23 4:11:46 PM #22:	Maybe Halo does not explicitly mention capitalism, I was thinking mostly Mass Effect and Starfield to be honest. Basically I think we should bring back post-capitalist sci-fi. <cite>OmnimonZwart posted [p:976379688] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Maybe Halo does not explicitly mention capitalism, I was thinking mostly Mass Effect and Starfield to be honest. Basically I think we should bring back post-capitalist sci-fi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 09/29/23 4:18:15 PM #23:	I'm curious what would be different about a non capitalist Sci-fi game --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:976379781] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>I'm curious what would be different about a non capitalist Sci-fi game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PesticideDream 09/29/23 4:20:02 PM #24:	Video games need some sort of conflict, that's pretty much the whole point of them is to combat some sort of challenge for the player. A video game where you're just running around a perfect utopia without any major concerns would be pretty boring. <cite>PesticideDream posted [p:976379822] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Video games need some sort of conflict, that's pretty much the whole point of them is to combat some sort of challenge for the player. A video game where you're just running around a perfect utopia without any major concerns would be pretty boring. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 09/29/23 4:25:15 PM #25:	I can't imagine Halo having anything other than a WW2 style wartime economy where the entirety of society revolves around supporting the war effort. It might be some kind of state capitalism, but there has to be a degree of central planning with corporations subservient to the government because of the scale and stakes of the conflict humanity is engaged in. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:976379902] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>I can't imagine Halo having anything other than a WW2 style wartime economy where the entirety of society revolves around supporting the war effort. It might be some kind of state capitalism, but there has to be a degree of central planning with corporations subservient to the government because of the scale and stakes of the conflict humanity is engaged in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 09/29/23 4:28:03 PM #26:	YellowSUV posted... Because capitalism is an unfair system that creates conflict. It is easier to build an interesting world with inherit conflict in it compared to something more utopian. There's no such thing as a fair system irl, let alone one that would outperform capitalist ones, thrive and not totally collapse within a lifetime. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:976379950] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>Because capitalism is an unfair system that creates conflict. It is easier to build an interesting world with inherit conflict in it compared to something more utopian.</quote>There's no such thing as a fair system irl, let alone one that would outperform capitalist ones, thrive and not totally collapse within a lifetime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/23 4:35:31 PM #27:	OmnimonZwart posted... Halo Hell are you talking about, world goes into full militant lockdown --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:976380062] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>OmnimonZwart posted... </cite><quote>Halo</quote>Hell are you talking about, world goes into full militant lockdown </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/29/23 4:40:26 PM #28:	The Outer Worlds hates capitalism. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976380138] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>The Outer Worlds hates capitalism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xlr_big-coop 09/29/23 6:26:12 PM #30:	OmnimonZwart posted... These worlds extrapolate the shitty present into what should be a hopeful and wondrous future. Because a setting without issues would be kinda boring to deal with. What's there to accomplish then? --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:976381928] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>OmnimonZwart posted... </cite><quote>These worlds extrapolate the shitty present into what should be a hopeful and wondrous future. </quote>Because a setting without issues would be kinda boring to deal with. What's there to accomplish then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmnimonZwart 09/29/23 6:29:32 PM #31:	xlr_big-coop posted... Because a setting without issues would be kinda boring to deal with. What's there to accomplish then? They could make it so humans are near utopian, to give a sense of hope, but have conflict be between interactions between humans and other races with different systems. <cite>OmnimonZwart posted [p:976381992] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>xlr_big-coop posted... </cite><quote>Because a setting without issues would be kinda boring to deal with. What's there to accomplish then?</quote>They could make it so humans are near utopian, to give a sense of hope, but have conflict be between interactions between humans and other races with different systems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 09/29/23 7:35:25 PM #32:	OmnimonZwart posted... They could make it so humans are near utopian, to give a sense of hope, but have conflict be between interactions between humans and other races with different systems. Ironically, the reason we got utopian is because we had to come together to fight something else. The moment we win, it's back to infighting. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:976383082] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>OmnimonZwart posted... </cite><quote>They could make it so humans are near utopian, to give a sense of hope, but have conflict be between interactions between humans and other races with different systems.</quote>Ironically, the reason we got utopian is because we had to come together to fight something else. The moment we win, it's back to infighting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/29/23 7:43:29 PM #33:	Bass posted... We need some Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism in our games for sure. That sounds like a conservative's nightmare. Lmao. --- POLITICS IS MY RELIGION PS5, Switch, RTX 3080 12GB <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:976383201] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Bass posted... </cite><quote>We need some Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism in our games for sure.</quote>That sounds like a conservative's nightmare. Lmao. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 09/29/23 7:45:05 PM #34:	Everyone making Sci fi games watched Bladerunner and read books about mega corporations ruling the world. It's also just what would happen if you made a "realistic" sci fi society I guess --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:976383225] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Everyone making Sci fi games watched Bladerunner and read books about mega corporations ruling the world. It's also just what would happen if you made a "realistic" sci fi society I guess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trivialbeing 09/29/23 7:48:12 PM #35:	a capitalsm free utopia is literally impossible hence the term utopia <cite>trivialbeing posted [p:976383278] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>a capitalsm free utopia is literally impossible hence the term utopia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 09/29/23 10:38:17 PM #36:	Blue_Inigo posted... Everyone making Sci fi games watched Bladerunner and read books about mega corporations ruling the world. It's also just what would happen if you made a "realistic" sci fi society I guess Can't get more anti-capitalism then the cyberpunk genre. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976385970] in Why are sc... [t:80580729]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite><quote>Everyone making Sci fi games watched Bladerunner and read books about mega corporations ruling the world. It's also just what would happen if you made a "realistic" sci fi society I guess</quote>Can't get more anti-capitalism then the cyberpunk genre. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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