Current Events > Do you consider Richard Nixon to be a bottom 5 president ever?

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GranTurismo 10/07/23 8:42:16 AM #1:	You consider him to be worse than W and trump? iirc in most major lists of best presidents by major historians he is usually lower than both. Have you ever seen any of those prez rankings? IIrc obama is usually ranked higher than clinton in most rankings....don't remember that well, it's been a while since i last read the rankings. <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976524721] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>You consider him to be worse than W and trump? iirc in most major lists of best presidents by major historians he is usually lower than both. Have you ever seen any of those prez rankings? IIrc obama is usually ranked higher than clinton in most rankings....don't remember that well, it's been a while since i last read the rankings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JebronLames 10/07/23 8:52:22 AM #2:	not sure --- "I used to be a people person, then people ruined it" <cite>JebronLames posted [p:976524803] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>not sure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazGT6 10/07/23 9:05:32 AM #3:	yeah sure <cite>KazGT6 posted [p:976524958] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>yeah sure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 10/07/23 9:10:13 AM #4:	He's definitely trash, but he did accomplish a few good things, and unlike one certain dumpster dotard, was able to act like a decent human being. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:976525014] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>He's definitely trash, but he did accomplish a few good things, and unlike one certain dumpster dotard, was able to act like a decent human being. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ANort175 10/07/23 9:13:34 AM #5:	He sabotaged the peace talks with Vietnam so he could get elected, fuck him. --- Are we the baddies? <cite>ANort175 posted [p:976525052] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>He sabotaged the peace talks with Vietnam so he could get elected, fuck him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 10/07/23 9:14:06 AM #6:	ANort175 posted... He sabotaged the peace talks with Vietnam so he could get elected, fuck him. Oh, did not read much about this. worse than bush jr. and trump? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976525059] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>ANort175 posted... </cite><quote>He sabotaged the peace talks with Vietnam so he could get elected, fuck him.</quote>Oh, did not read much about this. worse than bush jr. and trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 10/07/23 10:18:08 AM #7:	yeah --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:976525683] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>yeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 10/07/23 10:18:57 AM #8:	in the modern era sure. I don't know enough about most of the older presidents to rate him compared to every president overall --- https://i.imgur.com/6cPXvLN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hVC4i6j.jpg <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:976525693] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>in the modern era sure. I don't know enough about most of the older presidents to rate him compared to every president overall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/07/23 10:20:00 AM #9:	Nah. He was crooked as shit but he wasn't actually a terrible leader. --- Let's all please just get along. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:976525705] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Nah. He was crooked as shit but he wasn't actually a terrible leader. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 10/07/23 10:20:59 AM #10:	There have been multiple rankings of the best presidents. Put out by many reputable historians. Should check it out --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:976525713] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>There have been multiple rankings of the best presidents. Put out by many reputable historians. Should check it out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 10/07/23 10:23:13 AM #11:	Nah. The 19th century was full of duds, Nixon was probably decent at the job itself (being an Eisenhower VP). He's just a snake and a bad person https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall The bottom 5 are literal Confederate abettors/traitors + Trump (~~I know the comment here, facts lmao~~) --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ Free Games Board... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:976525737] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Nah. The 19th century was full of duds, Nixon was probably decent at the job itself (being an Eisenhower VP). He's just a snake and a bad personhttps://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overallThe bottom 5 are literal Confederate abettors/traitors + Trump (I know the comment here, facts lmao) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 10/07/23 10:25:00 AM #12:	I would really need to read what the pros and cons are of every President first. I know Trump is dead last. All he accomplished was dividing the nation over stupidity and mega tax cuts for the rich. I guess Space Force if you want to include that. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:976525758] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>I would really need to read what the pros and cons are of every President first. I know Trump is dead last. All he accomplished was dividing the nation over stupidity and mega tax cuts for the rich. I guess Space Force if you want to include that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/07/23 10:29:33 AM #13:	Possibly. But it's sadly pretty competitive at the bottom of the list for presidents. Jackson, Nixon, Reagan, GWB, Trump, a bunch of Confederate sympathizers and appeasers throughout the mid-1800's... It's genuinely a very competitive race for the "worst 5" <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976525809] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Possibly.But it's sadly pretty competitive at the bottom of the list for presidents.Jackson, Nixon, Reagan, GWB, Trump, a bunch of Confederate sympathizers and appeasers throughout the mid-1800's...It's genuinely a very competitive race for the "worst 5"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 10/07/23 10:31:15 AM #14:	streamofthesky posted... Possibly. But it's sadly pretty competitive at the bottom of the list for presidents. Jackson, Nixon, Reagan, GWB, Trump, a bunch of Confederate sympathizers and appeasers throughout the mid-1800's... It's genuinely a very competitive race for the "worst 5" yah maybe most presidents have been pretty bad <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976525830] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>Possibly.But it's sadly pretty competitive at the bottom of the list for presidents.Jackson, Nixon, Reagan, GWB, Trump, a bunch of Confederate sympathizers and appeasers throughout the mid-1800's...It's genuinely a very competitive race for the "worst 5"</quote>yah maybe most presidents have been pretty bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slaya4 10/07/23 10:35:33 AM #15:	He's definitely not bottom 5 but he is a trash tier President --- Am I going too hard? <cite>Slaya4 posted [p:976525875] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>He's definitely not bottom 5 but he is a trash tier President </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 10/07/23 10:42:51 AM #16:	GranTurismo posted... You consider him to be worse than W and trump? Nope. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:976525950] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>You consider him to be worse than W and trump?</quote>Nope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 10/07/23 10:54:24 AM #17:	Probably just outside of that --- -J2K Currently Streaming: Homeland, Travelers, Dark, Ahsoka, Jack Ryan, ST: Lower Dekcs <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:976526100] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Probably just outside of that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UT1999 10/07/23 11:51:23 PM #18:	bump --- "Sometimes they even attack wounded foxes" <cite>UT1999 posted [p:976538117] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 10/07/23 11:59:23 PM #19:	Middle of the road. Somewhere in the 20's --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:976538177] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Middle of the road. Somewhere in the 20's </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/08/23 12:02:47 AM #20:	Destroying the gold standard ended up being catastrophic. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:976538210] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Destroying the gold standard ended up being catastrophic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DerWillZurMacht 10/08/23 1:16:48 AM #21:	Nope. 1. Donald Jenius Trump. The DOTARDUS himself. 2. Ronald Reagan. The curse of the 20th Century, destroying the 21st century. 3. George Dumbya Bush. Vice-DOTARDUS and war criminal. 4. George Washington. The very cause of the calamity known as the United States of America. Without him this curse of a country wouldn't even exist. 5. Andrew Jackson. The bane of the rightful people of this country. <cite>DerWillZurMacht posted [p:976539036] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Nope.1. Donald Jenius Trump. The DOTARDUS himself.2. Ronald Reagan. The curse of the 20th Century, destroying the 21st century.3. George Dumbya Bush. Vice-DOTARDUS and war criminal.4. George Washington. The very cause of the calamity known as the United States of America. Without him this curse of a country wouldn't even exist.5. Andrew Jackson. The bane of the rightful people of this country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 10/08/23 1:19:57 AM #22:	Nixon has to be rolling in his grave over how easily he could get away with the shit he did with how his party is today. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:976539068] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Nixon has to be rolling in his grave over how easily he could get away with the shit he did with how his party is today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
invertedlegdrop 10/08/23 1:22:21 AM #23:	Ignoring the trolls, Nixon did several good things like the EPA, the 26th amendment, ending the Vietnam War, suspending the draft, talking to China,etc Then you have his mistakes like his paranoia, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia, and of course Watergate... Heck he passed more progressive measures then most liberal lawmakers...but Nixon was his own worst enemy... Take out Watergate and you could argue his is an upper-tier president... At best though now he is a mid-tier president at worst he's in the bottom 3rd... --- Political correctness is the fascism of the 90s-Roger Ebert I don't have pet peeves, I have major psychotic ******* hatreds-George Carlin <cite>invertedlegdrop posted [p:976539094] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Ignoring the trolls, Nixon did several good things like the EPA, the 26th amendment, ending the Vietnam War, suspending the draft, talking to China,etcThen you have his mistakes like his paranoia, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia, and of course Watergate...Heck he passed more progressive measures then most liberal lawmakers...but Nixon was his own worst enemy...Take out Watergate and you could argue his is an upper-tier president...At best though now he is a mid-tier president at worst he's in the bottom 3rd... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigtiggie23 10/08/23 2:15:55 AM #24:	My US History teacher in high school actually felt that Nixon was a top 5 President. --- Every day I wake up and promise I will be nice to everyone, then I deal with people at work and remember why that will never happen. <cite>bigtiggie23 posted [p:976539571] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>My US History teacher in high school actually felt that Nixon was a top 5 President. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 10/08/23 2:18:39 AM #25:	Thompson posted... was able to act like a decent human being. Lol --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:976539595] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite><quote>was able to act like a decent human being.</quote>Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 10/08/23 4:58:28 AM #26:	Doe posted... Lol I saw a clip some time ago of Nixon expressing condolences to victims of a tragedy. So even if he completely faked it, he at least acted like he cared. --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:976540572] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite><quote>Lol</quote>I saw a clip some time ago of Nixon expressing condolences to victims of a tragedy. So even if he completely faked it, he at least acted like he cared. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 10/08/23 5:07:12 AM #27:	Thompson posted... I saw a clip some time ago of Nixon expressing condolences to victims of a tragedy. So even if he completely faked it, he at least acted like he cared. Yeah. Some assholes at least express empathy, even if it's merely for pragmatic purposes. Could you see Trump doing that? Without making it about himself? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:976540612] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Thompson posted... </cite><quote>I saw a clip some time ago of Nixon expressing condolences to victims of a tragedy. So even if he completely faked it, he at least acted like he cared.</quote>Yeah. Some assholes at least express empathy, even if it's merely for pragmatic purposes.Could you see Trump doing that? Without making it about himself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ubergeneral3 10/08/23 3:31:40 PM #28:	TroutPaste posted... Nah. The 19th century was full of duds, Nixon was probably decent at the job itself (being an Eisenhower VP). He's just a snake and a bad person https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall The bottom 5 are literal Confederate abettors/traitors + Trump (~~I know the comment here, facts lmao~~) trash list Regan is 9th lol. Did the billionares tell you to say that? --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich <cite>Ubergeneral3 posted [p:976546967] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>TroutPaste posted... </cite><quote>Nah. The 19th century was full of duds, Nixon was probably decent at the job itself (being an Eisenhower VP). He's just a snake and a bad personhttps://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overallThe bottom 5 are literal Confederate abettors/traitors + Trump (I know the comment here, facts lmao)</quote>trash listRegan is 9th lol. Did the billionares tell you to say that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 10/08/23 3:33:39 PM #29:	I'd have to think Thomas Jefferson Andrew Jackson Rutherford B. Hayes Ronald Reagan Donald Trump Nah, but give me five more spots and he'd make the cut. --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976546999] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>I'd have to thinkThomas JeffersonAndrew JacksonRutherford B. HayesRonald ReaganDonald TrumpNah, but give me five more spots and he'd make the cut. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/08/23 3:35:23 PM #30:	GranTurismo posted... Oh, did not read much about this. worse than bush jr. and trump? @GranTurismo Yep. He wanted to be able to run as the peace candidate. He could not do so if Johnson ended the war. https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/vietnam-treason-u-s-troops-died-candidate-used-war-become-president/ --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:976547037] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>Oh, did not read much about this. worse than bush jr. and trump?</quote>@GranTurismo Yep. He wanted to be able to run as the peace candidate. He could not do so if Johnson ended the war.https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syndicated/vietnam-treason-u-s-troops-died-candidate-used-war-become-president/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C-zom 10/08/23 3:35:40 PM #31:	Nixon himself was close to a firewall'd patsy. Kissinger called most of the shots diplomatically and is imo the most evil, vile, disgusting human beings to walk the earth and is still fucking alive. By proxy that drops Nixon into the bottom 10 for me, at least. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg <cite>C-zom posted [p:976547043] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Nixon himself was close to a firewall'd patsy. Kissinger called most of the shots diplomatically and is imo the most evil, vile, disgusting human beings to walk the earth and is still fucking alive. By proxy that drops Nixon into the bottom 10 for me, at least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 10/08/23 3:45:11 PM #32:	invertedlegdrop posted... Ignoring the trolls, Nixon did several good things like the EPA, the 26th amendment, ending the Vietnam War, suspending the draft, talking to China,etc Then you have his mistakes like his paranoia, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia, and of course Watergate... Heck he passed more progressive measures then most liberal lawmakers...but Nixon was his own worst enemy... Take out Watergate and you could argue his is an upper-tier president... At best though now he is a mid-tier president at worst he's in the bottom 3rd... what about that college shooting? Wasn't that sorta his fault too? Where they were even trying to cover it up by cutting all communication? <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:976547234] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>invertedlegdrop posted... </cite><quote>Ignoring the trolls, Nixon did several good things like the EPA, the 26th amendment, ending the Vietnam War, suspending the draft, talking to China,etcThen you have his mistakes like his paranoia, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia, and of course Watergate...Heck he passed more progressive measures then most liberal lawmakers...but Nixon was his own worst enemy...Take out Watergate and you could argue his is an upper-tier president...At best though now he is a mid-tier president at worst he's in the bottom 3rd...</quote>what about that college shooting? Wasn't that sorta his fault too? Where they were even trying to cover it up by cutting all communication?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 10/08/23 3:53:48 PM #33:	richard nixon was a huge ***** who did bad things but a pretty decisive president on a number of matters my bottom five in no particular order: buchanan wilson taylor (not bad per se, but basically took office and then died) (andrew) johnson idk, gwb maybe --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:976547388] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>richard nixon was a huge ***** who did bad things but a pretty decisive president on a number of mattersmy bottom five in no particular order:buchananwilsontaylor (not bad per se, but basically took office and then died)(andrew) johnsonidk, gwb maybe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 10/08/23 3:57:40 PM #34:	Rutherford B. Hayes doesn't get enough hate for all the damage he's done to this country --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976547479] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Rutherford B. Hayes doesn't get enough hate for all the damage he's done to this country </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 10/08/23 3:58:11 PM #35:	SayHeyyShohei posted... Rutherford B. Hayes doesn't get enough hate for all the damage he's done to this country What did he do? He isn't a very famous prez iirc <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976547488] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>SayHeyyShohei posted... </cite><quote>Rutherford B. Hayes doesn't get enough hate for all the damage he's done to this country</quote>What did he do? He isn't a very famous prez iirc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 10/08/23 3:59:51 PM #36:	GranTurismo posted... What did he do? He isn't a very famous prez iirc Ended reconstruction, funded the police institution, reversed the decision to keep former confederates out of office. --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976547522] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>What did he do? He isn't a very famous prez iirc</quote>Ended reconstruction, funded the police institution, reversed the decision to keep former confederates out of office. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbsolutelyNoOne 10/08/23 4:23:06 PM #37:	immediate thoughts on a bottom 5 is Buchanan / Trump / Andrew Johnson / Hayes / GWB besides the Republicans after Nixon (except for H.W. Bush, and also Ford who I forget even existed apparently), as mentioned the 1800s is littered with absolute garbage. Nixon probably has a case for bottom 10 but as alluded to he did something that was actually good once in a while. --- Born to lose, live to win! <cite>AbsolutelyNoOne posted [p:976547948] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>immediate thoughts on a bottom 5 is Buchanan / Trump / Andrew Johnson / Hayes / GWBbesides the Republicans after Nixon (except for H.W. Bush, and also Ford who I forget even existed apparently), as mentioned the 1800s is littered with absolute garbage. Nixon probably has a case for bottom 10 but as alluded to he did something that was actually good once in a while. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Snake07 10/08/23 4:35:06 PM #38:	Nixon wasnt that bad. He just severely undermined the office with how he handled watergate. Notice I said with how he handled watergate. Cause that kind of shit happens all the time, before and since Nixon. i wouldnt put him in worst 5. Off the top of my head Johnson, Wilson, Harding, Buchanan and Trump are all far worse. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid_Snake07 posted [p:976548144] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>Nixon wasnt that bad. He just severely undermined the office with how he handled watergate. Notice I said with how he handled watergate. Cause that kind of shit happens all the time, before and since Nixon. i wouldnt put him in worst 5. Off the top of my head Johnson, Wilson, Harding, Buchanan and Trump are all far worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 10/08/23 4:37:06 PM #39:	AbsolutelyNoOne posted... immediate thoughts on a bottom 5 is Buchanan / Trump / Andrew Johnson / Hayes / GWB besides the Republicans after Nixon (except for H.W. Bush, and also Ford who I forget even existed apparently), as mentioned the 1800s is littered with absolute garbage. Nixon probably has a case for bottom 10 but as alluded to he did something that was actually good once in a while. Can't remember, Buchanan was right before civil war and Johnson right after? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:976548186] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>AbsolutelyNoOne posted... </cite><quote>immediate thoughts on a bottom 5 is Buchanan / Trump / Andrew Johnson / Hayes / GWBbesides the Republicans after Nixon (except for H.W. Bush, and also Ford who I forget even existed apparently), as mentioned the 1800s is littered with absolute garbage. Nixon probably has a case for bottom 10 but as alluded to he did something that was actually good once in a while.</quote>Can't remember, Buchanan was right before civil war and Johnson right after?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Justin2Krelian 10/10/23 6:26:25 PM #40:	invertedlegdrop posted... Ignoring the trolls, Nixon did several good things like the EPA, the 26th amendment, ending the Vietnam War, suspending the draft, talking to China,etc Then you have his mistakes like his paranoia, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia, and of course Watergate... Kind of an odd way to start off your post, but all right... --- -J2K Currently Streaming: Homeland, Travelers, Dark, Ahsoka, Jack Ryan, ST: Lower Dekcs <cite>Justin2Krelian posted [p:976585659] in Do you con... [t:80587483]...</cite> <quote>invertedlegdrop posted... </cite><quote>Ignoring the trolls, Nixon did several good things like the EPA, the 26th amendment, ending the Vietnam War, suspending the draft, talking to China,etcThen you have his mistakes like his paranoia, the bombings of Laos and Cambodia, and of course Watergate...</quote>Kind of an odd way to start off your post, but all right... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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