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HylianFox 10/12/23 11:43:07 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205627746/scalise-drops-out-of-race-for-speaker-of-the-house-leaving-congress-in-limbo https://www.huffpost.com/entry/steve-scalise-republican-house-speaker_n_65285a13e4b0a304ff6f8311 --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:976627872] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2023/10/12/1205627746/scalise-drops-out-of-race-for-speaker-of-the-house-leaving-congress-in-limbohttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/steve-scalise-republican-house-speaker_n_65285a13e4b0a304ff6f8311 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 10/12/23 11:45:17 PM #2:	Hahahahahahha. They have no one. At least the Dems are unified behind Jeffries. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:976627900] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Hahahahahahha.They have no one.At least the Dems are unified behind Jeffries. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PepsiWithCoke 10/12/23 11:45:45 PM #3:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0 --- https://i.imgur.com/fEKRafh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hgwNfD8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/cgQKJhR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0CU0ivF.gifv <cite>PepsiWithCoke posted [p:976627908] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaos_knight 10/12/23 11:47:38 PM #4:	I would hope several Republicans will just say fuck it and vote for Jeffries --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions <cite>chaos_knight posted [p:976627931] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>I would hope several Republicans will just say fuck it and vote for Jeffries </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/12/23 11:49:10 PM #5:	Never forget that he's in his own words "David Duke without the baggage." And he's the best the modern GOP has to offer. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976627951] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Never forget that he's in his own words "David Duke without the baggage."And he's the best the modern GOP has to offer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/12/23 11:50:50 PM #6:	chaos_knight posted... I would hope several Republicans will just say fuck it and vote for Jeffries If they don't want Jefferies they could make a deal with democrats on a compromise candidate. They won't do that though as that would be political suicide for any republican. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976627967] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>chaos_knight posted... </cite><quote>I would hope several Republicans will just say fuck it and vote for Jeffries</quote>If they don't want Jefferies they could make a deal with democrats on a compromise candidate. They won't do that though as that would be political suicide for any republican. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 10/12/23 11:55:14 PM #7:	creativerealms posted... If they don't want Jefferies they could make a deal with democrats on a compromise candidate. They won't do that though as that would be political suicide for any republican. The dems should absolutely, under no circumstances, compromise with the GOP on anyone other than a dem Speaker. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:976628007] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>If they don't want Jefferies they could make a deal with democrats on a compromise candidate. They won't do that though as that would be political suicide for any republican.</quote>The dems should absolutely, under no circumstances, compromise with the GOP on anyone other than a dem Speaker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 10/12/23 11:55:49 PM #8:	ScazarMeltex posted... The dems should absolutely, under no circumstances, compromise with the GOP on anyone other than a dem Speaker. --- Heavy weight, one more stone... https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:976628013] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>The dems should absolutely, under no circumstances, compromise with the GOP on anyone other than a dem Speaker.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/12/23 11:58:23 PM #9:	ScazarMeltex posted... The dems should absolutely, under no circumstances, compromise with the GOP on anyone other than a dem Speaker. --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:976628037] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>The dems should absolutely, under no circumstances, compromise with the GOP on anyone other than a dem Speaker.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 10/13/23 12:02:10 AM #10:	Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:976628076] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 10/13/23 12:03:11 AM #11:	SaikyoStyle posted... Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? There are none because they own the majority of media. --- Heavy weight, one more stone... https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:976628085] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media?</quote>There are none because they own the majority of media. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TendoDRM 10/13/23 12:08:45 AM #12:	SaikyoStyle posted... Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/us/politics/house-republicans-bicker-world-crisis.html There's this. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:976628152] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media?</quote>https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/us/politics/house-republicans-bicker-world-crisis.htmlThere's this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/13/23 12:16:28 AM #13:	SaikyoStyle posted... Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? The mainstream media would rather attack democrats for not working with republicans. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976628243] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media?</quote>The mainstream media would rather attack democrats for not working with republicans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quorthon109 10/13/23 12:16:29 AM #14:	SaikyoStyle posted... Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? I expect to see more like "Steve Scalise withdraws his bid for Speaker, here's why it hurts Joe Biden" --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg <cite>Quorthon109 posted [p:976628244] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media?</quote>I expect to see more like "Steve Scalise withdraws his bid for Speaker, here's why it hurts Joe Biden" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 10/13/23 12:23:32 AM #15:	apparently jeffries signaled he would be willing to back a compromise candidate if the gop makes concessions. they would only need like 10 or so republicans but it would have to be an actual moderate and idk if there are 10+ republicans out of the 200+ they have in congress that would be willing to do the right thing to govern. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:976628312] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>apparently jeffries signaled he would be willing to back a compromise candidate if the gop makes concessions. they would only need like 10 or so republicans but it would have to be an actual moderate and idk if there are 10+ republicans out of the 200+ they have in congress that would be willing to do the right thing to govern. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quorthon109 10/13/23 12:39:52 AM #16:	For a second I was trying to think of who an actual moderate would be, then I realized it's apparently anyone who isn't an election denier --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg <cite>Quorthon109 posted [p:976628500] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>For a second I was trying to think of who an actual moderate would be, then I realized it's apparently anyone who isn't an election denier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/13/23 10:45:15 AM #17:	Apparently the MAGA hardliners want Gym Jordan or heavy concessions that would put the Speaker at their mercy. This is no bueno, because the country and the world isn't going to wait for the GOP to get its shit together. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976633798] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Apparently the MAGA hardliners want Gym Jordan or heavy concessions that would put the Speaker at their mercy. This is no bueno, because the country and the world isn't going to wait for the GOP to get its shit together. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 10/13/23 11:04:01 AM #19:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Kind of. The Speaker runs among the majority party on a certain way of doing things (there's strategic goals too, which usually dominate this process). Usually, rules are not a big deal, standard parliamentary stuff. But McCarthy made heavy concessions to the minority MAGAs to get elected Speaker, and they (apparently) want future ones to do it also. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976634071] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Kind of. The Speaker runs among the majority party on a certain way of doing things (there's strategic goals too, which usually dominate this process). Usually, rules are not a big deal, standard parliamentary stuff. But McCarthy made heavy concessions to the minority MAGAs to get elected Speaker, and they (apparently) want future ones to do it also. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnsteadyOwl 10/13/23 11:04:48 AM #20:	What's probably going to happen in the short term is McHenry is given temporary authority as speaker pro tempore to bring some legislation to a vote, like aid to Israel and a budget bill. Maybe a new speaker will be elected sometime next year. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:976634088] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>What's probably going to happen in the short term is McHenry is given temporary authority as speaker pro tempore to bring some legislation to a vote, like aid to Israel and a budget bill. Maybe a new speaker will be elected sometime next year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 10/13/23 11:10:10 AM #21:	SaikyoStyle posted... Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? Don't you know, the real story is why didn't the democrats step up and save McCarthy? --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 <cite>Torgo posted [p:976634172] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media?</quote>Don't you know, the real story is why didn't the democrats step up and save McCarthy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/13/23 11:21:27 AM #22:	UnsteadyOwl posted... What's probably going to happen in the short term is McHenry is given temporary authority as speaker pro tempore to bring some legislation to a vote, like aid to Israel and a budget bill. Maybe a new speaker will be elected sometime next year. There's even talk of bringing back McCarthy. This is a total shitshow. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976634353] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>UnsteadyOwl posted... </cite><quote>What's probably going to happen in the short term is McHenry is given temporary authority as speaker pro tempore to bring some legislation to a vote, like aid to Israel and a budget bill. Maybe a new speaker will be elected sometime next year.</quote>There's even talk of bringing back McCarthy. This is a total shitshow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 10/13/23 11:22:53 AM #23:	andel posted... apparently jeffries signaled he would be willing to back a compromise candidate if the gop makes concessions. It would be unwise to trust anyone especially with the new vacate rules. They'll end up in the same spot as McCarthy where they'll have no choice and work with Dems and we'll all be right back here again. Though I guess if the Dems are backing them the vote will never go through. --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:976634374] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite><quote>apparently jeffries signaled he would be willing to back a compromise candidate if the gop makes concessions.</quote>It would be unwise to trust anyone especially with the new vacate rules. They'll end up in the same spot as McCarthy where they'll have no choice and work with Dems and we'll all be right back here again. Though I guess if the Dems are backing them the vote will never go through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 10/13/23 11:23:16 AM #24:	Hmm --- You're never ever fully dressed without a smile! <cite>Cocytus posted [p:976634380] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Hmm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 10/13/23 11:26:45 AM #25:	creativerealms posted... Never forget that he's in his own words "David Duke without the baggage." And he's the best the modern GOP has to offer. I really want to know what he even meant by that. Like I genuinely have no idea what he is saying. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:976634425] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>Never forget that he's in his own words "David Duke without the baggage."And he's the best the modern GOP has to offer.</quote>I really want to know what he even meant by that. Like I genuinely have no idea what he is saying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Takuya_Lee 10/13/23 11:32:06 AM #27:	theAteam posted... It would be unwise to trust anyone especially with the new vacate rules. They'll end up in the same spot as McCarthy where they'll have no choice and work with Dems and we'll all be right back here again. Though I guess if the Dems are backing them the vote will never go through. I imagine part of any potential deal would be neutering or getting rid of the vacate rule. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:976634500] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>theAteam posted... </cite><quote>It would be unwise to trust anyone especially with the new vacate rules. They'll end up in the same spot as McCarthy where they'll have no choice and work with Dems and we'll all be right back here again. Though I guess if the Dems are backing them the vote will never go through.</quote>I imagine part of any potential deal would be neutering or getting rid of the vacate rule. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4 10/13/23 11:33:05 AM #28:	I was a political science major in college (with a minor in economics which is amusing because I know so very little about economics). I spent my high school and college years volunteering for political campaigns and being an officer for the College Democrats. My first job out of college was in politics. All of this is to say that I have been a politics junkie for my entire adult life-I absolutely cannot believe the state the GOP finds itself in. This is leaving aside the bad policy and evil and corruption, which is a whole other discussion. One of two major parties is completely broken and incapable of governing. It is astounding. Anyone paying attention to politics knew as early as the 90s that the GOP was actively radicalizing portions of the electorate with lies and incendiary rhetoric. Newt and Rush and Fox set out to attract a certain kind of base, and they did a ridiculously good job, to the detriment of the country. But that base is now so radical they cant appeal to anyone outside their cult in the country. As a result, they cant even do the most basic governing. Because the base they spent so many years convincing that Democrats were horrible enemies doesnt want governing-they want performative trolling. Now our system that is supposed to be based on compromise is busted, and the party responsible cant even manage to pick a leader. All because they decided that they thought Rush and lies were a better way to cling to power than developing policies that people would actually vote for. The state our government is in is horrible and also amazing. I never thought it could possibly get this bad, but the GOP has really done a number on all of us. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. <cite>Westernwolf4 posted [p:976634517] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>I was a political science major in college (with a minor in economics which is amusing because I know so very little about economics). I spent my high school and college years volunteering for political campaigns and being an officer for the College Democrats. My first job out of college was in politics. All of this is to say that I have been a politics junkie for my entire adult life-I absolutely cannot believe the state the GOP finds itself in. This is leaving aside the bad policy and evil and corruption, which is a whole other discussion. One of two major parties is completely broken and incapable of governing. It is astounding.Anyone paying attention to politics knew as early as the 90s that the GOP was actively radicalizing portions of the electorate with lies and incendiary rhetoric. Newt and Rush and Fox set out to attract a certain kind of base, and they did a ridiculously good job, to the detriment of the country. But that base is now so radical they cant appeal to anyone outside their cult in the country. As a result, they cant even do the most basic governing. Because the base they spent so many years convincing that Democrats were horrible enemies doesnt want governing-they want performative trolling.Now our system that is supposed to be based on compromise is busted, and the party responsible cant even manage to pick a leader. All because they decided that they thought Rush and lies were a better way to cling to power than developing policies that people would actually vote for. The state our government is in is horrible and also amazing. I never thought it could possibly get this bad, but the GOP has really done a number on all of us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/13/23 11:34:23 AM #29:	SaikyoStyle posted... Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media? This right here. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976634540] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Where are all of the republicans in disarray headlines in the media?</quote>This right here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi33 10/13/23 11:35:25 AM #30:	Vulnerable Republicans nominating Jordan are going to be attacked HARD in generals. I wonder if they think that is worth the risk. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:976634566] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Vulnerable Republicans nominating Jordan are going to be attacked HARD in generals. I wonder if they think that is worth the risk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ejolson 10/13/23 11:47:57 AM #31:	Westernwolf4 posted... I was a political science major in college (with a minor in economics which is amusing because I know so very little about economics). I spent my high school and college years volunteering for political campaigns and being an officer for the College Democrats. My first job out of college was in politics. All of this is to say that I have been a politics junkie for my entire adult life-I absolutely cannot believe the state the GOP finds itself in. This is leaving aside the bad policy and evil and corruption, which is a whole other discussion. One of two major parties is completely broken and incapable of governing. It is astounding. Anyone paying attention to politics knew as early as the 90s that the GOP was actively radicalizing portions of the electorate with lies and incendiary rhetoric. Newt and Rush and Fox set out to attract a certain kind of base, and they did a ridiculously good job, to the detriment of the country. But that base is now so radical they cant appeal to anyone outside their cult in the country. As a result, they cant even do the most basic governing. Because the base they spent so many years convincing that Democrats were horrible enemies doesnt want governing-they want performative trolling. Now our system that is supposed to be based on compromise is busted, and the party responsible cant even manage to pick a leader. All because they decided that they thought Rush and lies were a better way to cling to power than developing policies that people would actually vote for. The state our government is in is horrible and also amazing. I never thought it could possibly get this bad, but the GOP has really done a number on all of us. Came here to say the same about the GOP but I have an undergrad in Philosophy so I know the origins of governance, at least, philosophically. The modern GOP is a broken mess that cannot function or govern at all. It is astounding to me that anyone would actively vote for them and, frankly, it is an indictment of a certain portion of the electorate. --- Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights! <cite>ejolson posted [p:976634830] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Westernwolf4 posted... </cite><quote>I was a political science major in college (with a minor in economics which is amusing because I know so very little about economics). I spent my high school and college years volunteering for political campaigns and being an officer for the College Democrats. My first job out of college was in politics. All of this is to say that I have been a politics junkie for my entire adult life-I absolutely cannot believe the state the GOP finds itself in. This is leaving aside the bad policy and evil and corruption, which is a whole other discussion. One of two major parties is completely broken and incapable of governing. It is astounding.Anyone paying attention to politics knew as early as the 90s that the GOP was actively radicalizing portions of the electorate with lies and incendiary rhetoric. Newt and Rush and Fox set out to attract a certain kind of base, and they did a ridiculously good job, to the detriment of the country. But that base is now so radical they cant appeal to anyone outside their cult in the country. As a result, they cant even do the most basic governing. Because the base they spent so many years convincing that Democrats were horrible enemies doesnt want governing-they want performative trolling.Now our system that is supposed to be based on compromise is busted, and the party responsible cant even manage to pick a leader. All because they decided that they thought Rush and lies were a better way to cling to power than developing policies that people would actually vote for. The state our government is in is horrible and also amazing. I never thought it could possibly get this bad, but the GOP has really done a number on all of us.</quote>Came here to say the same about the GOP but I have an undergrad in Philosophy so I know the origins of governance, at least, philosophically. The modern GOP is a broken mess that cannot function or govern at all. It is astounding to me that anyone would actively vote for them and, frankly, it is an indictment of a certain portion of the electorate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4 10/13/23 12:18:29 PM #32:	ejolson posted... Came here to say the same about the GOP but I have an undergrad in Philosophy so I know the origins of governance, at least, philosophically. The modern GOP is a broken mess that cannot function or govern at all. It is astounding to me that anyone would actively vote for them and, frankly, it is an indictment of a certain portion of the electorate. I find philosophy so interesting, and I should have majored in it, but I only got as far as reading The Cave and The Republic. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. <cite>Westernwolf4 posted [p:976635390] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>ejolson posted... </cite><quote>Came here to say the same about the GOP but I have an undergrad in Philosophy so I know the origins of governance, at least, philosophically. The modern GOP is a broken mess that cannot function or govern at all. It is astounding to me that anyone would actively vote for them and, frankly, it is an indictment of a certain portion of the electorate.</quote>I find philosophy so interesting, and I should have majored in it, but I only got as far as reading The Cave and The Republic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 10/13/23 7:12:05 PM #33:	luigi33 posted... Vulnerable Republicans nominating Jordan are going to be attacked HARD in generals. I wonder if they think that is worth the risk. Offhand I can't recall the number but yeah, swing district Republicans are dead in the water if Jordan gets the job. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:976642557] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>luigi33 posted... </cite><quote>Vulnerable Republicans nominating Jordan are going to be attacked HARD in generals. I wonder if they think that is worth the risk.</quote>Offhand I can't recall the number but yeah, swing district Republicans are dead in the water if Jordan gets the job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 10/13/23 7:21:39 PM #34:	Basically Scalise would've needed to offer beyond McCarthy level concessions to the Freedom Caucus to get the votes, and just wasn't willing to do so. The problem the GOP faces now is that most "normal" Republicans aren't going to want to tarnish their legacies with this career-suicidal job. McCarthy was an exception in that he plotted to take the position for years and was just too much of a glory hound not to. The standard Republican isn't up for it. This heavily benefits a Jim Jordan type. MAGA is perfectly willing to just lie to get into power, because getting away with BS "makes you smart" in Trump land. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976642686] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Basically Scalise would've needed to offer beyond McCarthy level concessions to the Freedom Caucus to get the votes, and just wasn't willing to do so.The problem the GOP faces now is that most "normal" Republicans aren't going to want to tarnish their legacies with this career-suicidal job. McCarthy was an exception in that he plotted to take the position for years and was just too much of a glory hound not to. The standard Republican isn't up for it.This heavily benefits a Jim Jordan type. MAGA is perfectly willing to just lie to get into power, because getting away with BS "makes you smart" in Trump land. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/13/23 7:39:57 PM #35:	luigi33 posted... Vulnerable Republicans nominating Jordan are going to be attacked HARD in generals. I wonder if they think that is worth the risk. There is a certain representative in Colorado who only won by 500 vote who really can't afford to be a nut job. And yet she just won't stop. I really want her to keep up being stupid. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Save Star trek prodigy <cite>creativerealms posted [p:976642944] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>luigi33 posted... </cite><quote>Vulnerable Republicans nominating Jordan are going to be attacked HARD in generals. I wonder if they think that is worth the risk.</quote>There is a certain representative in Colorado who only won by 500 vote who really can't afford to be a nut job. And yet she just won't stop. I really want her to keep up being stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 10/13/23 7:41:48 PM #36:	Inohira posted... Basically Scalise would've needed to offer beyond McCarthy level concessions to the Freedom Caucus to get the votes, and just wasn't willing to do so. The problem the GOP faces now is that most "normal" Republucans aren't going to want to tarnish their legacies with this career-suicidal job. McCarthy was an exception in that he plotted to take the position for years and was just too much of a glory hound not to. The standard Republican isn't up for it. This heavily benefits a Jim Jordan type. MAGA is perfectly willing to just lie to get into power, because getting away with BS "makes you smart" in Trump land. It doesn't benefit him enough. Not with this small of a majority. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:976642968] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>Basically Scalise would've needed to offer beyond McCarthy level concessions to the Freedom Caucus to get the votes, and just wasn't willing to do so.The problem the GOP faces now is that most "normal" Republucans aren't going to want to tarnish their legacies with this career-suicidal job. McCarthy was an exception in that he plotted to take the position for years and was just too much of a glory hound not to. The standard Republican isn't up for it.This heavily benefits a Jim Jordan type. MAGA is perfectly willing to just lie to get into power, because getting away with BS "makes you smart" in Trump land.</quote>It doesn't benefit him enough. Not with this small of a majority. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/13/23 7:44:09 PM #37:	Compsognathus posted... I really want to know what he even meant by that. Like I genuinely have no idea what he is saying. he's racist but he's never been on public record with it so they shouldn't count it as a negative! --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976643005] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>I really want to know what he even meant by that. Like I genuinely have no idea what he is saying.</quote>he's racist but he's never been on public record with it so they shouldn't count it as a negative! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 10/13/23 7:46:03 PM #38:	Compsognathus posted... I really want to know what he even meant by that. Like I genuinely have no idea what he is saying. That he's a white supremacist who hasn't been put on blast for it like Duke. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:976643034] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>Compsognathus posted... </cite><quote>I really want to know what he even meant by that. Like I genuinely have no idea what he is saying.</quote>That he's a white supremacist who hasn't been put on blast for it like Duke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 10/13/23 8:01:36 PM #39:	brestugo posted... heavy concessions that would put the Speaker at their mercy. i honestly hope they don't pull a "matt gaetz" type scenario again when they get a new speaker. --- beware of the mayor (fall guys). <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:976643262] in Steve Scal... [t:80592163]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted...</cite><quote>heavy concessions that would put the Speaker at their mercy.</quote>i honestly hope they don't pull a "matt gaetz" type scenario again when they get a new speaker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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