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Incredible 10/05/23 12:59:01 AM #151: |
You wouldn't call Mizuki the most important character of Naruto just because told Naruto about the Shadow Clone scroll, which led to Naruto learning how to make clones and graduating from the academy in the first chapter. If Naruto doesn't graduate from the academy, then the rest of Naruto can't occur as it did. Too bad Mizuki never appears past the first chapter, shooting dead in the ass the stupid argument of doing something at the very start of the story makes you important for all of it.
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IfGodCouldDie 10/05/23 12:59:42 AM #152: |
Incredible posted...
If there were other people who made radars, then that means Bulma making a radar is insignificant. Because without Bulma, radars would still exist. IfGodCouldDie posted... Scotty doesn't realize that multiple discovery is a real world thing. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 1:01:59 AM #153: |
@IfGodCouldDie The point is that nothing in the story changes if Bulma doesn't make her radar. Therefore her making a radar is irrelevant and not an example of her being useful, which is what the discussion is about. Stop arguing about nothing.
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Enclave 10/05/23 2:00:10 AM #154: |
Incredible posted...
Still happened because other people would have been looking for the Dragon Balls and come for Goku's ball, prompting him to leave the mountains in search of the balls. Pilaf would have eventually showed up, Goku would have kicked his ass and that would have been the end of it until the Red Ribbon Army showed up at Gokus house and probably killed him. There would have been no grand adventure, no meeting Roshi, no meeting any of his friends. Bulma is absolutely critical to actually start Goku on his journey. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 12:05:34 PM #155: |
Enclave posted...
Pilaf would have eventually showed up, @Enclave And tricked Goku into helping him collect the Dragon Balls like Bulma did. There would have been a grand adventure, Goku would have met Roshi and the rest of his friends. Bulma is absolutely Useless and not needed to start anything, yes. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 12:33:48 PM #156: |
Incredible posted...
You wouldn't call Mizuki the most important character of Naruto just because told Naruto about the Shadow Clone scroll, which led to Naruto learning how to make clones and graduating from the academy in the first chapter. If Naruto doesn't graduate from the academy, then the rest of Naruto can't occur as it did. Too bad Mizuki never appears past the first chapter, shooting dead in the ass the stupid argument that if you do something at the very start of a story, then you're important for all of it. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/05/23 12:40:49 PM #157: |
Incredible posted...
Nothing. You know who's important in-universe? Kami for making the Dragon Balls. Guru for making the Namekian Dragon Balls. Zalama for making the Super Dragon Balls. Without the actual creators of the Dragon Balls, then events in the story couldn't have played out the way they did in-universe This is like saying Bulma is useful because she gave birth to Trunks. And without Trunks the story couldn't have played out the way it did. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 12:44:27 PM #158: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
This is like saying Bulma is useful because she gave birth to Trunks. Nah, because Trunks is a jobber and Vegeta could have just knocked up someone else if he felt like it. You could have Vegeta knocking up Bulma's mom and nothing in the story actually changes. And I specified in-universe, which isn't actually important at all lol. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MyMainAccount 10/05/23 12:47:47 PM #159: |
Enclave posted...
Pilaf would have eventually showed up, Goku would have kicked his ass and that would have been the end of it until the Red Ribbon Army showed up at Gokus house and probably killed him.If you think about it that's not even guaranteed. He beat the Pilaf robots easily, but that's a Goku who has trained with Roshi and Korin and gone on multiple adventures. Maybe Goku who had just lived in the woods and only gotten training from Grandpa Gohan would have died. --- My Real Blog https://veryrealwow.wixsite.com/website Send a PM with questions and I will reply on my blog. If desired, request a pseudonym. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sorozone 10/05/23 12:48:51 PM #160: |
EZ Dub for Bulma.
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Incredible 10/05/23 12:49:33 PM #161: |
Pilaf hadn't made robots that strong in the Pilaf arc
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MyMainAccount 10/05/23 12:53:31 PM #162: |
Incredible posted...
Pilaf hadn't made robots that strong in the Pilaf arcHad he not? There was a robot Shu was in to collect the dragon ball and we never saw it fight. Not did we see his whole armory. He did build it while specifically talking about a plan to grab his tail, so I'll concede that's possible he built it in response to Goku beating them up. Then my question is what stops him from doing so after the first time Goku chases him off? --- My Real Blog https://veryrealwow.wixsite.com/website Send a PM with questions and I will reply on my blog. If desired, request a pseudonym. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 12:55:54 PM #163: |
MyMainAccount posted...
Then my question is what stops him for making so after the first time Goku chases him off? What's stopping Pilaf from just getting his ass kicked and surrendering like Bulma did after Goku totaled her car? Right, nothing. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/05/23 1:30:50 PM #164: |
Incredible posted...
Nah, because Trunks is a jobber and Vegeta could have just knocked up someone else if he felt like it. You could have Vegeta knocking up Bulma's mom and nothing in the story actually changes.So why couldn't you just have someone else create the dragon balls? Why not Dende? What makes Kami so important? Dude does literally even less shit than Bulma. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 1:35:04 PM #165: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
So why couldn't you just have someone else create the dragon balls? Why couldn't you just have someone else create the portable Dragon Radar by that logic lol Why not Dende? Dende can make Dragon Balls. That's why he became Kami. Tyranthraxus posted... What makes Kami so important? Y'all are saying that Bulma's important because she made the Dragon Radar, so in that case, Kami is more important because he made the Dragon Balls. Tyranthraxus posted... Dude does literally even less s*** than Bulma. More than Bulma. Making the Dragon Balls to give humankind hope > making a radar to abuse the Dragon Balls --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/05/23 1:41:25 PM #166: |
Incredible posted...
Why couldn't you just have someone else create the portable Dragon Radar by that logic lolBecause if you give someone else like Goku or Yamcha or even Yajirobe enough brainpower to make the dragon radar the story completely changes. The vast majority of the story happens because people with the power to fight are dumb as bricks and it's like the main reason toriyama benched Gohan. He was too smart to also be mentally competent. And he wasn't even close to how smart Bulma was. Incredible posted... Y'all are saying that Bulma's important because she made the Dragon Radar, so in that case, Kami is more important because he made the Dragon Balls. No I'm saying she's important because she's Trunk's mom. Something Kami definitely can't do. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Red_XIV 10/05/23 1:42:34 PM #167: |
Incredible posted...
Bulma, on the other hand, was just another dumb selfish mortal who sought to abuse the Dragon Balls for her own worthless desires.And people abusing the Dragon Balls for their own worthless desires is a core part of the story, so... --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/05/23 1:44:27 PM #168: |
Red_XIV posted...
And people abusing the Dragon Balls for their own worthless desires is a core part of the story, so... Yeah. Like fuckin Garlic Jr had wholesome plans for the dragon balls or something. The dragon balls are useless macguffins that only show up once near the end of a story arc with the main purpose of nullifying any consequences of that story arc. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 10/05/23 1:47:30 PM #169: |
Incredible posted...
@Enclave And tricked Goku into helping him collect the Dragon Balls like Bulma did. There would have been a grand adventure, Goku would have met Roshi and the rest of his friends. I REALLY doubt Pilaf would have tricked Goku into helping him. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 10/05/23 1:51:21 PM #170: |
You can tell Scotty only watched Z because he insists "the series is only about fighting" as if a lot of the original series wasn't an adventure/treasure hunt first and foremost ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 10/05/23 1:54:29 PM #171: |
Enclave posted... I REALLY doubt Pilaf would have tricked Goku into helping him.And even if he did, why would Pilaf introduce Goku to Roshi? The circumstances that led to that meeting, and Roshi accepting Goku as a student, would have never happened literally because Bulma isn't involved. At best they go attack Roshi to get his Dragon Ball, and the old man beats them, since he's still stronger than Goku/Pilaf at this point and has no good will towards them because Goku never met and helped Turtle. Scotty really doesn't understand how cause and effect works. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 1:54:43 PM #172: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Because if you give someone else like Goku or Yamcha or even Yajirobe enough brainpower to make the dragon radar the story completely changes. And so if you give someone else like Goku or Yamcha or even Yajirobe the magical power to make the Dragon Balls, the story completely changes. The story definitely wouldn't change if you just had Bulma's dad or Pilaf's men make the portable radar. Funnily enough, though, you're wrong that Goku couldn't have made it because in one of Toriyama's first prototypes for the series, the character who evolved into Goku was originally a genius scientist. Despite that, this one-shot had many of the same story beats as the first chapter of DB. Tyranthraxus posted... No I'm saying she's important because she's Trunk's mom. She didn't need to be Trunks's mom, Trunks didn't need to be in the story and you're not important just because your son is. Something Kami definitely can't do. *Snort* Just have Kami give birth to a Namekian who travels back in time. Red_XIV posted... And people abusing the Dragon Balls for their own worthless desires is a core part of the story You're not useful if you're part of the problem. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 2:02:14 PM #173: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The dragon balls are useless macguffins that only show up once near the end of a story arc with the main purpose of nullifying any consequences of that story arc. If the Dragon Balls are useless, then so is the Dragon Radar by extension. Enclave posted... I REALLY doubt Pilaf would have tricked Goku into helping him. It's alright to be in denial. You're still wrong, though. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/05/23 2:47:52 PM #174: |
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You're not useful if you're part of the problem.Ok then literally the only useful person in the entire universe is King Kai --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paragon21XX 10/05/23 2:52:16 PM #175: |
Scotty is just jealous that a fictional character has proven to be more useful in the real world than he has ever been.
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Murphiroth 10/05/23 3:05:57 PM #176: |
Paragon21XX posted... Scotty is just jealous that a fictional character has proven to be more useful in the real world than he has ever been. This. It's why he continually melts down over her mere existence. If anyone ever needed to touch grass, maybe roll around in it for a while just to be sure, it's Scotty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 10/05/23 4:33:50 PM #177: |
Incredible posted...
It's alright to be in denial. You're still wrong, though. No, not in denial, just been a fan of Dragon Ball since the show originally aired in North America. Bulma is absolutely critical to the plot and the fact that you think she isn't just makes me think you haven't actually read or watched the original Dragon Ball. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 4:45:54 PM #178: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Ok then literally the only useful person in the entire universe is King Kai He's definitely more important than Bulma lol Enclave posted... No, not in denial Nah, you are. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 10/05/23 5:55:04 PM #179: |
Enclave posted...
No, not in denial, just been a fan of Dragon Ball since the show originally aired in North America. Bulma is absolutely critical to the plot and the fact that you think she isn't just makes me think you haven't actually read or watched the original Dragon Ball.That's exactly what it is. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 5:58:09 PM #180: |
dave_is_slick posted...
That's exactly what it is. Nah, Bulma is just useless. --- W fam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Incredible 10/05/23 10:40:18 PM #181: |
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