Current Events > 12-Year-Old Convicted of Using AR-Style Rifle to Kill Fast Food Worker

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-old-texas-boy-convicted-185609995.html

Dear God, what is wrong with Texas?

I remember this. The victim wasn't even talking to the boy. The boy was hanging out for some reason with the adult the victim was telling to leave. I'm sure the victim never expected the 12 year old to pull out a gun

Life in prison

Im sure nothing could have been done to prevent this.

Typical day in Texas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC5uJbX2vVA

Parents should see time too. Most states do have laws regarding safely storing weapons away from children.

Expected Texas.

Got Texas.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Parents should see time too. Most states do have laws regarding safely storing weapons away from children.

12 year olds can probably open carry in Texas.

Tried as a child or as an adult?

Starks posted...

Tried as a child or as an adult?

Its Texas.

Nobody should be able to defend themselves bc of this one dangerously irresponsible individual

Lordgold666 posted...

Nobody should be able to defend themselves bc of this one dangerously irresponsible individual

You forgot your /s tag there, chief.

Lordgold666 posted...

Nobody should be able to defend themselves bc of this one dangerously irresponsible individual

What situation would you need to AR to defend yourself.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

Parents should see time too. Most states do have laws regarding safely storing weapons away from children.

he was with his uncle, not the parents. The uncle was charged as well. Still leaving a gun out in the open like that was dangerous to begin with

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/9/AAPV5JAAEbhd.jpg

texanfan27 posted...

he was with his uncle, not the parents. The uncle was charged as well. Still leaving a gun out in the open like that was dangerous to begin with

Ok. Similar enough. Guardian like figure that allowed them access to the gun either willingly or through negligence

cjsdowg posted...

What situation would you need to AR to defend yourself.

Attending a demonstration you violently disagree with and starting a fight would be one.

cjsdowg posted...

What situation would you need to AR to defend yourself.

a home invasion with multiple attackers

i know, those type of things could NEVER happen and youre just INCREASING THE ODDS of getting shot. Ive heard it all before

cjsdowg posted...

What situation would you need to AR to defend yourself.

2A'ers think their AR-15 is going to defend them against a government that has fighter jets, smart missiles, rockets, long-range sniper rifles, tanks, etc.

yemmy posted...

a home invasion with multiple attackers

i know, those type of things could NEVER happen

Then why use it as a justification if you already know it's bullshit?

TyVulpine posted...

2A'ers think their AR-15 is going to defend them against a government that has fighter jets, smart missiles, rockets, long-range sniper rifles, tanks, etc.

To play devils advocate the government would be incredibly stupid to use all that against its own populace. It would just make them a clear villain on the world stage. Doesn't help they already ain't liked that much.

As long as we can fight back the fact the odds are stacked against us ain't as important. Cause they ain't gonna use full force. I mean they don't even go full force against countries we clearly define as the enemy.

They stop pulling punches against their own citizens and I'd bet money you'd have other countries stepping in. Rather ir be to help or to take advantage of the divide.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

To play devils advocate the government would be incredibly stupid to use all that against its own populace. It would just make them a clear villain on the world stage. Doesn't help they already ain't liked that much.

As long as we can fight back the fact the odds are stacked against us ain't as important. Cause they ain't gonna use full force. I mean they don't even go full force against countries we clearly define as the enemy.

They stop pulling punches against their own citizens and I'd bet money you'd have other countries stepping in. Rather ir be to help or to take advantage of the divide.

2A fanatics always talk about their guns "protecting them from the government" yet are strangely silent about actual tyrannical practices such as gerrymandering, voter suppression and fraud, book banning and even attempts to usurp a fair election.

They're full of shit.

Dark_Arbron posted...

2A fanatics always talk about their guns "protecting them from the government" yet are strangely silent about actual tyrannical practices such as gerrymandering, voter suppression, election fraud, book banning and even outright insurrection.

They're full of shit.

They only think of actual warfare type scenarios . Despite the fuck ups of our country most of us live comfortably enough.they are thinking the government having the military marching into our streets and forcibly oppressing us. Nobody I guess wants to start a ruckus over a slow decline.

Well there was the han 6th attack. But they didn't really use guns iirc.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

To play devils advocate the government would be incredibly stupid to use all that against its own populace. It would just make them a clear villain on the world stage. Doesn't help they already ain't liked that much.

As long as we can fight back the fact the odds are stacked against us ain't as important. Cause they ain't gonna use full force. I mean they don't even go full force against countries we clearly define as the enemy.

They stop pulling punches against their own citizens and I'd bet money you'd have other countries stepping in. Rather ir be to help or to take advantage of the divide.

all they would even have to do is drive a couple APCs through neighborhoods and shred all the houses with machine guns.

its illegal to own weapons that would actually be effective against the military

Starks posted...

Tried as a child or as an adult?

Pretty sure tried as a child. You'll notice that they never posted the kid's name. They need good gun carrying Samaritans out on the streets to protect themselves from people minding their own business. A 32-year-old fast food worker is just collateral damage.

thronedfire2 posted...

all they would even have to do is drive a couple APCs through neighborhoods and shred all the houses with machine guns.

its illegal to own weapons that would actually be effective against the military

.I'm saying they don't wanna do that. Cause it would look Hella bad. If we had no defense we'd just have to do as we are told. Maybe Europe has decent governments that won't take advantage Ike that but do you really trust the American government that much?

Dark_Arbron posted...

Then why use it as a justification if you already know it's bullshit?

im sorry that you didnt pick up on the obvious sarcasm. Home invasions absolutely DO happen and of course you increase statistics of dangerous things when you introduce dangerous things to your life. Like Bill Burr said, wtf you think Im gonna shower with an ar-15? If you get a pool in your backyard you increase your odds of drowning. You buy a car you increase your odds of dying in a traffic accident

thronedfire2 posted...

all they would even have to do is drive a couple APCs through neighborhoods and shred all the houses with machine guns.

its illegal to own weapons that would actually be effective against the military

military genius here thronedfire2 illustrating how the US would handle a civil uprising

Wtf Texas get your shit together.

yemmy posted...

im sorry that you didnt pick up on the obvious sarcasm. Home invasions absolutely DO happen and of course you increase statistics of dangerous things when you introduce dangerous things to your life. Like Bill Burr said, wtf you think Im gonna shower with an ar-15? If you get a pool in your backyard you increase your odds of drowning. You buy a car you increase your odds of dying in a traffic accident

A car gets you places and enhances your life. A pool is a great social way to exercise and relax. Those have an associated risk.

Your argument is guns make people safer....while increasing their chances of dying to gunfire. That's not safer. Dying isn't very safe.

yemmy posted...

military genius here thronedfire2 illustrating how the US would handle a civil uprising

Just a tip, it's better off not to try to insult someone's intelligence when you yourself have no response. It doesn't make the other guy look like the dumb one.

yemmy posted...

Home invasions absolutely DO happen

They do. You stipulated "with multiple attackers." Real life isn't John Wick.

The bottom line is that the rest of the developed world does just fine without automatic weapons everywhere. Meanwhile the US has an inexcusable number of gun-related deaths. "Nothing can be done," says only country where this happens.

I support civilian gun ownership. But automatic weapons aren't necessary.

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...

A car gets you places and enhances your life. A pool is a great social way to exercise and relax. Those have an associated risk.

Your argument is guns make people safer....while increasing their chances of dying to gunfire. That's not safer. Dying isn't very safe.

Just a tip, it's better off not to try to insult someone's intelligence when you yourself have no response. It doesn't make the other guy look like the dumb one.

just a tip, I dont give a fuck what some dude thinks that actually thinks US troops are gonna Swiss cheese houses lol

and what if my ar-15 is a source of socializing, relaxing, and exercising(it absolutely is)? Is that justification enough to own one with the associated risk?

also funny thing about statistics, you dont know that where I live is more or less dangerous than someone else where home invasions happen. Statistics are taken from gated communities as well as the projects and then applied as a blanket. So you have no idea the risk vs reward of me having a rifle other than a stupid ass national statistic that includes the suburban crime free neighborhoods that most of CE obviously resides

Dark_Arbron posted...

They do. You stipulated "with multiple attackers." Real life isn't John Wick.

The bottom line is that the rest of the developed world does just fine without automatic weapons everywhere. Meanwhile the US has an inexcusable number of gun-related deaths. "Nothing can be done," says only country where this happens.

I support civilian gun ownership. But automatic weapons aren't necessary.

what is an automatic weapon? Is an ar-15 an automatic weapon?

and yes multiple attacker home invasions are on the rise. It isnt my fault you have your head in the sand. Hell you just called an AR-15 an automatic weapon lol.

this is what happens when I get bored and visit ce. Ill see you guys again in a few weeks

Dark_Arbron posted...

They do. You stipulated "with multiple attackers." Real life isn't John Wick.

The bottom line is that the rest of the developed world does just fine without automatic weapons everywhere. Meanwhile the US has an inexcusable number of gun-related deaths. "Nothing can be done," says only country where this happens.

I support civilian gun ownership. But automatic weapons aren't necessary.

Youve gotta be careful with your choice of terminology. The CoD/Qanon/incel/Snyder Cut dorks will try to change the subject from the constant gun violence they enable because you called an AR-15 an automatic weapon.

I'm not even saying this to justify people owning AR15s or anything, but my question is if say Republicans take over the country and start rounding up and executing people, should Americans just sit there and let it happen because of APCs and drones and such? I just don't care for that "well the government will just drone strike your house so any resistance is useless" way of thinking.

Dark_Arbron posted...

2A fanatics always talk about their guns "protecting them from the government" yet are strangely silent about actual tyrannical practices such as gerrymandering, voter suppression and fraud, book banning and even attempts to usurp a fair election.

They're full of shit.

This is the main thing about conservative gun owners and why we should trash them and not the idea of fighting an oppressive government in and of itself.

yemmy posted...

what is an automatic weapon? Is an ar-15 an automatic weapon?

I'm not a gun guru so let's not get into definitions and what's technically "this" or "that."

My point is I support having a pistol, or maybe a shotgun. But a battle/assault rifle? That's just overkill, and given their past usage in mass shootings (with the level of mass damage they can inflict), they're clearly more of a liability than anything. If you give a shit about the dead, I mean.

RobertMuldoon posted...

I'm not even saying this to justify people owning AR15s or anything, but my question is if say Republicans take over the country and start rounding up and executing people, should Americans just sit there and let it happen because of APCs and drones and such?

This is the main thing about conservative gun owners and why we should trash them and not the idea of fighting an oppressive government in and of itself.

Yeah, people often say nowadays "Democrats need to start arming themselves." They're just far quieter about it than the anti-regulation types. Those people are likely to be on the Republican fascists' side if that ever comes to pass.

Dark_Arbron posted...

I'm not a gun guru so let's not get into definitions and what's technically "this" or "that."

My point is I support having a pistol, or maybe a shotgun. But a battle/assault rifle? That's just overkill, and given their past usage in mass shootings, they're clearly more of a liability than anything.

you have no idea what you are taking about

way more gun violence is done with pistols than battle/assault rifles. Pull up the number of people killed with semi auto rifles any given year vs pistols

but I thought this was all about safety and statistics though!

cjsdowg posted...

What situation would you need to AR to defend yourself.

Grew up in newburgh and have had my home broken into repeatedly by groups of armed thieves. Ill never forget the fear and terror my family and i faced back then.

Thankfully i now live in a place where i can be legally armed in my home and sleep like a baby knowing my family isnt a defenseless duck

yemmy posted...

what is an automatic weapon? Is an ar-15 an automatic weapon?

no its semi auto. Having a fully automatic weapon is illegal in U.S. unless you have a license. (Tax stamp)

cjsdowg posted...

What situation would you need to AR to defend yourself.

Ask Israel. Stuff like whats going on there can happen anywhere, not just MiddleEast.

yemmy posted...

also funny thing about statistics, you dont know that where I live is more or less dangerous than someone else where home invasions happen. Statistics are taken from gated communities as well as the projects and then applied as a blanket. So you have no idea the risk vs reward of me having a rifle other than a stupid ass national statistic that includes the suburban crime free neighborhoods that most of CE obviously resides

Let's just end all the debates and get right to the elephant in the room. The reason America has gun problems is because people living there need guns for the constant multiple attacker home invasions that happens every so often.

Literally no other developed countries had anything remotely close the the amount of gun violence problem the USA has.

So this is just proven:
The USA is just a shitty place and a third rate country to live in

yemmy posted...

just a tip, I dont give a fuck what some dude thinks that actually thinks US troops are gonna Swiss cheese houses lol

He didn't say they would, but you already know that. You know he was pointing out how you don't have a personal defense against the US military.

and what if my ar-15 is a source of socializing, relaxing, and exercising(it absolutely is)? Is that justification enough to own one with the associated risk?

No. It does say a lot about you, though.

also funny thing about statistics, you dont know that where I live is more or less dangerous than someone else where home invasions happen. Statistics are taken from gated communities as well as the projects and then applied as a blanket. So you have no idea the risk vs reward of me having a rifle other than a stupid ass national statistic that includes the suburban crime free neighborhoods that most of CE obviously resides

You can't even pretend to claim to live somewhere dangerous.

yemmy posted...

this is what happens when I get bored and visit ce. Ill see you guys again in a few weeks

Why are ya lying? You hover here waiting for the opportunity to arise to gun slurp.

Keep slurping, the NRA loves people like you, you do their job for them for free.

Sufferedphoneix posted...
To play devils advocate the government would be incredibly stupid to use all that against its own populace.

Ruby Ridge and Waco say hi.

Zikten posted...

I'm sure the victim never expected the 12 year old to pull out a gun

How does a 12-year-old "pull out" a rifle?
Unless the kid is a giant already, that's going to be a bit tough to conceal.

Humble_Novice posted...

Dear God, what is wrong with Texas?

Republicans

Murphiroth posted...

Why are ya lying? You hover here waiting for the opportunity to arise to gun slurp.

Keep slurping, the NRA loves people like you, you do their job for them for free.

He did say he'd see us "in a few weeks" so I guess he knows he's probably gonna get suspended again soon.

crayola555 posted...

So this is just proven:
The USA is just a shitty place and a third rate country to live in

This is true for many reasons that go far beyond our pathetic, cowardly gun culture and the epidemic of violence it enables.

Dark_Arbron posted...

He did say he'd see us "in a few weeks" so I guess he knows he's probably gonna get suspended again soon.

Or he knows that there will be another shooting where he'll have to come in and defend his favorite toys and his ease of access to them as completely worth it.