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CableZL
10/02/23 9:59:05 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBsN5tajMcY

New York AG Letitia James brought a civil fraud lawsuit against Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization and other companies in New York owned by them, and others. The state is alleging that they have been persistently committing fraud for years. Things that have happened in this case prior to today:
  • Ivanka Trump was dropped from the lawsuit by an appeals court
  • Trump's lawyers forgot to request a jury trial within 15 days of the lawsuit's filing, so it's a bench trial.
  • Judge Arthur Engoron ruled in the state's favor on the foundation of the case. There was overwhelming evidence of persistent fraud. The judge also ruled that the business certificates must be canceled. The prosecution and defendants have less than 10 days now to recommend up to 3 people to handle the dissolution of their companies.


There are still 6 allegations (I believe) from the lawsuit that need to be resolved via trial, so that process starts today.

Also, this is the relief the state is seeking:
  • $250,000,000 fine
  • Permanently ban Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Eric Trump from directing or officiating any company in the state of New York.
  • Ban the Trump Organization from doing real-estate business in the state of New York

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CableZL
10/02/23 10:11:37 AM
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(Trump speaking for about 10 minutes attacking the AG and the judge before he went into the courtroom) "If you're one of Trump's lawyers, what are you thinking right now?"

Shut the fuck up

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Irony
10/02/23 10:13:01 AM
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Trump's lawyers forgot to request a jury trial within 15 days of the lawsuit's filing, so it's a bench trial.

Lmao

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SaikyoStyle
10/02/23 10:13:18 AM
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Is Ivanka being prosecuted separately?

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Takuya_Lee
10/02/23 10:13:49 AM
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CableZL posted...
(Trump speaking for about 10 minutes attacking the AG and the judge before he went into the courtroom) "If you're one of Trump's lawyers, what are you thinking right now?"

Shut the fuck up

Or they aren't thinking anything because that gave them a heart attack.

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CableZL
10/02/23 10:13:58 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is Ivanka being prosecuted separately?
Nah, she's just out of this lawsuit. I can't remember the details of why she was dropped.

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Takuya_Lee
10/02/23 10:14:23 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
Is Ivanka being prosecuted separately?

She's not getting sued at all. She was dropped from the lawsuit.

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CableZL
10/02/23 10:19:36 AM
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So I guess the trial itself isn't gonna be televised... I thought this live stream was going to continue into the courtroom.

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ScazarMeltex
10/02/23 10:20:44 AM
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Imagine having lawyers so gucking bad that they forget to request a fucking jury trial.

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Tyranthraxus
10/02/23 10:21:36 AM
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CableZL posted...
Nah, she's just out of this lawsuit. I can't remember the details of why she was dropped.
Probably because all her business assets are overseas and blocking her shit from being sold in NYC isn't a matter of fraud.

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Dark_Moon
10/02/23 10:21:49 AM
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CableZL posted...
So I guess the trial itself isn't gonna be televised... I thought this live stream was going to continue into the courtroom.

I think the Georgia case is the only one allowing cameras in the courtroom, so far.

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UnsteadyOwl
10/02/23 10:23:09 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Imagine having lawyers so gucking bad that they forget to request a fucking jury trial.
Seems like that's what happens when you get a reputation for not paying your lawyers. Good lawyers aren't going to be willing to work for you anymore.

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Tyranthraxus
10/02/23 10:27:00 AM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
Seems like that's what happens when you get a reputation for not paying your lawyers. Good lawyers aren't going to be willing to work for you anymore.

Plenty of good lawyers have tried to help Trump and still try periodically when he hires new ones and they all ended up resigning because he never fucking listens to their recommendations.

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UnsteadyOwl
10/02/23 10:49:05 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Plenty of good lawyers have tried to help Trump and still try periodically when he hires new ones and they all ended up resigning because he never fucking listens to their recommendations.
Good point.

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CableZL
10/02/23 10:50:03 AM
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https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1708815227939160293

A thread from a reporter in the courtroom

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aarrgus
10/02/23 10:50:55 AM
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You wouldn't be having fun either if you had to sit next to the tiniest Frankenstein's monster.

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lilORANG
10/02/23 10:54:12 AM
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There are strategic reasons to have a bench trial.

But when Trump is the client it's gonna be nearly impossible to get a clean jury pool so it's probably wise to try and get some crazies on your panel.

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CableZL
10/02/23 10:58:19 AM
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lilORANG posted...
There are strategic reasons to have a bench trial.

But when Trump is the client it's gonna be nearly impossible to get a clean jury pool so it's probably wise to try and get some crazies on your panel.

Yeah, but in this case, Alina Habba just screwed up and didn't file the paperwork on time.

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CyborgSage00x0
10/02/23 11:08:13 AM
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Holy shit

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mystic_belmont
10/02/23 11:23:10 AM
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You have a bench trial if you think you are innocent.

You have a jury trial if you think you are guilty.

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TomClark
10/02/23 12:22:20 PM
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Am I reading this right that his defense is that he put a disclaimer on his financial details that said that they were full of shit, therefore he shouldn't get in trouble for them being full of shit?

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King_Rial
10/02/23 12:27:03 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
You have a bench trial if you think you are innocent.
Again, they just screwed up. This was completely unintentional.

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Block_that_Kick
10/02/23 12:27:26 PM
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TomClark posted...
Am I reading this right that his defense is that he put a disclaimer on his financial details that said that they were full of shit, therefore he shouldn't get in trouble for them being full of shit?

Hes trying to do what miracle cure product companies do. Claim specific cures and then have a tiny little disclaimer at the bottom saying these statements are not backed by the FDA.

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TomClark
10/02/23 12:40:08 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Hes trying to do what miracle cure product companies do. Claim specific cures and then have a tiny little disclaimer at the bottom saying these statements are not backed by the FDA.

What a knobhead.

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Heineken14
10/02/23 12:45:04 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/8/AAR77bAAE5Gu.jpg

Gambled on a fart and lost


It looks like he may have farted, but his butthole was clogged and all of it travelled up into the top of his head.

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AlCalavicci
10/02/23 12:48:04 PM
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Tag

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Block_that_Kick
10/02/23 12:58:16 PM
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Yes! Please follow through on this.

https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1708885229715255329

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ScarfForLife
10/02/23 1:06:23 PM
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Tag

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SiO4
10/02/23 1:06:28 PM
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CableZL posted...
So I guess the trial itself isn't gonna be televised... I thought this live stream was going to continue into the courtroom.


The Revolution will not be televised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJFhuOWgXg

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mystic_belmont
10/02/23 1:14:31 PM
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Trump will never testify, or if he does it's thousands of pleading the fifth.

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darkace77450
10/02/23 1:19:12 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Trump will never testify, or if he does it's thousands of pleading the fifth.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-deposed-ny-ag-civil-probe-business-practices-rcna42355

Former President Donald Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination Wednesday during a deposition before lawyers from New York Attorney General Letitia James' office in its probe into the Trump Organization's business practices.

The deposition lasted four hours, and the only question the former president answered was about his name, Trump attorney Ron Fischetti told NBC News.

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Foppe
10/02/23 1:23:50 PM
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Takuya_Lee
10/02/23 1:28:33 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-deposed-ny-ag-civil-probe-business-practices-rcna42355

I'm a bit surprised he didn't take the fifth on his own name too.

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Cemith
10/02/23 1:29:36 PM
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CableZL posted...
Permanently ban Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., and Eric Trump from directing or officiating any company in the state of New York.
Ban the Trump Organization from doing real-estate business in the state of New York

Hasn't this already happened with the Property Value scheme?

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CableZL
10/02/23 1:32:59 PM
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Cemith posted...
Hasn't this already happened with the Property Value scheme?

As it stands today, their current business certificates have been canceled. They could, in theory, be hired onto other companies in New York as directors or officers. (CEO, CIO, CTO, CFO, director of ____ type job titles). The state wants them banned from that stuff, too.

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SiO4
10/02/23 2:04:12 PM
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I don't know what this feed will lead to, but here we are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPBmWsomeg

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ZevLoveDOOM
10/02/23 2:06:38 PM
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is there a single day when this motherfucker isnt in court? seems like another day that ends in "y" for Trumpie and friends... lol
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CableZL
10/02/23 2:09:33 PM
#41:


ZevLoveDOOM posted...
is there a single day when this motherfucker isnt in court? seems like another day that ends in "y" for Trumpie and friends... lol

He's going to be in court for a significant portion of the next year, for sure. I think he's supposed to be in court for the 1st week of this trial, but he may not show up for the rest.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/0/AABjoOAAE5IU.png

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CableZL
10/02/23 2:14:59 PM
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It's also interesting how they'll step outside the courtroom and say whatever they want about the judge. Then when they step in the courtroom, they don't say anything of the sort.

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GranAures
10/02/23 2:18:23 PM
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CableZL posted...
It's also interesting how they'll step outside the courtroom and say whatever they want about the judge. Then when they step in the courtroom, they don't say anything of the sort.
Because Trump only has balls when he thinks he won't be punished.

So alpha.

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Block_that_Kick
10/02/23 2:46:16 PM
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Daily reminder that the rest of us would get in a shitload of trouble if we said the exact same
thing.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1708897731920445803

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CrimsonWaffle
10/02/23 2:47:56 PM
#45:


CableZL posted...
Trump's lawyers forgot to request a jury trial within 15 days of the lawsuit's filing, so it's a bench trial.

Trump:
https://youtu.be/kPhlAC1zfO4?si=8GaWynV8NhfT2G5g

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CableZL
10/02/23 2:57:12 PM
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https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/status/1708852548277346512

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CableZL
10/02/23 5:00:37 PM
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Trump is now saying it's unfair that he doesn't have a jury, lol

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darkace77450
10/02/23 5:02:11 PM
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CableZL posted...
Trump is now saying it's unfair that he doesn't have a jury, lol

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mystic_belmont
10/02/23 5:07:02 PM
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CableZL posted...
Trump is now saying it's unfair that he doesn't have a jury, lol

Blame your lawyers.

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1NfamousACE_2
10/02/23 5:07:45 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Daily reminder that the rest of us would get in a shitload of trouble if we said the exact same
thing.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1708897731920445803

He should be reprimanded publicly

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